Unfortunately, A Spare Rations Review
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Spare Rations is back and the game has moved on. I have no idea why Bungie gave it back to use like it is. In the review, I talk about what is *needed* on Spare. You need specific things. The silver lining is that there is one thing you should 100% pick up on it.
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@CoolGuyGames Жыл бұрын
First mind bender now spare
@MrAaron021 Жыл бұрын
My exact comment.
@LuisHGarcia Жыл бұрын
Who's next? Dust Rock Blues?
@krisrobitzsch Жыл бұрын
Perfectly objective and informative video bud.
@rangertau Жыл бұрын
Sole Survivor got just as shafted. So depressing man :(
@broderickfoster2107 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been using Spare with Loaded Question for the last week and it’s a combo that works really well. I see a lot of content creators using spare but not taking advantage of its origin trait whenever possible and that trait seriously boosts it. Also it’s less of a laning weapon like some people use it as and more of a charge in and hit or finish someone off with. In that regard it does a fantastic job, it’s not the same as Austringer or Rose and I wouldn’t use them the same way, they each excel at their own thing.
@pencilswordfish Жыл бұрын
Somebody over there at Bungie really hated Spare-Benders and reprised both of them as PVE guns out of spite.
@reynauldwhistles2338 Жыл бұрын
Lol but for real is there a single old 150 now 140 thats still good?
@uncoveredkhan09gaming38 Жыл бұрын
@@reynauldwhistles2338rose lol other then that tho....
@enigmabloom Жыл бұрын
The downfall that happens when you have devs that are also your play-testers. Things that get nerfed is whatever rolled them for straight matches, skill issue notwithstanding.
@liquidrufus Жыл бұрын
@@uncoveredkhan09gaming38rose is still a proper 150. Really wish SR was one still
@RagingADHD Жыл бұрын
@@reynauldwhistles2338sunshot I believe is the only one besides Rose?
@sjfortson Жыл бұрын
Waking Vigil was also left behind with the Lightweight range stat when updated.
@joshuaroman6479 Жыл бұрын
It's the saddest thing; it's got one of the coolest-looking designs of any of the 140's but it just feels terrible to use.
@hailfastcorexxx Жыл бұрын
I have a rapid hit/opening shot Waking Vigil that feels so crisp but then I try to duel outside of its range and I might as well be blowing bubbles at my opponent.
@TheXivu_Arath 9 ай бұрын
I’m surprised(I guess I’m not really surprised) that Bungie didn’t adjust the old 150 stats.
@haydenbell1758 18 сағат бұрын
Still one of the best feeling hand cannons in the game to this day for dueling
@GeremyG Жыл бұрын
It almost feels personal what Bungie did to Spare Rations and Mindbenders when they were re-introduced
@torturedkfpemployee883 Жыл бұрын
Missed out on being craftable right when they were gonna make less weapons craftable
@kenzilbaptiste2519 Жыл бұрын
Mind benders was always a shit inconsistent shotty .... nostalgia is a hell of a drug .. that thing hardly ever one hit ..but it had old qd so it felt so good ..as soon as felwinters came out ...mb was in the vault ..and u could feel a night and day difference... All the people who kept their godroll mb it's still shit today.... Even with the og perks ...wanna know why ?....figure it out 😂
@andrewlance5471 Жыл бұрын
@@kenzilbaptiste2519maybe because they nerf shotty range every 6 months by like a meter each time? Mindbenders was only used for QuickDraw and because it was in the archetype it was in.
@weebtrash3376 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewlance5471that’s kind of his point though. People cry about the fact that mindbenders was ruined when it was going to be bad since they replace QuickDraw with surplus on aggressives. I’d say it’s fine nowadays with the buff fragile focus got with threat detector being one of the best perks for shotguns too.
@Caydeson-1 Жыл бұрын
Back in Witch Queen they updated the stats of some of the old 150s, Spare Rations got +4 range, +4 stability, and -9 aim assist. Those plus fours aren't doing much, but what I find surprising is it's still archetype high aim assist after a -9.
@julianlak1017 Жыл бұрын
Shows you how power crept it was back then. 150’s NEEDED to be kept in check with bad stats like waking vigil was.
