Q&A from Dr. Rosaria Butterfield's lecture at the University of South Florida
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@phyllis1456 жыл бұрын
Rosaria, it takes a lot of courage to speak on this issue and you have done it with grace and fidelity to God's Word. Thank you.
@thirzapeevey28334 жыл бұрын
Rosaria Butterfield, I hope I get to meet you some day. You are the very epitome of a courageous follower of Christ, who has given up everything and taken up your cross to follow him. Thank you!
@Axisearth2 жыл бұрын
People did not like when she said the opposite of homosexuality is holiness. Because the American Christian church has made an idol out of marriage. Marriage is NOT the ultimate Christian state. Holiness under a Holy God is.
@ThomasCranmer195910 ай бұрын
There is no such thing as a celibate homosexual Christian.
@hidyho60729 жыл бұрын
Boy would I like to see this kind of respectful and insightful dialogue taking place all over our nation! Well done! Believers!? Take note!
@deero80502 жыл бұрын
Amazing wisdom and gift from above. Thank you so much for your faithful ministry in Christ and your love for sinners’ souls 🙏
@yr21802 жыл бұрын
Love listing to her. She speaks so well. To all of us
@ProofThatGodExists10 жыл бұрын
Thanks to that young man who asked for clarification about Dr. Butterfield's comment about the Bible getting it wrong. Much needed.
@christistruth7053 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment! I had quit listening when she said the Bible got it wrong. After reading your comment, I went back and listened to that clarification. Whew!
@scapps8173 Жыл бұрын
I thought the same. I will listen to the end.
@HopingforGodsreturnsoon5 жыл бұрын
Very glad she explained at minute 37 and then at 46 she clarified The Bible IS RIGTH and there is NO ERROR at all in The Bible. That was really bugging me like the second guy that asked the same questions. Again I'm very glad she explained and clarified it there. Very interesting video and Q&A and definitely a great video to share with more>>>>
@hidyho60729 жыл бұрын
YES! I was shocked and searching the internet and her book for clarification! I KNEW she truly misspoke and was desperately hoping someone would return to that question!
@RUFOwls2 жыл бұрын
There have been a few questions about her statement the Bible got that wrong at the 31:00 mark. If you continue listening to the 36:31 mark another questioner asks her to clarify the statement which she does adequately.
@gummylens5465 Жыл бұрын
Hi, you might want to pin this comment! :)
@KM-zn3lx4 жыл бұрын
Personally I have felt bitterness against the lgbtq ppl because I see them encroaching on our innocent young through schools. Also the gay pride month and parades. I see more and more that Christians are being disrespected and persecuted against if they speak. So please forgive me God. I came across this actually in answer to prayer to heal my bitterness against those who are mandating that all ppl approve their sinful lifestyles.
@paulbrady2836 Жыл бұрын
you poor thing you, LMAO
@jeffdavis754310 ай бұрын
Lgbtq leave our children alone!
@theostein8 жыл бұрын
UNBELIEVERS: Please read the Bible! BELIEVERS: Please read the Bible!
@ahappycoma37565 жыл бұрын
Amen to that! If we all did, America would not look like it does today!
@ryanliddicoat17224 жыл бұрын
human change towards God’s best for you needs to be made in the strength of the Holy Spirit.
@phyllisberg53146 жыл бұрын
Wow, Rosaria, you are one of the most intelligent women I have ever encountered! You really know your stuff. You are my new hero!!
@stidwell91 Жыл бұрын
Man = one; woman = one Men = more than one; women = more than one
@kchansenak5 жыл бұрын
Admire and learning from Rosaria. God's Patience and Kindness leads us to Repentance. To Change the way we think, and to be new born, receive His Life & Forgiveness and become restored with Relationship. Helping others by Loving and Truth. Salt and Light. Rosaria and her Hubby manifest this well. :-)
@trishedkins6993 Жыл бұрын
You are amazing.Learnt so much from you.Keep on keeping on in Yhe Truth.Set them free in truth and ❤ love
@someoneoutthere4061 Жыл бұрын
I would love to hear her on English lit, poetry, deep reading, etc. She has so much knowledge and insight.
@AshkenaziChristian9 жыл бұрын
I liked the way Dr. Butterfield address the question/statement by the self-identified Jesuit in the audience. Thank you, Dr. B.!
@pianogal8538 ай бұрын
10 years ago! We're the same age 😊 I appreciate your diligence to God's Word!
@RocketRodCub10 жыл бұрын
Although lengthy, this is a good exchange in a collegiate context involving questions directed toward a thoughtful Christian viewpoint on the homosexual or gay condition and practice.
