Are we shocked by this? People calling FA a cult is not a joke. This woman saying disparaging things about someone who decided to better themselves is disgusting.

if you don’t owe us health, then why do we owe you fatness? we don’t. if what someone else does triggers you this much, you’re very unhappy about the thing you’re clinging to so desperately.

The projection is wiiiiiiild. This woman views Angelyca losing weight as a personal attack. I can't imagine being so intensely fragile and insecure. What a miserable way to live.

„They left the community so I‘m gonna act like they died“ Uhm… yeah, that’s like textbook cult. Like, have fun beating the cult allegations while saying sh*t like this

I hate the phrases “in a smaller body” or “in a bigger body” like its not separate from you it’s literally your body

I wasn’t diet pop shaming!! I was just going to Circle K every morning and getting a huge ass polar pop of Diet Dr Pepper. Regular or diet, there are some healthier ways to start off my day 😂 I still drink diet pop though!! Thanks for making this video and being so kind! You were one of the content creators that helped me decide that I didn’t want to be involved with the FA community. Along with Sam at every size and Megan Anne! At first I was getting a lot of hate but luckily the algorithm showed my post to kind people and I’ve been met with nothing but support. Thank you to everyone in the common section of this video for being nice as well. I want nothing but the best for everyone!!! Take care ❤❤❤❤❤

It's funny how these activists go on tiktok saying one of them losing weight equals being dead to them, when these same activists go SILENT when one of them actually unalives, and then proceed to never mention them again.

Being ignored by a cultist isn’t actually a threat. If it’s more of a promise then it’s ha positive thing.

Misery loves company. It’s a cult!

The fact that they view her actively saving her own life as a punch in the face is wild. Why pretend she’s dead instead of actually grieving the FA activists who have died bc of their weight ☠️

It's still so baffling and frankly so sad how someone can make being fat their entire identity to the point where you're so triggered you'll literally attack someone online. Like why?? Don't you have anything else going for you?? Okay, you're fat, but aren't you a sister, a friend, a mother, a coworker, a daughter, anything else??😞😞

Just found your channel after a major weight loss of 85lbs over the last year. Mounjaro helped me to get my insulin resistance under control and got me to 185lbs from the 270lbs I was at my heaviest. I also got breast reduction surgery and I’m now working to strengthen my body again and move more! Your videos have been incredibly eye opening to see how deep I used to be in the FA space and how much I’ve changed since then. Thank you O2B!

This only show how deep down they REALLY want to loose weight they do !!.So triggering for them amd it almost leads to them being violent amd agressive

Angelyca is better than me. If someone made a "funeral" tiktok about me just because I left Fat Acceptance and was losing weight, I'd probably go have a word with them in person. Ya feel me 🥴🥴

I think she actually does want to lose weight because someone else weight loss couldn’t make her so angry.

Shunning former community members? Yeah, definitely not a cult.

Almost like it's a cult....

What's really wild about this is that if she had actually passed on from any number of issues related to or exacerbated by obesity, neither she nor anyone else in the FA community would acknowledge her, but the moment she deciedes to put herself/health first, now they can't wait to give their 2 cents and declare her dead. The irony being she's doing something to improve her quality and lenght of life.

Oh I 100% believe that at least half of the HAES people secretly would love to be thin or thinner

I used to smoke ciggies and I quit!! Ans now all the smoker's hate me.. 😒 😑 😔

I think they act this way because they are envious. It’s really sad and gross to say such horrible things.

Making small changes and doing the best I can. That’s awesome advice. Small things!

I hate how social media forces this extreme "sides" to everything. Like why can't it be both. Treat fat people with compassion and respect and give access to proper medical care. Give a generous assumption to them. Treat them with empathy. AND respect people's body autonomy even if that includes weight loss. Shame is never the answer including shaming someone for their weight OR someone leaving the FA space.

I like how you say that there are things that are in our control. We might not be able to control weight gain from medication, or disorders but we can control how we eat and exercise. I have both disorders and medication that make it hard for me to loose weight. I started to create changes and it was hard but now I am down to 205 from 255. Maybe it doesn't seem like a lot but it is for me. And I have kept it off since 2021. I would like to loose more weight but if I can't that's okay. Just because I can't loose more weight doesnt seem I should just give up and go back to unhealthy behaviours.