@spedahhcookie 10 ай бұрын
ngl it needs a bigger stat bump than rose, rose has grips, and spare doesnt. imo +5 or MAYBE +10 more range would be good, and maybe reduce the aim assist a bit to be more inline with 140s
@SpareMain 10 ай бұрын
funnily enough they reverted the stat change except they left the aim assist lower
@FrothyMeanV2 Жыл бұрын
I have played 10 crucible matches in the last 2 seasons. I still watch all your videos because of how good your in depth reviews are
@iponce2 Жыл бұрын
Same here, though you've got way more crucible games on me lol
@Welverin Жыл бұрын
He does touch on PvE rolls too, admittedly to a lesser degree.
@ak-1832 Жыл бұрын
just like me fr
@Bubba1025 Жыл бұрын
I feel that. Only time I will go into pvp is solely for weapon roll farming
@ifti1311 Жыл бұрын
0:25...Retribution. God I miss that map. I remember the chaos that map turned into during the Hard Light meta
@JDT979 Жыл бұрын
The kinetic tremors one might be really good after/if the HC buff they announced goes through.
@Uchoobdood Жыл бұрын
I kept a couple rolls with kinetic trem just for this reason
@andrewlance5471 Жыл бұрын
How many shots to proc tremors? Hopefully not 12 like sidearms.
@96ayasaki Жыл бұрын
@@andrewlance5471 6 shots for tremors
@jotarora9310 Жыл бұрын
@@96ayasakibruh i'm never putting that on a hc
@ErikTaylor Жыл бұрын
I have a slideshot tremors that feels great. Still hunting the rapid hit/tremors one
@elapsed5943 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I still love how it feels, despite rose, nation and fatebringer being infinitely better stats and perk wise
@gabrieltorres6633 Жыл бұрын
Better range but spare has it elsewhere. It's a total stat monster and with range changes coming it could be even better
@MaxTheFun1995 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, that's alot about what weapons are like in this game! Which is weird if u think about it!! 🤣🤣🤣
@shadowranger125 Жыл бұрын
Same. Austringer and Spare are the best feeling hand cannons for me, and I’ll choose them over the stat monsters any day.
@RefMr Жыл бұрын
That’s me with Lodbrok, cause I know 360 autos aren’t meta in any part of the game but something about it gels with me in a way I can’t explain! lol The firing rhythm, the range that often surprises pulse and scout users, flinching them all over, love it. I try other autos or pulses and do worse with much better guns, so I’ve accepted that it’s just more fun to use what you like and not be a slave to what’s the best~
@lukatosic09 Жыл бұрын
It's because of its super high handling, reload and aim assist
@jordanrollins3696 Жыл бұрын
Do keep in mind that rangefinder is getting changed to no longer actually give a range boost. It won’t make this the best hand cannon still, I’d say that goes to fatebringer whenever the changes go live. But it will be definitely more competitive
@ShaoShaoMienshao Жыл бұрын
Anything with Explosive Rounds, or Zen Moment to counter EP flinch, are going to be the new kings. Unfortunately for Spare and Fatebringer, that includes Rose and Nation of Beasts.
@thecupcakelord5103 Жыл бұрын
@@ShaoShaoMienshaofatebringer has ep…
@chubbubdreamer6904 Жыл бұрын
What will Rangefinder actually do then?
@thecupcakelord5103 Жыл бұрын
@@chubbubdreamer6904 no range bonus, it will give an aim assist bonus or something like that I think
@chubbubdreamer6904 Жыл бұрын
@@thecupcakelord5103 Sounds like that will be too weak or too strong.
@Blackhart-7 Жыл бұрын
I'm just surprised they didn't update the stats, they did it for others, you'd think they'd remember to do that
@GrizzlyWithAJetpack Жыл бұрын
This should have been a craftable weapon, not to mention it should have been fixed in the 150 merge
@puzzleful887 Жыл бұрын
I said this same thing on TVs review of Spare Rations, but I got the 5/5(Full bore/Hammer-forged, ricochet, range MW, slideshot, opening shot) god roll on my first drop of the weapon(I never have good RNG so this made me really happy), and it feels fantastic to me. And I'm not a HC user normally, the only other ones that I've really enjoyed at all are Cantata and Exalted, but compared to those, it just feels SO good.
@scottparrott5674 Жыл бұрын
Austringer still my favourite by far. Just the feel of the gun and being craftable. Rose with elemental capacitor and stability masterwork comes close though.
@gyrozeppeli8303 Жыл бұрын
Honestly try out eyasluna if you get a good roll
@VAVORiAL Жыл бұрын
I was an Austringer boi, but then I got a Moving Target + Rangefinder Eyasluna.