@michaellemmen9 ай бұрын
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@ryr1974 Жыл бұрын
I am pleased to hear her give a far more winsome presentation than some of her interviews. And I agree with her saying the point of engagement around the false doctrine of the inherency of scripture.
@orangeandslinky2 жыл бұрын
This was really good.
@johnkodhek2 ай бұрын
This was wonderful. Anyone have a recording of the conversations from the coffee shop?
@overcomeevilwithgood10 жыл бұрын
she's a pastor's wife. awesome!
@annaberitfyen3731 Жыл бұрын
Loved it❤️
@Ark-Angel44 Жыл бұрын
Rosaria is modern day Paul. God's redemption come full circle. One who was such a proponent of the gay movement to be redeemed and used for God's glory.
@funstuff81girl6 жыл бұрын
On the "American professionals say suppressing your sexuality is bad for you" question. What does that mean? All Christians are suppose to "suppress their sexuality" until and unless you enter into godly marriage. If not having sexual relationships is so harmful, it's not just so for lgbt+ then.
@laurabaker517910 ай бұрын
Great point
@pianogal8538 ай бұрын
My story is similar to yours; there's so much to say that I wouldn't say on googly. Blessings on your ministry!
@diemephys9 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you posted this. I was going to stop watching when she said that. Seems I need more work on patience.
@phil4v86 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. Rosaria could you please post on your gathering in the morning.
@hughsomers7989 Жыл бұрын
What other sin creates such hatred, prejudice, and actually being murdered for who you are....I can't think of one.
@mariekunze148210 ай бұрын
Are you serious? so many millions of people have been murdered for who they are? Perhaps the largest group would be people who identify as Christians.
@TheLove4Christ10 жыл бұрын
Thank's for this.
@dannymoore153011 ай бұрын
Clarifying and refreshing......
@piotrwisniewski94789 жыл бұрын
I would love to have heard her before she was "converted".
@d.m.14212 жыл бұрын
Rosaria, Risaria, phobia is a fear, not hate/dislike or racial. Why did you have to say homophobia (2:43) as if it means a dislike or hate?
@quakerman77 жыл бұрын
Rosaria says about slavery, 'The Bible got it wrong.' One: there were many different types of slavery and few of them looked like ante-bellum U.S. Two: Jewish law freed everyone every 7 years so that there would not be generational servitude. Three: When Paul returns Onesimus to Philemon, he plants the seed for the eventual destruction of slavery. Four: there is neither Jew nor Greek, male nor female, slave nor free, for all are one in Christ Jesus. This one verse destroys racism, sexism and classism. Finally, it is hard to be an abusive master when each Sunday your _own_ slave is standing up there at the front as a spiritual leader in your church. Nope: the Bible got it right. The N.T. sets the stage for the eventual abolishment of slavery; we did not have to go outside the N.T. to get that job done.
@gummylens54657 жыл бұрын
She clarifies that she misspoke. 36:32 and 45:47 :)
@nadaalonso6 жыл бұрын
She clarified it - twice.
@dallenwade Жыл бұрын
She may have said she misspoke but she never presented any evidence that God gave any clue in His Word that he opposed it. Not until this brother's post do we get any meat to chew on. Bravo ! Finally some specifics ! Let me add 1 Cor 7:21-23 Were you a slave when you were called? Don't let it trouble you -- although if you can gain your freedom, do so. For the one who was a slave when called to faith in the Lord is the Lord's freed person; the one who was free when called is Christ's slave. You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of human beings.
@miadavis604 Жыл бұрын
Going against YOUR nature is repentance. If you go against GOD'S nature you must repent and turn from your nature. That being said, men with men and women with women is man's (kind) nature (sin conditions among others) and against GOD'S, nature men and women coming together as GOD designed. So how we love those who choose to live contrary to GOD'S design, in all forms, is to speak the truth in love. For salvation of the soul not the flesh.
@charlesmiller24729 ай бұрын
I believe someone in the audience said that God & or the Bible says no sin is greater than another & it seems to me that Rosario agreed. My question then is why would Jesus say to Pilate, “You could have no power at all against Me unless it had been given you from above. Therefore the one who delivered Me to you has the greater sin.” If all sin is the same, then why were there harsher penalties in the Bible for some sin than others?
@RUFOwls9 ай бұрын
That's a great question. One of the most succinct answers comes from the Westminster Confession of Faith in the shorter catechism. Q 83 Are all sins equally heinous? A. Some sins in themselves, and by reason of several aggravations, are more heinous in the sight of God than others. Q 84 What does every sin deserve? A. Every sin deserves God’s wrath and curse, both in this life, and that which is to come.
