UNIVERSAL AUDIO DSP SATELLITE ACCELERATOR SYSTEM - What You Need To Know
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4 жыл бұрынThe Universal Audio DSP Satellite Plugin Accelerator System hardware units are equipped with processing cores to process your UAD plugins off-site of your computer, freeing up CPU load on your computer for other resources. This is a great idea, however, it is not without its challenges, as described in this video.
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@EdThorne 4 жыл бұрын
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@mackensonpetit8155 3 жыл бұрын
Please help? When you buy a uad satellite quad or octo does it come with a bundle of uad plugins or you will still have to buy uad plugins separately?
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
Mackenson Petit The Satellites don’t come with any plugins.
@mackensonpetit8155 3 жыл бұрын
@@EdThorne Thank you
@fullmoonfool 3 жыл бұрын
yea the whole reason for checking I got here
@fullmoonfool 3 жыл бұрын
however your good so your forgiven
@sitizenkanemusic 3 жыл бұрын
The emt-140 is the sexiest plate reverb for vocals, piano, and brass. Hell, you can even have a unique sound on drums. It blew me away. And I have both lexicons digital reverbs, which I hardly use anymore.
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
Yeh the EMT140 is one of my go to reverbs, alongside the AMS16 and Valhalla 👌
@outrage717 3 жыл бұрын
The reverb plugins - Capitol Chambers and Lexicon 480 - really sold me on getting an Apollo which was very expensive.
@coolgrande2856 3 жыл бұрын
Brooooo this is exactly what I was looking for I appreciate you!!! Cheers 👏🏽
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome. I actually have a more in depth DSP management video on the way soon. In the mean time there’s some DSP management tips at the end of this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gb9ii5yar7qblmw.html
@sgfdancecompany 4 жыл бұрын
Ed im a UAD heavy user with Twin Duo plus 2 OCTO core Satellites, you have many triks to use more then 5 plugins with each core. One of them is to use the legay editions (they have many of them) for example for the 1176, Fairchild and Pultecs and they are much more light. Also you can force de DSP into the configuration set up
@EdThorne 4 жыл бұрын
Sebastian Garcia Ferro This is good information, thanks Sebastian.
@crisnla1 3 жыл бұрын
interesting
@kungfuthug101 3 жыл бұрын
With digital emulations of the gear there is one huge advantage, absolutely colossal. Multiple instances of a unit. Buying 4 or 5 pieces of the same hardware is crazy but running 4 or 5 instances of an LA-2A as a plugin is easy if DSP allows
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
Colin Hauser Yep, very true
@diangara3298 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly 👍
@stevenneufeld3791 3 жыл бұрын
great video, thanks for posting it, Ed! :)
@ashesi4541 Жыл бұрын
Great video Thank you happy Holidays
@kapilmadan87 4 жыл бұрын
Wow bro ! Amazing ..
@AndreiBlanda 2 жыл бұрын
Super helpful. Thank you very much!
@EdThorne 2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome e
@tomfrazer5134 3 жыл бұрын
this is super helpful, thanks man
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome, thanks for watching.
@itsawo 3 ай бұрын
thx for the vid! trying to learn more of the equipment around a studio im interning at and the uad2 satellite was a mystery to me. might invest in one myself if i get more into uad plugins, but still weighing my options :-)
@genolexismusic983 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness! This video is everything to me, learning the basics helps to make a decision to upgrade. Thank you so much man
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad it helped. There are some DSP management tips at the end of this video to help you maximise your DSP : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gb9ii5yar7qblmw.html
@carlosjohnson9767 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Ed, I just bought a uad satellite tb3 octa, for my twin x quad. I daisy Chained it apollo-satellite-mac pro And when i‘ll Go in my project in fl And do a Send Return for the Capital Chambers It works with one, but when i want to do another Send with Chambers i get an error code -38 and some plugins Turn off. Do you Maybe know why this happens? I‘m really confused at the Moment, because I got the satellite to have wider Mixes. Thanks in advance
@JacksonTaylorandTheSinners 7 ай бұрын
I have the Apollo 8p quad and am having a hell of a time figuring it out. I got it in 2018, and said fk it after a few weeks. We just toured to much. We’re taking a lot more time off and I dug it back out today. I must be setting the plugins (all UDA) up wrong, because I’m using a bad ass Apple lap top won’t only logic on it. I’m looking at getting the external DSP and hiring someone in Denver to show me how to use it all. It’s just not intuitive for me. I’ve produced 18 of my records. I understand a real console. Running all these programs and setting thighs up virtually is a differ issue all together. Great video.
@disskero 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Bro, if I already have an apollo twin, do I have to reinstall the software when connecting a uad satellite? Or is it not necessary?
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
No, simply register the Satellite in your Apollo account on their website and the devices will talk to each and work right away. 🙂
@FanaticDrummer 3 жыл бұрын
Waves charges you every time you update systems. And since Apple is moving to the M1, you are forced yet again to update in a few year’s. And at $250, that’s insane for updating plugins you already paid in full for.
@George-nx8zu 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a little confused, do both the Apollo Twin and Satellite have to be plugged into the laptop separately in order for you to get all that DSP? So in total it takes up two ports? Or is it the case that the Satellite has a USB C port for connecting to the Apollo Twin and another USB C port for connecting the whole thing to the laptop?
