I have been in the archviz industry for 20 plus years and as cool as realtime is the comparison is not a very good representation of a paid project. Most projects require more complex environments with 100's of assets and more complex shader setups. Also if you first put the scene together in Max and then export to unreal your doubling up on work. It would be interesting to see how it would handle a low rise residential project with full landscaping and high end interiors.

Thanks for creating the scene this close for both tools. Must be time taking. Great work

The huge advantage of UE is that you can see the result in realtime not waiting until the image smoothes out. Thanx for the comparison!

Thanks for this, I've been using Corona for a while and recently did an animation with Unreal 5 and was surprised how good it looks and how much faster it is.

Can we appreciate the work he put on this video , this must be the most satisfying comparison ever watched on KZfaq

Great comparison. Thank you so much for making this video!!!

the pathtracing in UE5 can get more details than the Lumen default viewport, but take much more time to render (with high details) and for the reflections with lumen, under render features there's an option to change the default reflection method to RayTraced

One the best videos I've seen since I started learning ue5 I love how detailed the explanation is. It helps in many other purposes

how does this channel have only 4.9 k subs..man this is one of the most interesting channels for learning all about the architecture

Very nice comparison !!!, really well done mate !!!, thank you so much :)

huge Thanks..!!! That's what I was searching for..!!!

Awesome and reliable comparison, I’m interested in CGI development and you motivated me to learn UE5 🔥🔥🔥

Let's goo man! Great vid Just came back to ue5 from years between since I used 4.19

The amount of extra work required to correctly bring a project from Max to Unreal is vastly compensated by the amount of content you can then output from Unreal...plus the possibility to create interactive experiences for your clients.

This video is sooo good Stan!! 🤩

Keep it up man! Your content is amazing. I would like to see more from you.

This is a great study and video. Thank you for your time and effort spent doing it.

Great video. I definitely highly preferred the quality of the reflections in the glass on Ccorona, but with some tweaking I'm certain UE5 could look even better than the corona results. Excellent video and presentation, thank you for sharing :)

Finally I found this video with a detailed comparison, thank you, it made me want to learn unreal engine more)

Cool, thanks a lot!

I use both Corona and UE5 but I am not doing ArchViz. This was a very interesting video to me, thank you! In the middle of the video I was thinking I would like to see the sources and good you have put them available too. Big thanks!

Thank you for your work and time man!) Hopefully you will share pathtracing method for same scene It Will be awesome! Because there is less videos like this Showing the real scenario usage for UE5.1 compared with Corona 9 Thank you 🤝🏻👍👍👍

Thank you! amazing video!

This comparison is awesome. Truly beautiful images. I also use UE5 for archViz, and i have made the transition from Vray to UE about 3 yrs ago when Raytracing dropped. I noticed you did not use high-resolution mode (tiling) for your images. I am using a RTX 3080, and I found that if I needed to get resolutions above 4k my card could not handle an "average medium-sized" rendering of a housing development. However, I notice that UE5.1 hi-resolution mode seems to be now broken and any renderings over 2k crashes unreal! For that reason, I have moved back to UE5.0. Have you experienced this during your testing?

Thank you for your efforts and time, Stan!!! Watch this video, I'm really love and want to learn Unreal Engine asap!!! Thank you so much and hope see more video tutorials from you brother!!!

Very nice comparison !

Cool video. Thx for this comparison)

Your job is amazing bro. Love your workflow is so clean. Just want to know why increase the light map resolution if you are using Lumen and not baking light ?

please can you make a full tutrial from A to Z for beginner and slow tutorial for full architecture project!! it gonna help us really please!!

I really like the comparison it is more detailed, unlike other channels who only scratch the surface of other software for comparison

If you consider how far Unreal Engine has come even in the last year, the things you point out here such as reflections will soon be rendered in real time and be perfect. UE is an amazing tool, for game creation, but now for renders in and of themselves. The only thing I don't use UE for is modelling etc.

Thanks for the video and hard work, never knew Unreal Engine was this good and fast.

at 6:10 there was some unreal 5 artifacts at the low edge on the ceiling, i tried to recreate it with simple cube objects, there was no light or shadow artifacts in viewport at least.

Awesome video!

