Universal Audio Apollo ⚡️ Unison Preamp Comparison / Shootout

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Urban Sound Studio

Urban Sound Studio

Күн бұрын

Compare the Unison Preamps in this video with a shootout of all the different available options for your Universal Audio Apollo. For each example, only the gain knob was used to push the level of the preamp as hot as possible. There is no EQ, compression, low cuts, or anything else engaged.
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@AnthonyStudio
@AnthonyStudio 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I sincerely appreciate the amount of effort and time that went into making this. Thank you!
@ToddUrban
@ToddUrban 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that comment. I’m happy to hear it helped. Thanks for supporting the channel too. 🤓
@healeydavid3080
@healeydavid3080 3 ай бұрын
Amazing video. I’ve had all these preamps for years but never listened to the, back to back on multiple sources like this. Really eye opening. Thanks for doing this!!
@ToddUrban
@ToddUrban 3 ай бұрын
Thanks! 🙏🏻
@patrickanthony3572
@patrickanthony3572 Жыл бұрын
The V76 has such clean, yet warm and nostalgically familiar tone for me. This was my clear favourite.
@DanPerezSax
@DanPerezSax 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, Todd. Gonna watch this later. I never did really shoot these out. Tried the 1084 and decided I liked it so it's my goto.
@ToddUrban
@ToddUrban 2 жыл бұрын
The Neve pre I use is the same preamp as the 1084. So you’ll hear that side by side! Thanks for watching! 😊
@JonManness
@JonManness 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent shootout! I have most of these, but the V76 seemed to shine the most for a mostly clean tone.
@ToddUrban
@ToddUrban 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I was pleasantly surprised by the V76. Thank you for watching. 😊
@shayeasy
@shayeasy Жыл бұрын
the Helios has been my go-to for years, the sound is very up front and thick but still transparent and not wooly or muddy. with other preamps I am often cutting low mids but the Helios just sounds right down there. the 610A sounds really good in this demo, too - very lively and dimensional.
@MarcellJjr
@MarcellJjr 4 ай бұрын
just a video I was looking for
@ToddUrban
@ToddUrban 4 ай бұрын
Great. Glad it helped!
@AlanAstro
@AlanAstro Жыл бұрын
Amazing videos, more people need know you 🎶🤟😃
@ToddUrban
@ToddUrban Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped. Thanks for watching! 😃
@AlanAstro
@AlanAstro Жыл бұрын
@@ToddUrban Happy new year bro! your video of the 5060 Neve is dope 🔥👌
@ToddUrban
@ToddUrban Жыл бұрын
Thanks!!! 🙏🏻
@CarstenGoeke
@CarstenGoeke Жыл бұрын
Interesting comparison. Thanks for sharing. Would be nice to hear a comparison to the real outboard gear. Greetz ✌🏼
@ToddUrban
@ToddUrban Жыл бұрын
Funny enough, I plan to do something similar as soon as I get the time! Stay tuned!
@CarstenGoeke
@CarstenGoeke Жыл бұрын
@@ToddUrban Cool. Thanks ✌🏼
@joeydego2
@joeydego2 2 жыл бұрын
With the Nord, there was minuscule difference, more with the basses. The vocal mic had clear differences although there were volume differences.
@ToddUrban
@ToddUrban 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. I tried to level match as close as possible. But depending on speakers, the differences in frequencies from preamp to preamp create very different apparent levels. Yes….the mics are where you start to both hear and feel the differences more!
@joeydego2
@joeydego2 2 жыл бұрын
Helios was my favorite on the electric guitar.
@Particle67
@Particle67 2 жыл бұрын
This and the V76
@WIALLIFE
@WIALLIFE Жыл бұрын
API DAM NEAR WON EVERYTHING, THE MANLEY WAS PROBABLY 2ND 4 ME & I LIKED THE AVALON ON VOCALS. PLUS ALMOST ALL OF THEM SOUNDED PRETTY GREAT ON THE ELECTRIC GUITAR...MY LIL 2 CENTS..
