14:16 Something I forgot to mention: there are plenty of non-graphic, happy images and videos that can help you feel more connected to farm animals (e.g. Esther the Wonder Pig, Crouton the Cow, the dodo)

An attack on Jenna Marbles is an attack on everything good in this world.

Being 👏🏻vegan 👏🏻is👏🏻 not👏🏻 a competition👏🏻

Freelee seems like the type of vegan that would force a vegan diet on their cat.

The AMOUNT of people who went vegan while Julien was slowly going into veganism is insane. They don’t have to make videos on convincing people. They tell us why they choose the lifestyle and MOTIVATE PEOPLE

This is the lady who made an hour-long video of her crying and apologizing because she put a tiny fish in a rounded aquarium. Leave Jenna alone she's so pure.

*Non-vegans and Vegans have come together to support our 32 year old queen*

Banana chick: “Honey is bad for your blood sugar!” Also banana chick: “Don’t be afraid of sugar! Sugar is your friend!”

I like Jenna because she doesn't shove being vegan down people's throats she makes it look fun and not so hard.

1) Jenna was vegan before it was trendy 2) Jenna and Julien are the two LEAST problematic KZfaqrs on this platform like who would even go after them?

She came for Jenna??? Hold my tea, gotta cancel my basketball game. It was tomorrow.

NO ONE insults our vegan queen, jenna. she is literally the sweetest and most caring person ever. meanwhile freelee is the most problematic bully and makes the entire vegan community look bad.

... I thought jenna’s audience was just people who either like dogs or are generally exhausted isn’t that everyone

The irony is Jenna and Julian have probably converted way more people than freelee

Freelee: Honey is bad for your teeth Also Freelee: drinks 2 litres of orange juice with coconut sugar for breakfast

Isnt refusing to consume honey adding to colony collapse? It doesnt hurt the bees at all, if anything it benefits the bees to purchase local honey because that will support bee keepers. Happy bees make honey, sad bees dont.

Jenna’s videos aren’t “revolutionary”??? Okay freeleee literally makes the same content over and over spitting the same rhetoric in every video.

Did anybody else read “32 year old lady” from the title in Jenna’s voice?

Jenna Marbles, with her low-key, no big deal veganism and overall kindness to animals AND people, does more for animals and veganism than Freelee the Bananaz Girl's snide judgemental perfection will EVER do. She is the kind of vegan who drives people to meat in reaction to her hatefulness.

I have nut allergies which I could die from, and even I sometimes forget to check the label or miss the ingredient (although nuts are usually written in bold). Like people make mistakes

Regarding the honey, I’m a bee farmer in training, and I want to clarify that we aren’t cruel to our bees in any way. They live naturally, but call our hives their home. A single bee makes 1/12th of a teaspoon of honey in their entire life, but they only eat less than a quarter of that amount. Bees produce large quantities of excess honey that they simply don’t use. We harvest that excess and use it. Bee farms like ours are the only reason bee populations are even alive today. The natural honey bee, an insect that’s absolutely essential to the environment, is dying out due to pollution and habitat encroachment. It’s the hard truth, and the only way we’ll be able to sustain the population is through controlled bee farms. The only way many vegetables, produce, and flower species will survive is through controlled and monitored bee populations. Please, if you want to support the bees, buy organic honey. It does no harm to the bees, but actually helps them massively.

If anyone says anything negative about our 32 year old mega tall queen I will be throwing hands.

I think at this point freelee is the vegan version of onision

Why does FreeLee talk like being vegan is a personality trait

Julien is the reason I am even working towards veganism. I always had that stereotype in the back of my head that vegan food is gross and bland but the stuff Julien makes looks hella delicious, sometimes even more delicious than the non-vegan equivalents. Freelee was the reason I vehemently opposed veganism when I was younger.

As a 26 year old lady who's hasn't missed a jenna marbles video in years I am offended that she called jennas content mind numbing lol. Glad I don't follow the banana broad

"Her diet is full of fried foods! So unhealthy!" Bold words coming from a woman who adds a table spoon of sugar to her fruit juice