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
With the Apollo Twin models and above, you daisy chain them: Apollo-Satellite-Computer. To use the a satellite with an Apollo Solo (TB3 version) on a Mac, you would need to plug them in separately because the TB3 version of the Solo is buss powered. The PC version (USB-C) is both buss powered and plug powered so I believe you can’t daisy chain them.
@shubhshinde4438 9 ай бұрын
do I need to buy a interface for running plugins on satellite or I can use it directly on the satellite ??
@qubaneli4623 Жыл бұрын
Is this standalone or do you need the UAD interface to run plugins with satellite?
@tonylancer7367 4 жыл бұрын
So, if I want to jump into the UAD world, I should get the UAD Quad? Also, you say the UAD plugins use the Apollo's DSP for faster processing, correct? This means when you load the UAD plugins (any really) in any DAW, they have zero latency?
@EdThorne 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Tony, thanks for the questions. In answer to your second question first, the UAD DSP processes UAD plugins (only), in any DAW, off your computer with zero latency, yes. Regarding the first question, I can get 6-8 plugins in use with my Twin, so stands to reason 12-16 with the quad. I’ve got another video on exactly this subject here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ftSTnqiB0sWqm3k.html
@GabrielXDrums 4 жыл бұрын
Get a quad. It’s magical.
@RusiruRupasinghe 2 жыл бұрын
Hey there Ed... Just subscribed to your channel. Really good content. I have a question. I just bought a Twin USB and i have the same issue.Not enough DSP.So if i get a UAD 2 Satellite Quad or Octo "USB version" my dsp issue will be solved right?
@wvideoyahoodk 4 жыл бұрын
4 pin xlr is the standard in 12v pro gear (broadcast) UAD interfaces and Luna software works incredible - but you to pay for it - like anything else.
@Ben-du8qd 2 жыл бұрын
It was a challenge finding the right cable for my PC and apolo solo as well.
@jordanhansell6439 4 жыл бұрын
SSL G bus compressor has sidechain input and mix knob :)
@EdThorne 4 жыл бұрын
Yes sir. Not the example I was thinking of but good shout👌
@lundsweden 8 ай бұрын
One thing to remember is desktop class CPUs are much faster than laptop processors. A desktop i7 is not the same as a laptop i7- its much faster. I built a fast desktop with 13th gen i7 CPU, ASROCK motherboard, 32GB RAM, 1GB Samsung SSD with 2 spare SSD slots. This runs Ableton and as many instruments and effects as I want, its a massive step up from my i7 laptop!
@KengWitLim 3 жыл бұрын
It is not clear to me whether the Satellite can be used with the Apollo to provide more cpus for TRACKING purposes with more plugins (e.g, recording guitar with many plugins) or for mixing. I'm more interested in the former. Would you have gotten the Satellite if you had bought the Apollo Quad? Thanks.
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, this is a great question. Satellites ONLY provide DSP for mixing purposes. Only on board Apollo DSP can be utilised for tracking. I think with the Quad I would have still run out of DSP. I have a full video coming on DSP management. Stay tuned 🙂
@KengWitLim 3 жыл бұрын
@@EdThorne Thanks for the response!
@Daniel-ff3nv 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, I have a silly question, hope you can clarify. I am thinking to get an Apollo solo for start recording guitar, I only need one input and that interface looks to be what I’m looking for. Would the satellite unit increment the Apollo solo processing power if required? For instance if I require to use more plugins in a future. I appreciate your input on this.
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Daniel, A Satellite would allow you to increase your mixing DSP, however, the only DSP available for tracking is the native DSP inside your Apollo device, your Solo. In terms of powering the Solo, because it is TB3 (only) bus-powered (2016 Macs onwards, unless you have the PC version), using a Satellite would require two Thunderbolt inputs. Power won't pass through the Satellite so you can't daisy-chain them. I'm not entirely sure if the Solo works if powered through a TB3 hub/expansion unit, in theory, it should. The Satellite will greatly improve the amount of DSP available for mixing.
@Daniel-ff3nv 3 жыл бұрын
@@EdThorne thanks a lot for you feedback. I will research a bit more then. The Apollo solo seemed to be ideal size/# of inputs, the other devices (twin, X4) are definitely overkill for what I’m looking for which is only record my electric guitar through the amplifier/OX line out.
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
@@Daniel-ff3nv The Apollo is a great interface. If it’s just for one guitar you’ll have enough DSP for tracking with amp sims. My favourite is the Chandler.
@TrueFallacy 3 жыл бұрын
Plugin Alliance SSL Channels have switchable EQ types, Pink to Orange for example.
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
A very good example! My UAD vs BX (Plugin Alliance) SSL 4000-E comparison video is out this week 🤘
@SoloNtuneOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
How do you connect apollo mkii with apollo satellite if for example you don't have the newer Mac air and have thunderbolt 2 only 1 port and no USB c ports
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
Thunderbolt 2-3 adaptors 👌
@SoloNtuneOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
@@EdThorne thank you I appreciate that
@skateborg 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Ed - Thanks for this review. I invested in the Apollo Twin MKII DUO Thunderbolt 2 to use with LUNA on my older Mac (TB2). I've only had it for a week and I've already gotten the “One or more UAD plug-ins are disabled because DSP resources were exceeded” errors in LUNA. So now I'm looking at getting a UAD-2 Satellite Thunderbolt 2 OCTO Core. How many plug-ins can run in LUNA with help from the Satelliite OCTO core while live tracking? For example while live tracking, guitar signal is split through a pedalboard to L & R outputs (or say a stereo Rode NT4 mic) direct into the two Apollo Twin line/mic inputs, and then running different plug-in chains on two channel strips in LUNA. How does the UAD-2 Satellite make the additional DSPs available to LUNA? Are those additional resources only available during mixing, or are they available during both live tracking and mixing?
