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Undivided Blood Thirsters are UNSTOPPABLE

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@gabriellhernould4826
@gabriellhernould4826 2 жыл бұрын
The utter confidence that magistrate had in his hot air balloon to go toe to toe against a legion of Bloodthirster inspired me to ask out my crush today lol
@PrawnyBoy53
@PrawnyBoy53 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck mate.
@whzpoor
@whzpoor 2 жыл бұрын
and like the magistrate, did you crash and burn?
@Shero1337
@Shero1337 2 жыл бұрын
@@whzpoor It's been 17 minutes, I don't think its happened yet
@faihocmoror8320
@faihocmoror8320 2 жыл бұрын
Most certainly
@carlroy
@carlroy 2 жыл бұрын
I hope she or he ain't a bloodthirster for your own sake!
@Kura_Kekoa
@Kura_Kekoa 2 жыл бұрын
“Sometimes life gives you blood thirsters. Fly your hot air balloon straight into them.” - Cathay proverbs you should never take literally.
@Loj84
@Loj84 2 жыл бұрын
There's something hilarious to me about Khornate daemons being overpowered when they're able to heal with magic, despite them despising magic.
@stevenseagull4990
@stevenseagull4990 2 жыл бұрын
"SKARBRAND HATES MAGIC, EXCEPT HEALING MAGIC, SKARBRAND HATES THAT SLIGHTLY LESS!"
@MagicHjalti
@MagicHjalti 2 жыл бұрын
Use magic to get more blood and skulls
@verdiss7487
@verdiss7487 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenseagull4990 Good guy Skarbrand just hates violence, you see.
@nessa-parmentier
@nessa-parmentier 2 жыл бұрын
Being healed with magic fuels them with more rage that they instantly unleash onto their enemies
@dudeofstuff
@dudeofstuff 2 жыл бұрын
Think how dramatic they’d have to be to navigate this paradox in an undivided scenario in the lore. “Noooo don’t HEAL me Nurgle I will literally kill you rn aaaah no stop”
@elmanhux
@elmanhux 2 жыл бұрын
the daemon prince is like a true hero barely able to do something on his own but able to accomplish EVERYTHING thanks to the bond with his daemonic friends lending him their strength
@TheCrimsonSpork
@TheCrimsonSpork 2 жыл бұрын
Heart of the Cards!
@flaviomonteiro1414
@flaviomonteiro1414 2 жыл бұрын
The Powah of Friendship!
@sebastjankosec
@sebastjankosec Жыл бұрын
Blood for the blood god!
@moss4618
@moss4618 2 жыл бұрын
while the empire cowers behind their walls when the daemons and the warriors of chaos arrive , this Lone Cathayian in a Hot Air Balloon with Balls of Steel decides "lets teach these flying red chickens a lesson" R.I.P random Forgotten Lord, with that one act hopefully you are remembered for all time.
@florians9949
@florians9949 2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile Cathay doing a collective face palm.
@marioschaffner5395
@marioschaffner5395 2 жыл бұрын
Actially, he wont rest at all, he only got wounded, maybe he will come back with his wooden hot air ballon and his steel balls😂😂
@lucianofinn7304
@lucianofinn7304 2 жыл бұрын
I'll tell Franz about that.
@kylarstern7550
@kylarstern7550 2 жыл бұрын
What I actually quite like about this is that it shows how the daemon prince (as in charakter + faction) can be good: by finding synergies between different chaos-gods
@wellbornthrower596
@wellbornthrower596 2 жыл бұрын
By himself, weak sauce, with he other chaos factions, purely badass 🤗👍😼
@erikweltz8187
@erikweltz8187 2 жыл бұрын
@@wellbornthrower596 Almost like that’s his faction’s selling point and how his faction mechanics are geared to work
@wellbornthrower596
@wellbornthrower596 2 жыл бұрын
@@erikweltz8187 hm I see, sry just a Warhammer novice who likes khorne the most so… my bad😓
@wellbornthrower596
@wellbornthrower596 2 жыл бұрын
@@erikweltz8187 he is the one lord I’ve had my eye on playing but you know, he kinda sucks on his own so I’m conflicted 😐
@burgertime6372
@burgertime6372 2 жыл бұрын
@@wellbornthrower596 just wait for mods, like everyone else
@729060
@729060 2 жыл бұрын
TLDW: Units balanced around a faction without magic are extremely strong when they get magic support.
@luiousy7329
@luiousy7329 2 жыл бұрын
**gets literally soloed by Zhao Ming**
@Unherz
@Unherz 2 жыл бұрын
The utter shock in Legends voice when he realises the Chaos Prince is part of a 10/10 doomstack. I really liked this one. I am frustrated with the Chaos Prince as a Lord. Still am, since as Legend says all hes there for is upkeep reduction. But at least he did SOMEthing.
