OVERMALLED: CINCINNATI. Episode 2: 1971-1980
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Күн бұрынWho killed the mall? The answer may not be who you think.
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@timothystockman7533 11 ай бұрын
When I was in high school, the Eastgate Mall was just a sign on a fence along route 32 that read: "Future site of the Eastgate Mall". These days, I have seen Union Terminal every time I ride Amtrak, albeit after midnight when the building is otherwise empty.
@patrick39432 2 ай бұрын
I didn't move to Cincinnati until 1986. This was fascinating!
@fisitron7256 4 жыл бұрын
This video is amazing. I loved all the history, and even the look at Union Terminal.
@Caseytify Жыл бұрын
Mom started shopping for our clothes at Gold Circle when it opened. I bought several calculators & watches from Service Merchandise. Couldn't afford much else at the time. I was already out of high school when Markets International opened. Never was much of a foodie, so I rarely went.
@erikalillianfulton1673 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video! I grew up in Oxford where there aren't any malls and it was a treat anytime my parents would drive us to The Mall which was usually Northgate but if I was really lucky and my mom would drive a little further, we got to go to Tri County which had all the iconic 90s stores that everyone loved. I moved away in 2010 and am still in shock when I visit home and see the sad state of these malls nowadays. I love how you capture the glory in these places with such attention to detail in the design and explaining their history. The mall music and audio of old commercials is an awesome touch. Your production just keeps getting better! It's great watching a dead mall video created by a filmmaker who knows the locations well and appreciates them so much. I just love your channel!! Thanks for your hard work bringing us these awesome videos!
@UniCommProductions 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Erika! I have a lot of memories of going to the malls around town in their 80s and 90s heyday..,back when we thought they’d be around and film was expensive, so we didn’t think to take photos, and it’s something I am really interested in preserving because I worry malls will be gone by the time my own future kids are teenagers, or at least unrecognizable from their past.
@bowtieguy85 10 ай бұрын
The fountain at Crestview was unmatched. I threw many a coin until it back in the day. We used to go back to school shopping at mcalpins and if I was good we'd go to sweet tooth and I'd get a shake.
@UniCommProductions 10 ай бұрын
Every time I talk about memories of this mall with someone, they mention that candy store, and I sorely regret missing this place. It sounds awesome.
@MrButch-ls8vl 4 жыл бұрын
Union Terminal truly is an amazing work of architecture! Thank heavens it was saved ... if it was demolished it would have been a tragedy like the demolition of the original Pennsylvania Station in New York City. It has a aura of classic grandeur mixed with an Art Deco machine age vibe! BTW Kristin ... I love your animated maps ... it that Ron's brainchild???!!!
@UniCommProductions 4 жыл бұрын
We worked on the maps together (my next challenge is to really learn After Effects)! Wait until you see the interior, it is incredible. There are mosaic murals in the Rotunda, and when they tore down the original terminal back in 1975, they saved the murals there and they were split between the Cincinnati Convention Center and our airport.
@MrButch-ls8vl 4 жыл бұрын
@@UniCommProductions The chief architectural design consultant for Union Terminal was Paul Philippe Cret, born in France and graduated the Ecole des Beaux Arts ... but moved to Philadelphia and eventually became a professor of architecture at the University of Pennsylvania (where Officer Mark patrolled). Cret's 1861 Victorian home is a mere 3 blocks away from my own home here in West Philly. Most of Cret's works are here in Philly but there are fine examples of his work in Washington, DC and in Austin, TX as well.
@andytaylor5476 2 жыл бұрын
Retail is just brutal! I grew up in Pittsburgh and had no idea Cinninatti is so large-we didn't get out much. So great you still have Union Station, looks magnificent. I love traveling by train. Nice work!
@UniCommProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Population wise, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati are about the same size, but Pittsburgh had nearly double the number of malls! (Which surprised me; I would have assumed Pittsburgh was bigger)
@pilotgrrl1 4 жыл бұрын
Great content and awesome production!
@kimh659 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing, great photography and drone photograph. I’m thoroughly enjoying the history! Can’t wait for Part 3
@andysorensen1737 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, so that’s how the Florence water tower came about! My wife passed by on a road trip about a decade ago and definitely got a kick out of it.
@jennythedancer 2 жыл бұрын
Really love this series! I hope you do more!
@UniCommProductions 2 жыл бұрын
The plan is for a new season later this year. COVID has really messed up my production schedule.