@charlesmiller24729 ай бұрын
@@RUFOwls I wish the church would explain where it can, the consequences & effects of certain sins, compared to others, while reminding us that God's Son Jesus Christ, the lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world, had to be crucified & die for anyone, regardless of what kind of sins they committed, for their salvation, i.e. for them to believe & repent of those sins & have eternal life. I don't believe if America hadn't adopted gay marriage & normalization of homosexuality, that we would have the amount of children being groomed & drag queen story hours in our schools the way it is today, and the number of children having their bodies & lives destroyed they way they are today, if that road hadn't been paved with the idea that the gay life style is just one of many sins, without considering what that kind of thinking does to the nuclear family that began with Adam & Eve. Same sex relations are described in the Bible as abomination & detestable. I believe we are getting more of an idea why that is, as we observe the disregard in our nation of for children that grooming & drag queen story hours have brought us to.
@Mahlerlover2110 жыл бұрын
I happened to have been at this, and was the first person you hear asking a question. She completely evades the question, as she did with many of the others discussing the beliefs and doctrines she pursues as though they had substantive backing. I do have substance to add to a conversation, but when people start the conversation by saying that they believe things that require no evidence, there is little conversation to have. Science proves that variance in sexuality is natural.
@goyonman9655 Жыл бұрын
Science cannot PROVE a thing is natural
@boxingbasics7015 Жыл бұрын
The Bible does condemn slavery love thy neighbor as thyself
@Yesica199310 жыл бұрын
What on EARTH are you talking about? Now, which statement in this video did you disagree with, and upon what basis? Please give the time stamp so I can check back.
@timcannon68147 жыл бұрын
Have you listened to any of her other videos or talks? This woman is FAR from sticky! Are you a Christian? That's a label. Are you one of those "no creed but Christ no book but the Bible" types? I'd urge you to look at other things she has done and see that she is indeed a sister in Christ.
@melissagarzon374210 жыл бұрын
Everyone needs to watch the film "Fish Out Of Water."
@ProofThatGodExists9 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@AshkenaziChristian9 жыл бұрын
"Looking through" the Bible is not enough, for you must read the entire Bible and compare scripture to scripture. If you knew the meaning of true "critical thinking," you would know critical thinking requires you to read the entire Bible before making your judgment of it. You don't want your medical doctor merely "looking through" his medical books before operating on you, do you? I don't believe you'd consider that M.D.'s as having "critical thinking" if he did, or would you?
@scapps8173 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic explanation of critical thinking....thank you
@williammcenaney133111 ай бұрын
Dr. Butterfield still says homosexuality is a sin. But that conflates a property with an action. What about reparative therapy? If you think it always fails, please read Dr. Joesph Nicolosi's book "Shame and Attachment Loss." It'll tell you that when he counseled a client who felt same-sex attraction, he rarely discussed sex. They talked instead about what pained the client. Some clients see their sexual orientations change. Others don't. The therapy fails when someone wants to change that orientation because other people think homosexual acts are immoral. The ones who see their orientations change when same-sex attraction somehow doesn't fit them.
@cjson5 жыл бұрын
I respect the respect Rosaria has for the authority of the God of the bible, but am therefore struggling to understand what she means when she says "Yes, yes, the bible got that wrong" at 32 minutes, especially given how she herself says that the bible is inerrant - was this a contradiction, or do you think she's driving at something else when she says "the bible got that wrong" e.g. maybe she was trying to say "it's important to know what you *think* is wrong in the bible so that you can then address that by reading it for yourself, with God's help, in order to come to trust that actually God is good, and that every word he says is therefore good"? What do you reckon? God bless
@RUFOwls5 жыл бұрын
If you continue listening at the 36:31 mark another questioner asks her to clarify the statement that "the Bible got that wrong." Hope that will help
@mlelder722 жыл бұрын
A lot of good stuff. Question about min 31:00 - what do you mean by "The Bible got that wrong"? - regarding slavery. Do you mean the Bible is wrong or that there are examples in the Bible of people doing wrong regarding slavery and many other things.
@mlelder722 жыл бұрын
never mind, asked and answered. Thanks
@davevandervelde4799 Жыл бұрын
It seems that all the issues we discuss now must start with a definition of the terms used. I have had discussions regarding God sovereignty with fellow believers and realized later the other person did not understand it the way I did. The word homophobic is a made up word used as a pejorative to describe people who have a belief that homosexuality is wrong. I believe it is wrong, and I have had to deal with it in my own family. I am trying to learn as much as I can so I do not make the same mistakes I have in the past. I have watched at least 8 videos of Rosaria and this may be the best to learn from however, I think the term homophobic is not a word that is helpful to clearly understand and discuss this issue. She did say that homophobia is also a sin but it would be helpful for her to define the term in the context she used it. I hold to the same reformed views as Rosaria and I was feeling nervous for her and wondered how she would answer the woman "pastor' who asked a question. She handled it with love and grace.