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin, this is a very question. I’m going to forward this to my contact at UAD and get back to you because I’ve heard Satellites don’t contribute towards recording DSP and only help with mixing. When tracking, try disabling any and all plugins in your mix project. Even if idle they will use up your Apollo’s DSP. With an Octo I can get 35-40+ plugins on the go when mixing. I have a video coming out on this very soon where I will stress test my devices.
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
@KevinBarnard I've heard back from my contact at UAD who is super helpful. He made some good points to bear in mind when tracking/mixing. (NOTE: These are mostly his words): 1) Apollo DSP is used for the local inputs/recording DSP per interface and Satellites can only be used for mixing plug-in DSP on playback / non-record enabled tracks. 2) LUNA Extensions (Oxide, Studer, Ampex & Neve Console Summing) and Instruments all run natively on the Mac CPU and do not use any of the UAD-2 DSP at all - either from Apollo’s or Satellites. 3) Satellites cannot boost the power of Apollo inputs being processed because the local DSP is allocated to the physical I/O due to Unison being integrated with the analog front end. 4) Don't run Console and LUNA at the same time. Luna has console integrated into it so it acts as a self contained recording system. You can still set up monitoring chains using Busses and the ARM system to feed you Auxes. Luna monitoring works in a slightly different way to Console, which I will be explaining in a forthcoming How To video. 5) Adding a Satellite will let LUNA move the plug-ins on your playback tracks to the satellite, freeing up more Apollo DSP for the tracking/live input portion of your workflow. Luna does this automatically 'under the hood'. SO, in essence, yes the Satellite will greatly help your mixing stage, but will not contribute to your recording DSP. Disable console and set up your monitoring through LUNA, if you are recording into that. If you're using another DAW then obviously use Console. Also, as I previously mentioned it's worth disabling your Unison and Insert plugins in Console because even if the Console app is closed - whatever plugins you last used will still be acting as enabled on your Apollo. Some DSP management is required to get the most out of this system. Again, I have another video coming covering all this good stuff :-) I hope that helps. Kudos and thanks to Tom at UAD for the extensive info.
@skateborg 3 жыл бұрын
@@EdThorne Thanks for posting this info. Very helpful indeed!
@skateborg 3 жыл бұрын
Hi @@EdThorne - Now that I’ve had a chance to experience the limitations of the Apollo Twin MKII DUO, I’m looking at the Universal Audio Apollo X6 Thunderbolt 3 Audio Interface + UAD-2 Satellite QUAD Thunderbolt 3 DSP Accelerator. That will totally blow my hobby budget for this year, but it's a recording system that I can grow with for many years going forward.
@Glime7879 9 ай бұрын
@@EdThorne One of the most helpful responses that I've ever seen from someone on YT. Years later, this is still great info!!
@abdullahmalallah8795 3 жыл бұрын
hi bro , is it will make any latency in the apollo mic if you use it with the satellite?
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
Abdullah Malallah Hi Abdullah, good question. No latency is introduced with the addition of a Satellite. The Apollo software compensated for the extra device.
@FlorinMC 3 жыл бұрын
Do you connect your laptop to the UAD Satellite and from that to the UAD Twin duo?
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
Florin MC Yes: Twin - Satellite - Mac.
@FlorinMC 3 жыл бұрын
@@EdThorne Thank you
@mutinyz 4 жыл бұрын
Why didn’t you show how to connect them together
@EdThorne 4 жыл бұрын
It didn’t cross my mind, I’m sorry. You simply daisy chain them together though: Apollo - Satellite - Computer.
@tomasorsulik113 4 жыл бұрын
If i have an audient id14, and i would like to use uad plugins, i have to buy it this dsp card?
@EdThorne 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. UAD plugins only work on UAD hardware. There are plenty of alternatives though, such as Brainworx (Plugin Alliance) plugins (easily as good, if not better) that you can run on your computer.
@tomasorsulik113 4 жыл бұрын
@@EdThorne thank you for answer!
@DJURBANBG 3 жыл бұрын
I just need the plugings , if i buy the Satelite only can i run them , i have another interface for the sound ?
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. You won’t be able to monitor with any of the UAD plugins, and you won’t have Unison preamps obviously.
@DJURBANBG 3 жыл бұрын
@@EdThorne i dont need monitoring, just mixing tools . How about using the plugings without the interface or satelite ?? I have very powerful computer
@GSJSTP 3 жыл бұрын
@@DJURBANBG no way. You have to have the console to use the plugins. The dsp on the consoles are the one processing the plugins. From my experience for a multitrack recording, you will at least need one uad satellite (octocore is recommended!)
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
You can only use UAD plugins WITH a UAD device (either Apollo or Satellite). The processing is done ON the UAD device, you can’t use your computers CPU to run UAD plugins.
