Unsolved Mystery of Minecraft's Identical Worlds

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Wifies

Wifies

3 жыл бұрын

The Unsolved Mystery of Minecraft's Identical Worlds -
Minecraft worlds are theoretically infinite, or 30 million blocks in all directions. That's a lot of blocks and a lot of chunks. Out of all the possible combinations of blocks in a chunk, and chunks in a world, could there be two seeds in which two identical chunks appear? Or even cooler, what if two identical chunks appear in the same Minecraft world? Is it even possible? Can two Minecraft Worlds be the same? Well, yes. maybe. :)
Seeds:
Repeating Caves: 164311266871034
Infinite Mineshaft: 107038380838084
'Identical' One: 6444932541743890431
'Identical' Two: 9223372036854775807
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@Wifies
@Wifies 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry I messed up the seeds at ~6:00 lol, check chat for the real seed.
@lakers4life71
@lakers4life71 3 жыл бұрын
Hello panda block man
@Jake_Josh
@Jake_Josh 3 жыл бұрын
It’s okay man. You gotta collab with Dream. Unsolved Mysteries of Minecraft.
@crazyclayagain
@crazyclayagain 3 жыл бұрын
k thanks, also pretty cool video. I wonder if you and dream could do a collab for unsolved mysteries?
@findingthee6049
@findingthee6049 3 жыл бұрын
I mean Its not like i was gonna check the seed or anything
@crazyclayagain
@crazyclayagain 3 жыл бұрын
also lol when I commented this wasnt pinned yet
@oldchannelnotused1
@oldchannelnotused1 3 жыл бұрын
3:24 "Infinite Mineshaft" now that's maybe why I spend 5 hours exploring a mineshaft
@realbignoob1886
@realbignoob1886 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@paulinajohnson368
@paulinajohnson368 3 жыл бұрын
@@realbignoob1886 Lmao
@cuteapple8963
@cuteapple8963 3 жыл бұрын
And why I find like 10 spider spawners
@TeeJayMac1218
@TeeJayMac1218 3 жыл бұрын
I see you comment on a lot of videos.
@oldchannelnotused1
@oldchannelnotused1 3 жыл бұрын
@@TeeJayMac1218 yes.
@pauulthefair
@pauulthefair 3 жыл бұрын
Me, an intellectual: **opens superflat world**
@pauulthefair
@pauulthefair 3 жыл бұрын
@Garrett Hager exactly
@theninjadog4676
@theninjadog4676 3 жыл бұрын
I know this is a joke but technically flat worlds are different because of villages. Edit:OK I get it you can turn structures off please stop telling me
@jared1689
@jared1689 3 жыл бұрын
Did Flat World has the same village town for every seed?
@JJMK7092
@JJMK7092 3 жыл бұрын
Nether and end is different
@JJMK7092
@JJMK7092 3 жыл бұрын
Even in bedrock
@FlakDak
@FlakDak 3 жыл бұрын
3:22 "Yeah hold on I need to loot this mineshaft and then I'll come back up"
@stickboi1807
@stickboi1807 3 жыл бұрын
POV your a dad
@quinip8950
@quinip8950 3 жыл бұрын
its like that one guy who always say he'll be RIGHT back but then comes back like 2 days later
@missmichelle1290
@missmichelle1290 3 жыл бұрын
It’s like the backrooms
@takiben1960
@takiben1960 3 жыл бұрын
@@tkywune OH NO
@blazedgamingkr1438
@blazedgamingkr1438 3 жыл бұрын
My dad pulled this trick before, except it was for cigarettes.
@solaris1520
@solaris1520 3 жыл бұрын
Can we talk about why he has a world named “are villagers antisocial?”
@cardboardgamer1
@cardboardgamer1 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmmmm
@scibanana3542
@scibanana3542 3 жыл бұрын
@@cardboardgamer1 hrrm
@Habzo421
@Habzo421 3 жыл бұрын
@@scibanana3542 hmhm
@NightRaid777
@NightRaid777 3 жыл бұрын
@@Habzo421 hmhmhmmmmmm
@yeltsakcir8778
@yeltsakcir8778 3 жыл бұрын
@@NightRaid777 hmmn
@zorbix3652
@zorbix3652 3 жыл бұрын
"Minecraft worlds can`t be the same.. or can they?" *Vsauce intensified*
@avnishshrivastava2272
@avnishshrivastava2272 3 жыл бұрын
Ú9
@bleh1027
@bleh1027 3 жыл бұрын
*BAM BAM BAMM*
@arifmahmud9513
@arifmahmud9513 3 жыл бұрын
i exactly thought that!!
@angelofsorrows
@angelofsorrows 3 жыл бұрын
I literally thought I was imagine the sound effect
@krimzlk2353
@krimzlk2353 2 жыл бұрын
hey vsauce micheal here your door is locked... or is it?
@imlockedinmyfriendsbasment
@imlockedinmyfriendsbasment 3 жыл бұрын
I find it beautiful that you can share the same chunk with someone you don't know, possibly on the other side of the world.
