UP 3985 pulls the Ringling circus train Cheyenne to Denver 09/28/2010 ©

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Also, check out my video of UP 844 in HD! at: • UP 844 "Valley Eagle h... Southbound on the UP Greely sub from Cheyenne, Wy. to Denver, Co., the UP 3985 Challenger back out on the rails after 2 years of maintenance and rebuild. Pulling the Ringling Bros. & Barnum and Bailey circus to commemorate the 140th year, and the 200th anniversary of P.T. Barnums birth which was July 5, 1810! Also, this is the first leg of the "Missouri River Eagle" tour. Tags: Railfanning NS UP KCS CSX CN CP BNSF FXE AMTRAK SP WP CNW E8A 40-2 Metrolink Metra EJ&E SD38-2 Sw1500 MP15AC MP15DC Conrail GTW Santa Fe Burlington Northern Gp 38-2 39 SD 40 45 50-2 60 SD70MAC SD70ACe ES44DC 30-7 40-8 32-8 DASH9 ACC45TE 44CW SD9043Mac mkt ssw cotton belt dgno tner hlcx necr llpx gmtx svgx kiamichi rmpx railamerica intermodal grain manifest barfbonnet heritage nafta 1982 1983 1988 1989 1995 2001 2002 4575 9647 2010 3985 844 7400 8444 ©

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@BNSF700 13 жыл бұрын

that is history right there!! A 1st time 3895 and RB&B circus train! Awesome!

@WestTxTrainman 13 жыл бұрын

Great work Brad. Been a while since I've seen her. Definitely 5*s. Thanks for sharing!

@That_Thicc_Cat 3 жыл бұрын

I love how 3985 was able to pull that long of a train at that speed with ease lol

@stuartk.9104 2 жыл бұрын

2nd train video I've seen you comment on

@jayfmiller 6 жыл бұрын

I just came across this wonderful video. The power of steam at speed! Look at the length of that train with only one diesel helper Listening to the engine sounds I could hear it saying, "Piece of cake."

@Lightwolf333 13 жыл бұрын

Truly awesome man. I wish I could have seen this

@up1943productions 3 жыл бұрын

Very Nice and Perfect. The Union Pacific Ringling Bros. & Barnum and Bailey Circus Train.

@TheACman42 10 жыл бұрын

Amazing footage of the 3985!

@larryrwendelljr4465 10 жыл бұрын

Super capture :o)

@TrainTrackTrav 12 жыл бұрын

Great footage! Nice to see her doin' what she was made to do, PULL LOTS OF STUFF!!!!!!! God bless!

@FabioSilva-mt9wr 4 ай бұрын

Up 3985 blows it's duplex whistle

@844jim 12 жыл бұрын

Additional comment on dynamic braking: The traction motors that power the wheels can be turned into generators with a heavy load on them; they turn with great resistance when used in this mode and that is what gives it the braking power.

@Jabond07 13 жыл бұрын

Fantastico video!

@MrFlavioValentino 11 жыл бұрын

dude a guy fell at minute 5:23 and thanks for sharing this video its great for a Steam engine that old pulling all those cars with a diesel looks more the great I should say. Thanks.

@willberestartingthischanne9984 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome Video

@FabioSilva-mt9wr 4 ай бұрын

Up 3985 está soprando o duplex whistle igual a voz da tia jana

@crail4ever 13 жыл бұрын

Great Video Brad and man i saw her here in Kirkwood and man was it a think of beauty. O btw i am going back down to Texas in December, just and FYI

@miked7137 10 жыл бұрын

Anyone else notice at 5:24 the guy running to the red SUV trip and fall down?

@TheMrPeteChannel 9 жыл бұрын

I did! hahaahaha!

@joaoricardoaraujogranzoto3050 5 жыл бұрын

Yes kkkkkkkkkkk

@thomashorner7474 10 жыл бұрын

they use the diesels for the their dynamic braking

@ZeldaTheSwordsman 7 жыл бұрын

And apparently also as tunnel motors on occasion

@unkonshus 13 жыл бұрын

@crail4ever Thanks, let me know when so i can maybe work around the holidays...

@transportationproductions1794 7 жыл бұрын

That is the longest circus train I had ever seen. An RBBX circus train is usually 5200 feet long. But this one is pulled by a giant steam locomotive and its 6500 feet long. How awesome is that?!!!

@Gabethenwr77 Жыл бұрын

Can’t wait for her to return to steam soon

@deloreanman14 13 жыл бұрын

@Olfablade - LOL. Good catch man. He really bit it.

@unkonshus 13 жыл бұрын

@bluesguitardude_Basically, the electric traction motors that do the pulling on newer engines can also be used to slow the train without actually using friction brakes on wheels as the primary way to stop a train. Steam engines dont have electric motors, so w/o a diesel to assist in power and braking, the friction pads on the steamer stopping a full length train would be a risk by todays standards.

