UHC when he can’t think of something else a monster eats: so there’s all these crabs in the jungle right?

Unnatural history when has to cover the werewolf and ape: ☹️

For Garangolm, I feel the arm power up gimmick should have been tied to environment. In wetter areas, it should have had water, in colder areas it should have had snow, near the castle it could have blast from buried gunpowder, stone in rocky areas, and so on. This would have better emphasized Garangolm as a “steward of the landscape”. As is, it’s just weird seeing Garangolm always get water moss on one arm and blast on the other no matter where it sticks its arms in the ground. The concept of the monster is that it’s attacking with materials from the environment, but the environment doesn’t actually matter when it’s always the same.

I like how Garangolm uses blast and water as an allusion to one story of the creation of a Golem. Really, Garangolm utilizes all four classical elements; Air (steam), Water, Fire (blast), and Earth (the giant rocks it brings up). According to this story, all four elements are required to create a Golem (the Jewish version).

You questioned, when discussing possible prey options for Lunagaron, the possible presence of pinniped-like creatures in the sea and I seem to recall in... Generations, I think, seeing walrus-like critters on the frozen map. Some Googling tells me that in Frontier there was also a large mammalian leviathan which took inspiration from walrus's and seals.

I really wish Garangolm was stronger. I don’t know what’s Capcom obsession for downplaying the size advantage of monsters but he would be pretty good if his strength was shown more (and of his fight was streamlined a bit more). His turf war with Lunagaron irks me to my core

One thing i'll say i really like about Garangolm is his roar, i really like how unique is sounds, there is something oddly primal and viceral about it

Is no one going to mention how cute baby lunagaron are in the concept art? He needs to be in stories 3 so badly

Glad I'm not the only one that thought Garangolm had only like 4 attacks it ever used

I really liked these two. Odo and Lunagaron are some of my favorite designs and I like them better as wolf monsters than Zinogre. Garangolm is cool and probably my favorite fanged beast but I wish it was a bit more threatening to both the player and other monsters.

Lunagardon is super obviously a wolf, but he’s always had very rat-and raccoon-like qualities to me. His face shape is similar to the former and the fact he holds you in his pin says a lot.

You hit the nail on the head when it comes to the European monster theme, all three of them, Dracula, Frankenstein's Monster, and Werewolves are all mainly about dealing with their humanity, whether it be part thereof, artificial, or occasionally losing them completely. That was where the charm of those three monsters are.

With lunagaron, I imagine the large tail is for balance when it stands on its hind legs. Along with the mh team wanting the 3 lords to have tri tipped tails. Edit: oh, also. Luna being in the jungle bothers me. It's a strong blue and idk how it doesn't get picked off or any pray can escape it. Which is sad cause I want to see a greater diversity of ice monsters in environments outside the ice zones.

I always thought the inspiration for the Sunbreak crew from common horror monsters were interesting. I’m just wondering if other monsters could be adapted well in future MH games

It could be that lunargaron functions like the parents of a group of wolves where the two adults will gorge themselves on a large kill and then regurgitate large pieces of the meat or other tissues for the pups to eat Edit- they could still then freeze regurgitated food to keep with lore

Garangolm just felt like a missed opportunity to finally play with a King Kong concept of a truly massive, ferocious ape and instead he's just the fire/water punchy boy who barely moves and has terrible gear. I almost hope he returns with a redesigned, streamlined subspecies or an alternative -Golm type monster in a World-style game where they can play with that concept more properly and give him the threat level a titanic, intelligent ape deserves.

These 2 are my favorite newcomers in Sunbreak, Lunagaron's tail might be for balance to help with its bipedal state plus each of the three lords have unique tails, Grangolm's for tilling the fields to be in line with his peaceful nature and Malzeno's being used as a mace or grabbing opponents.