@priscillavelazquezs Жыл бұрын
Yeah her stance on the word got to me too. I just watched her sermon on “five lies of Antichristian age” and I’m almost sure she meant the hate behind those who do HATE the lgtbt. But sin is sin and she is definitely against homosexuality.
@KM-zn3lx4 жыл бұрын
My question is are all sins equal!? God does say in NT and OT that practicing homosexual acts is an abomination ....so can someone explain this?
@dylanwagoner97684 жыл бұрын
In one sense yes. ‘The wages of sin is death’(Rom 6:23). There’s not different categories of sin(as far as I know)in the since that some sins deserve death and other sins deserve lesser punishment. All sin exposes us to Gods just wrath. Believe it or not there’s good news that comes out of this and is found in the 2nd half of Romans 6:23 ‘....but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.’
@RUFOwls4 жыл бұрын
The answer to your question is yes and no. All sins deserve God's wrath and punishment, so in that sense all sins are equal. On the other hand, there are some sins that are more heinous in the eyes of God either because of the action itself, the person who is committing the sin, or continual aggravated offense.
@leonabarkell18098 ай бұрын
The Bible is never wrong.
@leonabarkell18098 ай бұрын
You clarified your position on this. Thank you!
@suesheification8 жыл бұрын
only Christian I know with actual intellectual abilities
@GustAdlph7 жыл бұрын
Rosaria was very loving and gracious as well as smart.
@rainydaizy76147 жыл бұрын
I thank God that Intellectualism isn't a requirement for salvation!
@gkarenstratton6 жыл бұрын
That is wonderful about her and other things. However, I have come to know, over many years, a multitude of other very smart CHRISTian men (Ravi Zacharias is just one) and women who are good at explaining things, Biblical and secular, according to what God has called them to do with the lives, experiences, and gifts He has given them. I do especially love the Godly love HE has given her for people, whom God has created, and for God and His Word ... manifested in how she peaks respectfully and kindly to CHRISTians AND unbelieving dissenters, in fact came here knowing that would occur.
@stidwell91 Жыл бұрын
You probably know few Christians.
@stpiter6116 Жыл бұрын
Please explain why you left the one Holy Apostolic Catholic Church founded by Jesus Christ
@jesuisravi Жыл бұрын
When smart people say not necessarily smart things....
@jsigur157 Жыл бұрын
I have spent the last 15 hours listening to Rosaria Butterfield videos and have heard her testimony from 8 years ago as welll as her evolving testimonies coming closer to this year (2023). I consistent theme within her testimonies is her lesbian lifestyle prior to conversion My problem is there is no information concerning Rosaria that validates her prior lifestyle, no pictures with lesbian friends sporting butch haircuts, and no videos where she offeres her LGTQ world view. Either all the infor has been removed or her claims her fictitious Can anyone point me to a place that shows her prior lifestyle?
@michaellemmen9 ай бұрын
Wow
@Kinglovesyoutodeath9 жыл бұрын
"haha if your sin doesn't feel good, you're not doing it right"
@jamespembleton26665 ай бұрын
How has the Bible gotten anything wrong? Any perception of wrongness comes from our sinful point of view. Slavery was a fact of a culture/society of sin. Not because God said it was okay, but because of sinful man. He told us (and still tells us) how to deal with the reality of life in a sinful culture/society in a way that was and is pleasing to him. Ultimately we have freedom in Jesus and that we are not to perpetuate sin in any.
@RUFOwls5 ай бұрын
There have been a few questions about her statement the Bible got that wrong at the 31:00 mark. If you continue listening to the 36:31 mark another questioner asks her to clarify the statement which she does adequately.
@1944wesley10 ай бұрын
How can you say the Bible got it wrong about slavery if you also say it's inspired by God? I was very surprise at that comment.
@RUFOwls10 ай бұрын
There have been a few questions about her statement the Bible got that wrong at the 31:00 mark. If you continue listening to the 36:31 mark another questioner asks her to clarify the statement which she does adequately.
@acalvert3658 жыл бұрын
The Bible got it wrong?? That comment concerns me greatly...
@suesheification8 жыл бұрын
watch the rest, she clarifies
@KevinHash8 жыл бұрын
46:00 is the clarification
@Cliff_Simon8 жыл бұрын
Overall she did extremely good, with this one part, I think she afterwards clarified okay, but her answer could have been better. God gives His people wisdom that work in whatever social structure the powers that be have in place, and when we rely on God's wisdom, do things His way, things can turn around. Case and point slavery in the first century. Submit to your masters....etc...etc... Because of the Christian influence, it eventually got to the place that it was more beneficial to be a slave than free. Now that happened not because of force and revolt, but because of God working through His submitted people, and the Christian influence as salt and light in a dark, self destructing world. Anyway, we are not experts on everything, and we all can't answer every question the very best way. I really like how she did!
