Yeah. WTF

Exactly what in the world does that look like from the front view

Omg …I would be on my ass 12 feet in front of the foul line with no back swing ..how is it even physically possible to stop his own inertia ?? Lol amazing pin carry too

I read somewhere he actually has a physical condition that prevents him from bowling normally, what condition? I don’t know but interesting none the less

Double hAnd bowler

I was going to say the same thing. My wrists hurt just watching some of these guys bowl.

The injury will come as they get older it's unavoidable with most of those unorthodox wrist torques.

That’s so wild. The mechanics of the body movement say none of these should work but they pull it off

Man, I just let it roll off my hand as i throw it

I can't see Buturff throwing like that on the senior tour.

@Ryan Roberts wooooosh

Picturing the crowd behind you spinning like miis

Did you pick up the spare?

@@VortexStolenName whooooooshhhhh

Did you hit a turkey with the single ball?

I throw a back up ball, too. My house pro is telling me to roll with it though. No pun intended!

I also throw a back up ball, and I just now found my perfect ball currently averaging 160 :)

@@antoniowilliams4825 wonderful! What ball do you use, if you don't mind me asking?

That happened to me in golf. I had some natural "lift" in my backswing but could always get it in the "slot" on the downswing. Was a scratch golfer and became an assistant pro at a nice club. The teaching pro worked with me to get the lift out of my swing and my hdcp went up to a 6. Took me about a decade to find my old swing...by that time I was no longer in the golf business, but I did get my hdcp back down to a 2, but never quite the same. I used to bowl quite a bit so I see a lot of similarity between the golf swing and the bowling throw.

I threw a full roller for years, and averaged 190+. I was talked into switching to a conventional semi-roller, and my average dropped to the 175-180 range.

🤣

Mark Roth would take up the entire approach and kick the ball return with his foot on his throw.

I mean, he's throwing it 20 plus miles an hour outside of the 5 board. It's hard as hell to stay balanced when he's doing that.

You’re becoming fame on reddit fam.

Lmfao! Ratatouille?

New bowler here, i do that exact thing, im right handed but it spins right, and i just cant stop it no matter what, and even though my buddies screw with me, i make it work. glad to see im not alone. Lol

@@TheWildChildJr Yeah it takes a lot of practice and time to correct a throw, but as long as you're having fun, that's all that counts! The tip for me was to release the ball like I was about the shake someone's hand. It forced me to release the ball towards the inside than flat on top of my hand.

We called that a Backup Ball. It's actually a very natural way to roll the ball. I noticed growing up that many of the girls and women who bowled used the backup ball and did great. They'd hook the ball and use a lot of speed just like the ones that hooked the other way. "Hit the pocket each time and pick up spares."

Most people that throw like that practically lived in a bowling alley at some point in that lives and just developed their style through shear repetition, anyone with limited practice time could could probably never develop styles like that to such a degree.

Bowling is more of a game than a sport and I've always enjoyed playing it.

Me too! I’m blind in my left eye (except some small percentage of peripheral vision) and I’ve always felt off balance landing on my left foot no matter how much I tried to fix it. I’m the only one I know who does this but now I know someone else! lol. My current average is 153 and high game was 235

That almost sounds exactly like me. I am a right hander for everything (except shooting pool). Though I bowl right handed, I end my approach with my right foot just like Campi. I've been bowling since I was about 2-3 years old (45 now), started off a candlepin bowler. And I've never been able to properly land on my left foot. It feels awkward and clumsy, even when I've tried with a 6 lb ball. I am not a great bowler, but I've averaged 180+ on standard house shots with a 279 high game/700 high series with it. Idk.

glad to know there are others out there

I though no one goes right side on every thing 😂😂😂

Teach me your ways!

To be fair, the people highlighted in the video are professionals over a few decades. The number of people with very unique throws are rare. But, I wish you the best of luck and hope to hear improvement on your unorthodox method.

@@hellsk100 LOL, I hope you never ever criticize football players, skiers, drivers, anything. Because you can't, you suck too much at those things to have an opinion compared to pros and semi-pros. According to your own logic, that is. Normal people are aware you can have all the knowledge in the world about a sport and still not be good in it in playing.