@producerboutique 3 жыл бұрын
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@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
BenSassi Ha. Nothing expensive 🤣
@producerboutique 3 жыл бұрын
@@EdThorne just about to buy uad do you recommend the twins or the x4 please?
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
BenSassi It depends how many inputs you need but I would suggest getting as many DSP core as possible. Or a satellite like I did, as you’ve seen in the video. I rarely run out now.
@producerboutique 3 жыл бұрын
@@EdThorne Thank you top man 👍
@themangilesproduction Жыл бұрын
Hi Ed, how do you connect your laptop to Apollo twin and UAD Satellite. Is it serially or each to the laptop's thunderbolt port. because I also plan to buy a satellite. Thanks
@EdThorne Жыл бұрын
Hi Risto, Daisy chain them. Apollo at the end. 👌
@themangilesproduction Жыл бұрын
@@EdThorne Thanks
@livredesd 4 жыл бұрын
Brother i have a question!! Please if you can answer me , if i purchase some plugins with my UAD satellite in my control panel , if i change of computer or mac , those plugins will be already there right?? Im really new with UAD world , blessings brother from Peru and hope you answer me 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
@EdThorne 4 жыл бұрын
livredesd You will need to install Console on your new computer and they will all be available once you’ve selected your satellite device, yes. 🙏
@remo.blllue 3 жыл бұрын
Can i buy only the sattelite for the plugins without buying the audio interface?
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but you will only be able to use the plugins for mixing, you won’t be able to take advantage of the Unison preamps, monitoring with UAD plugins with zero latency, or recording these FX to your audio as you record as you can with an Apollo interface.
@SW-jj1sw 3 жыл бұрын
I have an Apollo twin mkii duo, I can only use 1 UAD plugin in FL studio and if I try to ad another it says i can’t due to dsp usage. Is it supposed to be like that or is there a way I can fix it?
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
SW !! You should be able to use multiple UAD plugins at the same time with a Duo. For mixing, make sure you don’t have any other projects open or Unison preamps inserted on your Apollo. Best save a tracking preset and remove any plugins when mixing. Hope that helps
@SW-jj1sw 3 жыл бұрын
@@EdThorne ohhh yeah I have an Avalon on in the console I’ll try taking that off
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
SW !! I have a whole video on UAD DSP management coming soon 🙂
@SW-jj1sw 3 жыл бұрын
@@EdThorne thank you so much
@faiz88ish 3 жыл бұрын
If get UAD Apollo Twin X Quad, do i still need to get this Satellite ?
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
It’s likely you’ll still want a Satellite to maximise DSP processing for mixing larger projects. See how you go first though. There are some DSP management tips at the end of this video to help maximise what you already have 🙂 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gb9ii5yar7qblmw.html
@ConradMetz Жыл бұрын
I just made the same mistake...not enough DSP for my needs. Spoke with my guy at Sweetwater who says this will not effect latency. Can anyone confirm that?
@vishnudh1216 2 жыл бұрын
But don't you get the same plugins you get with the interface when you buy the satellite also? So what do I do with the second copy of these plugins!?
@EdThorne 2 жыл бұрын
UAD frequently change what plugins are supplied with what device, so it's best to keep an eye on their website. Unfortunately, as far as I know, duplicate purchased plugins are redundant. It's probably worth messaging UA though and seeing if they'd swap a couple for you. It's always worth asking!
@officialparrish 3 жыл бұрын
How many plugins can you run with your 10 sharc sap processor?
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Parrish. I can use 35-40 depending on which plugins I use and how DSP intensive they are. I have a video on UAD DSP management coming soon where I’ll go into this in a lot more detail.
@alanshewitt 4 жыл бұрын
Does the Satellite take up an extra port on the computer or does it daisychain somehow with the Apollo Twin. TIA.
@EdThorne 4 жыл бұрын
Alan Hewitt Hi Alan, You can daisy chain them. Just make sure both unit have the same connections (USB-C or Thunderbolt 2).
@alanshewitt 4 жыл бұрын
Ed Thorne awesome. Thanks for the response. My sales rep at Sweetwater (US) didn’t know. I replaced my previous Twin Duo (Mk1) with the newest Twin X, also a duo, thinking the duo served me fine prior. But I also added 8 ch of Audient via ADAT to track drums and quickly discovered the limits of the Duo. Looks like I have a satellite in my future.
@EdThorne 4 жыл бұрын
Alan Hewitt Sound good, Alan 😀
@acidcube6967 3 жыл бұрын
🌟✨🤛 Does this UAD Oct Core work in LogicX On new M Chip Macs? Cheers 〽️🕶
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
The Octo Core functions with your Apollo, and therefore with Logic, yes. It doesn’t work IN Logic, neither does it use any computer CPU, it is completely independent, therefore it doesn’t matter what type of operating system you use.
@bdunn315 4 жыл бұрын
Always but the largest interface w most sharc chips because the satellite does not expand your front end dsp, only during mixing.
@JohnnyMacaw Жыл бұрын
So I have an Apollo twin X Duo and I ran out of DSP trying to mix. Should I get a satellite as you did or just resell my Apollo twin x and buy a quad core ?