@Tanuvein
@Tanuvein 2 жыл бұрын
This game requires you to look at builds and armies in very different ways from the last two, treating them like previous factions misses a lot of their strengths.
@luiousy7329
@luiousy7329 2 жыл бұрын
Late game demon prince becomes irrelevant but he can certainly poop out 0 cost 0 upkeep armies turn after turn.
@generalharness8266
@generalharness8266 2 жыл бұрын
But he's not part of the doom stack, The thing that makes it good is getting a healer in the battle.
@dmtaboo_truth7052
@dmtaboo_truth7052 Жыл бұрын
Are all deamon princes considered weak? I'm curious to know why. Some of them do seem a bit underpowered (low armor etc), but I do like the flavour. The Nurgle one looks awesome.
@Mahons
@Mahons 2 ай бұрын
@@dmtaboo_truth7052 You may have realized since leaving the comment but The daemon prince that they are talking about is the one that is usually called "Daniel" by the promotional materiel aka Daemons of chaos faction lord.
@BOBBOBBOBBOBBOBBOB69
@BOBBOBBOBBOBBOBBOB69 2 жыл бұрын
When you realize Khorn hates magic, yet is literally made from warp magic.
@arcadius2569
@arcadius2569 2 жыл бұрын
Hush now... you'll give him an aneurysm.
@florians9949
@florians9949 2 жыл бұрын
Korne doesn’t hate all magic actually. Spells that makes you physically stronger and your equipment better are just fine in his bok. What’s not is when you start summoning fire storms and lightning bolts.
@Insandom
@Insandom 2 жыл бұрын
@@florians9949 Explain the random Khorne event with the ogre butcher?
@ixavdacity
@ixavdacity 2 жыл бұрын
@@Insandom idk if you've noticed or not but the warhammer games arent necessarily lore friendly
@Grubnar
@Grubnar 2 жыл бұрын
Khorne does, in fact, not hate magic. Khorne likes magic when it is put to good use ... for example making magical weapons like axes of two-handed swords. What Khone absolutely despises is *sorcery*, using magic to fight instead of engaging in honourable melee combat, mano a mano!
@Tachii31
@Tachii31 2 жыл бұрын
Y'know...him being able to make basically free doomstacks makes a weird amount of sense. Daemon Princes on the tabletop were always the economy choice.
@wulfgrumheimfjarl3346
@wulfgrumheimfjarl3346 2 жыл бұрын
Bloodshrines can't hide but the Juggernaut mount can
@GameDehne
@GameDehne 2 жыл бұрын
yah putting him on a juggernaut would be worth it if that is the case just for that little extra bit of speed honestly cause as legend had said before " you only move as fast as your slowest unit " and the bloodreaper isn't extremely slow but its not fast compared to everything else in the army.
@TheNightkunai
@TheNightkunai 2 жыл бұрын
@@GameDehne Might be better getting a slaaneshi hero and putting those on a mount. Can easily get 100+ speed whilst being able to hide in the forest. Did the khorne hero add anything else to the stack?
@markus-mirko4091
@markus-mirko4091 2 жыл бұрын
You could go undivided instead of khorne and get the Set Bonus with 15% Physical Resist for your whole army. Would make it quite abit more expensive tho.
@theodemir1953
@theodemir1953 2 жыл бұрын
It's really not needed here. They went againt hallberds and AP missiles and had no trouble at all
@markus-mirko4091
@markus-mirko4091 2 жыл бұрын
@@theodemir1953 Agreed. As Legend has pointed out Doomstacks are not really needed in general in WH3 anymore. Making them even stronger might therefore not be worth the money. Maybe that changes when immortal empires comes out and you have to fight dark and high elves again
@sensen9900
@sensen9900 2 жыл бұрын
But it could be an Interessting Option for Mortal Empires.... High Elve/Dark Elve and some other Doomstacks could really hurt them i guess
@Yotamb9
@Yotamb9 2 жыл бұрын
And +20 Armor on top of that.
@theodemir1953
@theodemir1953 2 жыл бұрын
@@markus-mirko4091 I guess that will depend on how they rebalance the other factions, but I think you're right
@Grivehn
@Grivehn 2 жыл бұрын
Legend: "Bloodthirsters are better with healing." Me, winning Demon Prince campaign by spamming Bloodthirsters and Mammoths, while healing them: "You dont say."