@fayelewis54767 жыл бұрын
Exodus 21:16 "He who kidnaps a man, whether he sells him or he is found in his possession, shall surely be put to death." Slavery almost invariably involves kidnapping.
@scotth92275 жыл бұрын
Context is people in the Bible made a lot of mistakes (sin) and got things wrong. In addition, people who have interpreted the Bible over the years have certainly gotten things wrong!
@mathete99687 жыл бұрын
Rosario's comment on slavery and the Bible getting that wrong is completely mistaken and simply wrong! The Bible neither condones nor promotes slavery. In the New Testament the Bible affirms the Moral Law and our duty under it in the context of the existing State (the Roman State in this case). Under the state, there were already existing laws permitting slavery. That is fact. The Roman state inflicted cruel punishments too. The Moral Law does not interfere with existing Laws. It simply urges and enjoins the individual to do their duty under it, whether slave or free. Therefore, Scripture does not overthrow institutions of men. It does require us to live righteously in this world and fulfill our duty. However, the spirit of the Gospel is seen in Galatians and in Philemon, particularly, regarding slavery. In Christ (and only IN CHRIST) there is neither slave nor free. That is the true spiritual reality for all those baptised into Christ (Galatians 3:27). But as regards this life, there are roles that God calls us too, whether husband, wife, child, employee, slave or free. Such opposition to the biblical references to slavery frequently reveals a spirit of antagonism to humility that God desires to work in Christian hearts. OF course Paul by the Spirit of God talks about using liberty if one may be made free. God is not advocating slavery, but recognizing that those under the institution owe service to their earthly masters as to Christ. In fact, all Christian service ought to be performed as unto Christ, and in the original language of the New Testament (Koine Greek) the apostle Paul describes himself and all Christians as slaves of Christ (nicely translated as servants). Even Jesus came not to be served, but to serve and give his life a ransom for many.
@rainydaizy76147 жыл бұрын
Did you listen to the entire video? She later clarifies that the Bible didn't get it wrong, but those who used that passage of scripture to condone slavery got it wrong.
@mathete99687 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your question, Rainy. I will assume you are genuine in your intentions and will answer accordingly. Yes I did listen to the video. Her comments were absolutely wrong, as regards slavery. I do not say she is wrong in everything else. Quite the opposite. I have a lot of respect for her brave and frank testimony. I have witnessed homosexual conversion myself, and seen the power of the Divine Word first hand - the only true liberation of all mankind. I also noted her later capitulation which was somewhat inadequate and unclear on this matter. It would have been better to simply admit she was mistaken earlier and to affirm what Scripture actually does say. However, in fairness she is a brave public speaker facing a hostile audience on a frequent basis. And, whilst she has developed a jointly diplomatic and humorous style of response to the majority of ill aimed attacks upon herself, the fact still remains that some of her responses to questions fall short of a truly confessional Christian response. I like to think her occasional mishandling of Scripture is more about the pressure she faces in a public forum rather than a reticence to stand on Christian doctrine. Notwithstanding, I DEFEND my original comments because they were based on truth and objectivity. They needed to be expressed. I am not against her. Rather I applaud her conversion, courage and candor. I would that more people would be like her. For the record, I have also had to speak in public settings to a hostile audience, and I know the kinds of intimidation that audiences attempt to impose either wittingly or unwittingly. It is part of the deliberate indoctrination that is rampant through "education", particularly in western nations. Scripture cannot be used to condone slavery, but what is clear is that Scripture both recognized and does recognize existing states wherein slave holding institutions exist. In those states it calls upon those who are slaves to accept their duty to their masters as unto Christ. That this is difficult for a generation such as ourselves, does not negate the veracity of it. It is still the will of God that slaves serve their masters with honest labour, irrespective of how they were first enslaved. We know this for the simple reason THAT IT IS DIVINELY COMMANDED. Am I for slavery in any way shape or form? Absolutely NOT! Nevertheless it is not our business to allow subjective opinion to usurp in matters of divine rule. It is largely due to the civilizing influence of Christianity that slavery is virtually non-existent today. A prime example of this is the famous preacher John Newton who later influence the British Prime Minister of his day to work towards its very abolition in that state.