@HeroDestrin
@HeroDestrin 3 жыл бұрын
out of context this sounds really sus XD but yeah that's true
@ReiDaTecnologia
@ReiDaTecnologia 3 жыл бұрын
True, i never thought of that...
@Placeholder103
@Placeholder103 2 жыл бұрын
thats really wholesome
@Toastysoup1909
@Toastysoup1909 2 жыл бұрын
Or with someone right next to you..
@user-ez7lj5wi4m
@user-ez7lj5wi4m 2 жыл бұрын
I think there are a lot of people whis whom you share, as there are only 16*16*256*5000 possible arrangements of blocks in the chunk (may be some more, depending on dimension and Biomes) that is about 3.27*10**8, and a lot of this arrangements are impossible or rare (for example chunk full of chests or diamond blocks), and there are 5*10**8 people who play Minecraft, and all of them created at least one world, and thousands of chunks, so at average every chunk was seen 10 thousand times. Of course i didn't take into account that there could be much more arrangements if we will try to find not only blocks but things inside chests, but i,m almost certain that even in that case most chunks was seen not only one time
@yassssine5024
@yassssine5024 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine just exploring the mineshaft and you really want to explore all of it and you go all the way to the world border
@ShakespeareChan
@ShakespeareChan 2 жыл бұрын
Literally trying to do that, on a different seed, but there is a stupid RAVINE!!!!!
@JeremyHale141
@JeremyHale141 2 жыл бұрын
it would take like 1+ month
@yassssine5024
@yassssine5024 2 жыл бұрын
@@JeremyHale141 way more. The record to the farlands (30 thousand blocks) took 9 months or smth
@savetheevo
@savetheevo 2 жыл бұрын
@@yassssine5024 It's actually 12 million blocks and it actually took until 2020 for someone to actually reach the farlands on foot without cheats.
@user-cs2re9qh7x
@user-cs2re9qh7x 3 жыл бұрын
The Unsolved Mystery why Wifies only has 100k
@cuteapple8963
@cuteapple8963 3 жыл бұрын
It's because he makes boring videos just teaching us math
@flomato
@flomato 3 жыл бұрын
@@cuteapple8963 what about game theory/film theory? they have 10m
@commander8625
@commander8625 3 жыл бұрын
@@flomato game theory covers every top game on the market, and therefore staying in the mix. They increase their fanbase by covering many games or movies of many different genres. Plus, game theory includes obvious jokes and less monotone voice acting.
@juocyjay5732
@juocyjay5732 3 жыл бұрын
@Dinmeraz78 yeah but what does that matter
@coolcat.488
@coolcat.488 3 жыл бұрын
the real reason is because he comments on every video and grabs some clout
@wasabithumbs6294
@wasabithumbs6294 3 жыл бұрын
This video induces slight anxiety in those that actually know how Java Random works
@ehx3419
@ehx3419 3 жыл бұрын
@Chonghan L As someone who started out with Java as my first programming language, I have a hard time understanding how it could traumatize anyone. To me, it's the best programming language I've ever programmed in. There's just something incredibly satisfying about applying object oriented paradigms in a way that makes sense and feels natural. Then again, it's understandable if it's on your list of things you suck at. (Which there's nothing wrong with. Everyone has a list of things they suck at.)
@BlueSodaPop_
@BlueSodaPop_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@ehx3419 I started learning java at first and I didn't understand a single bit about it. Something about it seemed so off to me. Maybe it has something to it that makes some people feel like me
@ehx3419
@ehx3419 3 жыл бұрын
@@BlueSodaPop_ Most Java courses and learning books don't explain OOP until rather late, despite the fact it's a fundamental part of the language, and that might be what confuses people. I was lucky to have learned it with Greenfoot initially which follows a different approach: Before even explaining the basic code statements, it first discusses the idea behind OOP. That idea weaves through the entire course, in particular regarding modularity. This makes the chapter about classes much less of a "we introduce a whole new pattern that changes the way you code completely and that you probably noticed the whole time but never knew what it was all about" and more of an "ok, but how do you actually do OOP?", which to me feels much more consistent. That approach does have its downsides, though. When I subsequently studied Computer Science at the UAS, I was constantly using OOP for things where it makes zero sense (such as an entire class hierarchy to create String messages to print) and thought that's how you're supposed to do things. I learned that part rather quickly, however. Mere 2-3 semesters later, my code from early 1st semester felt embarassing to look back at.
@OpTubeShorts
@OpTubeShorts 3 жыл бұрын
@Chonghan Liu play bedrock
@dannygjk
@dannygjk 3 жыл бұрын
@@ehx3419 Java is unbelievably inefficient tho.
@Solowraith4life
@Solowraith4life 3 жыл бұрын
When he mentioned the pigeon hole thrown he was close. The problem was he focused on chunks rather than what generates chunks. Chunks are determined by the seed of the world, Minecraft works by hashing your seed, there's an "infinite" number of things you can input for a seed but they all get converted into a specific number using this hash function. Because there's an infinite domain and a finite range this leads to multiples of the same input mapping to the same hashed value, this is what's known as a hash collision.
