Professor Jonathan Brown also helped me to embrace the beauty of Islam. May Allah shows his mercy & guidance to all of us.

Love the podcasts, especially your humour Salman! Masha Allah.

Excellent podcast! Every podcast Dr. Brown has done during this lockdown has been distinct and unique so the learning experience has been fantastic for us! Do have future podcasts with the beloved Professor- the depth of the discussion on political peculiarities was brilliant and I hope the sexuality discussion can be explored even more in the next episode with Dr. Brown, hafizahulla

“I don’t want anything to do with the arab world” - I have the same sentiment.

Dr Brown is completely unimpressed lool

This took ages to come out.....finally ☺️

THE SOUND EFFECTS WERE NOT APPRECIATED 😔

Love that he speaks Arabic with his kids

Finally! You are back! Al Hamdu li Allah 😊🥳

Prof Brown putting pressure on you, lol. Recently purchased one of his books, which I still need to get round to reading.

The bit about Muslims presenting our model of what we think of gender, sexuality etc and presenting that instead of conforming or choosing to align with models provided by other groups is very important. InshaAllah Dr Brown and others like him are successful in establishing this.

From around 50:40 Prof Jonathan AC Brown made the statement below which, I suppose, highlights his guidelines on the conditions under which he would cooperate with various western political groups. He said, “It’s not about who do you work with. It’s about, do you require those who work with you to take your sensibilities into consideration…For example, I’m not going to work with them [a right wing group] if they are also trying to prohibit the immigration of Muslims or they are trying to ban Shari’ah, I don’t care what common interests we have…Similarly if I am working with a left-wing or progressive group…I also expect them to respect my religious beliefs. I am not going to agree with certain things. I am not gong to approve of certain things. I am not going to morally advocate certain things. If they are not okay with that, then I can’t work with them. If they are okay with that then we can work together.” Certainly, here in the UK, the Professor's conditions would make it impossible to work with these groups. I took on Ofsted once, on behalf of a small Muslim school I worked at, and they are far too powerful now to accept that we will not agree with and approve of certain things. The complaint reached the Tribunal level which (after mysteriously changing the person making the judgement, part way through) concluded in Ofsted's favour. There were inspectors who were sympathetic to our plight and our values but those in charge were extremely agenda-driven and too powerful to budge (they changed the original judgement of the inspectors who came to the school). Incidentally, if anyone does find themselves having to fight an emotionally draining and time consuming fight that they never envisaged they would have to, the whole tiring experience of arguing and counter-arguing reminded me of the ayah in the Qur'an, "And don't be weak in the pursuit of the enemy; if you are suffering (hardships) then surely, they (too) are suffering (hardships) as you are suffering, but you have a hope from Allah (for the reward, i.e. Paradise) that for which they hope not, and Allah is Ever All­-Knowing, All­-Wise." (TMQ 4:104). I only dealt with them one more time before I left the school and they were at pains to convince us to resolve any conflicts with them before they left, and not let the issue turn into a formal complaint. Also, this issue ties in nicely with the comments made on Islam21C regarding Muslims in the UK being encouraged to vote for Labour or work with liberal minded groups over the last 2 decades, and the consequences of doing so with respect to the LGBTQ issue in schools. I acknowledge Dr Salman Butt’s statements that “You didn’t think the slope was that slippery” and “It is fundamentally unjust to accuse you of being pro…” Dr. Salman Butt also said, “Diversity does exist within Muslims. Some people might be more inclined towards conservative values…Some people might be allying on more socialist type of issues…” There are western psychologists who argue that the direction you are more inclined towards could be largely affected by your personality type. For example, people who are higher in ‘conscientiousness’ might be more ‘conservative’ leaning whereas people who are higher in ‘openness’ could be more ‘liberal’ leaning. The truth could sometimes be found nearer to one end or the other, or it could be in the middle, so yes, it probably is healthy for the society to have both types of people. I’m not sure if it links with this but didn’t Abu Bakr (ra) and Umar (ra) provide a healthy balance for the fledgling Muslim society, as one was softer and the other one harsher.

MANS SPEAKING ARABIC TO HIS KIDS

mans showing the professor card tricks XDD

Cool guy

I DON’T GET THE SLICED BREAD JOKE

This guy is such a massive genius, its ridiculous

Didnt realize was smiling through the first 20 minute's. MashaAllah

Would have been a better listen if the host would've spoken/opined less and the guest were allowed to address the questions posed... nevertheless, thank you for the effort and the opportunity to hear the discussion

Currently reading 'Misquoting Muhammad', and have greatly benefited from it. I wish the book could be translated in Urdu, so it is more accessible to the religiously stringent and emotional South Asian population, who I think really need to have a perspective.

Someone should count how much minutes share did the interviewer get. Monologue does have a place in podcasting. Jeremy Scahill starts almost all his intercepted episodes with a long monologue which gives so much information and context. This guy was blabbering and blabbering and I was like what’s that all about!

this is hilarious lol

may Allah protect you. always healthy..# for you two

Podcasts like these are always interesting and I appreciate the effort that goes into making them. However, there's quite a bit of joking around and banter at the beginning - kind of wish this was shorter and we got a chance to hear about the salient things the guest had to say from the beginning

السلام عليكم..... من فضلكم لو تضعون ترجمة باللغة العربية لتعم الفائدة أكثر. وبارك الله فيكم

من فضلكم لو تضعون ترجمة باللغة العربية حتى تعم الفائدة أكثر.... وبارك الله فيكم

SALMAN YOU’RE TOO FUNNY BRUV AHAHAHAHA

Haha haduken lmao

Id rather memorize surah hujarat rather than specialize in card tricks

Real content starts at around 19:00

The dumb comment at the start where he says "we'd thought we'd diversify it up a little bit" just because he's white

Wait wait wait, Democratic or Republican. I hope not democratic

A lot of fluff. He hasn't addressed clearly things he said that people are upset about. It's a shame because there's a lot to clarify.