I'm sooo glad to see the comment section......I feel so alone in believing Christian Universalism.....Thank You All!!!

Universalism shows that God eventually restores and showed mercy to all. That is the God that I know who is always there for me and He is no respect of persons!

I am so unbelievably proud of this comment section ❤️. Let Christ guide you all to the truth!

Grace to all my children means that I haven't extended grace to any of my children. Makes perfect sense. Christian Universalist believe that we are saved only by what Jesus did on the cross. He did it for everybody not just Calvinist.

Here I was thinking I was the only one connecting the dots on how to make sense of Gods plan. Gods insatiable love and grace for ALL people has changed my very confused and sometimes indefensible view of His good news to ACTUAL good news. And now we live and move and have our being under this.

The victory of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is total. God will be all in all. As the scriptures say, "God is light. God is life. God is love. In him, there is no darkness at all."

1 Timothy 4:10 - The New International Version (NIV) 10 That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe.

Jesus is the Savior of the World. This fact doesn’t distort God’s grace...it demonstrates it.

“The threat of universalism” ooooh so scary

I´ve read and watched a lot of Christian Universalist material: That All Shall Be Saved by David Bentley Hart Jesus Undefeated by Keith Giles The Evangelical Universalist by Gregory MacDonald (Robin Parry) The Inescapable Love of God by Thomas Talbott KZfaq channel The Total Victory of Christ and more. Although I do not share all of their Biblical interpretations, I´ve never heard any of them say that God is dependent on His creation in any way. I´ve never heard any of them say that we are co-creators with God. I´ve never heard any of them say that mankind is saved because mankind is inherently divine. I´ve never heard any of them say that God is obligated to save mankind. I´ve never heard any of them say that man expiates his own sin by his own suffering. None of them are ultra universalists. None of them believe that God has no wrath. They simply believe that God is not angry for all eternity. And grace extended to all people does not undermine the value of grace, at least not from God’s perspective-a perspective that all people will have in the end. If you think that universal grace undermines the power and value of grace in each person, you really don’t understand how divine grace works. In human economics, if the government makes everyone a millionaire by giving each person in the country one million dollars, then you will have a problem with inflation, and the value of each dollar is drastically reduced, and therefore no one will be actually rich. This is because man cannot create wealth out of nothing; he must work hard to develop the goods and services that contribute to wealth. If this is how God’s grace worked, each one of us believers may as well work hard to EARN our salvation. But thanks be to God that God’s divine economy works totally differently than man’s! God, as the all-powerful Creator of all things ex nihilo, can create wealth and abundance and freedom for all people without devaluing it the slightest bit. This is because God teaches each person individually to VALUE IT AND CHERISH IT.

"When everyone gets grace, no one actually gets grace" This reminds me of that attitude expressed in The Incredibles "if everyone's special, no one is" and ya know, that kind of attitude that plays into is exactly what Jesus was trying to dismantle with many of His Parables.

This comment section is so awesome!!! 🥺😭🙌🏻❤️

Your guest here totally misrepresents Christian universalism. What is central to the issue is, did Jesus succeed in his declared mission to "seek and save that which was lost" or not? If Jesus's atonement was successful, all sin is extinguished, as 2 Corinthians 15:19 declares. What most evangelical Christians fail to recognize is that salvation is a gift, not a reward for anything, including "believing". We believe what is already true (all are saved), we don't change anything BY believing except our realization of the already-existing truth. He also ignores the fact that most universalists do believe that God judges sin. He totally judged it in Christ! Now all is needed for people to experience salvation is to believe the truth that we all ARE forgiven! There are consequences for living in the belief that we are separated from God (which is the true ORIGINAL sin). But this is a BELIEF based in a lie, not the truth.

No soul will be lost. Christ has the ultimate victory. God wants us all to be saved. He cannot fail. Why create a person just to send them to hell forever later? It makes no sense!

what kind of a Life guard willingly lets some drown in order for the rest to be grateful? Would the saved be TRULY grateful with a changed heart ready, willing and WANTING to love? Or.. would the saved be scared shitless that he'd change his mind any moment and zap us!? Sounds like fear to me. No thanks. The logic doesn't follow. Gods LOVE will change each and every heart, His Forgiveness burns away our pride and lust. It may take an everlasting eternal hell of our own making of hiding before we realize, the Lion IS a Lamb. All the while we've been running (not trusting aka sinning) from THE slaughtered LAMB💗

If God wants all saved, like any good father would, and God can do anything He wants, including giving us a new heart ot know and obey Him, which the Bible says He will do, and God says He "Will do ALL of my pleasure", then how could all people not eventualy be saved? The Bible says all will! Psalm 66:4 "All the earth will worship God". PERIOD!

So, if everybody receives happiness, then happiness is overrated? Isn't that pretty childish? "Only my friends and I get to have happiness with God, and the rest can burn for "eternity" (which doesn't even make sense given the definition of the world)"? Somehow your salvation is way better when billions of other humans, many of whom you have loved yourself, will be tormented everlastingly? I choose to believe the many, many promises in the Bible that clearly state that God will save all, that every knee will bow and tongue confess, that God will bring all men to himself, and that God is the Savior of all, especially of those who believe. If it is God's heart that all men be saved (as Scripture states), then isn't it being more like Him to hope for such a salvation?

He talks about undermining grace as though grace is more important than Jesus' death on the cross. Universalism says, if His death on the cross still resulted in Him losing a majority of souls then His death was an ineffective solution. So are we concerned about undermining "grace" or undermining "the cross"? He gives an overflowing bucket analogy to illustrate the creation of the world but later says that God's grace won't overflow to all because that would undermine grace. Romans 5 and 6 have numerous verses indicating that all humanity is saved. As far as rejecting Him goes, could you reject Him in any greater way than driving the spikes through his hands and feet? While they were killing Him, Jesus asked the Father to forgive those who were in the process of killing Him. I would say that those men rejected him, and yet Jesus plead their case to the Father saying they know not what they do, so forgive them. Honestly, I only care what the bible teaches. At this point I see room for either perspective. Sure, God has wrath, but Psalms 103:9 says he will not keep his anger forever. What does last forever is His steadfast love. (See Psalms 136... each and every verse, 1-26, repeats it.)