@Mr-R.R. Жыл бұрын
@@VAVORiALGod luck with that roll once the rework to rangefinder comes in
@scottparrott5674 Жыл бұрын
@democreus Just try ones you got you might be surprised. My god roll ended up being elemental capacitor and eye of the storm. I use void hunter to buff stability and I got lucky with hammer forged, accurized, and range masterwork so it ended up being a complete all arounder.
@FeverSensei Жыл бұрын
Them taking away rangefinder feels personal and intended, like bungo really hated Spare (mind benders too) and wanted them to just be talked about for hype for the game and then forgotten about
@IK4MS Жыл бұрын
Took away Rangefinder, took away Rampage, took away Explosive Payload... Took away Opening Shot from Sole Survivor, took away Quickdraw and Slideshot from MIndbender's... Someone at bungie just really hates bringing back anything that's not Ménagerie-related me thinks
@ssegrumpsn335 Жыл бұрын
How do you feel about Targeted Redaction? I just crafted it and I’m just using base Well-Rounded + Keep Away and it feels really nice
@TheGraffiti600rr Жыл бұрын
I got rapid hit tremors last night. Been using it on my strand hunter with lucky pants. Seems alright.
@adummy9664 Жыл бұрын
I think the issue with Spare Rations isn't so much how it was refreshed but that the meta has just shifted a lot in the past 4 years, even if it came back 1 to 1 as it was before not much would really change because all the new version is missing is Rangefinder which won't even matter in a few months. (Though I will say I wish it could get the old curated combo of Overflow/Explosive Payload, which would have synergized with the new trait it has.) Somebody else also already mentioned this but what's funny is you said that they should've bumped up the Range for being a 140 now but that's exactly what they did back around Witch Queen giving it +4 Range +4 Stability and -9 Aim Assist, though I don't disagree that Spare along with other previous 150s should still have their Lightweight Frame like Rose does now to differentiate them a bit more. (I mean if we can have two difference kinds of 900 SMGs then I don't see why not have two different types of 140 HCs as well.) Though at the end of the day I'll still address the elephant in the room and agree that part of the problem is that Rose is just better, technically doesn't have as much Handling as Spare but the Grip traits on Rose can make up that difference, but I think there's more nuance to it than just "Spare Rations bad" with everything that's been changed and added to the game overtime.
@tenacity25 Жыл бұрын
The only thing about this that wasn't done right, in my opinion, is that it should've been a Lightweight frame. Its perks are serviceable, but second to some of the best 140s. If it was a lightweight, it'd have a purpose. Lightweight 140s that trade range for handling, reload, and aim assist should be their own archetype beyond Rose. Spare should've been the second. edit: and, it would've allowed Rose to still be the 'better' one and warrant being a comp reward with its origin perk being the way it is. edit2: Oh, and they should convert some of the other old 150s to lightweight 140s as well. edit3: And to be clear, a lightweight 140 hand cannon would be better for my playstyle than any high-range adaptive. With Rose, I find myself making better plays, having better positioning, just playing better. Problem is, I hate the sights on rose, I miss half my shots. I land my shots with Spare. This being a lightweight would have been perfect for me, perks aside. Plus, I never got my godroll rose anyways. Grinded a ton. It never dropped. Either zero range, or the wrong perks. So my best Spare is better than my best Rose.
@MrMightyZ Жыл бұрын
You are 100% right for right now but I think that's a big part of why they turned all lightweight 150s in to 140s. Apart from them having almost no disadvantages compared to 140s, very mobile and skilful players were too dominant. Right now with the huge range advantage standard 140s have it would be prime time to make Spare a lightweight again but then when they "standardise" range next season it sounds like they'd be back to the same old problem and adaptives would have nothing to offer.
@tenacity25 Жыл бұрын
@@MrMightyZ I disagree. Simply put, the lower range stat would hurt quite a bit. In fact, it would probably make more of a difference than currently, particularly with something like a rangefinder rose, since the zoom would be less impactful than the range stat itself.
@MrMightyZ Жыл бұрын
@@tenacity25 You may be right. I may have misinterpreted what the changes to range are going to be.