@Howard1939 13 жыл бұрын

The diesel is required for primarily for keeping the brake lines charged & used for grades, IIRC it's controlled from a control stand in 3985.. It's the same deal when SP4447 runs excursions on BNSF in the NW, sometimes added insurance is a privately own former Amtrak F40PH

@minecraftgonewild184 10 жыл бұрын

Well,look at you Mr. Know it all

@FabioSilva-mt9wr 4 ай бұрын

Janice templeton as up challenger 3985

@wolfen216 11 жыл бұрын

well Union Pacific has video's on their youtube page that used a helicopter too.

@AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014 2 жыл бұрын

Nice a former SP unit in one of the shots

@carsey51 11 жыл бұрын

that diesel was not needed there is video floating around with 3985 pulling 143 car long stack train in the 80's just by it's self. im sure they added just as a precaution. She is strong enough to handle this dinky load on her own. looks up "UP Challenger #3985 + 143 Freight Cars"

@Texassince1836 5 жыл бұрын

At freight speeds though. To maintain passenger speeds this train would have had a pair of 3900s on it back in the steam era

@Elfnetdesigns 5 жыл бұрын

Those modern passenger cars require 3 phase 480 volts AC also, the steamer cannot generate this, so we get it from a diesel electric locomotive or generator cars.. RBBX did have generator cars but since UP had theirs on this train and other railroads provide a locomotive for HEP, RBBX did not use their own power cars often..

@quizzyboi2320 6 жыл бұрын

Wait until you will see big boy 4014

@Boxpok 6 жыл бұрын

Bonnie SFM Yes but the Ringling Brothers trains are gone

@stevew270 4 жыл бұрын

@@Boxpok Yep and it's highly doubtful we'll ever see the Big Boy do anything like this.

@brandonburneyt2931 Жыл бұрын

Why is there a desiel there

@transportationproductions1794 4 жыл бұрын

I heard other steam locomotives have pulled a circus train: Grand Trunk Western 5629, Chicago, Burlington, & Quincy 4960, Chicago & North Western 1385, and Soo Line 1003!

@johnthatcher946 10 жыл бұрын

they removed 4 diesels in Cheyenne and 3985 was definitely working hard. This was the last major run for 3985 to date. Last time Steve Lee sat as engineer as well.

@DASCO2136 3 жыл бұрын

What turned out to be the last major trip that she would pull before her retirement

@dwkcamman611 13 жыл бұрын

AWESOME!!!

@unkonshus 13 жыл бұрын

@09JDCTrainMan_Well, we are talking about a record breaking 65 car consist. The diesel was pulling too, not sure it was absolutely needed, there are lots of mtns on that route, maybe dynamic braking more than anything

@stevenmichael2845 9 жыл бұрын

The shot at the end, is that taken from blue mountain road?

@Cnw8701 12 жыл бұрын

That former SP GP40's in excellent shape!

@danielnieto3467 11 жыл бұрын

super video,,

@Olfablade 13 жыл бұрын

I like the guy running and falling down behind the red Ford Expedition @ 5:25

@md200458 11 жыл бұрын

super video

@pkat 13 жыл бұрын

@bluesguitardude Think of "dynamic braking" as an electronic form of downshifting. The electric motors that drive the wheels have their polarity reversed electronically turning them into generators. Giant resistors inside the locomotive (generally in the very top towards the back) are used to put a load on those generators, because a generator with a heavy load is hard to turn. This slows the locomotive down without using the wheel brakes.

@unkonshus 13 жыл бұрын

@cwckdh This was her maiden run from a 2 year service layover.

@easyamp123 12 жыл бұрын

@TrainsCDG she's a running, check 2:30 to about 2:35, you can clearly hear the GE.

@1940limited 9 жыл бұрын

3985 sure looks beautiful in this video the way it's all nicely painted and shiny. Will it ever run again? Should I assume it has enough power to pull the circus train unassisted? Too bad the diesel is stuck in behind it. That detracts from the appearance of the train, but I guess it's an insurance policy. Or maybe it was needed for extra power? Thanks for posting this video. I enjoyed it!.

@FabioSilva-mt9wr 4 ай бұрын

Up 3985 rb&b circus train

@Olfablade 13 жыл бұрын

I like the guy running and falling down behind the red Ford SUV @ 5:25

@Guillotines_For_Globalists 5 жыл бұрын

That's a lot of carnies right there. Spooktactular! Are all of the animals on that train too?

@FabioSilva-mt9wr 4 ай бұрын

Up 3985 going to circus train

@FabioSilva-mt9wr 4 ай бұрын

Up 3985 goes to circus

@unkonshus 13 жыл бұрын

@mbtech2003 it held though!