I actually love Lunagaron. It's a sleek and elegant design that even in base form works SO much better as a wolf-type monster than Zinogre ever did with his hulking proportions. Plus, the werewolf gimmick is cool and helps him stand out as we really don't fight too many monsters that have such a difference between their base and enraged form. Garangolm is pretty cool too, I didn't mind his element arms gimmick but your idea of tool use now honestly sounds more appealing. Also I love his design visually, IMO they really nailed the "plant-based giant primate" look, and the frankenstein inspiration is a nice touch regarding the overall European theme of Sunbreak. Also, the interesting dynamic of Lunagarons being monogamous but not hunting or fighting together, plus Garangolms being strangely solitary for what seems like a pretty chill and even friendly monster, could possibly be incorporated into your MH ice age theory: perhaps back then, larger prey was abundant enough in the snowy steppe regions that Lunas could effectively hunt together, or possibly even in small packs. Alongside Tigrex, they would've been among the most common and successful predators on the steppe. Perhaps ice age Garangolms were also more common and operated in family troops like Gorillas, making them a frequent prey item of Lunagaron pairs and packs who adapted to counter their slow, heavy hits with speedy and precise strikes, explaining their surprisingly one-sided turf war (although nowadays a single Luna probably can't kill a Golm just because of all the heavy armor). Once the ice age ended, the sudden dropoff in large prey numbers, including Garangolms who switched to their lone foraging habits to avoid competing for what food was left, also forced Lunagaron packs to do the same. In the new environment that was far richer in small game, the ability to split up their hunting over a wider area became more advantageous for Luna pairs raising pups. This would also explain why Luna's described in-game as a rare monster, as this new environment isn't quite as suitable for them as the ice age habitat they evolved in. But neither Golm or Luna are doomed to go extinct like Deviljho is, because the simple switch in behavior from living in big social groups to smaller ones where they forage alone is enough to ensure their continued survival, albeit in smaller and more spread out populations.

Didn’t think Lunagaron would be aquatic but it’s definitely interesting run you down on land and sea, speaking of sea mind do Namielle next

Great video! Can't wait for when you cover the Whetfish ❤

One nice piece of lore about Lunagaron is that we actually get to see what the babies look like and how they're raised, I wish there were a few pups in the hub that we could play with. Makes me feel kind of bad hunting them knowing how wholesome their family life is.

Could you imagine a fight in these games whose main gimmick is you're fighting a whole pack rather than just a single monster? Like, not even in the same way the concept has been used already since most of the time you only get one primary monster and a bunch of underlings; a fight with an entire pack whose members are all individually about on the same level.

I like how they make Luna more human is personality like when he misses his grab he gets sad it helps with the werewolf theme

I really like Garangolm, just wish we could see more turf wars where he beats down on his opponent hard to show off the terrifying strength a giant rocky Gorilla should have.

I like to think MH1 was catalyst for my current career in biology. Feels very full circle watching these super logical analysis of all the same monsters that got me where I am today.

both monsters are fine. one of the main reasons i prefer garangolm is the fact that he's finally a new addition to rajang's gorilla like shape for the series. that shape had no new additions between MH2 and Sunbreak, a 16 year gap after the first 3 were added, those being rajang, blangonga, and congalala with the latter two having small monsters. bishaten is more monkey like ketcha watcha, it is nice that we got both in Rise/Sunbreak. the elemental fists is a bit odd/indicative of it being the more over the top portable team's handiwork. personally, for fanged wyverns or even flying wyverns, i'd love to see an apex predator tier monster that engages in pack hunting. before malzeno, with the yokai themes of Rise many of us predicted western horror monsters being used for inspiration in the expansion. my hope for a vampire monster wasn't an elder, it was a flying wyvern with wingdrake like bats as servants rather than butterflies. i would still love a flying wyvern leading a hostile wingdrake flock in the future, even more than a wolf pack like fanged wyvern of higher tier.

I like Lunagaron & Goss Garage alright, but they both feel like pared down versions of Zamtrios' ice-coating mechanic. They gave Zamtrios too many gimmicks with the ice tail ax, swimming through the ice, and the puff-up frog ball bouncing, so maybe the designers thought they overdid it.