Crabs in a bucket. How dare you make a different choice?!

no one is obese because of genetics or any reason other than massive overeating over a prolonged period of time. genetics, metabolism, med side effects, hormones, pcos, etc might contribute to an extra 25 lbs-but only eating tons of food can make, and keep, one obese.

lmao i like the 'let's not diet soda shame' for real

can we not applaud people for taking control of their life??? like come on… this girl is completely out of touch with reality

I have watched Scientology docs where they treat ex members the exact same way. Wonder why that is… 🤔

"Misery Loves Company" so true in that community. Living in their victimhood is more comfortable for them and prevents them from having to accept any responsibility for themselves.

okay genuine question: i hear all the time that within HAES they claim that "it's impossible to lose weight", but ive also heard that they tote "ex-fats are the worst"... what are ex-fats to them then?? like, can you or can you not lose weight?? Do they think these people are inherently living in some unsustainable manner? like that seems like a very obvious contradiction in statements but ive never heard anyone directly address it

in case Angelyca sees this: you're awesome, and your video was very tasteful and helpful, thank you for sharing your experience and life journey, it's very relatable, i honestly feel very inspired since i'm an a weight loss/health journey too. you don't deserve the hate at all, they're just terrible people, and just like a cult, they will always bully, shame, demonize and try to hurt everyone who's leaving. you're amazing and did nothing wrong. i wish you the best in your journey, you've got this, and you deserve the best life you can live! 💖

She's a coward and blame shifter 🤷🏾‍♀️. She's mad about her self-induced lack of control. She needs help, and that's on her to get. These people are annoying 😑

When someone is jealous, they’ll say anything to bring down others who are doing what they wish they were doing but for whatever reasons (mostly laziness) are not doing. This girl is an inspiration and I’m happy for her. More Fat Acceptance people should be encouraged by her. Trying to tear her down is projecting their own self-hate onto her. She seems too strong to be affected by it.

they’re so envious

Love this girl🙏🏻 I was a stay at home mom for 2 years. I finally got back into the work place and I can already see myself slimming out after gaining like 40 pounds over that time. I’ve always been a bigger girl and I just want to love myself in every way so this is my next step 🥰

People get way too invested in other people’s personal life choices that don’t effect them in the slightest lol.

Can we rebrand the 'body positivity movement' as the 'body toxicity movement'?

She's attacking those wanting to leave FA to better themselves because it throws up a mirror to her face and she doesn't like what she sees. Instead of dealing with her own unhealthy issues with weight, she attacks others because they trigger that insecurity within herself. If she were truly ok with herself, she wouldn't care what others choose to do and be at peace.

Its not the weight; its the bullying, and the vile personality. This poor woman. I hope she dtays on course, despite the jealousy and delusion.

The public needs to start a campaign to finally end fat acceptance.

"Misery loves company" is an accurate adage, and that goes for food addicts who won't acknowledge their addiction. Leaving fat enablers to better yourself forces them to see their own failures or even lack of trying. The addiction defends and justifies itself like a demon.

Be fat if you want. Be thin if you want. Be whatever and whoever you're happy being. Just make sure you're healthy for YOUR future, golden rule, just be healthy and happy.

When someone leaves and loses weight, it puts the spotlight on everyone who stayed. "Look, they left and lost weight, why aren't you doing that too?" And it puts pressure on them and messes with their 'it's not possible' dogma

She didn't need to explain herself at all. Unreasonable people will never listen.

They bully those that lose weight because it goes against their motto that losing weight is impossible on top of jealousy/envy. It's very clear. You don't even have to be that much older to come to that conclusion. A child could see the jealousy a mile a way.

12:05 I was 'naturally' skinny my whole life and yet in lock down I got fat the exact same way, not moving, sitting on my couch, eating cookies, drinking beer. Funny how that works!

"i don't care what anyone does with their body..." unless it's losing weight apparently

What a snarky horrible person, the smile that they wear while berating Angelica is just unhinged

So many reasons to lose weight, health being number 1 but also reasons like wanting to ziplining, sky diving, wanting to keep up with your kids, wanting to live to see your grand kids

“Intake/outtake isn’t real” is flat earther behavior truly

That first video was fantastic. "This was my journey, this is what I learned, here's what I'm doing about it. Straight up, nothing inflammatory. The people who hate content like that belie their ostensible culture of acceptance. It's a lie.