@PropheticShadeZ
@PropheticShadeZ 2 жыл бұрын
Khorne soulgrinders with Healing are so much fun
@Nightmare_52
@Nightmare_52 2 жыл бұрын
the demon prince is such a good faction if you dont bother with the demon prince himself and just make overpowered armies instead
@unknownunknowner2903
@unknownunknowner2903 2 жыл бұрын
I like playing as Demon Prince, don't get me wrong, he personally is a bad fighter, but: 1. You can have your army at 115 % cost reduction, having a doomstack for free, which will make the mission battles easy, if you want to do them. 2. You can have a global upkeep reduction of 25%, that's a big deal. If you spec your lord into the blue line, you may raise this up to 42%. 3. If you spec in Slaanesh, your tier 3 city can do 300 from city capital 300 from an income buliding, there is also a building in Slaanesh cities that give up to 200 (tier 3) income if the control is above 50, which is easy with Paramour, so 800 for a small tier 3 city. If you consider this with upkeep reduction, it makes quite a rich faction. 4. There is a plaque which gives vanguard deployment. With this Daemonettes wreck Kislev, which is your primary enemy. Playing very hard/very hard.
@markus-mirko4091
@markus-mirko4091 2 жыл бұрын
How do you get the 25% global upkeep cost reduc?
@silverdeathgamer2907
@silverdeathgamer2907 2 жыл бұрын
Having access to blue horrors early on with Khorne infantry is good also, they have poor AP so you just have your high armour Khorne infantry stall and deal with cav while your blue horrors kill stuff.
@iforgotmyname1669
@iforgotmyname1669 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, my daemon prince has never struggled in melee. He's no skarbrand powerhouse or Kairos spell caster but by the mid-game I can't think of many lords that can dual him plus, with 1 healing caster or if you give him some ability to self-heal, I think he's fine. Just not OP like other lords we are use to. I like the Daemon prince where he is. Only thing I would change is giving him some item slots too, no reason wouldn't use chaos artifacts and wear chaos infused amulets etc... all the other daemons do it. Maybe even carve Khorne runes into his skin as an "item" that give ward save and stuff.
@unknownunknowner2903
@unknownunknowner2903 2 жыл бұрын
@@markus-mirko4091 When you get to 4000 glory, or something like that, you get 25% discount for the units, but that's for each separate monogod and his dedicated units. Not sure absolutely, but I think I've checked it's global. Edit: Checked, it's global.
@Tywv91
@Tywv91 2 жыл бұрын
@@iforgotmyname1669 his stats aren’t good even in the mid game. His human form in the tutorial has better melee stats. He is not good. He’s subpar/average.
@danfish300
@danfish300 2 жыл бұрын
Had a convo about this the other day....Daemon Prince could do with a bit of a buff, but the faction mechanics are just fine. The fact you can make a Bloodthirster stack buffed by Nurgle magics and so on makes for good fun.
@luiousy7329
@luiousy7329 2 жыл бұрын
That really is just Nurgle carrying the Bloodthirster. Even demon prince's set contributed nothing to the battle. Meanwhile 96% ward save Zhao will solo this and kill the daemon prince on minute 1 or something.
@Autechltd
@Autechltd 3 ай бұрын
Funnily enough this is almost a fluffy 40k doom stack as well. Daemon Primarch Angron is so favoured by Khorne that he's escorted by the Cruor Praetoria. Twelve of Khorne's most favoured exalted blood thirsters.
@alexmsophos
@alexmsophos 2 жыл бұрын
Daemon Prince is underrated to some degree, there's a couple of REALLY neat things you can do with him that's particularly amplified by the fact you can change your equipment to have an optimal battle setup then end turn with an optimal campaign setup. He's a double mortis engine (many Khorne/Tzeentch tails, + some Nurgle wings) and the Nurgle line can make him a BIG FAT BOY and very well armoured, which can *seriously* offset some of his survivability issues. I've never managed to do well with him as a duellist though, and he's a bad caster, even with Tzeentch maxed. Hilariously he gets -miscast chance items. He cannot overcast.
@MrSaintVehementus
@MrSaintVehementus 2 жыл бұрын
Have to agree, equipped + armor set and he has 150 armour +15 phys resists, also checked weapons and by far double slaanesh claws animations are far superior than any 2h weapon from nurgle rewards or 1h+shield
@erikweltz8187
@erikweltz8187 2 жыл бұрын
@@Asraeks give him the Khorne helmet on top of his undivided plate armor set and he gets tons of in battle bonuses that boost his weapon strength like crazy
@bernardoventura3384
@bernardoventura3384 2 жыл бұрын
Watch the balance of power at 16:33 when the heal spell is cast.