@WorldOfNothin 13 жыл бұрын

if I counted right, you have 2 extra tenders, a diesel, and about 65 cars lol nice train

@thesaint0358 6 жыл бұрын

What’s the name of the news the the helicopter is flying in

@coreyk4916 11 жыл бұрын

Anyone see the guy bust his ass running up the hill at 5:24????

@09JDCTrainMan 13 жыл бұрын

What's with the diesel, she has 2 auxiliary tenders behind her.

@FabioSilva-mt9wr 4 ай бұрын

Up 3985 high speeds fast

@SkipW 13 жыл бұрын

@dnickl26 Sand Creek from the south side of the I-270 embankment is choice spot

@70judgeman 12 жыл бұрын

Did anyone notice at about 5:23...the guy running biffed by the red Expedition!?! Good stuff! Slow down buddy...you already missed it!

@easyamp123 12 жыл бұрын

@unkonshus On steamers you can move the reverser to a negative position with respect to locomotive direction and get a slowing force without using the brakes similar to dynamics. An engineer would rarely use the loco's brakes (independent brakes) to slow or stop the train, he/she would use the brakes on all those cars behind it for that. Dynamic brakes are also not just on newer locos they appeared as far back as the 1900's on electric trams and the 40's for U.S. diesels.

@Texassince1836 5 жыл бұрын

Reverse steam was not routinely used on 3900s and 4000s from what I understand. They used the independents to stop trains to bunch up the slack to allow for easier starts when the train was this heavy

@oldeagle1911 12 жыл бұрын

@09JDCTrainMan Well, I think the Diesel is just a helper.Surely UP 844 would look better.The two tenders are water-tenders for 3985.They are usefull for long distance-rides,because they have no condense-tenders.

@allmightypuffn 9 жыл бұрын

as an answer to the common thread of why are there always diesels, federal law mandates that there has to be so much brakeing power for so much weight. although the 3985 is more then capable of pulling well over 100 cars, it doesnt provide enough braking power to cover the weight behind it, therefore one or multiple deisels are required to meed this rule. these weight to braking power ratios did not exist when these engines were built. its a relatively recent thing.

@renegadeoflife87 9 жыл бұрын

Its also because 3985 does not carry the equipment required for the train to interact with modern signalling and trackside safety equipment. The diesel behind her does, so in addition to boosting up the hills and braking power, they use the diesel engine to communicate with the rest of the rail infrastructure.

@transportationproductions1794 7 жыл бұрын

She did haul 145 intermodal stack cars without diesel assistance back in 1991! Making it the longest revenue train a steam engine can pull!

@NEAFarmKid4010 6 жыл бұрын

That was 1991 though, times have changed, rules have become more strict. Although I'd love to see that long of a train get pulled by her or 4014, the reality is that it probably won't happen.

@mbtech2003 13 жыл бұрын

Thats alot of weight on that bridge at 6:15

@unkonshus 12 жыл бұрын

@timetoexhaleinfl Somebody decided they needed aerial coverage of the historic event.

@crail4ever 13 жыл бұрын

@unkonshus ok will do

@arlingtontrains7 12 жыл бұрын

shot at 6:22 is awsome!!:D

@trainboy1000 11 жыл бұрын

The steamer can pull the train but the diesel is needed for electricity and air pressure.

@GoodrichTires 12 жыл бұрын

is that steam engine highballing?

@FabioSilva-mt9wr 4 ай бұрын

Up 3985 puxando vagões exclusivos para mulheres especiais 6hs às 9hs às 17hs às 20hs segunda à sexta sábado á domingo feriados nacionais

@779LR 10 жыл бұрын

3985 capable of pulling a hundred cars without any diesels, so why use them here? For backup in case anything goes wrong, maybe? Or not to strain something old too much?

@Texassince1836 5 жыл бұрын

Dynamic brakes, brake compressor, and a train that long really would have had 2 3900s on it back in the day.

@Jemalacane0 11 жыл бұрын

Why would you need the diesel for air pressure? The steam locomotive also has an air compressor.

@Texassince1836 5 жыл бұрын

A 6000ft long train requires more than 1 compressor. That train would have had a pair of 3900s on it during the steam era

@minecraftgonewild184 11 жыл бұрын

No,it was to power the coaches

@TrainsCDG 12 жыл бұрын

I dont think the diesel is under power, it dosn't appear to have exhaust. Its there merely as an extra set of brakes as challengers are quite old and mega expensive

@squach6239 7 жыл бұрын

TrainsCDG Probably wouldn't have to be much off an idle.The deisel engine I mean. Why couldn't they use like an old B-unit ?Not a lot of people would immediately recognize it as a deisel engine,you know just for the asthetic!