People who believe consuming honey and beekeeping is immoral is willfully ignorant to how beekeeping works. I have been keeping bees for months now and I’m constantly learning more about them. There are so many misconceptions about beekeeping and it’s very frustrating sometimes. Here are some examples of things I’ve learned since I started beekeeping: 1. *Smoking bees* is NOT harmful for them. Obviously you don’t want to light a campfire under the hive, but a few puffs of white smoke to mask their alarm pheromones is beneficial for both the bees and the keeper. Bees communicate through smell, and if one bee thinks there’s danger, she will alert other bees to attack. The smoke disguises that smell and drives the bees back down into the hive so they aren’t crowded at the top. I usually don’t even have to smoke my bees, they’re usually docile and I can read their body language to know if they’re getting upset. 2. *Some bees get killed in the process* but it isn’t dozens all at once. We’re very careful not to squish them, but it is inevitable that some will die here and there. It hurts my heart when it happens, and I try to avoid it to the best of my ability. What we do for the bees by inspecting their hives and make sure everything is running smoothly makes up for the fact that some may perish in the process. It’s in the keeper’s best interest to avoid squishing the bees. 3. *Honey bees are competition for native bees* (depending on where you live), but there are ways to increase native populations of bees too. Non-honey producing bees are just not profitable (although they do a better job of pollinating) compared to the financial benefit of selling honey. But many beekeepers have native bee houses as well as honey bee hives, and it’s a growing trend even among non beekeepers. They’re very easy and inexpensive to make, and there’s hardly any maintenance involved. People who think beekeeping is unethical just don’t know enough about it, same as everyone else in the world. I’m constantly answering questions from people who are curious about how beekeeping works, and I was even able to do a demonstration of a hive inspection for an audience of friends. I wish people would do their research on honey bees before concluding that honey is morally bad just because someone on youtube said it was. It’s so much more complex than *animal product = bad*

I forgot Freelee was Australian and when she opened her mouth, I immediately had a reaction to both square up and apologise for her representing us aussies.

Jenna and Julian have done more for the vegan image than most of the major vegan youtubers in recent years. They have made us look normal and chill, undoing the damage that people like freelee have done. Being vegan "in the background" instead of making it your main personality trait really shows that it is possible to be vegan and not be the stereotype I have infinate love for those two for so many reasons

Freelee constantly talking about how Jenna might be "slipping" sounds exactly like extreme religious rhetoric

Freelee is jealous, and is super obvious. Especially when she tries to belittle Jenna’s channel and audience. She dislikes the fact that Jenna is more beloved than she is. Jenna is an example of what a vegan should be. She also doesn’t force it on people or judge other people for not being vegan. She talks about it and it’s actually gotten many people into it from watching her channel. Leafy is the obnoxious and stereotypical example of a vegan that makes people not like vegans. She turns people off to veganism especially with her attitude.

"fried food is bad!1!1!!1"....says the 32 year old woman who ADDS SUGAR TO HER FRUIT JUICE

Jenna is too wholesome for this LMAO

The thing is the Jenna and Julien also eat gluten free, which is hard enough. So any effort to go animal product free should be commended in my opinion. And Julien also shows certain recipes that are suitable for him, so can also introduce celiacs who may be intimidated by vegetarianism/veganism etc.

Life as a "grown up" is nothing without play. Jenna Marbles validates my belief that we can be simultaneously grownup and ridiculous. That combination makes the shitty parts of life much more bearable. Thanks UV :)

Why does comedy on KZfaq have to be “revolutionary”? Why can’t comedy just BE comedic, without some greater message? Also, is freelee implying that Jenna’s older content (the stuff freelee used to watch) was revolutionary????

Also saying you need to watch animal torture videos to stay committed sounds a lot like cult-like emotional self flagellation.

She protecc She attacc But most importantly, She got Jenna's bacc.

Freelee: "Adopt an animal you know nothing about, that you don't have the means to properly care for, and are only doing it to prove something to yourself and not because you genuinely want to share your life with that animal." Me: "Yeah, cause that sounds vegan..."

I think it’s also important to remember that Julien is first and foremost gluten free, his options are already pretty limited and he’s checking to see if products will make him sick first before he checks anything else. And I’m sure he still felt bad for it? Idk it’s all ridiculous 😂

let's not ask the girl who said missing periods is healthy and blamed heavy menstruation solely on a "toxic diet" who is and isn't a terrible vegan

“I think she’s got a hamster” how dare you insult ad like that

Not to mention it's IMPOSSIBLE to be a "perfect" vegan or a PERFECTLY ethical person period. Like does freelee look into every brand of every product to make sure that every material is ethically and sustainably sourced? Does she research every piece of clothing to make sure it or the material it's made from didn't come from a sweatshop? Sounds like someone who is clearly reaching and obviously name dropping for nothing but notoriety and views. Edit: Someone literally commented on her "off grid shower" video that the pipes she uses aren't vegan because "plastics manufacturers use animal fat additives to improve material properties and/or to aid in the processing of raw polymers." I don't know about that but POINT PROVEN. A taste of her own medicine perhaps?