@EdThorne Жыл бұрын
Look into the Native bundles. The plugins are identical to the DSP versions (they completely null) and work on your CPU power. I’ve never regretted buying my Octo satellite though because I’ve never run out of DSP since but Native is possibly the cheaper way forward.
@JohnnyMacaw Жыл бұрын
@@EdThorne thanks for the reply. Had no idea they gone native now. That’s a huge plus
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@Felon-id9hb 3 жыл бұрын
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@MrFattarot 3 жыл бұрын
Ok i'm a bit confused. Are you saying that you can't use your computer's processing power to run UAD plugins? they can only run on the processor in the interface?
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
Jason Wright Hi Jason. Yes, exactly that.
@cybernitemusic 3 жыл бұрын
Think of UAD plugins as things which connect to hardware to work. Instead of buying an FX unit, for example, for $2000 that has its own DSP in it and programming, instead with UAD that DSP is interchangeable based on which plugin you select. It’s kind of brilliant really because you’re getting the “analogue power and sound” of DSP. In essence you get more stuff for cheaper plus it takes the load off your computer. Awesome? I’d say yes.
@harshalshinde5473 3 жыл бұрын
What plugin do we get with apollo??
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
Harshal Shinde It’s usually the UA 610 preamps, LA2A & 1176 compressors, PulTec EQs, a bass amp sim and guitar amp sim. www.uaudio.com/audio-interfaces/apollo-twin-mkii.html
@JoelBouchillon 4 жыл бұрын
@ 5:50. Sorry, the UAD DSP accelerator does not give you “unlimited [plugin] resource”. I have both the Apollo x8p and quad accelerator and typically run out of UA power quite quickly. Though, using Protools, I’ll “Freeze” tracks to free up DSP in order to use more UA plugins.
@EdThorne 4 жыл бұрын
You’re right it doesn’t, but as you saw me opening the box in the video, I hadn’t realised this at that point 🤣🤦🏼♂️ I have a follow series to this video exploring more of the Apollo/UAD features and I’ll go into the DSP/Satellite resource subject much further.
@shkedov.b 4 жыл бұрын
lmao best unboxing flow everrr
@EdThorne 4 жыл бұрын
That was one of my early videos... not my best but you get the point 🤣💪
@lilchile123 3 жыл бұрын
i wonder if there’s a technology out there that would do this for any plugin
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
Not that I’m aware of. I know Waves do Servers that will run their plugins independently of your computer.
@saltypancreas5866 3 жыл бұрын
Are there any satelight gear for pc (usb 3,0)
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
I believe the thunderbolt 3(USB-C) work with PC but best asking UA directly.
@henryblaeserII 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Ed! What model of studio desk do you have?
@EdThorne 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Henry. I have the Gear4Music (UK) 3 tier desk: amzn.to/3ijk4uP
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Ed, did you buy the Quad or the Octo satellite? I've got the exact same issue with an Apollo Twin Duo, and I am thinking of buying a quad, but fear I'd end up soon in the same situation with DSP limitations. Presuming you've got 10 cores total now, and either way, how's your experience after a few months, happy or frustrated? Thanks!
@EdThorne 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Paolo. I bought the Octo. I can use 35-40 plugins now. I prioritise the plugins for lead vocals, lead instruments and busses, then print audio if I run out of DSP, which rare now. 🙂
4 жыл бұрын
@@EdThorne Thank you mate! Octo sounds like the only option, but I am still in two minds as I've discovered it won't affect the number of plugins I can use in the console, just those in the DAW for mixing, is that right?
@EdThorne 4 жыл бұрын
Paolo Mulè Yes, I believe that is correct. The Twin should handle 6-8 plugins on your console/unison channel strips, which should be enough?
4 жыл бұрын
@@EdThorne Cheers
@BrysonPrice 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to load the UAD plug ins into your computer Cpu instead of processing through the Apollo?
@jamesmckaymusic 4 жыл бұрын
The plugins only work in conjunction with a uad interface or satelite. If you remove the hardware, the plugins just won't work in your DAW inserts
@BrysonPrice 4 жыл бұрын
james mckay that’s what I thought 😊
@EdThorne 4 жыл бұрын
What James said ⬆️ 😀
@francysvarona3567 4 жыл бұрын
Yes if there is Its called plugin alliance if you the have the plug in your looking for they will give you a native version of the plugin that runs on your system cpu the plug ins are built with the same code.
@BrysonPrice 4 жыл бұрын
Francys Varona but you have to purchase it though right? So then you basically have to buy the plug in twice
@creatiw 3 жыл бұрын
So when you add this, does it give you a total of 6 DSP cores you can utilise at the same time?
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
The Satellites give you 4 or, as I’d recommend, 8 dsp cores for plugin processing when mixing. Only your Apollo DSP can be used whilst tracking/monitoring.
@creatiw 3 жыл бұрын
@@EdThorne thanks for the quick reply. I have a Twin DUO so a QUAD Satellite would give me 6 dip cores when mixing I guess.
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
@@creatiw Yes, precisely. :-)
@sanjayaajaye6970 2 жыл бұрын
How many plugins did you end up being able to run after you hooked up the DSP Satellite, was it unlimited?
@EdThorne 2 жыл бұрын
It's definitely not unlimited but I'm up to about 45 with the Satellite, give or take.