@teresahardy4928 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for including Surrey Square. Norwood is where I grew up. I remember when there was a factory and lumber yard where it sits. Never really had any good stores. Was doomed from the start. Love your videos. Stay safe and see you again soon.
@UniCommProductions 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool! Thank you very much for watching!
@escandelev 3 жыл бұрын
I have enjoyed the overmalled series. This is my favorite episode so far!
@UniCommProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! You’ll have to let me know what you think of #3!
@escandelev 3 жыл бұрын
@@UniCommProductions I like number 3 second best! This is my favorite episode as Florence and EastGate Mall’s are the mall’s I go to the most and I used to go to the former Dillard’s at the old Crestview Hills Mall a lot as a kid!
@UniCommProductions 3 жыл бұрын
You know you’re right-a lot of Cincinnati’s greatest hits are in Ep 2-I never thought of it that way!
@ryanfrisby7389 3 жыл бұрын
@@escandelev oh, look who it is!
@daddidavid668 4 жыл бұрын
I LOVED THIS VID JUST LIKE THE OTHER ONE....SOME WONDERFUL WORK... like i mentioned before- i worked at eastgate years back, but also tri county mall, Kenwood mall.... AND TOYS R US.. i worked there from 1995-2005.... The stories from there lol
@UniCommProductions 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for watching! Making these videos is such a trip down memory lane for me. Us kids who grew up in the suburbs' life revolved around the mall.
@pocketsizeforyourtravelcon3325 4 жыл бұрын
Just watched the whole series - excellent work! I got excited when you talked about Union Terminal....my high school held my prom there!
@UniCommProductions 4 жыл бұрын
That sounds lovely--and I'd love to do a full video about just Union Terminal when things open back up completely. Thank you for watching!
@alexmsibert 3 жыл бұрын
I remember going to east gate mall as a kid with my mom a lot. I remember there was a one store where kids sat a bleacher and a bear mascot came out and talked about safety. And I remember this one restaurant that wasn’t in the food court. I think it was like a penn station, or it may have been one.
@UniCommProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Great Steak and Potato! It was a lot of very glossy black, pink, and, teal and would have basically been where the Cincinnati Bell store last was in there.
@catrinag.9262 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Ty so much for posting. You have the best editing ever. I am subscribed. 👍
@UniCommProductions 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Catrina what a sweet thing to say!
@pdxpinball 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video!You put a lot of work into your mall vids and it shows.
@UniCommProductions 4 жыл бұрын
This video took probably every bit of 25-30 hours of work to complete...but comments like this make the work worth it. Thank you very much!
@funkyfreshyt2824 3 жыл бұрын
You worked at THAT sears at Eastgate!? That's awesome. Do you remember the unique smell. That Sears always had that weird smell. Even up to it's unfortunate closure.
@UniCommProductions 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like I do. It almost smelled like onions and metal.
@funkyfreshyt2824 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. That's the one.
@youtubasoarus 4 жыл бұрын
A nice treat to round the evening. Love these :)
@berniebroering7438 4 жыл бұрын
Westwood mall also had its own competition that was there even longer up the hill... Western Hills Plaza. For someone living on the western side of Cincinnati, Northgate Mall, Westwood Mall had to compete with Western Hills Plaza. Memories! the Plaza still grows!
@kelly3014 4 жыл бұрын
Ohio in general is overmalled...
@jamesallen74 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see Ep 3 with Forest Fair Mall. It had an interesting history with the night clubs, the reno in 2004-ish that did well for like a month, and that thing in the middle of the food court, I don't even know what you call it. It had balls and chimes and things, and you would just watch it. Man I hope that wasn't destroyed, hopefully donated/bought and sitting somewhere still in use.
@UniCommProductions 4 жыл бұрын
The kinetic sculpture! I have yet to find any good photos or video of it. I know they tried to sell it at one point and there were no takers. Allegedly it’s in storage somewhere in the mall still. Forest Fair was a mess for the local market in general but damn if I don’t still hold a special place in my heart for it (and if you haven’t watched it yet we did a full video just on Forest Fair in July of last year)
@kyler4454 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely wonderful footage, narration, and production quality. It's rather striking how uniformly bland the overwhelming majority of strip malls and lifestyle centers look. Surrey Square's interior looked really cozy, shame it didn't stick around.