@Texassince1836 5 жыл бұрын

An old F9B would make an excellent companion to the steam program

@MrUp8444 11 жыл бұрын

Sigh, The Diesels are needed for #1, Dynamic Brakes, #2, Electricity, & #3, Air Pressure.. K, People?

@jeffdemition2308 6 жыл бұрын

a patched sp locomotive how rare

@Thenarwill1 11 жыл бұрын

they should've used the centennial to help pull the train

@jointlinerailfan 13 жыл бұрын

@deloreanman14 The Circus hired them.

@blackstone1a 12 жыл бұрын

or to supply head end power to the coaches

@nimrod4017 12 жыл бұрын

also you would have wear on the breaks on all the cars

@jamaicakid87 10 жыл бұрын

I think they should have used a Big Boy.....but the Challenger is nice....I had a chance 2 yrs ago to see the 844 pull the Shiloh Limited but missed it....I was sick when it came through my area.....oh well........i'm always traveling though so you just never know.

@KurtBenning 10 жыл бұрын

Dude in 2010 union pacific was not going to restoring a big boy.

@beaubourne2572 9 жыл бұрын

Kurt Benning but they are now!

@MooseJustRocks 13 жыл бұрын

NICE!! @6:15

@TrainLoverHimu Жыл бұрын

Great coverage 😍👌 Love from => Train Lover Himu

@dundonrl 11 жыл бұрын

UP 3985 makes air and electricity.. and for what, 60 years, they didn't use dynamic brakes when pulling trains, since there were only steam locomotives at the time.

@Texassince1836 5 жыл бұрын

That train would have required a pair of 3900s back in the steam era, and they'd have to stop and turn up the brake retainers before every downhill run IF they didn't have dynamics

@hermanschannel4352 5 жыл бұрын

Texassince1836 and when there was a big boy the entire trains brake shoes would smoke as the train descended the hill.

@oisiaa 10 жыл бұрын

Why do they always put diesels along with the steam? I want to see 3985 pulling by herself on a long train like that!

@Kyle-cv2hj 9 жыл бұрын

The diesels aid with the dynamic braking. Steam locomotives aren't designed for quick dynamics, which means issues when trying to slow down for tight or elevated curves.

@ccaammiinniiito2 9 жыл бұрын

Sparky Junior Thank for the education. You learn something everyday.

@thenorgalofthehills5688 9 жыл бұрын

oisiaa They are also used for head end power. They generate electricity for the coaches.

@The65MUSTANGMAN 6 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/js6Xe9V1x7SYdYk.html 3985 in all her glory in case you haven't seen it.

@paul8246 11 жыл бұрын

it iis correct diesel train there all time cos steam train have not got dynamic braking

@SkipW 11 жыл бұрын

Hired by the Ringling Circus for recording the event

@BLKdurangoTRAINhorns 11 жыл бұрын

Lol I did see the guy fall.

@09JDCTrainMan 12 жыл бұрын

@oldeagle1911 I know they are water-tenders, I'm just saying that diesels always ruin a steam locomotive's operation.

@manga12 11 жыл бұрын

yes yes yes ohhh yes, now that is what its ment to do and made for doing, I am grinning from ear to ear to see a steamer hauling ass through the west with a long freight and passanger train, no little 8 car train here.

@fastfiring 12 жыл бұрын

i play with traiins

@oleksandryshyk2009 Жыл бұрын

Друг народження 03 09 2010

@hwoods01 3 жыл бұрын

One of the last trains this worn-out, polluting, homage-to-slavery-days engine pulled. Good riddens and goodbye.

@deloreanman14 13 жыл бұрын

There is not a single video of this train on YT without that stupid helicopter ruining the shot. If I ever find out who hired it, I'll kick him in the balls.

@Angry.General1461 10 жыл бұрын

Seriously you guys are going to get angry and talk shit about each other over this train video? Damn grow up!!!!

@AmtrakSilverStar 11 жыл бұрын

Its damn Pentrex's STUPID helicopter. Pentrex ALWAYS finds a way to ruin everybody's photo or video of an event! Thats why I never buy their stupid video. That company really pisses me off!

@ccaammiinniiito2 9 жыл бұрын

I wasn't aware that the steam engine discharged so much pollution.

@stevenmichael2845 9 жыл бұрын

Remember though, the oil used as lubricant in diesels can be very potent.

@ccaammiinniiito2 9 жыл бұрын

Okay! Gotcha!

@renegadeoflife87 9 жыл бұрын

Its just good clean soot, and they are doing it on purpose for the cameras because that's the image Steam has. When actually cruising with only a couple railfans pacing it, they lean out the fire considerably to where it only has a slight haze of smoke in order to conserve fuel and keep the boiler clean.

@manga12 9 жыл бұрын

renegadeoflife87 also a good chunk of the smoke is actualy steam going out the smokebox, but yea they can run the engine cleaner when they need to