Very good comparison, awesome work man. One question, the building reflections became better with Raytracing, but pool reflections were much worst, I wonder why that happened.

really interesting comparison.

if u enable RT hardware support and RT reflections, and put some tweaks into MRQ it will be much better in UE5

Nice, keep it up.

…and on top of the breathtaking timing let’s not forget Unreal gives you real time experience! You got to love it

Mate, your tutorials are on a whole nother level!

Thank you man! Great job. Too much work done to create this video. This helped me to understand generally the abilities of both tools.

Thanks for these informations

Very Helpfull

Very good content! as usual. Thank you very much! To me, as a Revit user, UE is the one and only archviz software that i used, with a lot of additional benefits from datasmith, visual dataprep, ... The production pipeline by applying them get better and better, and is being promising, as we already know Autodesk and Epic Games is working together. P/s: I think to get the best result for still(single frame) rendering image, we should use Path Tracing method.

I Agree with Joe below. I also have 20+ years experience and the time difference of setting up complex scenes in UE vs Max or even just porting from Max to UE and then setting up is much more than the few minutes/hours you are going to save on rendering - scene set up is days compared to rendering which is minutes. Furthermore there is a marked difference for me in the overall lighting quality. The soft gradients and details in the shadows is what describes 3d objects and the space to the viewer and also what gives a more photorealistic look - which is where the extra resource overhead is going when rendering with corona - ie. more light bouncing around etc. The UE renders just look brighter and more colorful in some instances but this will take 10 seconds to achieve in photoshop - cant see how some people says it looks better. The UE renders look far more artificial in my opinion in terms of lighting, and in the case of this example is relying very heavily on the quality of the models and textures of the assets being used. If it was a space with plane bare walls and generic or custom made textures (which is mostly the case in Arch Viz) then the difference would be more noticeable because there would be more reliance on lighting and high quality GI define shapes. I suppose it depends on your application. If you are not interested in the highest quality and flexibility and your clients cant tell the difference then maybe UE is the answer. I would be more interested if we could use the engine straight inside Max somehow 😅

Fantastic comparison! For exterior I would say that UE5 looks better than Corona. Super interested in you making a video of an interior scene with both engines as well😊 Keep up the good work👍

Спасибо! Отличное показательное сравнение. Вы проводите обучение archviz в UE?

HI, Stan this is great. I am on working with corona now and looking forward to use UE5. So Is there any possibility to get rid of the reflection and shadowing artifacts in UE5?

Good stuff!!!!!.

Nice comparison! What about the path tracing in UE vs Vray UE vs Corona?

Thank you ☺️

Awesome compression.

Good content. btw you can get the same Megascans result with the original source file or normal bump setting. But you need to customize Datasmith export, not the default one. The default export setting will give the result as yours. I would like to see a comparison video with Megascan quality in 3ds max and UE after you change Datasmith export and download settings (Scoure file or normap). Source file is very detailed and high poly so if you want to optimize, use corona proxy or chaos scatter. If you appreciate my suggestion, I would like to see comparasion video of Megascan quality (will be useful for the most people) .

That was really impressive. I mean of course UE can’t hold up with corona in detail but for an fast image this looks really good

Thank you for sharing your top-notch knowledge, it's amazing! I'm specializing in Unreal Engine, I shared your videos with some friends, soon I'll write to you on your patreon, it's really worth having you here!

nice share more UNREAL rendering tips and material making tips

thanks for sharing brother..

you can enable raytraced shadows for lumen, in project settings, which should get rid of the artifacts

Muy buen tutorial para poder comparar, muchas cosas. Gracias y saludos desde España :) Very good tutorial to be able to compare, many things. Thanks and greetings from Spain :)

muy interesante tu video, que bien ejercicio hiciste, gran trabajo

josss...👍👍👍

thanks for your Description

congratulations 2k subscribers in 2 weeks

gracias hermano, buen contenido mil bendiiciones desde Colombia

very good

thanks for useful information about timing any idea how much time takes Animation video in unreal 5.1 for hires building with landscape like archviz exterior project means very heavy scene ?

what was the time for both? the final render time is not the only time for that kind of comparison!

Good job bro. I'm architect and 3d artist, too. I use UE5. I will be happy if we are have more connection .