As always it comes down to one single solitary thing: When you lose weight, those that need to lose are seeing what they SHOULD be doing and it causes backlash and insecurity. I have been on BOTH sides of this so it is facts! Kudos to everyone embarking on a healthy journey 👏👏👏

just 6 seconds in and i'm already disgusted, and yet they keep saying FA is not a cult, well guys... you're all proving that yes, it is in fact a CULT ✨hopefully more people will leave

1:26 that water looks delicious

Look I'm a fan of body positivity, however I'm not a fan of people getting mad when someone who was once fat begins to lose weight. There are people who are fat and are happy and some who aren't. It's their body, and they deserve to feel comfortable in it.

Waaaa waaa… I’m going to unsubscribe !!! If that’s such a huge big deal to you, get off social media. This isn’t an airport, you don’t have to announce your departure.

Bless her heart ❤️ she's awesome!!

I'm glad they brought up anti fat acceptance KZfaq videos. Because honestly, those videos & videos like this one saved my life. I used to be a disability studies academic and public health activist. I worked mostly in education outreach for juvenile hospital patients. But at the time, fat studies was just getting its start & it was mostly in disability studies... eventually fat studies At the start, every woman could relate to feeling "fat." But fat activists and scholars would challenge the privilege of "straight sized people." One woman told me that the dining chairs in my apartment weren't welcoming and violent. Fat people couldn't sit in them. Im still not sure why Another time, an older superior scholar wanted to talk about how size can "align you with whiteness." And how being a thin black person was way easier than being a bigger black person bc it was a version of black people that "white people could accept." Mind you, I was NOT thin. I'm just on the shorter side. Most people wouldn't call someone with a 26in waist "fat." I get that. But at 4'10, i still had a high BMI. But i couldn't talk about it And this tenured professor starts talking about my white boyfriend. He had literally slapped me across the face just hours before but there we were, talking about how certain bodies were treated better because they were smaller. And i wasn't in a place to explain that I wasn't smaller & I absolutely wasnt being treated better. After a while, everything just becomes this bubble and echo chamber. I still worked in disability studies and was around fat activists i considered friends. They were my friends. But then I started getting recommended anti fat acceptance videos. Again, I worked with disability and fat acceptance so from my perspective, it was the only thing that challenged the status quo. And I just realized that none of my friends cared about whether or not i was "fat." All that mattered was that i was smaller than them. They didn't really care ab😮out my white boyfriend being abusive either. As long as they could use us to prove some point about interracial relationships & "eurocentric beauty standards," it was fine. Health just didn't matter. They wern't even there for me when I broke up with my boyfriend. Not even a little bit. Leaving him meant leaving or challenging every paper, conference, and round table we'd had. And they were mad at me for disrupting that. This is a long comment and this was quite a few years ago. But anti fat acceptance was the first things that really shook the echo chamber I was in. And it made me realize i needed a new industry with better friends and coworkers

I'm proud of her. Let's continue to support her journey, her taking back her power above all else

As a bigger person trying to lose weight (with the help of medication GASP!), I have cut out sugar and added more protein and just those small changes have helped ! Just small changes help so much, do the meds help yea, but they are a tool NOT the solution. The fat acceptance community is almost as bad as the anti med people.

I’m not the healthiest eater, but I keep my portions small. I also like to walk around and swim when I get a chance. Seeing the FA movement makes me worry about my health and I have begun to cut sugar from my diet, or eat less when I am not working out or moving around. I hope this person gets to where they want to be, and finds happiness. I hope everyone does without tearing others apart.

They see fat creators losing weight as a threat to their world view.

It's really sad that it sounds like the first girl sounds like she's about to cry while defending herself.

Ridiculing someone for wanting to lose weight and better their health is equivalent to bashing someone for seeking help for their substance addiction or a cancer patient seeking treatment for their illness. All involve the person choosing to engage in actions that are beneficial to their health and overall life. Why get mad at someone for that? I can’t wrap my head around it.

That TikTok came up on my fyp when it had very little likes and I wanted to comment on it SO bad but she had comments restricted.

Considering someone dead when they leave your group is cult like behavior. If you have done this, you really need to stop and think if the group you are a part of is ok.

Of course. If it was possible to change that would imply some level of personal accountability or responsibility for the negative health effects.

I’m just glad people are leaving FA.