@Yotamb9
@Yotamb9 2 жыл бұрын
His "tech" also gives Bloodthirsters (and any other Khorne unit) +8 Bonus vs Infantry
@totalwar-hamster4518
@totalwar-hamster4518 2 жыл бұрын
Finally legends you're getting to grips with the power of undivided. They can get a beast of nurgle frontline, pink horror backline, plagueridden healer by tier 2. Then use a tzyntch lord for blue horror summons. Almost as soon as you start the game, and shortly with zero recruitment costs permanently. You can quickly get an alliance with skaven and get catapults too. Also daemon prince with nurgle focus and 2 mortis engines is busted to. I hope you look into nurgle more to understand how bonkers powerful it is. Allowed me to complete my first legendary campaign, painted the entire map and it felt like i was playing on easy. You set all your buildings and plagues to to get a conveyor belt of soulgrinders by turn 30. Then spread the plague on your enemy where they cant recruit. I'd say equal power to khorne, just less obvious Great video, thanks
@dmitriygryaznov9210
@dmitriygryaznov9210 2 жыл бұрын
A totally lorefriendly representation of how staying with Chaos Undivided allows one to combine strengths of Chaos's different aspects.
@aslysa2277
@aslysa2277 2 жыл бұрын
That one dude in a balloon fighting 17 blood thirsters😹😹😹props
@Tanuvein
@Tanuvein 2 жыл бұрын
This is the power of the Legion of Chaos, that you can build the perfect counter to any challenge you face (and do the same with your hero). It works extremely well with the campaign. Synergy and abandoning the idea of a solid line is the key with the demonic races, not playing them like the previous factions.
@cygnusx-1256
@cygnusx-1256 Жыл бұрын
legend says that man is still standing his hot air ground to this day.
@bernadettewalters4506
@bernadettewalters4506 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my the closed captions on this are great! "Legend Turtle Here"
@shuanminchia2298
@shuanminchia2298 2 ай бұрын
Perhaps the AI suddenly had the great idea of cheesing legend by "Let attack his army by surprise when he think we are going to form up and march to our death in orderly manner." 😂
@tech-priestbravosierra7720
@tech-priestbravosierra7720 2 жыл бұрын
Daemon Prince is finally getting some appreciation :)
@Dianbler
@Dianbler 2 жыл бұрын
I think the appreciation goes to the faction.
@tech-priestbravosierra7720
@tech-priestbravosierra7720 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dianbler Yeah that is true - but any love towards him and his faction makes me happy. Defiantly my favourite faction and LL of all Total War Warhammer, just a shame the Prince sucks.
@studentt6064
@studentt6064 2 жыл бұрын
@@tech-priestbravosierra7720 I think he just needs 20 extra MA/MD and like 50 armor base, and then I think he's fine imho. His base stats are just so incredibly low that no amount of equipment can fix it.
@Vanadium
@Vanadium 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dianbler and that doesn't matter if he is the leader eh? I mean I fought my battles with Exalted Bloodthirsters as leaders only. I can support so many troops, its fucking insane and put Scarbrand to shame .. I can essentially rise armies without any cost. This entire army would cost me nothing except the two heros in it.
@Shero1337
@Shero1337 2 жыл бұрын
@@studentt6064 That pluss being able to equip items would make him a 10/10 lord easily
@joethesheep4675
@joethesheep4675 2 жыл бұрын
Omg. Procedual subtitles are the Best. "Legend turtle here..." 🤣
@Alej0xXx
@Alej0xXx 2 жыл бұрын
I think that from 10 Daemon Prince armor to 70 bloodthirter armor, it's a bigger defensive boost than having 5% more phisical resistance from 20% to 25%. So the Daemon Prince itself is squishier than the Bloodthirsters by a non small margin, even when the DP has the best defensive items he can get here.
@mortekrieger2291
@mortekrieger2291 2 жыл бұрын
The subs call your name legend turtle, that is now how I will forever see your name.
@polymphus
@polymphus 2 жыл бұрын
dying at that comet 14:20 WHAT IS THE AI EVEN TRYING TO HIT
@florians9949
@florians9949 2 жыл бұрын
That magistrate at the beggining: I took a calculated risk, but man am I bad at math.
@damionwhitehead1165
@damionwhitehead1165 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize this was, "Legend spends 20min trash talking the AI, 'Get your shit together.'" 🤣
@defensivejackass4690
@defensivejackass4690 2 жыл бұрын
Nurgle trying to heal Sigvald : Fxxx off
@vladyslavkorenyak872
@vladyslavkorenyak872 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that the AI can remember where your troops where before being hidden is a great improvement. I believe it's not easy to program it, especially with neural networks.
@user-ti4di1uh2d
@user-ti4di1uh2d 2 жыл бұрын
These AI definitely doesn’t use neural network. It’s probably something simple like setting targets to each units which they’ll move toward their position or last known position and not removing them. And I think this is also the reason why they ignore barricade that were built at the start of the battle. If they actually use neural network AI the cost of it (and it’s maintenance) would be more expansive than the game development and they’d go bankrupt.
@SuperNintendawg
@SuperNintendawg 2 жыл бұрын
Wtf do neural networks have to do with this? Lmaooo
@Navtyr
@Navtyr 2 жыл бұрын
If you go undivided glory to max you can get like 40+ resistance and near 100 armor on the prince + a set bonus that gives your whole army +15% phys resistance, though in turn losing -60% upkeep and only having -30%.