@tenacity25 Жыл бұрын
@@MrMightyZ The effective range of hand cannons is going up to be closer to rangefinder levels, but less than that of rangefinder, with the effect of the range stat itself not being changed, but zoom/rangefinder no longer being a significant factor on it. How the effective range scales relative to the range stat is not changing - if we just ignore zoom as a stat, they are quite literally just giving hand cannons a flat range buff across the board, which means that a 100 range hand cannon still has way more range than one with like 50-60
@osxgp Жыл бұрын
Corkscrew, ricochet, moving target, and kinetic tremors with a range masterwork. I used this in the Lightblade GM and it worked out great especially when kiting the boss
@huegofarley4684 4 ай бұрын
"i can't tell y- ITSEVERYGAME" i'm dead 💀bungie pls buff the range stat on my boy
@MrBone-qv5tz Жыл бұрын
My biggest gripe is how Spare Rations and the other Season 6 reprised weapons aren’t even craftable.
@Davethespade Жыл бұрын
For me slide shot focused fury is the only reason to run this. I absolutely loved finite impactor with slideways FF and this beats that. Being able to keep FF up pretty much permanently with either radiant or empowering rift is a lot of fun. Slightly disappointing it did not get the dire promise treatment though. hopefully this perk combo comes again on a better stats HC
@DuckButter81 Жыл бұрын
I got one with full bore, ricochet rounds, slideshot, opening shot, and a stability masterwork, and it feels amazing in the crucible. Despite the fact that it has less range Spare Rations still feels so freakin good to use in pvp.
@alphtheor.879 Жыл бұрын
this season have you noticed the spawn changes they made in control? I haven't seen anything on it, but while holding B that team seems to spawn further forward on larger maps, because of this the Bless team is getting backed into spawn like they're on dead cliffs, and like dead cliffs it seems like even if they've pushed into your spawn the game won't flip the spawns.
@Saucedup16 Жыл бұрын
Bungie removing 150 rpm handcannons really hurts more than they intended I feel like
@FAUXCUSpd Жыл бұрын
i miss 150s so much
@minster4568 Жыл бұрын
Is it in the cards for bungie to give spare like +7 range to make it competitive like they did before introducing it? Maybe if it's still underwhelming after the zoom standardization
@Bubba1025 Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how the pinnacle role for PvE back then was still outlaw rampage. Now a days legendary weapons can cause room clearing nukes and give you instant over-shields.
@danielvigario3477 Жыл бұрын
I got one with subsistance/focused fury. Range masterwork, high cal, but then has fluted barrel. I cant use other rolls, it just feels too good! i had the slideshot/opening and the rapid hit/kinetic tremors, and dismantle both after thying them! For some reason that subsistence/ff just feels like all i need! flcused fury procs every single life in PvP, becomes a 2h1b and makes up for a bit of the range, subsistence works well with ff and the kill chain potencial skyrockets, i haven't lost a 2v1 for runing out of bulets since i've started using this thing. Then high cal/mw for the range and fluted is great to play to the strength, 86 handling. another thing is the origin trait, it gets way too little credit, extra range and flinch res for 1.5sec, aka more than the bodyshot ttk so it gets value all the way to the worst case! Its a super agressive handcannon and above all, it still feels like spare rations. I vaulted a fully crafted austringer, a 10/10 rose, and a 10/10 fatebringer (timelost), thats how good the weapon feels. defenetly different than all these top tier HCs, but it has his place
@shadowranger125 Жыл бұрын
I’ve actually had a lot of fun with Swashbuckler on dawnblade. Once you get the first kill, the little bump extends the effective range to make up for the lower stat. And if you land a celestial fire kill, radiant + swash x5 will 2-tap a lot of people. My roll has smallbore, ricky rounds, rapid hit, swash, and a range masterwork.
@L3RK Жыл бұрын
I've reassessed how I view range overall and it's made finding the weapon I need for a particular loadout way easier and opens up a ton of options at the same time. All I care about now when I use a HC is, "can it hit 30m". If it can, great. I can work with that range and it opens up a ton of other perks besides OS and RF. If I want to hit 30m-40m, Pulse. >40m, Scout. 15m-20m, SMG.
@Roundbrow Жыл бұрын
The feel of Spare Rations is still there - snappy as all hell and a sticky shot overall. Where range isn't as important (PvE like you said), it still feels great. But it isn't there currently in the PvP sandbox. I'd rather just use Ace.
@Burninizer Жыл бұрын
There was always something really nice about this gun - some combination of the appearance, sight, sound design, the ornament, it just had that flair that I liked. So I made it work; it's my kinetic confetti gun. I have an old Palindrome with subsistence/rampage, and as long as it has a mag size over 10 you can reload two bullets for a kill and it one-taps to the head in low-end content. It's incredibly silly and irritating with the Sweaty Confetti mod. NOW I can do this with Spare Rations too, with swashbuckler replacing rampage. Solid 69/10 meme gun for low level content, now in kinetic flavor.