@@hellsk100 like half of these people are professional bowlers or are in the PBA, so, silence. and im not talking about the ability of anyone in this comment section so if you wanna talk about that, it's without reason To add on, they are having fun yet you come to criticize and judge them just because they have a unique style? that's a pretty bad move

@@hellsk100 I like how you're calling people out for "not knowing the sport" in response to you saying people like Bobby Campagnale and Tim Cagle II, two PBA bowlers, are guys you'll "never see in the PBA." Cagle's been in over 60 tournaments, for crying out loud.

Truer words were never spoken!

same with the 2 handed style, osku started it in europe and then belmo started it in australia then brought it to the states. alot of ppl laughed at him and thought 2 handed was horrible and it would get him nowhere but now look at him, 2024 one of the best PBA bowlers in the world and the all time Majors winner. just because something is different doesnt make it cheating or how some ppl say bowling like a girl, or other haters hating on belmo. i been watching him since 2012 and im happy that he continued and he grew in the sport dispite the hate that 2 handers get. belmo is one of my favorite bowlers, ive been bowling for 22 years and im a 1 handed bowler and always will.

Yea kinda

I can't really blame Garber for having that style.

@@JH223BowlingVids Yeah that’s the weirdest throw ive ever seen

@@waylandquiaoit3871 It actually looked different before that injury. His "stopping" is actually a basing step. Now, you notice at the point of release, he's in really good shape! Just like Brandon Novak, his hand position, balance, everything is just like they teach it. Just a little hitch in the follow through and it could slide by the pocket.

And he came back a year later and kicked ass up and down the west coast. Plus an RPI win.

Sounds like fun.

Left handed people have no choice but to figure out the best way to function in a right handed world.

Michael Linner I was a bowler, right handed, with an insane hook, my typical approach was as far right as possible because I would ride the edge and swing in with the force of all my revs, but I was at certain tournaments hitting the ball return on my back swing, so what I developed was my own style, I bowled with my right hand, but to the left, with a clockwise spin, It allowed me to avoid the ball return and keep my hook. My home lanes closed down and the lanes I started at screwed me out of scholarships, but my last league average was a 172 with that technique. If you’re still bowling, I wish you good luck and maybe we’ll cross lanes sometime

Sounds like you're throwing a back-up ball like my mother used to do. Looks very unnatural.

@@bellofortis2020 I guess that’s the term for it, had to actually look it up. I never knew there was a term for it. Something I just did and developed on my own for my situation.

Repent to Jesus Christ “Seek the Lord while he may be found; call on him while he is near. Let the wicked forsake their ways and the unrighteous their thoughts. Let them turn to the Lord, and he will have mercy on them, and to our God, for he will freely pardon.” ‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭55:6-7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ M

I’ve bowled against him too! Guy’s a beast!! Him and my Uncle Tommy usually are some of the top contenders for the Portsmouth City Tournament every year, I’m nowhere as good as them haha. Last tournament I got to watch him bowl and he absolutely swept the field. Man’s a beast, and he makes it look too easy at times lol

He is very good. I’ve bowled against him several times. He’s a very nice guy as well. Very down to earth

Rabble Rabble Rabble

From my hometown. I remember hearing them yell over the loudspeaker at Shawnee Lanes him throwing a 300.

Bowled against him one time up at Stardust ~2 or 3 years ago but have seen him a ton. I still remember the first time I saw his approach and swing, just thinking wtf did I just watch that was amazing lol.

Ok thank you

You are more than welcome to use footage of my swing if you do a follow up. There’s plenty of it on the jr pro shop channel and some older footage on mine. My brother converted to bowling 2 handed at around 14-15 after seeing belmonte as a means to support an overly flexible wrist and generate a higher track + rev rate

@@brandondriley Thank you very much

Just to touch on your last note, I know Belmo gets all the credit but Osku was the 1st 2-handed bowler to make a TV show (04 US Open)

Hey JH 223! Were you playing bowling by Jason Belmonte Friday? If you bowled against a guy called Hustle_RAP on the Statue of Liberty pattern, then what a great win! Nice meeting you!

@@SiezetheProBowler My username is jh223 so I'm not sure if I faced you off.

Osku Palermaa won the 2010-2011 Shark Championship 173-149 over Dan Maclelland. It is the lowest score I’ve seen to win a title match on TV

@@JH223BowlingVids I think so! Irl I’m going to a league today, shooting double 200 games in a 3 game match Monday. Once again, nice meeting you!