@stephenkellett7836
@stephenkellett7836 2 жыл бұрын
Legend sounding like Grimgor with how much he begs Cathay for a proper fight here
@user-ym1bs7om9e
@user-ym1bs7om9e 2 жыл бұрын
jesus 18 bloodthirsters that's an avenger threat right there
@orbitalbutt6757
@orbitalbutt6757 2 жыл бұрын
18 bloodthirsters is something you throw The Sentry at and go “good luck, planet we’re standing on, hope you make it”
@90snetworkproductions79
@90snetworkproductions79 2 жыл бұрын
The lore of Bloodthirsters is one of the most terrifying things in the old world. Nobody said anything about a daemon prince leading a whole army of them!! I hope the commander for Cathay got to snort warpstone before this, cause its game over… Oh, no wonder they tried to fight one with a hot air balloon. 😂 😂
@indrickboreale7381
@indrickboreale7381 2 жыл бұрын
The Lore of Skinheads is really strong
@rursorrow2526
@rursorrow2526 2 жыл бұрын
After watching this I'm scared to think what multiplied Blood Thirsters could do.
@dumbboyalex4396
@dumbboyalex4396 2 жыл бұрын
Demon prince shines at army buffs more so than making himself strong. Though if upkeep weren’t an issue I wonder if an exalted bloodthirster’s red line would do more for the bloodthirsters? Then you would have a strictly better lord with item slots.
@50043211
@50043211 2 жыл бұрын
"Its just that the Demon Prince is such a joke!" 😭😭😭😭😭
@stavey1123
@stavey1123 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly unlocking bloodthirsters is still glitched, be warned if you want to try it.
@GameDehne
@GameDehne 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta say that I really enjoyed seeing this honestly cause it feels good when a melee based army just wrecks everything and not get super punished. Also that upkeep cost jeez thats super cheap. Definitely was worthy of a 10 out of 10 even if the lord sucks
@kaltaron1284
@kaltaron1284 2 жыл бұрын
Those Bloodthirsters had the day of their "lives". The only fly in the ointment was the Nurgle demon using magic to heal them.
@zduke5979
@zduke5979 2 жыл бұрын
They need an Australian themed faction with giant crocs, kangaroos, spiders, and legend as a lord
@arnathos2788
@arnathos2788 2 жыл бұрын
I do love how the Daemon Prince is so close to his tabletop version, where they just die to a couple of arrows :D
@sekijohn10
@sekijohn10 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes a support legendary lord who only contributes as a gathering body can be amazing too.
@frankfurt564
@frankfurt564 2 жыл бұрын
I can't play this without blood and gore. It's called a bloodthirster and there's zero blood lol
2 жыл бұрын
That's why they are so blood-thirsty.
@scottmarshall8222
@scottmarshall8222 2 жыл бұрын
I had a similar army in one of my campaigns but the demon prince was and exalted blood thirster and my ground unit was a shadow wizard on a horse, not cheaper but but much stronger
@Keln02
@Keln02 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, finally a stack worth facing against.
@saphirone8030
@saphirone8030 2 жыл бұрын
Khorne is probably really emotionnaly conflicted about this army right now
@larsmuller97
@larsmuller97 2 жыл бұрын
I came up with a similar doomstack on my own campaign. What i do is mix in a lot of heroes from all gods except tzeentch. So i get 4 plagueriddens one of wich is death magic and all with locus of fecundity. Get two shadow demmonets for magical damage and with the phys resistance and melee defence buff and two blood reapers one with dmg buff and other attack buff. I also get one or two beasts of nurgle for their passive aoe debuff. And usually i get a bloodthirster general to buff the bloodthirsters. I just get them in a big ball and throw it in the thickest part of the enemy army. You can also get even more debuffs and buffs by stacking your heroes with items. Frankly seems unstopable to me. You can also do it with keepers of secrets and some soul grinders of slaanesh but from my testing seems way less effective.
@thewonderfullymadejaraid7015
@thewonderfullymadejaraid7015 2 жыл бұрын
If the daemon prince had access to a red skill tree, magic items and ancillaries, he would be so much better than he is now.
@joethesheep4675
@joethesheep4675 2 жыл бұрын
Cathay, of all ppl fails to get organized. XD
@millerrepin4452
@millerrepin4452 2 жыл бұрын
The demon lord, a better accountant than fighter.
@pierate4701
@pierate4701 2 жыл бұрын
Chaos Undivided makes them stronger, the armoured champion of chaos set gives +15% Physical resist and +20 armour to the whole army. Khorne devotion just gets you lower upkeep.
@Dejawolfs
@Dejawolfs 2 жыл бұрын
yup. did a bunch of rip and tear with that.