As a diabetic, her logic with sugar is scary.

There's so many adults who watch Jenna's content because we were kids & teenagers when she started on KZfaq. So crazy Freelee thinks her audience is kids when I'm positive it's majority adults.

those who don't watch animal exploitation videos regularly did you mean: *normal people*

I would bet money on it that Jenna and her boyfriend Julien have inspired more people to become vegan than Freelee.

Ughhh my mom's a dietitian and it is so refreshing how solid an understanding of nutrition science you have! Thank you for being "logical and practical," as Jenna said lol

Breaking news: Freelee stepped on an ant at some point this year. Cancel her

the amount of effort jenna & julien put into their veganism and sustainability cannot be put back by accidentally eating honey. she's acting like she accidentally ate a steak.

I got extremely nervous and worried even, when I saw freelee’s video. I tried to express my opinions but alas, comments were disabled. I think Jenna is extremely valuable to the vegan community. Since (as freelee says) “her demographic is children” that’s nearly 20,000,000 children that are hearing “vegan” in some capacity, we should be thanking her, not gossiping like old church ladies about some crackers and flavor packets.

I'm a simple girl. I see Jenna Marbles, I click.

Playing vegan border patrol is getting old. Someone, please buy that woman her own special hat and a notepad, so she can look more believeable and then let’s call it a day. Honey is not vegan, but neither is botox.

if she comin for my favourite 32 year old lady she gonna catch these hands

Maybe watching these extremely violent animal abuse content constantly is making her a little too extreme and crazy... Just maybe.... Maybe she should calm down a little, have a glass of water idk

I think I remember freelee saying non-vegans don’t deserve to live. I can’t stand her

Jenna and Julien’s videos of helping their rescue greyhound, Bunny, adapt to her new life filled with love and compassion, do a thousand times more toward promoting a commitment to animal welfare than any of the animal torture porn that Freelee promotes. And that more than compensates for a molecule of homey and another molecule of chicken stock.

We don't need a few people being vegan perfectly to make a difference, we need millions of people doing their best (imperfectly!) to make a big impact on the environment, our food supply etc.

Julien liked your video! It’s in his likes playlist on his channel.

I'm 35 and love J&J. I'm a non vegan BUT have no meat days and I am inspired by them. They are amazing.

Get a farm animal but your rescue severely traumatized greyhound that you are recently dedicating your time and heart to doesn’t count... ok...🙄

Missing honey on a label is really easy too, because unlike milk or eggs, it's not in bold letters and is usually near the end of the list.

The moment vegan preaches how HoNeY iS eViL, they lose all credibility for me. You can argue mass-harvesting is bad, but the really healthy thing we had in our diet as a species for ages? Really? Want to hear what soy does to your body or who's harvesting your cashews?

You are spot on about the mental abuse affects. She is a codependent and is magnetically attracted to narcissists. It is very sad to see.

Also, Julien has a few videos of them visiting an animal sanctuary near them where they fell in love with a cow... and adopted her. As in paid for the cow's needs until the cow passed away. But I guess Freelee can't do all of the research.

Freelee's tone gives me anxiety, lots of underlying rage. She just needs to chill.

Basically Freelee feels like that catty mean, pretty teen girl that grew up, had an existential crisis, and might "care about" certain things but at heart is still the same person. :/

What I find funny is that a couple years back we all remember Freelee making more positive videos after her and durian ended things and she talked about regretting her aggressive approach. And now she's back at it and more extreme than ever. 🙄

There’s girls out here accidentally uploading themselves beating their dogs but this girl’s going after Jenna’s ramen nails 😂

Freelee is low-key a woman version of Onision. Similar delusions, narcissism, and obsessions with the past. I LOVE Jenna's videos, she's genuinely lovely and absolutely hilarious. I'm 22.

Freely is the vegan version of Onion boy.

I LOVE THE WAY SHE COMMUNICATES THIS. SHES SO RESPECTFUL AND NICE, VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD & HONEST, LEVELHEADED AND LOGICAL. IM SUBSCRIBED

me: i'm over vegantube, why am i here, i'm not even vegan me two days later: WHO'S TALKING BAD ABOUT JENNA????

Jenna’s casual/ non-judgemental veganism has probably done a better job of inspiring others/ reducing the demand for animal products than freelee.

I bought a "Nut Only Nut and Seed" mix a few months ago without checking it was vegan (because it was NUT MIX). It had beef jerky in it. BEEF. JERKY. I took it back to the store, and the cashier was vegan. I showed her the beef jerky on the 'NUT ONLY NUT AND SEED MIX.' She was confused. I was confused. Honestly, I'm still confused.