Its really sad that so many christians are opposed to the fact that Jesus really is the savior of the whole world and WILL reconcile all created beings in the universe to himself through the blood he shed on the cross. Both good and bad. And in the end death will be swallowed up in victory, and ALL our tears will be wiped out. so that there will be no more suffering, no more evil, no more hatred and sadness.

Not only is this a vast misunderstanding of Christian Universalism, but it's all grounded on the basis that an "eternal torment" even exists. It's soooo interesting how they begin the discussion talking about the vastness and power of God, but then turn around and insinuate that God doesnt have the power to save ALL. I heard an interesting thought one time called "The Creator's Dilemma" : "God creates humans out of love, but knowing that the majority of his creation will suffer for an eternity, would it not be better to stop creating?" The idea of an eternal torment and separation from God is inconsistent with the love, grace and victory of Christ. In fact, the idea that evil still wins undermines the power of God and Jesus' death.

I think the word of God is quite clear on the matter. 1 Timothy 4:9-11 KJVS [9] This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation. [10] For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe. [11] These things command and teach. You appear to be not following Paul's command to Timothy. The grace of God chastises the members of the body of Christ, Titus 2:11&12, and purifies their hearts through the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Ghost, Titus 3:4-7. What you fail to understand is the distinction between those being saved. The body of Christ and those judged in the white throne judgment. Ephesians 1:10-14 KJVS [10] That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: [11] In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: [12] That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. [13] In whom ye also trusted , after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, [14] Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. You sir, need to study the word of God, rather than misleading and scaring people with the wind of doctrine of man. Ephesians 4:14 KJVS [14] That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; www.justifiedfreely.com/?p=241

If we believe this video then God isn't going to be "All in All," and I guess we can look forward to the "reconciliation of some things."

God will win every soul He created! Universal Reconciliation through Christ ❤️❤️❤️

The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some men count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish, but that "all" should come to repentance. (Where there's a will there's a way.) I still believe that hell exists because without it there would be no justice.

Does he also think that Calvinism distorts the grace of God then too? If God is solely responsible for choosing whether or not you go to heaven or hell - doesn't that also "empty our moral choices of meaning"? Are you really going to hold this objection for God changing the character of the mass murder at death, but not if he changed it moments before his death? And on the flip side of the dilemma, it doesn't have to be earning your way out of hell or into heaven. It can simply be a remedial punishment that will cause you to realize your need for God. Basically, it need not be any more earned a salvation than those that believe there is a need for a free will choice in this life. In the end, your dilemma seems like nothing more than the charges that Calvinists and Armenians would level at each other. If you can solve that dilemma for yourself on a non-universalist Christianity, then I don't see why you can't answer it in the same way as a Christian Universalist.

The hell-lovers that discard universalism acts like the brother of the prodical son. Its like their own life here on Earth is so horrible and crappie that they see the afterlife as some kind of reward that they want to have for them self. "-Dont tell me that my unbelieving brother is here walking around in heaven, Father? -I thought that you would sent that piece of crap to hell!"

MARK 12 - 31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.”

By this thinking, the fewer God elects to save, the more gracious grace becomes! Huh? No - where sin abounded (i.e. for each and every descendant of Adam) GRACE DID MUCH MORE ABOUND (Romans 5)!

God saved me from new age AND dangerous religious doctrine. Ge reconciles and restores ALL ❤️

Christianity is too divided against itself. Be one with each other like Jesus is one with the Father.

“For I will not contend forever, Nor will I always be angry; For the spirit would fail before Me, And the souls which I have made.” (Isaiah 57:16)

A lot of good comments here! Yes, Yahweh has saved the whole world, reconciled ALL Creation, through Yeshua His Son. Sorry for bearing Good News, but that’s just the Way this Story goes. There is no verse, passage, man, or otherwise, that can overthrow Yeshua’s Total and Eternal Victory over sin and death. Death loses. Yeshua Wins. That’s the Gospel. What was the cross for?? What does it matter? Apparently you missed it. But to answer, the cross undid ALL that was done in Adam. Heaven forbid that YOU don’t get all the glory for your own Salvation.

LOL! This is along the reasoning of: “If everyone’s special, then I’m not special.” I seriously don’t see how universalism distorts the grace of God, when Universalism says that God’s grace is big enough to save not just a few, not the many, but ALL people.

Hell-preachers do tend to Cherry-pick verses they then interpret through the flesh as supporting "everlasting hell" for all unbelievers. They do this by IGNORING the other verses in the Bible that speaks the Mystery of God's will according to His good purpose; to sum up ALL things in heaven, and on Earth through Christ Jesus. Preaching the falsely interpreted "eternal hell" is sin, because it portray God as one who fails to save the World. Yes, indeed we don't have to live in sin! We should and must strive our very best daily to be holy, as our Father is holy. But in Yahushua (Jesus) we have our blessed, eternal hope that will never fail us, even if we fail ourselves. Yahushua (Jesus) truly IS THE SAVIOR OF THE WORLD as it plainly and clearly says in the Bible, NOT the savior of many and just abiding in Heaven as a 'potential' Savior available for the whole World; who will draw only some unto Himself and still call Himself by that title... No, He IS THE SAVIOR OF THE WORLD with divine blessed love for all human being. Yahushua is a savior - not just in potential, but in action and deed! the mystery of God's will it to sum upp all things in heaven and on earth in Christ... And death will be swallowed up in victory. Are some people believing that death is stronger than Jesus in the rope pulling where mankind is in the middle? Are people thinking those who died unrepented cannot regret their sins and lack the ability to ask Father to embrace them and forgive them in their lonely grave of sorrow? And that God our Father will in the end embrace and forgive them, as He dry away their tears of fears? Do you not know God will raise ALL in the resurrection, EVEN THOSE WHO PIERCED HIM?; the very ones whom Jesus asked the father to forgive (Including the rest of all mankind aswell, by the way!) Dont you know ALL will bow Before God and Jesus and confess Jesus as Lord, and that noone can say Jesus is Lord, BUT by the Holy Spirit!? (1 Corinthians 12:3) :) and that noone can have the Holy Spirit except those belonging to Messiah?! the Bible makes it very clear ALL will belong to Messiah when all is fulfilled in due time. And When all things are summed up in heaven and on Earth in Messiah Jesus and all knees bow to confess with the Power of the Holy Spirit that JESUS IS LORD. Then you'll know the truth and will be free to worship God for all the ages! God is Love and He seeks man's heart, even the spirit of man. So start believing because love does INDEED WIN. :) Have a nice blessed day