@aryaaramnejad698 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for this video I have a usb3 apollo twin, its okay that I buy a Thunderbolt? Does it not matter that they have a different port?
@EdThorne 2 жыл бұрын
You will need the Apple adaptor cable but it will still work, yes.
@REEWIL 3 жыл бұрын
so the difference between QUAD (4) and OCTO (8) is the processors so you can run more mixes / bigger mix huh ?
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, exactly.
@billesposito2112 2 жыл бұрын
Please tell me that works with the Thunderbolt 3 SOLO!!! I got shit for DSP . I can't use plugins like the VOX BOX or 1073 . That's why I bought the interface and switched over and bought a MAC at the same time so needless to say I'm disappointed .
@jamerv777smerf 4 жыл бұрын
I'm curious Ed. I'm abbot to be using the Apollo solo soon. I'm just curious if the single core isn't enough processing power for multiple plug ins is this thing like a booster that can connect to the interface? Or should I be fine since some of the plug ins are Legacy versions? I'm trying to see what exactly tis accelerator thing is
@EdThorne 4 жыл бұрын
JaMerv The single core will enable you to use approximately 5-8 legacy plugins. Which is plenty for recording/monitoring. Then when mixing, disable the plugins you have used to record/monitor in Console, then you will have another 5-8 to mix with. If you leave the plugins in Console armed, they will use up the DSP, even if not being used. I’ll put this in the DSP video 🙂 You can always add a Satellite as a stand-alone additional plugin processor for mixing. You won’t be able to connect this to the Solo for additional recording power though. Does that help?
@jamerv777smerf 4 жыл бұрын
@@EdThorne yes it does aaahhh🗣thank you man🙌🙏looking forward to the vid so I can make sure I'm doing it right my Apollo should be here today so I'll just set it up and wait for your vid explaining those things about all this
@EdThorne 4 жыл бұрын
JaMerv Happy to help. Be sure to let me know if you have any questions. Post them on here and I should see it 🙂
@jamerv777smerf 3 жыл бұрын
@@EdThorne so far so good I'm just looking forward to your video showcasing this tip/trick so I can apply it in my DAW and console mixer lol. I'm just now getting it setup completely I'm just trying to learn the ins and out of console as well as getting the most out of the single dsp while recording/monitoring and undoing those and applying the plug ins later when mixing to save on dsp. I'm having trouble with that🙌🙏thanks Ed
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
JaMerv I should have that video by the end of this week coming. In the mean time maybe save two Console templates; one for recording and one for mixing (with no plugins on the channel strips)
@kai6424 Жыл бұрын
Can you make a video on how to set it up and intergrade it with your sound card
@EdThorne Жыл бұрын
Good idea. I’ll put it on the list 🙂
@bdunn315 4 жыл бұрын
A few? Lots. Mix knob is most common addition
@mariosmith3301 3 жыл бұрын
Will it detect your active plugins or do you have to activate plugs thru site
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
Mario Smith You have to register your device on the UA website and it will all sync up automatically. Your plugins, presumably, would already be activated through your Apollo device.
@mariosmith3301 3 жыл бұрын
@@EdThorne ok.. so since my Apollo is already registered will it detect them is what I'm thinking about.. will I still have to go on uad site anyway...sorry if my understanding isn't up to par..
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
Mario Smith No need to apologise, I’m happy to help 🙂 So the need to register the Satellite is to link it to your account so you can run the plugins on the satellite even if you don’t have your Apollo connected. Once registered they will be saved onto your satellite. The units talk to each other as well and automatically distribute the processing power of both connected.
@lamasteve6905 Жыл бұрын
UAD has the sound, Ed said it and Ed is right !
@lamasteve6905 Жыл бұрын
Try some of the older UA plugin's for lighter DSP usage !
@BreakingtheSound 4 жыл бұрын
Hey mate how do you connect Apollo Twin with the satellite ? Cheers
@EdThorne 4 жыл бұрын
GHESs Hi. Mine requires a thunderbolt to thunderbolt. The new ones are USB-C (probably to USB-C)
@BreakingtheSound 4 жыл бұрын
@@EdThorne thanks for reply. So I have a Apollo Twin.x and the satellite 2 tb3 so my question is if I ca go from the Apollo Twin x to the satellite and from satellite to MacBook ? thank you
@EdThorne 4 жыл бұрын
Mine are daisy chained but I will check if you can connect them independently. I’ve read on forums you can just connect a satellite and run UAD plugins if you don’t have an Apollo so it stands to reason you can connect them separately with different cables. I’ll get back to you.
@EdThorne 4 жыл бұрын
I have check and yes you can run them independently with different cables. I run mine in line to save on inputs. 👌
@ellescafe4716 3 жыл бұрын
do you need to connect to the Apollo amp or directly to the computer???????????
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
You can connect them separately, or it’s best to daisy chain them (comp-satellite-Apollo)
@ellescafe4716 3 жыл бұрын
@@EdThorne I should connect my Apollo solo into my satellite and then, plus the satellite into the computer?? thank you so much for your reply.
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
@@ellescafe4716 Yes, if the satellite is the thunderbolt 3 version. If it’s the tb2 version it won’t power the Solo so they will need to be plugged in separately.
@geotungz4050 Жыл бұрын
almost all of uad's newer plugins have more features. one example, the avalon 737 strip has a 4x attack option on the compressor.