@teresahardy4928 4 жыл бұрын
It was cool. Like an old village. But never any good stores. Specialty shops, dentists, doctors and empty storefronts. Took my kids years ago for tree lighting and puppet show 1990. Sad - Norwood was my home and everyone had such hopes for the mall.
@chadgoodin8015 3 жыл бұрын
I have lived here in the neighborhood directly behind northgate mall. MANY MANY memories there and it sucks it is what it is now. And I was never aware there was a mall in the hall of justice!! I guess superman and batman needed a place to get new tights though
@sprkl5d 4 жыл бұрын
Great video!!!💗
@jeepguy220 3 жыл бұрын
great job!!
@iamiamarobot 2 жыл бұрын
Very well done! Both episodes!
@markstrouse3101 4 жыл бұрын
Great video again.
@QuietJ0Y 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@foxeni7174 4 жыл бұрын
Never heard of Surrey Square Mall but it looks like something Lima, Ohio called Village Square Mall. This series is really informative. You’re attention to detail is fantastic.
@UniCommProductions 4 жыл бұрын
It's really small--I remember driving past it in the Media Play days and not realizing there was an enclosed portion! Is Village Square Mall still standing? It sounds really interesting.
@foxeni7174 4 жыл бұрын
UniComm Productions The building is still there but I have no idea what it looks like on the inside anymore. Where there used to be a Hallmark is a harbor freight now. On the other side is a hair salon and prudential insurance. But the inside used to look like a little street just like Surrey Square. And there was a woman who had a shop and she sewed or altered wedding dresses, bridal party dresses, prom dresses, etc. That shop closed when she passed away.
@UniCommProductions 4 жыл бұрын
@@foxeni7174 It sounds really interesting, I'm going to need to investigate this!
@foxeni7174 4 жыл бұрын
UniComm Productions this is the address of the harbor freight. You can’t miss the door to the mall if it is still there. 2100 Harding Hwy Unit 21 Lima, OH 45804 United States
@anabarth9117 4 жыл бұрын
Loved the timelapse at Union Terminal. I had no idea that's what Surrey Square used to look like! How cool! Have you guys checked out The French Quarter/The Continent in Columbus - Worthington? You definitely should!
@UniCommProductions 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you--and I didn't either until I started working on this project. I had driven past it a million times and never went in. We have been to The Continent, actually! I went there in early 2019: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/puCojKeoy7vPZKc.html. It's a really interesting place!
@kidjayhawk 2 жыл бұрын
Eastgate Mall brown stone decor brings back memories. And the plastic indented round bubbles panels where abandoned stores sat in the 80s. Remember all those plastic oranges at the Orange Julius?
@UniCommProductions 2 жыл бұрын
OMG I had forgotten about them but now I remember them!!! All the restaurant spaces at Eastgate were so cute and unique. I remember the overly mirrored Great Steak too. Their veggie sandwiches got me through many Saturday shifts when I worked at various stores there in college!
@awoglyshipper1900 4 жыл бұрын
As it turns out, when everyone wants the cake, no one gets it! How surprising!
@WhittyPics 4 жыл бұрын
It has been years since I was in Florence Mall but I thought it was newer than it is. Many of these malls won't make it much longer
@UniCommProductions 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I agree with you...however if we would have just exercised some restraint (we have TWO examples of malls being built literally across the street from each other), we may not have this problem.
@timothystockman7533 2 жыл бұрын
Eastgate was a field with a sign on the fence when I was in high school.
@ThePodCastDojo 4 жыл бұрын
This is great! Do you think you would ever cover Cleveland? Also, how was working for Sears?~Justin
@UniCommProductions 4 жыл бұрын
I’m considering doing a second series for Overmalled and Pittsburgh, Cleveland, and Detroit are the front runners. Working at Sears was pretty fun. I worked in the paint department and it was more or less me, the old men who helped out from hardware and the bro’s who sold fitness equipment. Traffic got to be less and less but it was a fun place to work. I worked there in 2001-2002
@mst3kanita 4 жыл бұрын
Oh! HQ was a local chain for me, started in Virginia Beach, didn't know they made it to Ohio.
@BDBD16 4 жыл бұрын
ONLY 3!!!! Damnit...maybe I should join your patreon.
@UniCommProductions 4 жыл бұрын
Plenty of videos to come (Unicomm's normal dead mall fare) --but this series will be 3 episodes long to cover the history in one city. It's been a very labor intensive series to make, so while I'm not taking the possibility of more cities being covered in a similar way off the table, it will be a while!