"The 'threat' of Universalism", haha... made me chuckle.

Eternal torture in hell distorts the GRACE of God.

"I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear." Isaiah 45:23 KJV This passage clearly states that EVERYONE will joyfully and willingly praise God. If one contends that it's a forced submission, then the whole free will theory is decimated without question. This is a perfect example of God integrating grace and forgiveness without interfering with free will. No one will ultimately be able to resist the love of God because when we are face to face with him he will be refining us to who we were meant to be. Our reservations have already secured.

Think about this --- Whoever believe in God's Word (Jesus) will be saved from Death and have Life. *1 Cor **15:26* : *The last enemy that will be destroyed is Death* . Imagine if there are thousands of thousands people get saved but there is still 1 person put in Death means the last enemy of God still not destroyed. Think about this deeply - this is the key point of all things. Imagine if you're in competition or battle tht you need to destroyed or break 1000 of glasses but there is 1 glas that still intact, do u think you still won the battle ?

It is a miracle to be glad, to have joy, to be well pleased through tears, through heaves of sobbing. May God be praised through the thorns.

The church been wilding out too long, gatekeeping, judging and driving people away from God's love. It's time for Universalists to fight back for our brothers and sisters.

It seems a lot of Christians get their kicks from imagining how "unbelievers" will be burning in hell while they are in heaven having a party. The guy is angry that universalists believe everyone will be saved.

Provisionism: God loves all, but cannot save all (due to man's overriding freewill) Calvinism: God can save all but does not love all (only "the Elect") Universalism: God loves all and can and will save all. Since all three theologies can cough up verses to support their position -- which one presents the highest, most glorifying picture of God?

Universalism is the only gospel that a true Christianity could preach

Universalism isn’t a distortion of the grace of God. Limited atonement is a distortion of the love of God.

This guy is the expert on Christian Universalism, and he doesn't even accurately present what we teach? The atoning death of Christ is the VERY reason I believe in universal atonement. "He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world." 1 John 2:2. "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. " Romans 3:23,24. And one may well point out that this scripture continues to say that we are justified by faith in Jesus. We agree, as we agree with all the scriptures say. But we contend that eventually "every knee will bow," (Phillipians 2:10), and that He "will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth." (1 Tim. 2:4) Of course, the newer translations print that as "desires all men to be saved" which nakedly reveals their agenda to "translate" universalism out of the scripture. I have scoured the internet looking for a compelling argument against universalism, but they all either rely on the mistranslated "eternal" or other liberal translations that are debunked, or they present a universalism of straw that bears little resemblance to the actual teaching.

Yak yak yak. Men trying to be a Bible Let the Bible do the talking. Preach the Gospel. Romans 11 30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: 31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. 32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all. 1 Cor 4 5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God. 1 Cor 11 3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. 1 Cor 15 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. Heb 8 11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. Luke 2 9 And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid. 10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. 11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. 2 Peter 3 9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Joel 2 28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions. Psalm 22 27 All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the Lord: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee. Psalm 65 2 O thou that hearest prayer, unto thee shall all flesh come. Psalm 66 4 All the earth shall worship thee, and shall sing unto thee; they shall sing to thy name. Selah. Psalm 86 9 All nations whom thou hast made shall come and worship before thee, O Lord; and shall glorify thy name. Isaiah 25 8 He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord God will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the Lord hath spoken it. Not sure where you all get the whole eternal punishment thing. I could go on and on and on. Hell was prepared for Satan and his angels. Not people that reject Jesus for a time. Or it would say so. On judgement day, there is no mention in Matthew of people being cast for rejecting or not believing. Only for never doing a good deed. Only Satan and his angels are guilty of that. For they do only evil continually. You do know God has the power to heal any ailment, right? Yet you preach He will cast his own children that He made into an eternal punishment for ever and ever? Very very sad. And far from loving or merciful. Think gentlemen. God bless.

. “But God would not take away a life; He would devise plans so that the one banished from Him does not remain banished.” 2 Sam. 14:14

The first half of this has nothing to do with universalism!

The salvation of All is all throughout the scriptures. It is widely known that most English Translations are full of errors that help support the idea of Eternal Suffering. Mistranslating words like “Hell, everlasting, Eternal, forever, etc. but a study on such passages in the original Greek and Hebrew, everything begins to line up in support of the Universal Viewpoint.

As an ex-Calvinist pastor who embraced the Truth of Biblical universalism - I am shocked at how grossly misrepresented Christian Universalism is in this video!! Have you not read Athanasius “On the Incarnation”?? This is the OPPOSITE of gnostic false doctrine! Better yet- read Romans 5:18, “Yes, Adam’s one sin brings condemnation for everyone, but Christ’s one act of righteousness brings a right relationship with God and new life for everyone.”

God created us to know,love, and serve him...