@garrettprosser7336 Жыл бұрын
Can you daisy chain this with a volt 176?
@EdThorne Жыл бұрын
No. The Volt doesn’t have DSP so can’t communicate with the Satellite like the Apollos can.
@guidosc3470 4 жыл бұрын
I can get many of the UA plugins for a fraction of the price at Plugin Alliance directly. For example the ssl channel strip I just bought for 29,00€ .. xD .. same for the Shadowhills and Digital v3 EQ for 49$. Btw Hardware Sounds better and is more stable as an investment when bought used
@francysvarona3567 4 жыл бұрын
yes plugin alliance is way better and your better off buying a soundgrid processor and running thousands of plugins including waves off of that unit.
@W4TSKY 4 жыл бұрын
UAD plugins are more expensive, but they put them on sale all the time. Find a plugin you like and wait 2-4 weeks and it'll be on sale. I got the 1176 compressors for $80 and the SSL channel strip for $100 (both are $300 each).
@GabrielXDrums 4 жыл бұрын
Saucy
@W4TSKY 4 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Gonzalez and they usually give you a $25 coupon every time you buy a plug-in. UAD got the sauce for sure bruh
@bandschos 2 жыл бұрын
hi ED, works with LUNA....and make a vid. i'm curious BW S
@zebrahead89 4 жыл бұрын
So am I getting this straight? If I buy this and use it with my laptop will I get much more CPU on Ableton? Right now I'm even having hard time playing chords on plugins like Repro 5. I have 1st gen Scarlett 2i2 for interface btw. Edit: i5 7200U as cpu and your usual 8gb or ram.
@EdThorne 4 жыл бұрын
If you use UAD EQ, Compressor, delay and reverb plugins, for example, instead of native Ableton plugins, yes it will save CPU load. The Apollo only processes UAD plugs though, it won’t help out with the Repro 5 workload.
@John_Kealiinohomoku 4 жыл бұрын
All the Apollo does is offload a computers CPU usage from UAD plugins to the external units (ie. Twin or Satellites) It allows you to run their high end plugins. I have a twin and love it, I pair it with a OctoPre to expand the amount of Mic Ins I have
@jKHAHN215PA Жыл бұрын
This was just an unboxing.. how does the satellite work if it doesn’t use dsp? After the uad meter reaches 100% when does the satellite kick if it’s not using dsp ?
@EdThorne Жыл бұрын
I’m confused. What’s made you think it’s the Satellite DSP core doesn’t use DSP?
@jKHAHN215PA Жыл бұрын
@@EdThorne ..I have an Apollo twin daisy chained to my Apollo x6 into my MacBook Pro.. now I have a uad - 2 satellite (I was looking at your tutorial to see how it connected. The satellite is registered and plugged directly into the MacBook via usb-c should I have another usb-c daisy chained to the Apollo x6? Because I wasn’t informed properly by the sales rep who recommended the satellite (which was a great idea for more mixing dsp) I was looking for clarity on your channel to continue just a little further
@EdThorne Жыл бұрын
@@jKHAHN215PA Link the Satellite in-line with the Apollos. It doesn’t matter in which order except the Twin must go last. So: Twin - Satellite - X6 - Mac 👌 OR: Twin - X6 - Satellite - Mac🙂 I should make a video about this, you’re right. It’s on the list.
@jKHAHN215PA Жыл бұрын
@@EdThorne much appreciated ..thank you!!
@jKHAHN215PA Жыл бұрын
@@EdThorne it would nice too if someone (like unto myself) who has the UAD Ultimate 11 bundle ..explain where the hell are the 5 instrument plug-ins 🤦🏾♂️b/c I can’t find them. Also the UADx (that comes with the satellite; what is that UADx b/c I have those plug-ins already with my prior bundles
@shubhshinde4438 3 жыл бұрын
Does satellite have Luna
@borisdancy9781 5 ай бұрын
The Fairchild 670 UAD has more features than the hardware.
@walker4564 4 жыл бұрын
So how many plugins can you run now?
@EdThorne 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Ryan, about 35-40. So I still have to be a little selective where I use them and make the most of bussing and prioritising lead vocals etc.
@beatmakerarmetsao 4 жыл бұрын
@@EdThorne 40 only .. wow i dont understand like you i buy the twin , then i buy vst now the twin can support all plugins because i have to be selective like you , then you buy the satellite and after that you cant mix like you want too ... wtf uad ?
@costinvaly1 4 жыл бұрын
@@beatmakerarmetsao 40 is low for you? Do you mix UAD exclusively? I've never met ONE engineer to date to mix EXCLUSIVELY with just UAD plugs. 40 UAD plugs that's an insane amount if you take in consideration the fact that your CPU has ZERO impact. What does that translate into? Well, if your CPU allows you to load up to around 90 plugins (depending on the CPU and buffer settings)natively, then add 40 UAD DSP (great quality) plugins, is the average of 130 plugins that small of a number for you? LOL You really don't seem to understand the advantage of DSP power added to a computer. Put it this way, those big recording studios, do they ever complain for having less than 30 hardware units in their studios? Each UAD plug is very close to the hardware unit and officially endorsed with the companies who made the original hardware, it's like you get those hardware units inside your computer and the number 40 is really that low for you giving the quality of them and also the advantage of mixing it with the native plugins that can run on your CPU?