@Tomtamo1
@Tomtamo1 2 жыл бұрын
I really like what the API pre did for the low end of the P/J bass.
@ToddUrban
@ToddUrban 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely. I have the 500 hardware API preamps and love them on my Snares and DI bass!
@Tomtamo1
@Tomtamo1 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToddUrbanThe UAD API Vision is my go-to on drums. Love it!!!
@frolics
@frolics Жыл бұрын
I preferred either the API, Manley, or Neve on each source. I’ll have to pick up the Manley pre next time it goes on sale and I’ll have a killer trio
@ToddUrban
@ToddUrban Жыл бұрын
The Manley surprised me! It’s great.
@organic10p
@organic10p 2 жыл бұрын
V76 for me and for all takes!! thx very much :)
@ToddUrban
@ToddUrban 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I was surprised how much I liked the punch and saturation.
@organic10p
@organic10p 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToddUrban did you test the same plugins in a unison and in a non unison slot?
@ToddUrban
@ToddUrban 2 жыл бұрын
Not for this video, but I have done that in the past. There is a difference, though, typically subtle. And of course, you also hear more of a difference if you push each preamp to distortion. But that is also where the hardware and UAD versions start to differ is the amount of clipping when pushed really hard. So typically, I keep unison preamps used with very conservative levels. (While I might push my analog ones really hard)
@jwalker99us
@jwalker99us 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Todd, Thanks for the video. While a great idea, other than the Accoustic Guitar, its hard to hear much difference at all…maybe its KZfaq audio being compressed? Perhaps post the stem files for each Pre Amp to play thru logic at higher res.
@ToddUrban
@ToddUrban 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The differences are subtle. But the same is true many times for the actual hardware. As I mention, sometimes the selection of the proper preamp is about the sum of all the parts. Make sure to listen to specific detail on great monitors. How does the transient get affected, is the low end tight or just big, is there an openness in the detail of the top end? These are the areas I hear the differences and they can be significant in terms of how the player performs when monitoring their own performs during the recording process. Thank you for the comment and watching.
@billesposito2112
@billesposito2112 Жыл бұрын
Hellos I think takes it overall.
@eyesonly4451
@eyesonly4451 7 ай бұрын
I'm a very newcomer to the sound recording world. But I do have years of experience in the photography world. They are much the same, as photography has the clean, linear response of digital, versus the not so linear response of analog film. Like audio clipping, photos "clip" when the dynamic range of the scene is beyond the dynamic range of the sensor/film. But film, unlike a digital sensor, approaches its saturation point in an s-curved fashion rather than a straight line. I feel it's much the same with audio circuits that have non-linear components (i.e. tubes) vs those that are highly linear in their responses. So any comparison in the middle of their respective response curves should be almost identical. It would seem to me that the differences reside at the edges, in the non-linear parts of their response curves or at gain levels where induced harmonics become more prominent.
@toddurban7025
@toddurban7025 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely and great analogy!
@livefrom32studio75
@livefrom32studio75 2 жыл бұрын
Hey I want a consult with you about using together the x16 of Universal Audio and the Orion Studio of Antelope that can't work?
@ToddUrban
@ToddUrban 2 жыл бұрын
Feel free to send me a message through my website. Let me know how you are currently connecting them. We can definitely setup a session and should be able to get everything running.
@bartes101
@bartes101 Жыл бұрын
sorry, but to me there's virtually no difference to any of these (apart from the Manley being over eager), at the "plain" input setting, all of these channels are trying to give the cleanest, most accurate representation of the source sounds.... Surely it would be far more interesting to do this comparison with the channel strips running "hot", doing the stuff they are best known for, be it saturation, hard eq etc. (No compression etc as it's a mostly pre amps, not full strips), but emphasising the character they can add when properly dialled in ? ..