How can a Calvinist object to Universalism? If God can predestine before eternity who will go to hell and who won't, why can't He forcibly change the hearts of sinners and bring them into His Love?

CONTINUED FROM PRIOR COMMENT: But if salvation is entirely by God’s grace we have another problem… 1. Does God save arbitrarily… at random… like the toss of a coin? For surely if salvation is by the undeserved favor of God then there is nothing in us or our actions that demanded salvation. If this random salvation is true then are we saying that God created billions of humans for the specific purpose of tormenting them in hell for all eternity? (Eternal torment seems to be the popular consensus.) 2. If God does not save by random chance, and God does save entirely by grace, and if God is not partial (“God is no respecter of persons”) then, could it be that God will eventually save everyone? Because no one deserved salvation…. And no one could do anything to earn His favor… And if FAITH is GIVEN to those who are saved… we could ask why not save all? Why not give FAITH to all? Why not display this undeserved favor to ALL? I suppose the real question is… Are we saved by Christ’s death and resurrection? Or, are we saved by belief in His death and resurrection? If we are not saved by His death and resurrection then why have Christ die at all? If we could have been saved by FAITH, OBEDIENCE, TRUST, GOOD WORKS etc. then Christ death is not essential. And it has not paid for our sins. If Christ’s death has paid for our sins… and God demands the unbelieving sinner, to whom God has not GIVEN faith, to pay for his own sins in hell, then, isn’t that called “Double Jeopardy”? Isn’t that illegal? I cannot accept the poor analogy of a gift-wrapped present which one must open and “accept” to be enjoyed. A closer, more Biblical analogy is one my wife told me of…A Bridge operator, whose little son was playing on the bridge, (when suddenly a cruise (party) ship appeared) had to decide between opening the bridge and killing his son… or not and destroying the ship and those aboard. He opened the bridge. The Ship passed under. Those partying continued to party. Someone gave their life that they might live. Did they know? Had they heard? Did they believe? No, no, no. Yet their salvation from death and disaster was assured, guaranteed. Can’t we say that the DEATH AND RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST GUARANTEES OUR SALVATION? Or, perhaps this analogy is better… Suppose a wealthy man came through your town and paid everyone’s mortgage debt off FREELY. That would be good news. Perhaps not everyone will hear… perhaps those who hear will not believe… but no one will come and kick them out of their homes for the debt has been paid. No one will demand a repayment. Surely one should rejoice in such good news. Unless one wanted to pay his own debt in his own pride. Do you believe that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners - or just to make salvation possible? Please understand how crucial this question is to everything we live, teach, believe and do. I can no longer go to most churches because they teach that Christ came into the world to make salvation possible but not to actually save sinners. Again, by making salvation possible, it could be said that we save ourselves by taking advantage of that possibility. Which would lead to pride. A “possible” salvation is uncertain, conditional, contingent, and perhaps even changeable and revocable. Is God’s love conditional? Contingent? Changeable? Revocable? Uncertain? Or are you like the ministers who tell us of the conditions we must meet in order to enjoy God’s unconditional/conditional love? Many preachers try to disguise their teaching in saying that we are saved by a combination of God’s grace and our response. But that kind of “grace” is nothing more than a meritorious reward. In other words, we must somehow “qualify” for God’s grace. (Again if we qualify then God would owe salvation to us.) How can we earn His grace? If we could earn His grace it wouldn’t really be grace. It would be deserved. It would be strictly what is due. It would be work. I hope you care for the truth enough to settle the answer clearly in your mind. There is much torture in never being sure of the work of God. “Am I truly save?” “Have I sinned too much?” “Do I have the right kind of faith?” Is this true… we are saved entirely by His GRACE, not by our effort both before we believe and after we believe…? and that Christ came into the world to SAVE and that it is His work not ours? And if we truly understood the import of this teaching, our hearts would exult in God and our FAITH in His work could truly grow. Instead I hear too many ministers say essentially that we must have FAITH in our faith. Not in the work Christ did on the cross. For that, they say, merely makes salvation possible, not actual. Faith, they say, is that which saves you. Therefore you must trust in your trust, believe in your belief and have faith in your faith. This I cannot easily do. I trust God. I do not trust my faith. It is weak and filled with doubt. I have faith in God. But no faith in my faith. I have been wrong too many times. I believe in God. But not my belief. For my belief is always struggling for sight, for more facts, for proof. Some versions of the Bible say we are saved by the faith of Christ, yet others say it is by faith in Christ. (Gal 3:22, Rom 3:22) If, when every knee bows and every tongue confesses, all are not saved… what do these words mean? Is is a forced bowing? Ministers say God does not force us to do things??? Is there any example of the word BOW in scripture used in a forced way? Does not the scripture say that no man can say Jesus is Lord except by Holy Spirit? From the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh, says one passage from the Bible. If they confess, their hearts must also be changed, right? And this bowing and confessing is directly tied to the death of Christ in this passage. Does this view then not belittle Christ’s humiliation by saying that it accomplishes a forced bowing which has no effect on the sinner and is in reality a mockery, for the sinner is bound to hell and he is merely bowing out of compulsion?….If God does not force the sinner to accept Christ.. why would God force the sinner to go to hell? Both are acts of compulsion according to Christian language. Why would Christians say that the sinner is bound by sin yet FREE to do good works? This “possible” salvation is sad really. No one would rejoice in a “possible” life guard… Who gave a drowning man a “chance” to be saved, but did not save him. I Tim. 4:10 says that God is the Saviour of All mankind especially of Believers. I have heard more than 4,500 sermons in evangelical churches. Yet, I have never heard a sermon on this verse. Even though I Tim 4:11 says “teach this”. Could we conclude from this verse that believers get a special salvation? It does not say exclusively of believers, but especially of believers. Could it be that this special salvation that the believers get is a foretaste, or forerunner to the general salvation for the ALL MANKIND? Can God be the saviour of those He does not save? According to popular ministers God is the POSSIBLE SAVIOUR OF ALL MANKIND, AND POSSIBLY OF BELIEVERS. And what of “eternal torment?” I have discovered that there is no word in the entire book of God that is the exact equivalent of our English word “ETERNAL“. The word translated eternal is also translated AGE or WORLD in ALL of the passages where the passage defines the meaning of this word by its usage. (EXAMPLE: The end of the “AION”, the AION to come, etc.) It is only when the passage does not define the meaning of this word (AION, AIONIOS) that the popular translations and theologians take the liberty to push “eternal” as a “possible meaning”. But it would be silly to say “THE END OF THE ETERNAL.” That would reveal their deception. God speaks of the ages. God promises age-lasting life to the believer. God promises age-lasting chastening to the unbeliever. God has a “purpose of the ages” (Eph. 3:11). When the ages are done, concluded, finished (Heb 9:26 & I Cor 10:11) then and then only can eternity begin. Then and then only will God be ALL IN ALL. (I COR 15:28) Then and then only will death, the wages of sin, be abolished (I Cor 15:26) (Am I to assume that you believe God is able to destroy the first death but unable to destroy the second death?) There are five English versions of the Bible which have this mistake corrected. Young’s Literal Translation and The Concordant Literal New Testament are among these which consistently translate AION, AIONIOS by “AGE” “AGE-DURING” or “EON” “EONIAN”. Isn’t creation God’s objective work? Isn’t salvation also God’s objective work. I am ashamed of Christian teaching. Christians somehow suggest that salvation is God’s work but it is also man’s work. That makes salvation a “subjective” work. Man according to popular teaching must “believe/repent/obey” to experience God’s loving kindness. According to popular teaching salvation is subjective, and one must “believe” before it becomes real. I must then ask, is the work of Adam also subjective? Do you have to believe in Adam to be a sinner and be condemned and die? Romans 5:18,19 & I Corinthians 15:22 plainly say that our experience of life or death in ADAM and in CHRIST are objective facts and not dependent upon our belief in either to be true. AS IN ADAM ALL DIE, SO IN CHRIST SHALL ALL BE MADE ALIVE…(it is not all who believe in Adam will die, and all who believe in Christ will be made alive.) CONTINUED NEXT COMMENT.