@gravijiga 4 жыл бұрын
gravijiga I was just discussing the word 'new' with a friend not that long ago. Graphically it is represented with extreme optimism, with the little explotion and all kinds of other flashy effects. Malls of the future should focus on being sustainable parts of thier community. I'm working on it, don't worry
@UniCommProductions 4 жыл бұрын
THAT is definitely what we need!
@majikglustik9704 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for mauling me! Mall-ing me. I feel soooo mawled.
@baphijmm 4 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I totally forgot the Cassinelli Square Toys R Us was where I got my Game Boy Advance on launch day; I hadn't pre-ordered the system, and they were the only ones who still had any left. (And in the Arctic color, which is what I wanted!) I... VERY vaguely remember the closed-area mall that it used to be. It was never a place we went as a family, which I suppose speaks volumes about why it became a strip mall. Though, I feel like I did go glasses shopping in a space right next door that same day...
@UniCommProductions 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a Game Boy Micro at their going out of business sale.
@jamesallen74 4 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to understand where the "hallways" or main walkways of the indoor Cassenelli were compared to today. Is it the outdoor sidewalk the hugs the building?
@madid3000 2 жыл бұрын
Growing up less than 10 minutes from Northgate Mall was always fun but sad as I saw it start to go downhill over the years. Also- I was there during the 2019 incident. So many people were running around. I chose the worse day to look for shoes😭
@UniCommProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Was it actually kids fighting or were there just so many that it overwhelmed security? I remember there was video of the one at Kenwood and it was obviously two big groups of kids beating each other up but I don't remember there being any footage of what happened at Northgate?
@JeffreyJakucyk 3 жыл бұрын
Norwood demolished half of their downtown just to build a cartoon replica of a downtown inside Surrey Square Mall. Brilliant. Also, whee! @ 14:40
@sklanfer 4 жыл бұрын
hellllllllll yeah we want a train station tour!
@UniCommProductions 4 жыл бұрын
I've been wanting to cover that place since I started doing this...I just got a new, fancier camera (which is what I shot the timelapse of Union Terminal with at the end of the video), so I'm investigating what they require for me to get a filming permit so I can get the best footage possible.
@TodoDekuOTP Жыл бұрын
What differentiates between a small mall and a shopping arcade? The Camayo Arcade reminds me of many of these tiny malls you’ve shown us.
@UniCommProductions Жыл бұрын
Mostly the difference is the era in which it was built and where. Shopping arcades tend to be in urban environments, typically don’t have anchors (department stores), and usually pre-date the 50’s suburban shopping mall.
@ray10b73 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a video on the greene in dayton ohio.
@UniCommProductions 4 жыл бұрын
I'd have to go at a time when it wasn't completely jam-packed with people, which is a tall order!
@wendyokoopa7048 3 жыл бұрын
Is a group of people at a hobby lobby hobby lobbyists?
@UniCommProductions 3 жыл бұрын
If they only stay in the vestibule are they Lobby Hobbyists?
@RobSandage 3 жыл бұрын
There are a couple of malls where I grew up at that you might be interested in checking out. One is called the Northgate Mall in Decatur, Illinois. It had a Turnstyle inside of it that went out of business and then a Ventures moved into that location, Then in the late 90's when Ventures went out of business a store that was located down town in Decatur, moved because ADM the big factory bought out the space down town that the city of Decatur sold to the factory to build a new building and also the Global Training Center. K's Merchandise moved into the anchor store. There was in the Northgate mall at one time a Team Electronics store which moved out and later replaced by Hollywood Video store, there was a Jewel Osco's on the other end of the mall, a three screen General Cinemas which was bought out in the mid 90's by the GKC Movie Theaters moved into the location and was there until the late 90's. There were other things inside the place. Then down the street on 51 North there is the Hickory Point Mall in Forsyth, Illinois. I learned from my parents a couple of weeks ago that pretty much it will become a office building due to stores closing right and left in the mall.
@UniCommProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Both of those sound worth looking into, thank you for the tips! Always appreciated; some of the smaller malls I would have no way of finding out about without people like you
@RobSandage 3 жыл бұрын
@@UniCommProductions you are very welcome on the tips of both of those places. The movie theater inside the Northgate Mall was torn down in order for a Schnucks Grocery store could be built right across the street from a Krogers that has been there at Brettwood Village for a very long time since I believe the late 60's or early 70's.