@ToddUrban
@ToddUrban Жыл бұрын
You make a good point. My comparison here was to show realistic settings for most people (which is not to over distort the signal). Therefore, the differences are subtle. However, an interesting comparison is what happens when you start to clip these. That’s when the distortion characteristics start to change. However, with the exception of certain genres, most people do not clip them that hard. But that would be a great followup!
@billesposito2112
@billesposito2112 Жыл бұрын
610 B is very transparent on the snare. That Royer Ribbon sounds great. I use a Mojave Ma- 300 for most of my vocals . Works great on most everything.
@ToddUrban
@ToddUrban Жыл бұрын
The Mojave and Royer mics are great! I have some other videos just on Royer products.
@billesposito2112
@billesposito2112 Жыл бұрын
Helios and SSL on the 7B
@Particle67
@Particle67 2 жыл бұрын
For those exemples my pref go to Helios and V76
@ToddUrban
@ToddUrban 2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised at how much I liked the punch and fullness of the V76. Only had a chance to use the hardware once before.
@boxwes
@boxwes 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToddUrban Same here, I think it is time to buy that guy. Punch of the API and fullness of the 610-A.
@ToddUrban
@ToddUrban 2 жыл бұрын
@@boxwes I own the APIs, never actually used a real 610-A, but have the 6176s and 2-610 racks in my studio, which to my ears are closer to the Unison 610-Bs. Really nice, but more modern and less round than the sound of the Unison As.
@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios
@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios 8 ай бұрын
Would DBX163 go before the UAD interface?
@ToddUrban
@ToddUrban 8 ай бұрын
It doesn’t have to, but in my opinion, the compressor works best similar to a direct box. Put it before your interface and print the compression while recording.
@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios
@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios 8 ай бұрын
Thank you @@ToddUrban
@CarstenGoeke
@CarstenGoeke Жыл бұрын
The only noticeable difference for me is with the acoustic guitar. ✌🏼
@ToddUrban
@ToddUrban Жыл бұрын
The differences can be extremely subtle unless you push the preamps into distortion.
@josepe217
@josepe217 Жыл бұрын
the difference among them is barely noticeable to me =( ayuda
@ToddUrban
@ToddUrban Жыл бұрын
Yes! They can be very subtle until pushed into distortion. But they do have a different feel to them while recording.
@mikenoble5049
@mikenoble5049 10 ай бұрын
V76, API.
@MarcellJjr
@MarcellJjr 4 ай бұрын
6:37 what was the point of this if you were not going to turn them on LMFAO we're just hearing the drive signal still
@ToddUrban
@ToddUrban 4 ай бұрын
The pics used were just stock photos. The preamps were engaged for the examples, so you were hearing their processing. But I see how the photo might have appeared like the Neve was not engaged.
@yg.max__
@yg.max__ Жыл бұрын
I cant hear any difference
@ToddUrban
@ToddUrban Жыл бұрын
The differences can be very subtle until you push them into distortion. But transient and frequency response does have a slight difference if you listen closely. There is also a slight different feel while recording.
@manuelleivatalledo615
@manuelleivatalledo615 8 ай бұрын
Get your ears checked
@user-bo8ex4ji7n
@user-bo8ex4ji7n 5 ай бұрын
Takes years to be able to hear the difference... There isn't really a shortcut here. While you're learning just stick with the simple ones: 1073 for an airy grit with a little girth at the bottom end (great for rap, pop, rock, electronic). API for a very smooth sound (great for acoustic, soft electronic/trance) SSL for a punchy sound (I hear it's good for hip hop, country, etc but I don't have much experience with this one). Over time you will be able to hear the differences especially with slightly more drive into the preamp than is demonstrated in the video...
@ToddUrban
@ToddUrban 5 ай бұрын
@user-bo8ex4ji7n great point. And yes, more drive makes the differences more obvious. But that’s also where the plug-ins don’t hold up to their analog counterparts, hence why I was a little more conservative with the input gain.
@sgrant7922
@sgrant7922 Ай бұрын
Avalon & Manley 4 the win .
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