CONTINUED FROM PRIOR COMMENT: BY THE OFFENCE OF THE ONE CONDEMNATION CAME UPON ALL MEN, EVEN SO BY THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE ONE LIFE WILL COME UPON ALL MEN, FOR AS BY THE ONE MAN’S DISOBEDIENCE X-AMOUNT WERE MADE SINNERS EVEN SO BY THE OBEDIENCE OF THE ONE THE SAME AMOUNT WILL BE MADE RIGHTEOUS. (being condemned in Adam does not require belief in ADAM so being righteous in Christ does not necessarily require belief in CHRIST.) Christians say, a man can only blame himself if he goes to hell. If that be true then- a man can only praise himself for going to heaven. For praise and blame must come from the same source. God, according to popular teaching, did nothing for the Christian that He did not also do for the sinner. But the sinner will not be saved unless…. This is a definite “works” construction. God must supply the FAITH/REPENTANCE/OBEDIENCE because we all depend on His CAUSALITY. We cannot invent these things out of thin air. He is the author and finisher of our faith. We are His workmanship. He receives all praise/blame honor/dishonor glory/infamy for the final outcome of His creative ability. Redemption must be part of creation. For, it seems to me that creation will not be complete until all are redeemed. I’m sorry to unload all of this on you. Please don’t feel like you have to answer everything I have discussed in this letter. But if you have have any comments I would be grateful for your insights. Please respond. Yours,

I'm not a universalist, but this argument is dubious. There's no special grace in being spared temporal suffering in hell? There's no mercy in getting the carrot instead of the stick? There's no favor in not having to face the full reality and consequences of our own sinfulness? And then there's the whole issue that Jesus did not eternally harrow hell in order to offer thorough propitiation for the elect, which certainly raises the possibility that the wages of sin is...well, something other than *eternal* conscious torment.

Eternal torture distorts the grace _and love_ of God

Honestly, I don't believe either of these gentlemen understand what a Christian Universalist actually believes or what grace actually is. I say that with respect, and I hold nothing against them. I had much the same posture towards this doctrine of Universalism for over forty years. What I've come to believe is so much simpler than the systematic theologies I used to study, that "...by the grace of God, (Jesus) tasted death for every man," Heb.2:9. Why? "...that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death," Heb. 2:14. Why? To "...deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage," Heb. 2:15 (by the way, that's every one of us). He is the Perfection of God's love, "made perfect through suffering," Heb. 2:10; "...perfect love casts out fear," 1 John 4:18, and "Love never fails," 1 Cor. 13:8. Jesus is the "altogether lovely", incarnate love of the Father who gave himself for us on the cross, and "It is finished". "Our warfare is over". "And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to me," John 12:32. I believe Jesus knows far better than we do the power of his love for us. "Only believe". Camels will pass through the eye of a needle, even "as by fire"; and "Our God is a consuming fire".

If universalism is true, it really doesn't matter what you believe or do or what you think about universalism. But if it isn't true, and there is a negative consequence to be had, surely that would be reason enough to study the topic out for ourselves.

This is why I started my channel to address the confusion about God's eonian purpose.

So if I am in a skyscraper that's burning up, and the Fire Marshal and His workers save everyone (each in his own order). Then that cheapens me not being tortured, as opposed to it was just only me and about 5% of the inhabitants there being saved. That is an analogy to Michael's argument of what he is actually saying.

Mat 26:24 The Son of Man goes as it is written of him, but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been better for that man if he had not been born.” Mat 26:25 Judas, who would betray him, answered, “Is it I, Rabbi?” He said to him, “You have said so.”

Calvinism is easily one of the most depraved and detestable systems of thought ever devised.