@aldirnila6215
@aldirnila6215 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, it's insanely good and for only 2K upkeep.
@TruthBlackheart
@TruthBlackheart 2 жыл бұрын
Who would win? Cathays finest warriors or 17 of the spiciest boys?
@stoopidyoutubehandle
@stoopidyoutubehandle 2 жыл бұрын
This is impressive. I never liked blood thirsters in my khorne playthrough. They are expensive and squishy all-rounder only good for tearing down towers. If I want anti-large I go MinotaurGW. If I want to flank I get skullcrasher, If I want to harass ranged units, I just summon bloodletter on their face. It’s good to see you put them in good use as Daniel, the Meme prince.
@blakeares3424
@blakeares3424 2 жыл бұрын
I do like the Armored Prince of Chaos set more. At the cost of a way more expensive army, you get +15% physical resist for the whole army, as well as the Daemon Prince being tough enough to actually participate in the fight.
@Escritorez
@Escritorez 2 жыл бұрын
".... legend turtle here..."
@zaen_vg
@zaen_vg 2 жыл бұрын
"Demon prince is shiet but the army is so good" I look at the army of Bloodthirsters and each one has the same stats of the prince xD
@leodoe1350
@leodoe1350 2 жыл бұрын
i'd choose undivided path for this because you loose 50% upkeep reduction ( you have 10% upkeep reduction while undivided) but you gain 15% physical resistance and 20 armor on your entire army and its just so good
@TheBottleofrum
@TheBottleofrum 2 жыл бұрын
If you want to make the army better you can get the armored undivided deamon prince set. It gives the army 15% physical resistance and more weopon strength. If you dont mind the upkeep.
@66687lucas
@66687lucas 2 жыл бұрын
The trees should be destructible.
@adammclaughlin845
@adammclaughlin845 2 ай бұрын
To be fair, when you say the DP has lower melee attack than a Bloodthirster... so does everything else in the Warhammer world. It's a Bloodthirster! 😁
@Deerygccawwetthjbgde
@Deerygccawwetthjbgde 2 жыл бұрын
What Prague faces on a daily basis
@kevinyu1224
@kevinyu1224 2 жыл бұрын
Cathay!! You are not prepared!!!
@hepp5150
@hepp5150 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Warhammer 3 is my first total war game (cause game pass) and I absolutely love it, would you also recommend Warhammer 1 and 2 or are there a lot of missing features between the earlier game and this newer one? Keep up the great work I'm loving the channel so far!
@Camo869
@Camo869 2 жыл бұрын
Warhammer 1 is boring in comparasion. But you will need to buy it to get the full map. Warhammer 2 is great, but it is the most fun with the DLCs and if you want all of them, it will be very expensive.
@soleiljaan3757
@soleiljaan3757 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't get Warhammer 3.. waiting for CA to fix it. Legendof Total WAR youre a legend THANK YOU for everything. But I am building a raitiling gun doomstack and it's just way more fun
@dntthe88
@dntthe88 2 жыл бұрын
Theres an armor set for undivided for the prince that gives the entire army +20 armor and +15% physical resist and he ends up with 150 armor. One of the few that buffs the whole army itself might be worth using.
@dntthe88
@dntthe88 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the reduced upkeep its needed for this idk but the undivided set is better in every other regard
@yahoody1978
@yahoody1978 2 жыл бұрын
We can take them! There's only twenty of them.
@michalvargic9178
@michalvargic9178 2 жыл бұрын
Khorne cultist doomstack may be good
@MartynWilkinson45
@MartynWilkinson45 2 жыл бұрын
The hell is wrong with Daniel's hitbox? Even if you do stack up resistances and armour, he seems to take more damage from shooting than other big lords. It's like he's a reverse mammoth, with a hitbox bigger than his body.
@Ballagorn_Ironblood
@Ballagorn_Ironblood 2 жыл бұрын
What I feel from start was and still is Daemon Prince just need standard combat skill tree to not be a victim of Skarsnik's Laughter, in that note I don't know why Tarriff do not do video about it yet
@Stedman75
@Stedman75 2 жыл бұрын
SKARBRAND HATES HOT AIR BALLOONS NO FOLLOWING THE RULES
@hadcam4962
@hadcam4962 2 жыл бұрын
Did the same thing with dedication to Slannesh, never needed to go to end game units, Exaleted Daemonetes won me the map easily.
@zimtwiers9726
@zimtwiers9726 2 жыл бұрын
i would say that the only dedication that is meh, is tzeench
@OpiatesAndTits
@OpiatesAndTits 2 жыл бұрын
Blood shrines cannot hide but he can hide on a juggernaut. I’d say with the way you want to use this army something like a shadow alluress on those snake horse things would do well.