@BigPapasmurf84 Жыл бұрын
I just got one with offhand strike and opening shot, range masterwork. I will let you know how it plays.
@prettysoIdier Жыл бұрын
4:32 I didn’t get the thumbnail reference or details until you mentioned it
@jcrakked Жыл бұрын
Sunset spare rations from ages ago feels better than the current one, waiting for a 5/5 to give the bigggest benefit of the doubt.
@hatchell18 Жыл бұрын
I got one of these with 67 range, 50 stability with 60 handling. It has sliding shot and focused fury
@AzureSapphires Жыл бұрын
I thought the thumbnail meant the barrel on spare was getting neutered because of its awful range, meanwhile the other 140s are like gigachad and didnt get neutered.
@Un3xpectedTruth Жыл бұрын
Still haven’t gotten a hand cannon to clear my Eyasluna.. hitmark,ricochet,rangefinder,snapshot and range MW. Target mod gets you 90 AA. Absolute unit
@wannabesedated Жыл бұрын
I still have mine (The OG one) with chamber compensator, AP rounds, rapid hit, RF and range MW. It slaps
@nikolassantoro7466 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think the best way to fix this hand cannon would be to make it a lightweight like Rose is, now. Same 140 rpm and all that, just more maneuverable.
@neuroticgothguy Жыл бұрын
i'm liking Spare Rations, though i think we'll definitely see a significant change in the overall landscape once the range/zoom change goes thru
@willardlarkinsnow5622 Жыл бұрын
Looking for that Nation of Beets review
@dev2935 Жыл бұрын
I dislike that when they bring old weapons back, they almost never correct the stats to reflect the archetype change
@Lemon-x- Жыл бұрын
There's a pretty funny thing you can do with spare with solar subclasses. Any spare with swash*5 + radiant buff will give you a guaranteed 2 tap (102 crit damage). So you can sort of make a gimmicky build around this using peregrine greaves on solar titan with the shoulder charge melee, get your 1 hit shoulder charge and then have the ability to 2 tap for 4.5 seconds, refreshing on kill. You could also do it with solar hunter with the weighted knife. This is really the only way I see it having any sort of use in PvP and even then it's a very gimmicky setup, more of a "for fun" build. That being said, ancient gospel (from GoS raid) can do the same thing but is also solar so can refresh the radiant buff timer if you have that fragment equipped. Albeit with less handling and aim assist, but with more range.
@joshuaotto8963 Жыл бұрын
I can intellectually understand its shortcomings, but it just got me my first and only "We Ran," so it is my favourite "new" HC.
@wyboycowboy Жыл бұрын
They could have kept the 150 archetype in general if they made it to where the range was absolutely abysmal. The biggest issue was always that 150's had the same TTK at the same ranges as a 140 but it just did it 10 RM faster. They did 150's right in Destiny. 150's in Destiny had similar TTK to 140's but their range was absolutely terrible and the drop off as horrible.
@QudoRS Жыл бұрын
and 150s were hot trash in destiny. 140s were superior in almost everyway. id rather not have 150s if they are just gonna be delete fodder
@wyboycowboy Жыл бұрын
@@QudoRS 150's had a very similar ttk their range was just kept to extreme close ranges which is where shotguns thrive. In their optimal ranges 150's actually did really well.
@SamStraker Жыл бұрын
Sideshot and Focus fury can turn this thing into a baby Hawkmoon. I recommend trying it out
@cherkv Жыл бұрын
Dunno if ill ever use it now with my own personal god roll rose, rangfinder and elemental capacitor, steady rounds, hammer forge, heavy grip! I could have 80 stabilty on arc and 100 handling, 48 range with rangfinder... or go void and have 100 stability and 50 handling, add armor mods and it is crisp, doesnt get flinched, handles well, and has that lightweight bonus while hitting pretty far for my aggressive style. I run sealed ahamkara grasps and a rapid fire fusion, zeolots reward, the one from gos. Smoke people on void and get the 50 ae and now more jump height. On arc, can tempest strike around cornors and clean up in the air. Got both these guns last season and put 500 plus pvp kills om each.