@mathete99687 жыл бұрын
If I understand you correctly, I think you raised an excellent point. The vast majority of the professing church does not handle Scripture correctly. For this reason the visible church is rife with error. Yet, this is disobedience on a grand scale. The Lord through Scripture teaches us how to handle Scripture: It is through EXPOSITION of texts and not by "INTERPRETATION" that Scripture is rightly handled. The Apostle Peter states: "If any (man) speaks, let it be as the oracles of God" (1 Peter 4:11). In other words, If any person presumes to teach or present anything in God's Name, It must be consistent and true in every respect to the very Words of God. This is nothing new, however. In Jeremiah 23:28 God outlines this principle: "He that has my Word, let him speak my Word faithfully". Conversely, Peter admonishes that "No prophecy of the Scripture is of any private INTERPRETATION" 1 Peter 1:20. Rather, In the days of Nehemiah (8:8) they read the word of God distinctly and then "Gave the sense (EXPOSITION)" . Using ALL the Scriptures (Moses and the prophets), Jesus himself EXPOUNDED the things concerning himself (Luke 24:27). We also see the noble example of the Bereans who daily searched the scriptures to attest whether the preaching of Paul was truly in accord with the Scriptures (Acts 17:11). There are many principles of hermeneutics found in Scripture. They are not difficult t understand or follow. Moreover, in all Scripture exposition, the rules of grammar apply; especially those of the original languages. This follows from the fact that God has chosen to communicate by the languages of Hebrew and Greek. Without the normal grammatical usage of these languages, all communication would break down as it did at Babel. so exposition MUST also be grammatical. Whilst there are occasional subtle nuances that are peculiar to literary genre and linguistic uses particular to the original languages, the clear meaning is often very apparent in faithful translations like the KJV (But certainly not in modern English translations which depart from the text frequently!). A little reflection and these principles of exposition will become perfectly clear. To that end I suggest the work of Fuerbringer on Hermenutics (1924). It has been around for nearly 100 years and is still an outstanding work on this topic.
@anthonybarber38722 жыл бұрын
Go get em tigress!
@everettlunday88557 ай бұрын
How dare Rosaria assume the presuppositional apologetic.😅
@ryr1974 Жыл бұрын
She also is evasive and deceptive about the teachji9ngs of the bible on slavery. Obviously the Bible is teaching principles about slaves and how they are treated. Once she decides to say well that is not the real message of god that was god trying to make the most of what was a reality in their word. But that all provides a model for how we should approach homosexuality. I am pleased with how nicely people handeled the conversation and the differing opinions.
@jeffp12893 жыл бұрын
She makes dodging a question an art form!
@Axisearth2 жыл бұрын
she never dodged a question, not once.
@msilver4888 Жыл бұрын
or you don’t like how she answered the questions
@thefatking31544 жыл бұрын
The Bible got it wrong!? What? Can someone tell me exactly what she means by that? She confessed that she believes in inerrancy earlier in the Q&A so what gives?
@RUFOwls4 жыл бұрын
She later clarifies that statement in her address. She was using that phrase in a pejorative fashion. Another questioner asked her to clarify that statement which she did. Thanks for asking.
@hughsomers7989 Жыл бұрын
You have read the bible many times through, what are your impression of Numbers 5? Some see the ingestion of the potion forced upon a woman as inducing a miscarriage!!
@AshkenaziChristian9 жыл бұрын
"Based 'off?'" Don't you mean "based 'on?'" Further, I was NOT comparing medical books TO the Bible. I was saying you have to READ them, and not merely "look" through them. You make many statements which you do not back up with facts. End of discussion.
@christistruth7053 жыл бұрын
She lost me 30 min in when she said “the Bible got it wrong” in talking about slavery. To say the Bible “got it wrong” is to say God got it wrong. The Bible did not “get it wrong.” The point of the Bible was not to correct social injustice of the time. The point is to teach God’s people how to be holy in a world filled with sin. Paul was not going to eradicate slavery. But he taught slave masters how to treat their slaves and vice versa, how slaves should respond to their masters. Read the letter to Philemon about Onesimus. And in fact, to eradicate slavery is then to take away the analogy of people being slaves to sin or slaves to God. So whether we’re slaves to man, slaves to sin, or slaves to God, we are slaves to something or someone. To try to eradicate slavery is to misunderstand the Bible and who God is. Edited after listening further. She clarified her statement.
@kathyporter99352 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment, you are correct and very well written. With that said, I truly appreciate Rosario’s ministry, she’s so gifted and so brave.
@dorendastackhouse8942 жыл бұрын
She apologized for misspeaking and clarified that the bible got it right at mark 37 and mark 46
@Axisearth2 жыл бұрын
she clarified her statement TWICE
@ubervirtuoso9 жыл бұрын
You know what I mean, come on who are trying to fool? You made an indirect comparsion saying you wouldnt want your md looking through his medical books like me supposedly reading through the book to make an argument. I don't see you backing anything you're saying with actual facts. Your argument is a poor excuse of defending religion. Some people are smart enough to tell when religion is harmful without reading the Bible at all, that's how bad its gotten. Don't run off over differences.