Garan and Luna are deffinitly pretty disapointing, but i mostly blame it for the fact they are in Sunbreak, same syndrome as Glavenus really(Even tho Glavenus is actually good gameplay wise in his Debut) Garangolm REALLY could have done soo much more being the largest Ape Monster we have in mainline, same goes to Lunagaron too At least we did get a image of Baby Lunagaron, thats the cutest Baby mon i ever see

love these 2, Lunagaron more, i just feel like they handled the idea of a natural Werewolf so well it's crazy Garangolm i like but it has 1 BIG issue with me, i am not a fan of the whole split element arm thing, would have preferred a more location based form change, like int he volcano he has 2 fire fists and in the swamp he has 2 moss fists, i know this would remove the split gimmick a bit but it feels a lot less video gamey, another fix could be if they types on the arms were random that way it;s more interesting than ALWAYS having the left hand go BOOM and the right hand go splash both lacking a theme is a bit sad too

I'm not very big fans of these two but I do really like the ideas behind them. I just wish they'd been better. But maybe they can be improved in the future. More importantly though, all Three Lords are covered at last, congrats! Hopefully they bring the Orugarons into the future games so we can finally get real (mammalian) wolves, especially since they're such great monsters as well.

Lunagaron keeps the small monster populous in check while Garangolm keeps the plant life fresh and healthy

What's even worse is that Frankenstein's monster Adam was described to be more articulate, more *intelligent* than his creator, which would've strengthened the inspiration if Garang was more intelligent... A scholar in a brute's body

A great video, though if I'm being honest I think implying Lunagaron's tail is built for swimming is being a stretch. Not only is it not properly fluked nor show much musculature to really aid in propulsion, but the bottom fin splits into 2 points which only further reduces it from being hydrodynamic. The only notable thing I can imagine it's for is to act as a counterbalance for when it rears up on its hind legs, which is a rather boring explanation but the only one I can think of that fits. That said, I found myself surprised with how much I like Garangolm. I wasn't a fan of the implementation of the dual element, and for a "Frankentstein's Monster" inspired beast, I'm honestly surprised they didn't give it thunder as an element. But I guess they didn't want an actual good thunder ape to compete with their precious 2nd gen baby. How would you reimagine these two monsters to incorporate the more human elements that their original inspirations had? Personally, it made me think about what these monsters meant towards the human characters, both culturally and part of a greater narrative.

2:43 oh my god, the pups are adorable

I feel like out of the three lords Garangolm got the short end of the stick, given you hunt it once and it proceeds to stop being plot relevant where as Lunagaron and Malzeno get 99% of the dlc’s screentime, I personally did like it given that the ape monsters are probably the least represented till 5th gen decided to lump them together with the fanged beasts as one category with multiple classifications, though when my hunting party encountered it we proceeded to call it Donkey Kong

Lunagaron probably also takes inspiration from the Wasco a mystical creature with the head and tail of a wolf and the fins a killer whale probably why he has such a big dorsal fin

Garangolm is more based around the Golem,but I can see a little of Frankenstein's Monster in him too

Despite it's flaws, Garangolm is my favorite of the lords, carried heavily by gorrilas being my second favorite animal. I think the while fire side of it would've been nuch better as explained with fire herbs, and overall even having the ability to use other elemental plants as well. I do really wish it actually won it's turf against Luna, as by all accounts it should've before Luna backflips to freedom. As I think the two should be more like Gammoth and Tigrex, with Lunas hunting Golm young, prompting Golm's hostility to it and using firey plants as Luna-repelant.

Do you think you could do a video on the graboids from tremors?

Damn, do ANY of you guys like the Rise monsters? Every comment section whenever UHC does a vid on one is "Yeah it's a neat design but it's a piss easy forgettable punching bag just like every other sorry excuse of a monster in Rise. I hope they make it better in MH6.", this one included. Crazy how I see so many "The combat is the best in the entire series" compliments and then I go to this channel and people talk about it like the only monster is Velocidrome.

I hope you enjoy your break in January. After keeping a consistent upload schedule for over two years I say thats more than warranted.

Finally! Always wantes you to try to explain Lunagaron's strange nature

Cant wait to see your thoughts on Monster Hunter Wilds

First! Also a double monster video, did not expect

Lunagaron has the best cutscene in the game imo.

Land Zamtrios and Fat Rajang

They just released a trailer for a new game Monster Hunter Wilds. It looks absolutely AWESOME!