@dexamaz4863 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, it's a sidearm to me, and it's great with exotics that you'd use sidearms with. I took a handling mw and slideshot swash with mine, it crushes in a sweet spot specifically between pulse and smg range that's really effective to play. It hits 3 heads like it's nothing, and sliding left and right every few bullets to throw people off is really rewarding to me. If it had shipped as a different hand cannon it would have got traction, honestly. But it never would have been what it was, obviously, because it doesn't exist anymore for a good reason. I don't need my hand cannon to duel with pulses, I don't really care about dueling against ranged players, after a regular kill swash puts it to 75, it condends, the origin trait is a free opening shot, it pairs well with a shotgun, I honestly don't understand why people don't appreciate it for what it is.
@Calresio Жыл бұрын
I do not know if anyone said it but WOW, what a snipe with the Cloudstrike in that clip. Great work on the video, CG
@Deeeeve Жыл бұрын
Is there a chance it gets better when they make the changes to zoom and range?
@cxmxcl Жыл бұрын
It might indirectly get better because rangefinder will be getting nerfed but idrk if spare will be getting buffed
@packtray6569 Жыл бұрын
Joker's Wild footage in appropriate B&W
@wazsan Жыл бұрын
I feel like they will buff it considering it’s an adaptive with lightweight stats. Probably reduce handling and give it more range. Hopefully.
@OniClassic Жыл бұрын
this is the only weapon from this season's engrams that i haven't gotten to drop a single one of. still. i've crafted a couple of the taken themed ones, but have never gotten a spare 2.0
@thisisgarbage9892 Жыл бұрын
ironic that the most iconic gambit weapon is merely a Shell of What Was
@Efsneonhearts Жыл бұрын
Ironically this stat problem is the case for "older" weapons Like judgments sittings at a base 42 stability and range this with Hand cannon sights makes it feel like garbage even when you're meant to build craft into Judgment's stats
@kovanova9409 Жыл бұрын
Maybe it's just me but I don't do well with high range rolls. Then again I play closer alot.
@MrMightyZ Жыл бұрын
I have a 4 out of 5 Spare with 66 range with Fullbore, Light Mag and range MW and Moving Target and Kinetic Tremors and even though I only have 40 stability it feels phenomenal but yes I agree I could out-duel myself at least 90% of the time with any of my Outlasts, Horror’s Leasts or Ogmas. But it feels SO GOOD and as the 120 Taken version proves, that could be 50% just the sound. SOOO GOOD!
@dc_thejoker7805 Жыл бұрын
Spare rations is Lighting Mcqueen in Cars 3
@jameslombardi17 Жыл бұрын
Hey cool guy. What's the roll on your austringer? You mentioned it in the video. Thanks for your time looking at my comment
@Zero_8347 Жыл бұрын
I want fluted, handling mw, snapshot and opening shot, for bow swapping. I usually use a sidearm, but it's nice to have a snappy hc on hand.
@vskyzz-l-8002 11 ай бұрын
Got a spare with hammerforged, ricochet round, slideshot, swashbuckler and range masterwork. I prefer swash over opening because swash times 1 allowes you to kill a T9 or below resil guardian in 2 headshots and 1 body. If you get swash times 5 it even deals more damage than ace with memento mori
@gmdark7620 Жыл бұрын
They did that to ALL returning reckoning weapons. All the weapons returned with a much worse perk selection for the most part. Example: Sole survivor once got 4th times/ firing line. No longer possible.
@julianlak1017 Жыл бұрын
They actually did adjust the stats a while back. Reduced the aim assist and added some range amd stability
@joshuasmith6909 4 ай бұрын
And yet somehow, this is the best performing Hand Cannon in the Crucible. Wild.
@Paperhatchett Жыл бұрын
I have snapshot killclip with 61 range spare and I love it tbh
@bekfistwolf8248 Жыл бұрын
I'd say that barrel and mag needs to be ricochet and full bore. This is the only hand cannon I've taken full bore on but honestly the handling can take the hit for a little extra range. Even with that it's still best used very aggressively
@SPARE4RATIONS Жыл бұрын
As someone who has a 1k of crucible kills on spare I will uncomfortably use my god roll eyasluna.
@Chewie571 Жыл бұрын
Im so glad someone finally acknowledges that healing rifts are a thing in pvp. Im so tired of seeing people callout void overshields while they pretend like a healing rift doesnt do the same thing but better.