Post mortem suffering and then redemption for non-believers does not distort grace. The suffering is corrective in nature, not punitive. I believe that only non-believers and the unrepentant will endure post mortem suffering (it is really more of a purification process). But let me get your argument straight. An after death period of suffering distorts grace even though, eventually, all will be saved by grace (some directly, some after correction). But the idea that only a few will ever be saved and most people will suffer torment for eternity doesn't distort grace? That idea distorts it to the point that it isn't very effective.

I'm not an universalist, however, nowhere Universalism says there's not gonna be punishment. All it says is that though punishment there's eventually gonna be salvation, and this is through grace. Without Jesus sacrifice on the cross this wouldn't be possible. I really don't know where this guy got even Kabbalah in the story. It just shows he has no idea what he's talking about and just wanna sell his book. He didn't say even one Bible verse!

God's infinite love apparently isnt infiite now :/

Christ in Us is the Hope of Glory!

This comment section is so based I love it

So I guess I'm not done since I found the alerts in the corner, (I'm new at this). I'm also not going to respond separately to all of them. Again I will say that Jesus commanded us to go out and preach the Gospel. If universalism is true... then again, THAT would not be necessary. The only ones that see life after death... are those who put their faith in Jesus and the Father, (there is one caveat to that, and I'll try to find the verse). Many people misunderstand alot of Jesus' comments to be "all inclusive"... when Jesus is only talking about Believers/ Followers. Some of Jesus' comments also only apply to the people and culture of the day when he was in human form. It is VERY important to study and understand the culture that Jesus lived in... in order to get a proper perspective of what He says. He commends some for their faith... and chastises others for their lack of faith. He also Beats up pretty hard on the religious leaders for putting burdens on people. Remember??? He calls the Sadduces and Pharisees "Spawn of satan". Jesus is a "personal" Savior... based on an individuals choice to accept or reject Him... and that choice only happens while we are living. There IS life after death, ("sleeping")... but only for those who are Believers. While the Bible does say "every tongue will confess"... that does not mean everyone will be saved. The Bible points to the FACT, that when Believers die... they go straight into the presence of God, ("absent from the body, present with the Lord"). When non-believers die... they end up waiting until the Great White Throne Judgement. What happens after that... I am undecided about. Is it permanent punishment... or annihilation? I'm not God... and don't pretend to to be. But the Bible does seem to imply both. Either way it doesn't concern me personally... because at that point it's too late to get a "do over". My only concern is leading people to Christ... and giving a proper understanding of the Bible. At this point I would like to thank everyone for not accusing me of judging or condemning people. I have some personal friends that do that when I try to show them what the Bible says. They get offended and attack me personally. Seems my straightforward and blunt approch doesn't go over well with them. All I tell them at that point is: "Hey... I didn't write it or say it. Jesus did."

John 12:32 New International Version (NIV) 32 And I, when I am lifted up[a] from the earth, will draw all people to myself.”

But God desires ALL to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. Are God's desires ultimately futile and meaningless? Just a wish that He from eternity past knew would never come to pass?

6 minutes in and he hasn't quoted scriptures, just philosophied.

The term "co-create" simply refers to the fact that we have free will. He clearly allows us to have free will and make choices, therefore that term seems to be valid at least in the way it was intended. To claim otherwise would be to claim to be an automaton incapable of making choices that go against Gods will.

Universalism is anti-Bible and anti-Christ because the Bible literally explains that not everyone will be saved. In fact, most won’t. Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6

Is God not sovergn over his own creation? You deny the sovereignty of God the sufficiency of Jesus Christ sacrifice and make God look bad with the doctrine of eternal punishment. Universal salvation is one of the earliest church teachings in existance. 1 Corinthians 15:22-23 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

Who will make it into heaven? Mat 5:5 Blessed are the MEEK: for they shall inherit the earth. Psa 37:9 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth. Psa 37:10 For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be. Psa 37:11 But THE MEEK SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace. Psa 37:18 The LORD knoweth the days of the upright: and their inheritance shall be for ever. Psa 37:19 They shall not be ashamed in the evil time: and in the days of famine they shall be satisfied. Psa 37:20 But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away. 1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? BE NOT DECEIVED: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 1Co 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. Gal 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Jhn 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Jhn 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Jhn 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. Luk 18:25 For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. Luk 18:26 And they that heard it said, Who then can be saved? Luk 18:27 And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God. Luk 18:28 Then Peter said, Lo, we have left all, and followed thee. Luk 18:29 And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or parents, or brethren, or wife, or children, for the kingdom of God's sake, Luk 18:30 Who shall not receive manifold more in this present time, and in the world to come life everlasting. Mar 10:14 But when Jesus saw it, he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God. Mar 10:15 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein. Luk 13:23 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,Luk 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. Luk 13:25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:Luk 13:26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. Luk 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. Luk 13:28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

He ends with John 3:16 and ignores John 3:17. There is still John 3:18, but is it self evident that 3:16-17 needs to be subordinated to 3:18? Maybe it does, but there seems to be an intolerance even fore the *hope* that Christ will find a way. I will add his book to my long list of books I need to read.

Universalists love to use human philosophy and logic to support their viewpoint. Human thoughts are not God’s thoughts.

Really universalism distorts Grace. LMAO. Thats a good one 555. I mean the question of SOME or All being SAVED is asked directly of Christ in Luke 13. Here is the question. “Lord then are only a few going to be saved?” It would seem very unfortunate that Michael McClymond has obviously never read what Christ answered, if he had, he would have saved himself his time in writing a 1400 page book

I came into this video wanting to dismantle all the anti-universalism comments but this comment section makes me so happy. Well done comment section, well done!!!

It is interesting to me that the very people who rightly insist that God is free to do as He pleases dont take that to the logical end that God can save everyone if He wants to. It is possible that He wont. But I think its likely that He will. This is the difference between hope and presumption, and thats where I hang my hat. I dont see how hope is heresy.