@GabrielXDrums 4 жыл бұрын
costinvaly1 it’s so sick having those hardware units on hand in plugin form, tbh it’s magical whenever it turns on and you can really hear how good it works.
@beatmakerarmetsao 4 жыл бұрын
@@costinvaly1 hello again , finally i buy the octo satellite , and this is the best for me i have an horse computer, so :)
@kvri-beats 4 жыл бұрын
Can i run uad plugins without r Them sound card ?
@EdThorne 4 жыл бұрын
You can run UAD plugins without the interface if you have the satellite. You need one or the other basically.
@traviscraven4934 4 жыл бұрын
Compatible with Arrow?
@EdThorne 4 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry, I can’t tell you for sure, you’d have to check with UAD.
@traviscraven4934 4 жыл бұрын
Ed Thorne thanks, I actually just found this at Sweetwater.com: *Note: The Universal Audio UAD-2 Satellite Thunderbolt 3 can daisy-chain and provide bus-power for a Universal Audio Arrow interface via one of its Thunderbolt 3 ports.
@2moloco 3 жыл бұрын
Auto gain is one of them
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! I’ve used a plugin with auto gain yet, I want to try it!
@bikesandbeats4693 2 жыл бұрын
Are you experiencing -38 errors with your UAD Satellite?
@EdThorne 2 жыл бұрын
Probably needs a software update to remain compatible with newer iOSs
@BFHPET 2 жыл бұрын
how much dsp can the dsp satellite hande it gotta hande much at that price
@EdThorne 2 жыл бұрын
I get approx another 40 plugins out of it for mixing.
@BFHPET 2 жыл бұрын
@@EdThorne is that the quad?
@EdThorne 2 жыл бұрын
@@BFHPET Octo
@BFHPET 2 жыл бұрын
@@EdThorne how about the quad cause they are very expensive units
@EdThorne 2 жыл бұрын
@@BFHPET I’d assume half as much 🙂
@briancase6180 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, my Apollo Solo also didn't come with a thunderbolt cable. Grrr.
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
Annoyingly none of the UA products come with thunderbolt cables.
@VIC-20_Synthwave 4 жыл бұрын
Now you have 6 DSP cores instead of 4 if you would have bought the Quad.
@msvc23 3 жыл бұрын
5:42 presets
@mikejezo 3 жыл бұрын
Someone should sue them for defamation and misleading customers, if it's written Thunderbolt you should see a thunderbolt cable. RIP off. That's why I'm so Glad that the new M1 are here. This means by all of these, just like Focusrite liquid simulation( which were the same shark Dsp, ) your day are numbered.
@ArnoldVeeman 3 жыл бұрын
7:00 because most people in Europe (like me) use "normal" plugs ;-)
@Ein-Stuck 3 жыл бұрын
Pultec on every channel
@samuelrivas3437 4 жыл бұрын
Jake Johnson?
@Exitof99 Жыл бұрын
"Sound card" is not the same as "audio interface," which is what the Apollo and Scarlets are.
@EdThorne Жыл бұрын
Technically an audio interface is an external sound card😉
@alanshewitt 4 жыл бұрын
Recall. Software: 1, Hardware: 0
@MappingSubber 3 жыл бұрын
Literally having same exact issue. So now I am looking to purchase the satelite I wish you showed how you connected it once you got set up.
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
You won't regret buying the satellite. To set it up you need to plug your Apollo into your Satellite, then your Satellite into your computer. If you have a rack-mounted Apollo (X6/X8/X8p), this order does not matter. Be sure to check your device's thunderbolt 2/3 compatibility before ordering cables and adaptors.
@MappingSubber 3 жыл бұрын
Ok. Yes I seen another video where they plugged it up. I have the tb2 to tb3 adapter already just will need a tb3 plug. Now debating on getting a octo custom while the sale is still ongoing. Lol. I do only vocal recordings no live instruments. The quad might be enough bringing me to 6 cores total.
@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын
@@MappingSubber Get AS MANY DSP cores as you can. Trust me, your mixes will expand at some point 🙂
@MappingSubber 3 жыл бұрын
Ok. Octo it is!!! Ordering today!
@MappingSubber 3 жыл бұрын
Got the custom octo. Now debating what 3 plugins I want. Lol. Thinking Manley box box, 1176 c/l and maybe a channel strip.
@future_Victoryofficial Жыл бұрын
Your a QUAD or Octocore?
@EdThorne Жыл бұрын
Octo
@future_Victoryofficial Жыл бұрын
@@EdThorne thank you Bro
@CoburnLarsen Жыл бұрын
You didn’t even plug it in and show us???
@EdThorne Жыл бұрын
Lol. This was like my first ever video, I didn’t know what I was doing 🤣
@jakomostyn7123 2 жыл бұрын
jack sparrow
@EdThorne 2 жыл бұрын
Captain to you, sir 😜
@MiletobeatsProduction 4 жыл бұрын
The Apollo twin you have is thunderbolt 2?
@EdThorne 4 жыл бұрын
Well spotted, yes the model I own is the thunderbolt (not the X, which annoyingly came out a month after I bought mine 🤦🏼♂️). I’ve heard the conversion is another jump up on the X, as it was from the first model to my model.
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