@ShadowChief117 Жыл бұрын
The title to this video honestly made me laugh so hard hahaha
@Dedwagon Жыл бұрын
they took all the perks that I had on my old spations and gave me nothing that I would want in return
@dontbeshady411 Жыл бұрын
I don't know how you hit anything with 47 stability on controller. Completely unviable for me. I need 65+ stability to use a Hand Cannon because I'm bad.
@RagingADHD Жыл бұрын
Pull the stick down more as recoil climbs higher. Learn the shot rhythm and recoil becomes more manageable. I used to roll near max stability. But after the changes i no longer go for 50+ stability. Depends on the feel of the weapon too, I got 5/5 god roll of most iconic HCs, but never use any because it blocks my sight or the feel is trash
@EnvisionedBlindness Жыл бұрын
They called it jokers wild *A SINGLE TIME DURING THE TIMELINE REVEAL* The name was changed. It went season of the forge and then season of the *DRIFTER* Christ I feel like no one remembers this shit it was only 5 years ago
@DrStunJosh Жыл бұрын
Personally, I’m exhausted with 140s and really wish 180s got more love. Umless you have Posterity from DSC (and even then I wish it had something else), you next best option is Frontier’s Cry-both are stat monsters, but one is “difficult” to acwuire and the other is missing stronger perks. Really hoping we get a strong, craftable, easily acceptable 180 in an upcoming season. That said, I think of SP as a discount Thorn. If it had a column 3 Encore, I think it would’ve made a lot of difference.
@jedimike7622 Жыл бұрын
My favorite 180 is Trust. I love using it, but I do feel like it needs something to be more competitive. I don't know what, because I'm not that deep into knowing how these things work, but... something.
@DrStunJosh Жыл бұрын
@@jedimike7622 having looked at the stats and pool, I think it comes down to decent combos. For PvE, it shines with Rampage and Incandescent….but there are other craftable HC that can do it better; for PvP, you are hoping for range perks + a good column 3 like Opening Shot or Rapid Hit + a column 4 dmg perk like Rampage, GT, or Junkie. Overall, because of the perk pool size, getting a perfect Trust is hard. Even then, it’s competiting with a lot of guns, mostly 140s, for that slot in either content.
@jedimike7622 Жыл бұрын
@@DrStunJosh I know. I just love the way it feels, more than any other HC.
@DrStunJosh Жыл бұрын
@@jedimike7622 I had my Y2 Trust and Spare Rations for a long time. I’m still grinding for a perfect Trust but I’d love a good 180 craftable next season. Preferably a kinetic that can flex pvp and pve
@jedimike7622 Жыл бұрын
@@DrStunJosh same here. Reset Gambit like three times in one week this season.
@juwanrigby1924 Жыл бұрын
Bug out bag might be meta when rangefinder get nerf if you want a good smg
@crabbypatty10fefrefe Жыл бұрын
"I can't tell ya' how many t... IT'S EVERY GAME!" Lmao Indeed.
@tombstonesmb8730 Жыл бұрын
I have a number of roles with Fluted Barrel and a Handling MW making the stat a 96. If range is normalized on Hand Cannons in a way that makes its low range not as much of a factor, having a 96 Handling Hand Cannon could be nuts.
@NEWGHOST9 Жыл бұрын
Ah so i guess i got a new pve handcanon to chase, been needing a new kinetic pve hc
@jombii-7090 Жыл бұрын
That thumbnail perfectly describes the situation with Spare Rations It's good, but everything else is better and it's not even close
@Nosavo Жыл бұрын
Great sniper at 2:00
@iconriot8349 Жыл бұрын
I get what you are saying about Spare, but the clips where you are getting out ranged, you didn't even utilize slide shot. Slide shot allows it to compete.
@iryfly Жыл бұрын
All 140s that use to be 150s need a +5 to +10 buff in range and stability and range finder for sure even when its gets nerfed again
@cykeok3525 Жыл бұрын
Spare Rations and Mindbender's Ambition are not outdated artifacts that have been outmoded; they are *nerfed* guns, only sharing the same name and 3d model. If you transplanted versions of them that functioned *exactly* the way they did in their day, they'd still whip the ever-living shit out of every weapon in the roster today.. ..which would break the Crucible into two sore halves that couldn't walk straight for days. So perhaps it's for the best they aren't the monsters they were.
@renatovujicic2148 10 ай бұрын
Spare rations just feels amazing hopefully it gets a bit range buff
@RhapsodicXStyle07 Жыл бұрын
I don't know why they never changed the stats of the previous 150. Even the exotics have bad range, it was that trade off but now they need to remove that.