Amazing video, thank you. Do you think the days of Vray and Corona are doomed then?

так держать! (cool work!)

super bro

Cool

I always had trouble finding best reflection effects and glass materials were always difficult for me to find in the EU. Moreover, making materials for gems, diamonds. UE's weakness I think is there since UE 4. But for the rest UE, mind blowing.

Imo the workflow of UE5 is so slow that the realtime speed of it isn't really worth it e.g. you setup fairly complex exterior city scene in UE5 in 10 days and render instantly, meanwhile you can setup same scene in 3D Package in like 3 days and render in like 1 hour so you basically save 7 days of time using old 3D package workflow and get better result in that "imaginary" scenario since 3D Packages does everything better and way more efficient such as shading workflow, lighting, object/material outliner systems, animation, UI/UX, loading/processing times, etc. for example think about shading a car procedurally in UE5 vs Corona to get it photoreal using just few essential bitmaps, I could do whole car in Corona in like 1-2 hours, meanwhile it would take probably like 1-2 hours just to make basic glass or carpaint material in UE5. However huge advantage of UE5 would be for animations and likely (V)RAM usage, I guess you can throw a lot more textures in UE5 compared to Corona, etc and ofc there's Nanite.

Very interesting! I hope Unreal can figure out the reflections with Lumen to at least be able to be on par with ray-tracing... I that the pool looks better with Lumens reflections but when it comes to the glass reflections I think raytracing wins...fingers crossed they can sort this out soon and we can move fully to unreal!

the most practical and time-optimized is UE - I hope I can learn and master that too

If you want to fix the shadow issue under the roof of the front most building, all you have to do it to activate contact shadows and potentially play with shadow offset. That should solve the shadow problem completely with no side effects

Stan THE man, great video bro, looking forward for more amazing work!

Great video manh👍🏻Can you share a perfect processor for unreal engine 5

hi, I can't get rendering with the vray engine in 3dsmax, rendering can't be started even though I've assigned a light and camera, what do you think could be the problem?

Great Job, really great video, quick tip if you show comparison, when comparing the quality of images, dont divide the screen in 2 parts. Waiting for more of your video, like this content - Team 2zro

For real world purposes of architecture, where its about showing the client the renders, either will do. This level of scrutiny is only necessary if it's a movie render.

with lumen parameters you can increase the quality of the reflections, i don't know if you do it on these examples but Post Process Volume > Reflections > Method:Lumen > Quality: 2 > Ray Lighting Mode: Hit lighting for reflections

Hi. Somewhere disappeared my question and your answer. Try to make another video comparing Corona results with Path Tracer method. You will get more accurate results.

This awesome, can you make video vray vs corona/lumion/UE5 pls

In Unreal Engine 5.1 you can get better reflections. Also, always render with path tracer if possible. It will look much much better

HI Stan3DArt, can you please make video animation tutorial in 3dsmax x Corona render like you did with UE 5 "Cabin in the Rocks". Thank you

Vray is made for you. Great vid

thanks for your

"...and there's water in the caustic pool" 😳

nice

Can you please add some tutorial how to create this scene in unreal engine

Let me speak from my heart

Все равно отражения и преломления на cpu выглядят лучше. Но, unreal 5.1 очень хорош. Уже близко подобрался по качеству к corona. Да и время переноса в unreal тоже надо учитывать в реальной работе.

in corona can render it 5 minutes per image on AMD 5950x with intel denoising and lack of detail on background mountains because of wrong materials settings i think BUT i think UE can do precise contact shadows soon and it change all static renders

Thank you for your effort, excellent job. While Lumen is still amazing, especially for animations, Path Tracing is still better for stills. if Path Tracing doesn't require an Nvidia RTX card, and you have the time, can you give it a try and make a comparison between the 3 please? (Max Corona, UE5 Lumen, UE5 Path Tracing)

while using path tracing in unreal engine . glass visibility are low. How can I increase the visiblity of that!

you must try the RTX GPU, it's massive increase for lumen renders, or you can run path tracing for physical right lightning inside UE5

Iam new in Unreal. Are there also Render AOVs for compositing later in Photoshop or Fusion?

problem with UE, you still need to import everything into it unlike Corona , it's just there right inside 3ds Max