Here's a suggestion: National television finals of the Miller High Life Classic at the Brunswick Wonderbowl in Anaheim, CA, January 15, 1983. During one of the earlier matches, Dennis Jacques defeated Joe Staton 163 to 133. This 2 game total of 296 stood as a the lowest total for a nationally televised match for quite some time. It may still be a record for all I know?

Yeah, I have no idea how they have any power at all with that, much less control. I understand how they put the spin on, but everything else is just bizarro.

That's rough. Had one year in league carried about a 180ish average and for the first part of the season didn't get above 199. Became a running joke in the league. Best 199 game, for the last shot, had left the 3, 6 and 10 pins. Only needed two to get 200. The shot looked good, thought I'd hit the 3-6 pocket, easy 200. But no, took out the 6 and nothing else. We laughed, another guy bought me a beer and we had a good time. I wasn't sure if I was cursed or not. Good times.

Decided to check this and found exactly what you were talking about kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hstdpLep0djUkWQ.html

So she just like Wayne Garber

Oh I think you meant Miki Nishimura

She's cute too. I didnt really find it that odd because she has good rhythm, despite the seeming pause. A lot of great golfers with unorthodox swings had great rhythm and timing.

I heard that she was suspended from bowling....

Those aren't insane splits lol those are very makeable

That's kind of how a friend and I started two handing in high school. We both threw one handed, but never were able to put the spin on it really good like the other guys. One day in our our junior year my friend said he tried two handed with his dad one the other day. He said he bowled a really high series and started to get a lot more confident with two hands, so I started to do it. I immediately was getting higher scores, and when I started practicing more I got got consistent. Very glad I switched to two hands. Now I just need to fill in my thumb hole or buy a new ball. I don't bowl as much any more but I'd like to go out again because it's always a good time.

True 👍

You're right technically, but for some of these people they should have consideration for the long term health effects of their technique.

Damn dude, that blows!!

I throw like Garber. 2 steps, stop. 2 steps, roll.

Mark Roth could bowl left handed.

True… but we can’t pretend that Jakob Buttruff kid’s release isn’t a broken wrist in waiting. He shouldn’t have survived more then 3 frames with that release

@@iitstre_4550 Whats more perplexing is how Butturff is pronounced Butt-truff. lmao

Legend. Will always be the voice of bowling for me.

That's exactly how I bowl.

Lot of games against Bobby in my past. When the dude is on, he's unstoppable. Usually took me 260+ to beat him in match play. Wasn't expecting to see him in my YT recommended.

Campegnale is one of my road bros. He's the king of the thin hit.

@@josephsmith5184 does he still leave 1 greek church every 2 games like he did back at Empire?

@@alinevenorion5106 everywhere else not too much. Once in a great while but not like at empire.

@@josephsmith5184 I'ma reply to this comment if I'm ever back out west so I can roll him again lmao

Where do you get these clips?

Sweet!

how bout now?

*has come

Jh223, My curiosity question I've had for years is: Why does it seem only women throw a "Back up Ball" ,a CW rotation instead the natural CCW? Even Left handed women throw "Back up Ball" opposite natural rotation.

2 handed seems so natural for me. I'm surprised it's not more popular.

Basically, Jason Belmonte achieved a lot of success with two-handed bowling. If he hadn't, we wouldn't see that many two-handed bowlers now

Man, growing up early 2000's I don't remember anyone bowling two handed. I always thought the holes were there to spin the ball. Also, my uncle used only a pinky in the thumb hole.

😂

I wonder if he played baseball as a kid, almost looks like he's winding up for a pitch.

Literally the first person that came to mind when I started watching this video.

i know this video is a year old but i just saw it, i use to bowl with lichstein on the jbt, well he was a bit older and way better than me but we were all friendly. anyhow i cant beleive he wasnt in there.

@@kenwood5535 I once subbed on his Friday night team at Riverdale Lanes 30 years ago.

Jacob is like quad jointed in his wrist

@@GrantSweatshirt Have to hook a ball a lot to score on some lane conditions. In the 90s, I taught myself to bowl with my thumb out (one handed) to get the revs I needed. I could also bowl traditional if that was a better shot for the lanes. I could take 4 balls to a tournament and it was like having 8 bowling balls. With the recent rule change, I now have to have separate balls for bowling thumb in or thumb out.

He looks like he's bowling on ice.

Pretty cool jerseys back then