@timothywalker4563 2 жыл бұрын
Train station mall then museum wow!
@samiamtheman7379 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, been there a few times. Pretty neat place, wish I went more.
@VincentSnelling 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great video, however.... Middletown is 513, should it be included? If so... Middletown had two malls build in the 70's. The City Center Mall in 74, and the Towne Mall in 77. I find the City Center Mall to be the most interesting... It was built over existing historic storefronts and literally encased two blocks of Middletown's Central Ave. The structure has since been removed, and the historic Store fronts revealed.
@UniCommProductions 4 жыл бұрын
I really debated whether to include Middletown's two malls from the 70s or not. They're further from the metro than Florence is and I wasn't sure whether people who live there considered themselves part of Cincinnati, part of Dayton, or their own thing. Ultimately, they were cut because of the distance from the city (however I'd love to go do an updated video on Towne because it was only the third video we ever did and it's a little rough around the edges.) City Center Mall is a really interesting story, when you combine the fact that Middletown isnt a very big place and they built two malls in pretty quick succession from each other...I'd love to find some photos of it.
@VincentSnelling 4 жыл бұрын
@@UniCommProductions www.pinterest.com/dwallace45044/city-centre-mart-mall/
@leet7489 Жыл бұрын
Hall of Justice vibes
@UniCommProductions Жыл бұрын
It was the inspiration for the Hall of Justice; Taft Broadcasting, who were running Hanna-Barbera at the time and produced the old Justice League cartoons, was headquartered in Cincinnati!
@leet7489 Жыл бұрын
@@UniCommProductions thats cool!
@alancranford3398 Жыл бұрын
I find it sad when dreams die and people lose their jobs. Could dead malls be repurposed as schools? Or as amusement parks?
@UniCommProductions Жыл бұрын
There are a lot of ideas out there: the most popular/successful is converting them to office space, however there are examples nationwide of them being converted to community colleges, churches, and even in some rare cases, housing. Part of the problem with the really old ones is because of asbestos it’s often cheaper to fully demolish them than to recondition the existing structure, and a lot of malls in the 80s and 90s were built pretty cheaply and can’t handle the conversion process. It really depends on what an area needs and what the existing structure can handle.
@TrustsLiars 3 жыл бұрын
4:57 is that a kid on a leash?
@UniCommProductions 3 жыл бұрын
He is, and that little boy is probably pushing 50 now and may have no idea he was once in the newspaper wearing one.
@escandelev 4 жыл бұрын
I miss the old Crestview Hills Mall!
@danielmarsala849 2 жыл бұрын
transit?
@thespacecowboy420 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think covid will end the indoor mall?
@UniCommProductions 3 жыл бұрын
I think it’s going to cull the weaker ones but I’m certain the best positioned properties will stick around as long as they adapt to peoples current habits
@purpleprose1315 2 жыл бұрын
If I was rich Id buy a mall and turn it into a reduce reuse recycle center.
@markjamesmeli2520 2 жыл бұрын
Good grief...IT'S ONLY ONE CITY. Why so much??
@osii6285 28 күн бұрын
WOMP WOMP
@Crobinso2508 4 жыл бұрын
The team changed the name to the Freedom, but they were the Y'alls at first. E: I was mistaken. Although, they did call them the Y'alls before they had an official name.
@UniCommProductions 4 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression they were originally called the Freedom and it was recently changed to the Y'alls? the headline I read was from January 2020.
@jamesallen74 4 жыл бұрын
@@UniCommProductions Kristin you are right. Crobinso2508 has it backwards. A simple google search Crob.
@Crobinso2508 4 жыл бұрын
@@UniCommProductions You're right! They wanted to call them the Y'alls, but they had an issue and went with the Freedom, and then now are the Y'alls. It was that bit about wanting to go with "Y'alls" that messed me up.
@Crobinso2508 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamesallen74 Didn't need a simple Google search. Just to shake the cobwebs of old age off.
@NickTick 4 жыл бұрын
Holy crap Northgates old logo looks a lot like a stylized swastika
@UniCommProductions 4 жыл бұрын
At the time the "four pointed star made out of initials" logo for malls was very popular. Salem Mall in Dayton was doing something similar with the letter S. It does look very offputting with the N's though.
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