Lunagaron and of course Odogaron might be linked by a common ancestor due to how similar they look. Plus, if the Ice Age theory holds out, perhaps Lunagaron's ice manipulation could be it using its own environment to its advantage. As for Garangolm, I wouldn't say it's like an orangutan, but perhaps actually Giganthopithicus (might've butchered the name), which could explain it's size. We don't know much on the big ape's socal life much like orangutan Bigfoot, so it could be a parallel to them

I think one thing I'd appreciate, is that when you critique a part of a monster, you reference another monster that you think succeeds in that area. Like what would you have liked garangolm's shoulder pads to look like?

you know, a pack hunting monster would be interesting. Not in the great (insert) monster way. But actually the other lesser monsters being pretty close to the main monster.

Garangolm feels like one of those Rise-Sunbreak monsters that could easily thrive in a more environmental focused Monster Hunter game rather than the combat focus of its origin game. Imagine it being like Banbaro or Tigrex, where the environment dictates effects of its attacks, but unlike those two, because the strata sticks to its arms, almost ALL of Garangolm's attacks would change. Would be a lot of work, but would help a lot. Also, we need to see Garangolm tilling and cultivating patches of land to show it's an agricultural beast.

If they bring back underwater combat they should 1 make lunagaron swim and 2 make it so that it’s ice armor affects its underwater combat positively or negatively

I bet if they return their strength will be increased and we'll be complaining that they should've been like 'that' from their debuts.

I think garangolm was done dirty seeing as both frankensteins monster and the golem are intelligent but heavily focused toward there objective or task at hand so itd be nice to see in a future update if they gave him perhaps a grt off me attack where he blocks paths with rocks and maybe also do more with the plant fists maybe make them more biome dependant like perhaps he stabs his hand into the sap mire and gets a sap debuff he can hit you with andbthennmaube throw off the material hes gathered as projectiles like in his tail attack

With how mammalian Luna is, I think it should've been just a fanged beast.

I do wish that garangolm had more presence in the story, it’s role is very brief and we don’t get much to suggest this is a powerful monster especially when the monsters that come before it are literally Rathian, anjanath and goss harag. Monsters I’d argue are far harder than garangolm.

Lunagaron is a werewolf:👎 Lunagaron is a whale:👍

Have you ever thought about starting a Spotify Podcast account and putting your videos up there as well? I’ve found that your stuff is really great to listen too when I’m ubering food around, really entertaining content that doesn’t overwhelm my attention and Spotify helps with doing multiple things on one device? Not trying to sound like an expert or anything but it’s just a thought I had when I was working today

17:35 He probably would have used watermoss were he introduced in Worldborne, but alas, SunRise doesn't really do environmental interaction, like how they took out the interaction between Pukei Pukei and scatter nuts.

I would have much preferred it if Lunagaron when enraged instead of being this ice monster thing, just stood up on two legs, picked up a rock, bone or log and started attacking the hunter with it; it wpuld have at least fit more with the wolf man aesthetic it has going on.

Didn’t even know these monsters existed but im sure the video is going to be great nonetheless.

Haven't been able to play Sunbreak, but learning about the monsters this way is more enjoyable.

I wish Luna, Garangolm, and Malzeno were all treated as equal threats. I just want more non-elders that can step to elders, really. Maybe not win 100% of the time like Rajang vs Kirin, but I want them to at least be able to fight on equal footing.

I somehow missed this video when it was released but good show regardless of KZfaq's weirdness

I wonder if its more helpful to consider Lunagaron a giant raccoon rather than a wolf. Having flexible wrists for grabbing and small social groups, it makes sense to me

Every time this channel uploads I end up watching every previous video. Great content but like my free time can only take so much abuse

I didn't play sunbreak but I'm still interested.

13:46 BOB sitting right next to Garangolm eating a pinecone just to piss off UHC

5:50 Lunagaron occurs in the jungle

Another great video man. I really hope yiu do the monsters from the Gears of War series. So much potential with that.

15:20 good luck arguing that with Plato

I saw lunagaron in the thumbnail and thought it was Tobi ☠️

Wow, i thought lunagaron would be more popular, guess not. Well whatever he's still my second favorite monster next to zinogre.

Oh lunagaron is possibly interms of it's monster design and possibly it's behaveral is also inspired by the Beast of Gévaudan, a cryptic wolf that terrorized france somewhere in the 1700's.

With the mention of Luna having so many aquatic adaptations, I'd love to see a similar species (ie what Radobaan is to Uragaan, I forget the actual classification) that's a lunagaron that diverged long ago evolutionarily to become a completely aquatic predator, especially in a hypothetical MH game that brings back underwater combat

Lunagaron!!! Yeah baby!!!!!