Why isn’t there an average positivity movement? Most of the people that are a part of the body positivity movement seem to be obese. I would rather see people (men and women) with average heights and weights at different sizes and heights and ages modeled so I can see some semblance of what I can expect to look like after or near when I am done with my weight loss.

You really have to have zero conviction in your choice if one person making a different personal choice is an affront to yours.

I definitely don’t wanna be apart of this anymore ✌🏾

Even if your body is less stressed, you can lose weight. I know I can feel.good mentally and physically and it shows in the way my clothes fit. It doesn't mean I was trying to lose weight. Projection anyone?

When I saw your other video I was reminded of this funeral lady, like they’re sick in the head for having that mindset. I also saw people talk about a creator named made by Alex I think, a fashion designer. She’s taking care of her body and doing what she feels she need to do because she wants to get pregnant and have it be healthy from start to finish. And people are hoping it never happens for her, just sick

Every time I see these types of videos I go and work out.

Frankly, being body positive enough to deny the existence and purpose of _calories_ is insulting to all of science. Any time I see people like that I just want to ask them what they think calories even are.

this is the problem that happens when ppl live in echo chambers, they continue their beliefs and get worse and worse, and attack anyone with irrational logic, meanwhile being rude and insulting while not taking responsibility for their own action. critical thinking is important as an adult. as well as empathy, and both are skills that we can work on.

Not only is it unhinged but it’s also really toxic. Body positivity to me is someone who is actively taking the steps in losing weight and taking the steps into living a healthier lifestyle.

To me everyone that became successful ..rich.or got connected with a hansome partner… Your dead to me… I must be very content with myself right?? DELUSIONAL on steroids !!

So happy that Angelyca got out. I love her fashion related content, but her fat acceptance tik toks always rubbed me the wrong way, especially when she called her and her partner "mixed weight couple"

fat acceptance kind of gives cult energy fr

@14:46 IT'S THIS! 1000000000000%

Be fat or else basically. Good for the original creator for deciding to do what makes her feel good and love herself a little more each day. It’s not always about fatness or losing weight or being some ridiculous label. Am I currently working on doing things that make me feel better and more comfortable in my own skin? Yep. A side effect just happens to be that I’ve dropped a few pounds.

If they truly believed that people can not lose weight, they should not be that butthurt when other people declare they are embarking on a weight loss journey, would they? If they truly believed it's impossible they would have the reaction of someone engaged in an excercise of futility, to which one perhaps at most sigh and raise a curious eyebrow. The wrath yhey display show that not only believe it is actually possible, but that they also are extremely selfcentred in feeling threathened by it.

Could you maybe do a video with a deeper explanation about when and where it went wrong with the movement? Or could someone in the comments maybe explain it to me? I’m not from the states and it all seems so weird. I thought that HEAS was about proper healthcare, for every size? Not the constant gaslighting by doctors. If you are losing weight without intention that they do blood work, if you have skin issues you get a referral to a dermatologist. And I thought that body positivity was about skin marks, stretch marks, freckles and bloating ect. Just be kind to a different body than the ones in magazines. I’ve seen so many videos lately and when I google I get the weirdest shit… Hope you can help. Many thanks

" youre dead to me " Better then really being dead like ull be in a few yrs !!

insane

Bro!

Quickest click

Its how she is wording it

It's definitely jealousy. If you think you can't lose weight then others from your community start losing weight jealousy seems like a reasonable feeling to have (obviously bullying otrhers isn't the appropriate response though). I don't believe anyone truly loves being obese. Sure people love eating junk food and not worrying about it, but that's not the same thing as loving being obese.

gaydoodlebear made their account private. I wonder why 🙃

#FATNOJOKEBRO

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Fat Acceptance doesn’t “make” people gain weight, just as following LGBTQ+ influencers can’t “make” a heterosexual person homosexual, queer, etc. She gained weight because of her lifestyle choices, not because she supported the body positive movement. I’ve *lost* weight since finding body positivity and Fat Acceptance, and I still consider myself an ally (and a HAES advocate).

For someone who's so passionate about being against weightloss, @gaydoodlebear sure made haste to private her tiktok after this.

Hurt people will hurt people. That doesn’t make it ok, but I feel like that’s why people bully others (including people they previously felt aligned with). I’m glad that this girl is making positive changes for herself. 🩷