@janinevanreenen94702 жыл бұрын
Please expound.. “The Bible did get that wrong, you’re right.”
@RUFOwls2 жыл бұрын
There have been a few questions about her statement the Bible got that wrong at the 31:00 mark. If you continue listening to the 36:31 mark another questioner asks her to clarify the statement which she does adequately.
@scapps8173 Жыл бұрын
I am concerned that so many children must identify as something. Just grow up and be something. Be a decent person. And yes, read the Bible. The answer to every problem is in the Bible. And stop with all the new made up identities. You are just confusing yourselves needlessly.
@ThomasCranmer195910 ай бұрын
Sinful thinking is sin.
@stickytoffeepud110 жыл бұрын
Why? Please justify this comment.
@mathete99687 жыл бұрын
The vast majority of the professing church does not handle Scripture correctly. For this reason the visible church is rife with error. Yet, this is disobedience on a grand scale. The Lord through Scripture teaches us how to handle Scripture: It is through EXPOSITION of texts and not by "INTERPRETATION" that Scripture is rightly handled. The Apostle Peter states: "If any (man) speaks, let it be as the oracles of God" (1 Peter 4:11). In other words, If any person presumes to teach or present anything in God's Name, It must be consistent and true in every respect to the very Words of God. This is nothing new, however. In Jeremiah 23:28 God outlines this principle: "He that has my Word, let him speak my Word faithfully". Conversely, Peter admonishes that "No prophecy of the Scripture is of any private INTERPRETATION" 1 Peter 1:20. Rather, In the days of Nehemiah (8:8) they read the word of God distinctly and then "Gave the sense (EXPOSITION)" . Using ALL the Scriptures (Moses and the prophets), Jesus himself EXPOUNDED the things concerning himself (Luke 24:27). We also see the noble example of the Bereans who daily searched the scriptures to attest whether the preaching of Paul was truly in accord with the Scriptures (Acts 17:11). There are many principles of hermeneutics found in Scripture. They are not difficult t understand or follow. Moreover, in all Scripture exposition, the rules of grammar apply; especially those of the original languages. This follows from the fact that God has chosen to communicate by the languages of Hebrew and Greek. Without the normal grammatical usage of these languages, all communication would break down as it did at Babel. so exposition MUST also be grammatical. Whilst there are occasional subtle nuances that are peculiar to literary genre and linguistic uses particular to the original languages, the clear meaning is often very apparent in faithful translations like the KJV (But certainly not in modern English translations which depart from the text frequently!). A little reflection and these principles of exposition will become perfectly clear. To that end I suggest the work of Fuerbringer on Hermenutics (1924). It has been around for nearly 100 years and is still an outstanding work on this topic.
@suesheification5 жыл бұрын
What is exposition.
@thewordsofmytestimony9 жыл бұрын
Exactly. But someone needs to address her about yoga pants...do she does yoga and if she does, why?
@Loleeone2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly!
@levibo8810 жыл бұрын
Generally, I believe you attack people all the time, you're just lying about it, because no one just says that someone else is "completely full of >>>>" without having hatred in their heart...
@keithwilson606010 ай бұрын
“The Bible got that [slavery] wrong.” I have a serious problem with that statement. You’re advocating for cafeteria Christianity.
@RUFOwls10 ай бұрын
There have been a few questions about her statement the Bible got that wrong at the 31:00 mark. If you continue listening to the 36:31 mark another questioner asks her to clarify the statement which she does adequately.
@keithwilson60609 ай бұрын
@@RUFOwls Sorry, but I can’t gloss over the statement that the Bible got something wrong.
@RUFOwls9 ай бұрын
Given the context and Rosaria's later clarification, it's clear she was using the argument of an unbeliever "the Bible got it wrong." It's pretty obvious she doesn't believe the Bible got it wrong.
@ubervirtuoso9 жыл бұрын
Really? You're comparing medical books, which are based off scientific knowledge and usually have extensive research to back up findings, to the bible, a 2,000 year old book that has multiple unnamed authors, and stories that don't have much backing besides faith. Please do not belittle my argument by saying looking through the bible is not enough, I can assure you that I was forced to read through the Bible multiple times throughout childhood as required for school, both the Old and New books.