@HollowPoint503 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, it feels like this review is premature without knowing the bonus range values Disaster Plan gives. All of the perk sites are saying it lasts 1.5 seconds after firing which is enough time to get off 5 shots. If it gives something like +10 or even +20 range, it would totally make it viable for a Shotgun/fusion build. You’d have to be mindful to stay on top of those ammo bricks.
@Helmsy_53Gaming Жыл бұрын
Honestly, using my 4/5 slideshot opening shot roll. When disaster plan is up and I start a fight in proper engagement distance it feels like you have opening shot up for the three tap. Kill drops another brick, slide to proc slideshot plus disaster plan, rinse repeat. However, I never think a hand cannon should drop base 36 range. 😂
@HollowPoint503 Жыл бұрын
@@Helmsy_53Gaming the range is bad for sure, but that origin perks feels like it is custom tailored for that gun. I’m curious to see what DP actually translates to in meters added. Also, I didn’t bother doing the math, but DP is good for 4 shots of added range and flinch resist.
@swozer Жыл бұрын
The lack of unique/creative PvP rolls is really what disappointed me the most. I’ll fight through mid stats if it means I can do something cool/unique, like kindled orchid - still the only kill clip + rampage hand cannon. I was a little surprised you didn’t highlight the Disaster Plan intrinsic a little more. Would’ve been interested to see exactly how much range falloff it adds, because that feels like it could be its saving grace if they buff it a little. Unfortunately it’s almost worthless in elim-style game modes. I’ve been using my rapid hit + focused fury and RH + KC rolls, each with 54 range
@yamz_6530 Жыл бұрын
for me, the only acceptable roll I would use (and am still dumping ALL my deep engrams for) is hammer forged, ricochet, range mw, moving target or slideshot, and opening shot. and even then I’ll probably be putting myself at a disadvantage and asking myself “why the fuck am I not using my crafted austringer” lol
@axe2grind244 Жыл бұрын
Dire Promise retained all the benefits of a 150 (AA, handling) while still having high range and stability. It’s so much better than SR.
@GloverGaming3 Жыл бұрын
I'm not even a hand cannon user, but the fact that Bungie keeps re-releasing the same hand cannons with the same stats from before the conversion is embarrassing on their part. They should have someone looking out for those and making sure they're up to snuff
@namesjonas Жыл бұрын
this is the lightning McQueen hand cannon
@tracebailey3154 Жыл бұрын
I like to think I’m not coping, but slide focused fury makes spare have a permanent damage buff, which makes it the most forgiving 140 in the game. Cammy talked about finite impact or and how slideways focused fury was a mild breaker, and here is a better version of that hand cannon….
@thealldayspecial Жыл бұрын
A bit pointless to revive a lot of these Gambit Prime weapons when what made them unique or top tier pretty much has gotten outclassed by the progression of time and addition of new loot. File it under "don't burn a conventional good-god roll, but don't go nuts trying to chase one or expect the world" Funniest thing and it honestly gives more credit's due to Bungie's loot curation is how something like the world pool sniper Fugue is practically better than Sole Survivor. Lastly on the subject of old HC that had high aim assist, I'm reminded how the last time we had Swashbuckler+Demo on a HC was Season of Dawn's reboot of the stone cold classic Jack Queen King 3. I genuinely miss that combo as I feel it plays super nice for wombo combo solar hunter with YAS.
@Dripsss Жыл бұрын
What’s the pve roll?
@helamananderson3992 Жыл бұрын
I’m admittedly not great with hand cannons, but I got a really good roll so I tried it out and got eviscerated. Didn’t even make it a whole game before switching to austringer and immediately got a 10 streak
@Aurkus23 Жыл бұрын
Got Rapid Hit/KC for pvp and I like it a lot. I’m on console and I prefer stability and recoil control over range. I almost prefer it over my Rose with Rapid Hit/Explosive Payload. I also have Rapid Hit/Kinetic Tremors and it feels great in pve, I need to see if Lucky Pants affects the tremor’s damage.
@thenewseorarek9625 Жыл бұрын
I've said it before, and i'll say it again here: withold your judgement until next season people. Because it really feels like quite a few hcs now have been made in preparation for the rangefinder nerf next season, the two big ones being epochal and now spare rations
@GenesisDG Жыл бұрын
Laughs in my 52m blast furnace........ for now.
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