@Vatzbalerg
@Vatzbalerg 2 жыл бұрын
Only thing i would change is getting Locus of Contagion on the Plagueridden. Its really good for killing blobs of infantry and has unlimited uses. 3 uses of the aoe heal Locus, when you already have aoe healing with magic, isnt worth much in comparison.
@pimentinha1121
@pimentinha1121 2 жыл бұрын
The blood shrine cant hide so i imagine thats why he is on foot
@skupipup
@skupipup 2 жыл бұрын
That's a pretty decent army for the 2 grand upkeep.
@jontyhugh1080
@jontyhugh1080 2 жыл бұрын
As an average total war fan who doesn't know the ins and outs of stats, its funny hearing you say stuff like 'We have 20 bloodthirsters this should be alright' haha
@curtisbrown547
@curtisbrown547 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a one man doomstack exalted bloodthirster
@swiftdasher
@swiftdasher 2 жыл бұрын
I have no idea how it'd be possible to do so but I really want to see these doomstacks put up against each other
@PossiblyOmegon
@PossiblyOmegon 2 жыл бұрын
I mean you could save the heroes from the armies and set up custom battles couldn’t you?
@frogridge
@frogridge 2 жыл бұрын
25:38 was the tech bonus for bloodthristers 30% charge, which is basically nothing
@padmister123
@padmister123 2 жыл бұрын
I know you wouldn't get the upkeep reduction, but in terms of pure strength this army led by an exalted greater demon would be way stronger. I'm thinking exalted Great Unclean One. The big fat boi don't fly but you could swap out the plagueridden for another bloodthirster. If you really want your lord to fly you could go exalted bloodthirster and keep the plagueridden. You could give the exalted daemon a blade of slaanesh or chainsaw and they would be an awesome lord in their own right. I like the Daniel faction in general, it just needs a few tweaks. It is pretty disappointing that a fully Khorne-pledged daemon prince can be this weak. You would expect him to be at least on par with a bloodthirster with a bunch more utility.
@manopeace9175
@manopeace9175 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the vids brah
@Litany_of_Fury
@Litany_of_Fury 2 жыл бұрын
Daemon Prince needs to be able to equip items. He's so bad right now.
@aprinnyonbreak1290
@aprinnyonbreak1290 2 жыл бұрын
Just buffing the body parts would be better. The problem right now is that chest 1 giving 10% physical resistance, 20 Armor, and 15 Melee defence, and Chest 2 giving 10% physical resistance, 15 Armor, 15 Melee Defense, and 5 Melee Attack is endlessly pointless.
@joshua41175
@joshua41175 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if dino dumpster stack would counter this well enough or if you couldn't out dps that heal with stegadons.
@joshua41175
@joshua41175 2 жыл бұрын
What I mean is, how fast can you lord snipe before the bloodthirsters lock down your life slaan. Carnosaurs might screen but they would need help. Troglodon might help but doubt it. Maybe skinks on trogs.
@joshua41175
@joshua41175 2 жыл бұрын
@@ForbiddenFollyFollower sorry, stegadons.
@khosrowzare8301
@khosrowzare8301 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, for the longest time, the most powerful doomstack in WH2 belonged to the (then) shit beastmen faction (the stinky one). So, a shit faction/LL having a good doomstack isn't that strange.
@bobbo8u
@bobbo8u 2 жыл бұрын
Shadow Alluress on a steed would be the best land unit. shadow magic + 100 speed in case there is nowhere to hide
@InvinciblKillerQueen
@InvinciblKillerQueen 2 жыл бұрын
Ngl, pretty funny that the Daemon Prince sold his soul for powers that are way worse than normal items
@Coolguy2388
@Coolguy2388 2 жыл бұрын
What are your go to units for Khorne if bloodthirsters dont heal? Will there be a Khorne Tier video soon? Thank you!
@CrimsonUltrafox
@CrimsonUltrafox 2 жыл бұрын
For Khorne, Skarbrand is essentially unstoppable fully maxed out. I beat a Very Hard Khorne Campaign mostly running whatever and I took 17 Bloodthirsters and 2 heroes on bloodshrines to easily win the Be'lakor fight. Exalted Bloodletters are really good, the chaos warriors with halberds are good. Bloodcrushers are good. Most Khorne units are viable in my opinion being either B, A, or S tier. Technically, there's not much of a reason to even run a doomstack for Khorne. Your low tier units shit on Slaanesh units since the A.I. is laughably bad at playing Slaanesh right and by the time you're fighting Cathay/Kislev, you already have bloodthirsters usually. Really, you can run whatever you're able to afford. Also, you really don't have to worry much about healing Khorne units since they have such higher replenishment, and a good army can easily beat 2 at a time without losing any units. It's extremely rare to encounter a 4 stack army in the ROC campaign. Only time I saw it was a Kurgan attack against the Bastion. Most of my Khorne campaign I just used Exalted bloodthirsters, chaos warriors with halberds, a couple bloodthirsters, some bloodcrushers to easily catch and destroy fast units, and a bloodshrine or two. I mean even in this video, he probably wouldn't have needed to even heal the bloodthirsters because none of them got close to dying against a 4 stack Cathay army. Add in Skarbrand instead of Daemon Prince and the bloodthirster doomstack is extremely viable for Exiles of Khorne as well as Daemons of Chaos.