I am delighted to see how pro-universalist almost all the comments are.

Lol. Infernalist cope hard.

Philippians 3 : 19 " Their end is destruction : their god is their belly : that in which they glory is their shame. Men whose whole minds are earthbound!"

It' a question of authority. " Father forgive them for they know not what they do" Luke 23:34. Forgive whom?

“JESUS Truly Is The SAVIOR of the WORLD” •God created the entire WORLD: All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. - John 1:3 •The entire WORLD has SINNED against God: “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” - Romans 3:23 also 3:10-18 •As a result, God will JUDGE ALL the ends of the EARTH: “The adversaries of the LORD shall be broken to pieces; against them he will thunder in heaven. The LORD will judge the ends of the earth” - 1 Samuel 2:10 •However, it is NOT God’s DESIRE that the wicked should PERISH, but that ALL men should be SAVED: Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, declares the Lord GOD, and not rather that he should turn from his way and live? - Ezekiel 18:23 3 This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. - 1 Timothy 2:3-4 •God therefore CALLS ALL the ends of the EARTH to be SAVED: "Turn to me and be saved, all the ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no other. - Isaiah 45:22 •God didn’t merely call the world to salvation, God SENT His Son JESUS on a MISSION to SAVE the WORLD: For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. - John 3:17 •He promises us that His Son WILL SUCCEED in His MISSION to take AWAY the SIN of the WORLD: The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, "Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! - John 1:29 declaring the end from the beginning and from ancient times things not yet done, saying, 'My counsel shall stand, and I will accomplish all my purpose,' - Isaiah 46:10 so shall my word be that goes out from my mouth; it shall not return to me empty, but it shall accomplish that which I purpose, and shall succeed in the thing for which I sent it. - Isaiah 55:11 •This was ACCOMPLISHED through CHRIST’s death on THE CROSS: 5 For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all, which is the testimony given at the proper time. - 1 Timothy 2:5-6 He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. - 1 John 2:2 For the love of Christ controls us, because we have concluded this: that one has died for all, therefore all have died; - 2 Corinthians 5:14 •Now, in order to fully experience this salvation, we must TURN and CONFESS that JESUS IS LORD: 9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. - Romans 10:9-10 •Unfortunately, MANY have DIED without making this confession and WILL BE JUDGED: but they will give account to him who is ready to judge the living and the dead. - 1 Peter 4:5 •Yet, there is STILL HOPE, for the GOSPEL was PREACHED even TO THE DEAD that though JUDGED, they should LIVE: For this is why the gospel was preached even to those who are dead, that though judged in the flesh the way people are, they might live in the spirit the way God does. - 1 Peter 4:6 •The “NATIONS” and “KINGS of the EARTH” that fight against God will one day be SENTENCED to the LAKE OF FIRE: From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty. - Revelation 19:15 19 And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth with their armies gathered to make war against him who was sitting on the horse and against his army. 20 And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its presence had done the signs by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped its image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur. - Revelation 19:19-20 •Yet the DOORS to the NEW JERUSALEM are ALWAYS OPEN: and its gates will never be shut by day-and there will be no night there. - Revelation 21:25 •And surprisingly, the “NATIONS” and “KINGS of the EARTH” will ENTER: By its light will the nations walk, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it, - Revelation 21:24 •Therefore, NOTHING will STOP people from TURNING to the Lord: All the ends of the earth shall remember and turn to the LORD, and all the families of the nations shall worship before you. - Psalm 22:27 •DEATH is NO BARRIER to worldwide CONFESSION and WORSHIP: 9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, 10 so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. - Philippians 2:9-11 And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea, and all that is in them, saying, "To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be blessing and honor and glory and might forever and ever!" - Revelation 5:13 •In the end, we are PROMISED that ALL the ends of the EARTH will REMEMBER and TURN to the LORD: All the ends of the earth shall remember and turn to the LORD, and all the families of the nations shall worship before you. - Psalm 22:27 •God will SUCCEED in RECONCILING ALL THINGS in Christ! as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth. - Ephesians 1:10 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether on earth or in heaven, making peace by the blood of his cross. - Colossians 1:20 declaring the end from the beginning and from ancient times things not yet done, saying, 'My counsel shall stand, and I will accomplish all my purpose,' - Isaiah 46:10 In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will, - Ephesians 1:11 •In the end, GOD WILL TRULY BE ALL IN ALL: When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things in subjection under him, that God may be all in all. - 1 Corinthians 15:28 •For FROM God and THROUGH God and TO God are ALL THINGS! 32 For God has consigned all to disobedience, that he may have mercy on all. 33 Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are his judgments and how inscrutable his ways! 34 "For who has known the mind of the Lord, or who has been his counselor?" 35 "Or who has given a gift to him that he might be repaid?" 36 For from him and through him and to him are all things. To him be glory forever. Amen. - Romans 11:32-36 •Summary: EVERYONE was brought to CONDEMNATION through Adam’s sin, but EVERYONE will also experience JUSTIFICATION and LIFE through Jesus’ obedience. “THE MANY” who were brought to DEATH through ADAM will be made RIGHTEOUS through JESUS: 18 Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation to all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life to all men. 19 For as by the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man's obedience the many will be made righteous. - Romans 5:18-19 •Conclusion: JESUS TRULY IS THE SAVIOR OF THE WORLD! They said to the woman, "It is no longer because of what you said that we believe, for we have heard for ourselves, and we know that this is indeed the Savior of the world." - John 4:42 And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world. - 1 John 4:14 9 The saying is trustworthy and deserving of full acceptance. 10 For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all people, especially of those who believe. 11 Command and teach these things. - 1 Timothy 4:9-11

Hogswill. You distort His Grace. You actually CHEAPEN it. Well done on that front

Offensive Doctrine: Option #1: God CAN'T or WON'T save all. Option #2: God CAN AND DOES save all. Either doctrine offends. Beware of which leaven is your bread *Matt. 16:6 《Matt 13:33》 The Word of God Judges/cuts us... It reveals us to ourselves. Which doctrine offends YOU?