Honestly I felt the opposite ways about the fights as you did, lunagaron was a joke to me I never felt like I was in real danger too often, now garangolm wasn’t hard but it at least hit hard when I first fought it and the armor was something I had to work around

The more I warcg UHC, the more I want a Pokémon Snap style game where instead of a Hunter, you play as a guild member going out in a Guilie suit to watch and observe monsters.

Really looking forward to seeing you analyze Zinogre someday.

If you haven't gotten around to a Narwa and Ibushi video by August 2024 I plan on Zorahing for it, if you have I guess ill have to choose something else.

I love Luna:)

Thinking about it, a monster like a decorator crab carapaceon would be really good for a monster adhering stuff to its body and then using said stuff to fight you, such as pulling an old greatsword from the junk pile on its back and wildly swinging it jokingly akin to the "knife crab" meme. Also, when you said piscine wyvern, it sound like you said "pissing wyvern" and I found that a bit silly.

When I look at Lunagaron all I see is the monsters of Crash of the Titans all melded into one

Garangolm would be better if he was just more fancy combination between gorilla and ground sloth.

I a think a thunder subspecies for golem that uses its intelligence would really sell the Frankenstein traits.

I love the Sunbreak expansion, the Three Lords are all amazing in their own type Would have been better if all 3 we're elder dragon instead of just 1, having new elder dragon that aren't big dragon that can fly would have been refreshing to see and more unique My favorite is the Lunagaron : - because he is quite unique as he change form for a werewolf - for once it looks like a wolf (the main problem with Zinogre is that he have the proportion of a body builder, the only characteristic that makes him a wolf is just the howling and that's) I hope for a rework of the armor, it looks cool yeah, but that's not what I think of an armor inspired by a werewolf, a more primal/knight would have been way better Also the pups are the cutest things ever Both fight are also a bit easy, I expected more of monsters called Lord along an elder dragon

To be honest, Garangolm fight feels really similar to Duramboros fight. Like, yeah, you fight some gigantic mountain of a monster, and yet it is surprisingly easy overall. So I guess if something looks tough, it doesn’t really always means it IS really that tough.. As for Lunagaron.. Eh.. I get what they was up for with him, but in my opinion he is just TOO MUCH mammalian looking. Like, take a stylised wolf, then replace all its fur with scales, and poof - you have Lunagaron. It’s like other end of a spectrum of meh (imo) fanged Wyvern designs, where on the other side you have things like Great Girros & Dodogama who both looks like pure reptiles, while the core idea of Fanged Wyverns of Monster Hunter is mixing mammalian and reptilian traits into something what doesn’t look like pure reptilian or mammalian monsters but a clever mix of both those things (like Gorgonopsids for example)

I think a monkey see monkey do monsters that takes things from the environment to fight you in a similar style to the weapon you bring would be worth waiting 2 or three years for

Honestly I wish Garangolm stuck with the Frankenstein theme by attaching monster parts to its body like Nerscylla.

Totally agree with your thoughts on these two. We need more grounded monsters

Garangolm always gave me orangutan vibes

Would you ever do a video on my favorite monster hunter creature, the Fatalis?

easy prey documentary

Garangolm the funni monke

I think the reason Garangolm has parts of animals that aren't apes like the hoofed back legs maybe it's because of his Frankenstein's monster inspiration as the monster was made of multiple parts of dead human bodies that he collected to complete his creation so that might explain it...

I really wish they made a theme for Luna. The lack of new monsters with new themes annoys me way more than other I think. And don't tell me it's reserved for elders and flagships because that's completely false. Goss should've gotten his own theme too like wtf.

Im pretty sure Lunagarons ice armor is there for it to balance on its hind legs since most of it forms around its tail and back

He cant handle monkey madness

Yah I do agree they aren’t the best monsters but for some reason the three lords have always been some of my favorite monsters and random question we ever gonna get a ceadeus episode?

I love the basic premise of Garangolm - the peaceful gardener ape with finite patience - but everything aside from that is pretty messy. The magma fist is definitely the worst element for me. It's too much to hope that they can clean him up for some future entry, but still... fun to dream.