@alirezarezaei2976
@alirezarezaei2976 2 жыл бұрын
Hey you Khorny boy?!!! Yes you ... Why you despise magic when you know that will make you over powered?! The Khornate follower: Because GW and CA didn't give us magic!!!!
@spoof6023
@spoof6023 2 жыл бұрын
On the battlefield the prince is a joke. But the kind of weird armies you can make are nuts. I usually go undivided with nurgle and khorne max then I dedicate to undivided to get the rest of the high tier units from the rest.of the pantheons. My multiplayer campaigns are kinda ez
@androniusmaximus3073
@androniusmaximus3073 2 жыл бұрын
Great video legend. I know this is kinda unrelated but I think 4x speed is bugged. It feels the EXACT same as 2x speed. I noticed this in a battle I won yesterday and wanted to run down broken units.
@M.L.official
@M.L.official 2 жыл бұрын
Bloodshrines cant hide
@Arhatu
@Arhatu 2 жыл бұрын
Doomstack pvp battles would be interesting.
@kohlenkurt3155
@kohlenkurt3155 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool doomstack, but i still think Zhao Ming 1Man Doomstack is "better". I have the "perfect" version of this in my current campain (missing only throt trait) and he just cant loose. The big reason why i think Zhao is better than this doomstack here is the fact that the auto resolve thinks hes an absolute pushover, so enemy armies throw themselfes at him instead of running away.
@damionwhitehead1165
@damionwhitehead1165 2 жыл бұрын
That's amazing.
@JB-xl2jc
@JB-xl2jc 2 жыл бұрын
That really is a huge benefit, the amount of enemy armies you can freely crush is a hugely important consideration.
@darkrite9000
@darkrite9000 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and against AI that is very important to consider, but let's say you're fighting another player in a multiplayer campaign. This army would beat Zhao Ming, granted I think the army may actually be better if you had it commanded by a herald or exalted bloodthirster (though sadly for multiplayer campaigns, CA seems to have either overlooked the fact the ascension dilemma doesn't pop up, or made it purposely not pop up, so you can't get exalted daemon lords in multiplayer, which saddens me in my current multi with my friend, I'm playing Skarbrand, he's playing Cathay, I'd really like a bloodthirster lord, but I am not getting the dilemma that should pop up at lvl 14 or 15, and I've got heralds that are lvl 30). But that's if you're playing against other players, but against the AI, who wouldn't recognize a 1 man doomstack as a threat, the 1 man doomstack is better. (edit: I suppose having the army be significantly cheaper using the demon prince is probably more important than the slightly better bonuses a khorne lord would give, plus the fact an exalted bloodthirster lord would be a much better fighter, but no reason you couldn't have another one of these armies commanded by such a lord).
@kohlenkurt3155
@kohlenkurt3155 2 жыл бұрын
@@darkrite9000 i am not 100% sure they would beat him tbh. The question is if they could outdamage his regen, if not they might not be able to beat him. He has a constant aoe damage item and can cast final transmutation on them. And if he can get to the caster he kills him in seconds, since his meele stats are better than each single bloodthirster. And he has up to 1.5k ap damage. Player vs player is kind of a different animal so i am not sure how this would play out but i have fought with hi against 5 keeper of secrets and nkari (and 2armys) and his healthbar did not even really move.
@darkrite9000
@darkrite9000 2 жыл бұрын
@@kohlenkurt3155 Well for the matter on the caster, it'd be hard to get away from a bunch of bloodthirsters, cause they have enough mass to block him, whether it be landed or otherwise, so the likelihood of getting at the caster would be pretty low. As for final transmutation, I've not used it yet in WH3, but in WH2 it kinda sucked, too expensive for the actual damage it'd do, that is unless you're a certain supreme patriarch. So I just don't think Zhao Ming can deal with that many Bloodthirsters, he doesn't have unlimited regen, it's just that him and Miao Ying have twice as much regen as anyone else. Although if you're being attacked by that many bloodthirsters at once, or even just 6 or so at once, it'd probably be enough to give his regen a run for it's money so to speak, now if he's in human form, less bloodthirsters can hit him at once, but he would be knocked around a lot more. Also a player would know to buff the bloodthirster's attack using the bloodreaper's one ability for more reliable damage. But yeah would need to actually have 2 players do a multi, and test this out to know a bit more for certain.
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