@goyonman9655 Жыл бұрын
1+1=2 is older than 2000 years old Doesn't make ut any less true
@dallenwade Жыл бұрын
You are conflating factual information with truth. I can take facts (a description of observed reality) and recite them with my biased interpretation. That could result in varying degrees of truthfulness. Pre-1970's the DSM said homosexuality was a mental illness. What changed? Political pressure.... which in turn pushed societal morals and biases. Two people can witness the same event, more or less agree on the facts, but disagree on the "truth" of what happened. There's a saying, " The grass is always greener on the other side", and another, "Don't judge until you have walked a mile in their shoes". Rosario would tell you this, because it's in her testimony, until you surrender yourself to something fully, you can't truthfully understand it. You have little room to judge something until you are up to your neck deep into that thing. What is threatening to many is that Rosario has made a choice about two different ways of being (no, not gay vs straight): Pagan vs Christian
@ubervirtuoso9 жыл бұрын
I liked the way Dr. Butterfield buttered up her audience by not fully addressing peoples' questions.
@Axisearth2 жыл бұрын
what question did she not answer?
@d.m.14212 жыл бұрын
"The Bible got that wrong" when talking about slavery (29:52 and reconfirmed at 31:10). God's word is not wrong and did not get anything wrong as God doesn't make mistakes. I cannot believe you said that. Later (36:45), you clarified what you meant because one asked you to. Next time, do it right away; I nearly stopped watching.
@RUFOwls2 жыл бұрын
There have been a few questions about her statement the Bible got that wrong at the 31:00 mark. If you continue listening to the 36:31 mark another questioner asks her to clarify the statement which she does adequately.
@d.m.14212 жыл бұрын
@@RUFOwls Which I stated as much in my comment above prior to your reply. I was just saying she needs to be clear right away just in case no one calls her on it. I would've gone on thinking she believes that if she wasn't asked to clarify. I think she's great to listen to.
@robertlehnert41484 жыл бұрын
Dr. Butterfield is a Calvinist, of the "Assured Salvation/Once Saved Always Saved/Perseverance of the Saints, but uncertain if she's of the full blown Calvin TULIP confession that flat out promotes, much as Islam, a double predestination,; meaning God from all eternity has chosen those he saves and those he damns. But let's leave double predestination aside, though it's use was the only way Calvin could justify absolutely assured salvation. Problem is, even in Evangelical sects, OSAS, to Rosario's, or say Charles Stanley's teaching, is not universal, or even the majority teaching-- the most common dodge being if you continue or fall into previous sin, "you were never saved to begin with". Or, to refer to Dr. Butterfield's favorite book, this side of death, you can lose your salvation by previous sin, be cut off from the Body of Christ, worse than you were before-- and then repent again and receive the Sacrament of Reconciliation, aka Confession and be back in the Body
@zach29802 жыл бұрын
Thank Rosaria's seeming fictitious God that he apparently no longer commands homosexuals to be killed. A bit of progress.
@goyonman9655 Жыл бұрын
If you believe a being is fictitious, why do you thank him Progress is a false myth
@johnprendergast13382 жыл бұрын
Hey, Rosaria I'm glad you're happy but keep it to yourself- it's a private issue ...Quit selling it as a conversion to Christianity ...
@Axisearth2 жыл бұрын
what are you talking about?
@raecoyote10 ай бұрын
🤡🙄
@Yesica199310 жыл бұрын
In other words, you have nothing of substance to add to the discussion, and so can only resort to insults, accusations with no backing, and profanity.
@ubervirtuoso9 жыл бұрын
Nope, you're statement is to sugarcoat the phrase " I do not approve of any homosexual behavior" and act like its some terrible thing, when in reality it is not a big deal and its a normal part of genetics that you shouldn't have to chatise people because of your beliefs. Besides, this is the religion where we are supposed to accept others for who we are, except for the people that "God" deems unworthy. Its like the people who wrote this had no critical thinking.
@ubervirtuoso9 жыл бұрын
Through my readings of the Bible, I came into contact with multiple stories that contradicted the message of Christianity, and it gets worse as you read more of the Bible. I know you are a born again Christian, but it doesn't seem as though you've actually read the whole Bible and questioned it at all, so maybe you should do some critical thinking before arguing with me on this subject.
@goyonman9655 Жыл бұрын
The message of christianity comes throygh the bible So your comment is moot
@ubervirtuoso9 жыл бұрын
All of these video's I've seen of the convert, is that she dodges questions that would pull up contradictions of the Christian faith. It's surprising that if you actually look through the Bible, and do some critical thinking about the subjects presented, it shows numerous fallacies that don't make any sense which way you can put them. The belief that faith can just solve problems is pretty harmful and is ignorant, because in actuality nothing gets accomplished by faith.
@nadaalonso6 жыл бұрын
ubervirtuoso please post the contradictions of the Bible?