I can't understand people worshipping God yet believing He will burn millions of people every second until eternity. That is not someone i would worship, never. God will take all of us home! Everyone will go to heaven.

False dichotomy at 9:10, or at least a problem that is identical for the orthodox Christian to solve, only before death rather than after. That is, if the entirety of our salvation is by God's grace, what reason can there be for our continuing experience of suffering and the fight to mortify the old man of the flesh? It is not that we need to add to God's grace, but that in God's wisdom it is included part and parcel with our saving participation with the life of Christ. (Obviously more to be said on how to understand that.) But the point is that the universalist has the perfectly valid option of saying that the soul's purgation and transformation after death is not evidence of a deficiency of God's grace, but rather a proof of its abundance in persevering beyond the grave, and a God-glorifying process that is entirely in keeping with His consistently observed pattern of manifesting the perfection of His power through long, sovereign, invincibly victorious (because of the Sabbath Day of eternity) processes rather than through instantaneous acts that are simplistic, uninformative and therefore doxologically unproductive. So it seems as though the real question becomes, what are the proper limitations to God's grace? Obviously there is no limit to either God's power or wisdom or Worth, and nothing does or is able to prevent or hinder or obstruct or slow the advance and arrival of His will for reality. So if we hold that there are those to whom the grace of God is not salvifically effective, we need to come to some framework in which we can understand their grievous, irredeemable rebellion and eternal destruction as a greater and deeper grace and a more perfect destiny than that which the universalists envision (or the even more simplistic perpetually Edenic vision of the ante-theodicy). The answer obviously lies within the cross of Christ (in Whom are hid all mysteries...) but the universalist position is one that is not easily dismissed in arriving at a consistent theological system, and very likely needs to be examined well and thoroughly understood before relinquishing in preference for the glory of the biblical vision. If the glory of the biblical vision of the will of God for the creation revealed in Christ is not understood and contemplated and adored then neither orthodoxy nor its fruits will be able to persevere in this or any society and culture.

1400 page book attacking Universalism. who is he trying to convince, himself?

This is more like "A misunderstanding of Christian Universalism distorts the Grace of God" He starts off making what seems to be straw man arguments. I personally have never heard Christian Universalists say that God needs His creation, nor that we create with God. I do not hold those beliefs. (Except when you have kids, you kind of create with God.) About the divine nature in man: There is one. We call it the image of God. The Bible even says we are gods (Jn 10:34; Ps 82:6). This "divinity" or "image of God" was severely corrupted when man fell but is restored in Jesus Christ. I am a Christian Universalist who still recognizes the absolute importance of faith and repentance in order to be saved. Those who do not have faith nor repent in life will do so in death. I believe there is temporary suffering, guilt, and shame after death in the intermediate state of Hades as a consequence for sin, but your suffering could never purge you of that sin, only the work of Jesus can do that.

I'm new to the Universalism understanding of the Bible. What is made of Jesus and Paul speaking of the Kingdom of Heaven in relation to they who 'will not enter' or 'will not inherit' it?

for the first 5 centuries the early church believed in universal salvation. The complete victorious gospel of our lord and savior Christ Jesus. I don't think universal salvation distorts God's grace, but it expands it and opens up salvation for all the world even from beyond the grave. 1 peter 4:6 for this cause was the Goodnews preached to those who are now dead. and Christ preached to the spirits in prison I don't believe it was to seal their fate but to save their still lost souls. I expect arguments but I'm not going to budge. During the refining process "brimstone" or sulfur dioxide is released from the gold just like the lake of fire. The impurities are taken out of the Gold. Just because I believe in universal salvation and reconciliation does not mean that I believe there is no hell without it justice cannot be served.

So if sin is fine and Universalists must believe that sin is no issue and whether you sin or not it doesn't matter or whether you believe in the necessity of a Saviour doesn't matter. If Universalists do not believe in Jesus or believe we need to believe in Him to be saved and sin is not a problem, how are they different from satanists?

Not sure what Gnosticism has to do with Biblical Evangelical Universalism. Associating the two sounds like smear tactics. I hope I see a fair representation in one of these clips.

calling people "co-creators" is not saying people can also create ex nihilo. Man as co-creators means that man is a small microcosm of what God does in the universal larger sense. We do not create out of nothing. What has been proven is that our actions-- words and deeds have a direct impact on our own bodies and the physical world that we impact. Dr. Masaru Emotu's experiments with the water molecules demonstrate that, but what we also experience it in High school biology with experiments with plants-- the plant can flourish or diminish from external influences-- energetic vibrations offered by sound. I get the feeling that McClymond's entire thesis is based on superficial understandings of what he's opposing.

John 1:12 says but as many who receive Him, to them He gave the right to be called the children of God. So the Universalist believe that after this life the doers of iniquity will continue to have opportunity to receive Him until they do? Can anyone please give me a scripture that says that those who refuse Christ in this life will have continued opportunities to receive Him in the hereafter?

For a thorough refutation of McClymond's objections to Christian Universalism - see: www.academia.edu/37667049/A_Response_to_Michael_McClymonds_Theological_Critique_of_Universalism

He didn't even comment on Origen and Gregory of Nyssa? OK he got Bulgakov, but he absolutely misrepresented him? I've been looking into Universalism for a few months now, and I haven't come across any of the types of Universalism he describes. There are so many instances in which he misunderstands what serious Universalists have been saying about certain topics, things that to me were the first arguments of them I came across. I can't take this seriously

I don’t see it this way you guys, He died for every single sin not just ours the Bible says. 1 Timothy 4:10 New International Version That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe. 1 John 2:2 NIV He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. Love you! And God bless! Enjoy your Christmas :)