I didn’t know Jenna was vegan. She’s cute. And wholesome. I wish vegans would quit using their diet as a way to make others feel bad.

jenna and julien have showed me u can be vegan and still enjoy great food and that u don’t just have to eat salads 24/7

Freelee wishes she could be The 32-Year-Old Lady

there is neuroscientific evidence that pain can be addictive, including emotional pain, they were mostly studying self shame and relieving your own personal trauma, but why not trauma by proxy like watching animal cruelty videos? i think that happens to some vegans, they become vegan and all they can think and talk about is pain.

How to be a healthy vegan: 1) Don't follow the banana girls dumb advise 2) Eat lots of veggies and fruit and eat enough grains and carbs (don't just eat fruit *cough* banana girl *cough*

I think most Jenna Marbles fans are actually in their 20's and 30's. Freelee just doesn't really know what she's talking about

Why I watch Jenna's "mind numbing videos" 1. Because I need a brake from my stressful job 2. Because being an adult at all times is not fun, and getting to be childish for half an hour once a week is not bad, I'd say its necessary. 3. Because Jenna is the most wholesome person I know on this platform.

There is a principle for this "dont make the perfect the enemy of the good."

clearly she isn't aware of Jenna's content, her hamster Ad died at least a year ago. just shows how out of touch Freelee is.

You know who I could see being able to watch animal torture videos every single day without experiencing burn out? Someone who lacks empathy.

"Watching animal exploitation regularly" girl that CANT be good for your mental health

She called out joey for going back to a non vegan diet. His health was suffering bc of him being vegan. He couldn’t afford to stay on the diet and she bullied him for it. Health is before anything else. If you need to back off the diet to live you need to do that

I’m vegan but freelee makes me wanna eat meat just to spite her...

I enjoy Julien's cooking videos, because it feels more like "a chef who happens to be vegan," than "a vegan chef". Making veganism seem like an incidental characteristic, I think, shifts the potential target audience from only vegans to people who like to eat.

J&J have made veganism and gluten free veganism so incredibly accessible.

who cares if Jenna's not eating vegan healthily at least shes being vegan.

25:01 People who eat meats can still be distraught over animal abuse? I'm sure this wasn't what you meant it to sound like (only non-meat eaters can be upset by animal abuse), but I raise my own meat rabbits. They are treated like pets and I know where my food is coming from. This way I don't have to support the big meat industries. I haven't tried going vegan, but i do make vegan meals every now and then just to switch up my diet. I've met some really nice and passionate vegans but a lot of them (vegans) seem to jump to the "oh, you eat meat, you're practically torturing those animals with your own hands" Snob mentality. To clarify, not all vegans are like this, I'm just agreeing with OP's 'cult' comment she made. Totally unrelated but the SD community is JUST as bad. Any mistake gets you dragged and once you've made that mistake its like you're shunned.

I have a friend who is allergic to peanuts (she carries an Epipen), and she's definitely misread labels with food that has peanuts in it. TBH she hasn't had to use her Epipen in awhile, but it's similar! And that could be detrimental to her health! So shit happens and we're human. Buuuut, she doesn't watch a lot of anti-peanut documentaries, so maybe that's why?

WOWIE.. Who even goes after Jenna Marbles? 🙄 Not saying she is above being questioned, but honestly.. She's arguably one of the most POSITIVE big KZfaqrs. ALSO LOL AT "I don't disable my comments" 😂

Thank you so much for this. I found your video because I LOVE Jenna and she and Julien are the main reason I've been vegetarian/vegan for almost a year now! I appreciate your empathy; as a relatively new vegan, I've made the "slip up" mistakes where I misread a label or was ignorant to how something was cooked, and I've made the very conscious "screw it, I'm sad, I want cheese" mistakes. While a Freelee video can be understood as a "call-to-action" from my semi-vegan brain, you make me feel "forgiven" for my slip-ups and it makes me want to continue on this journey even more. After watching this, I don't feel like there's no going back because of past mistakes, I just feel like tomorrow is a fresh start. Thank you for your compassion to all life and for your patient, empathetic heart that draws people to your message. You just made my night.

You should do a video about Jubilee's 6 vegans and 1 meat eater. There's a Freelee clone out there, and she made a LOT of people uncomfortable

i’m gonna be honest... i forgot freelee even existed 🤷‍♀️

"I don't disable my comments" OOOOOOOOOOO GET HER JADE

When I was vegan I was so brainwashed into doing what freelee said and watching animal suffering but it just made me hate life and everything.