@GayAnnabeth
@GayAnnabeth 3 жыл бұрын
ok except the seeds he was entering were the raw number, and not arbitrary strings of text it is very obvious that there are more than 2^64 strings of text you can enter into the seed field
@Meckolo
@Meckolo 2 жыл бұрын
imagine trying to explore a mineshaft and not knowing that it’s infinite
@failedattempttm
@failedattempttm 2 жыл бұрын
I'd start crying 😭
@JeremyHale141
@JeremyHale141 2 жыл бұрын
you'd either find out eventually or think you're going in a circle lol
@7MinutozRapsLetras
@7MinutozRapsLetras 3 ай бұрын
@@JeremyHale141 think you're going in a square* its minecraft man
@arianathenova
@arianathenova Ай бұрын
The backrooms
@leviathjensen2149
@leviathjensen2149 3 жыл бұрын
“Both seeds converted to binary are the same but just a couple of 0s swapped in” bruh it’s binary you can say that about most numbers
@NamesAreObsolete
@NamesAreObsolete 3 жыл бұрын
It hurt seeing him misunderstand binary like that
@conradrobinson7941
@conradrobinson7941 3 жыл бұрын
Sure but the seed has to be the same length
@firefish111
@firefish111 3 жыл бұрын
also that first seed was also the maximum positive seed possible
@jordanismyname6811
@jordanismyname6811 3 жыл бұрын
the string length though
@Photek24
@Photek24 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was dying watching him talk about that
@froggman66
@froggman66 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody: Wifies in 2069: how many eggs in every server are there on minecraft
@ezriha
@ezriha 3 жыл бұрын
I suppose you also don’t know how to enter/return
@want-diversecontent3887
@want-diversecontent3887 3 жыл бұрын
@@ezriha (or if you use windows, )
@itzslayr1435
@itzslayr1435 3 жыл бұрын
The seed were 2 lost twins
@ezriha
@ezriha 3 жыл бұрын
@@want-diversecontent3887 I’m computer and ios
@betne5523
@betne5523 3 жыл бұрын
I'll give him 2 weeks to do that video
@NotNitehawk
@NotNitehawk 3 жыл бұрын
The last four digits of the seed, in Decimal, are responsible for structure gen. As long as you keep those last four digits the same, you will always have the same structure gen. This is something that has been known by the Minecraft Set Seed community for quite some time.
@Redslayer88
@Redslayer88 11 ай бұрын
Ok
@thiccymcdunk1745
@thiccymcdunk1745 3 жыл бұрын
I love how at 0:06 he has two worlds named “The sponge you shower with” and “Are villagers antisocial”
@mickzivpetreanu3267
@mickzivpetreanu3267 3 жыл бұрын
420vapemaster69 WHAT A NAME!
@WasdChicken
@WasdChicken 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@vkh4ever951
@vkh4ever951 3 жыл бұрын
nerd?
@muhaiminhoquechowdhury963
@muhaiminhoquechowdhury963 3 жыл бұрын
it was a name from wilbursoots video
@mickzivpetreanu3267
@mickzivpetreanu3267 3 жыл бұрын
@@muhaiminhoquechowdhury963 o cool
@ForkGenesis
@ForkGenesis 3 жыл бұрын
Turned himself into a Minecraft Vsause, coolest shit I've even seen.
@Isawthat
@Isawthat 3 жыл бұрын
agreed
@Eightsixseven23224
@Eightsixseven23224 3 жыл бұрын
@@Isawthat or is it?
@shreckster3744
@shreckster3744 3 жыл бұрын
@@Eightsixseven23224 but first, what IS AGREED
@kulehunter
@kulehunter 3 жыл бұрын
@@Eightsixseven23224 😂😂😂
@internetperson9813
@internetperson9813 3 жыл бұрын
Finnish word for wisdom: viisaus
@vicsalvagun5597
@vicsalvagun5597 3 жыл бұрын
so, i remember before 10 years i was watching a mc youtuber who had just started a new world, o month later i started a game WITH THE EXACT CHUNKS as his. Same biomes, some villages etc.
@marlosuper
@marlosuper 3 жыл бұрын
this is a certified what moment
@ollympian_art
@ollympian_art 2 жыл бұрын
@@notkyoze r/ihavereddit
@siopal9021
@siopal9021 2 жыл бұрын
proof?
@fransiscayulianita68
@fransiscayulianita68 2 жыл бұрын
@@siopal9021 Trust me bro.
@icespirit
@icespirit Жыл бұрын
liar moment. you can only randomly generate one of the seeds of a "set of copies" and the chances are still 1 in 2^48
@QuietTurbinesVods
@QuietTurbinesVods 3 жыл бұрын
Me seeing this video with 1 minute before class: Also me: Yeah, I've got time.
@mr.theGOAT420
@mr.theGOAT420 2 жыл бұрын
I am in a zoom session while I am commenting
@progamerdgd943
@progamerdgd943 3 жыл бұрын
Wifies: some seeds have copies Antvenom: *I am four parallel universes ahead of you*
@ratioripbozo
@ratioripbozo 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@axe0000
@axe0000 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@JeersNX
@JeersNX 4 ай бұрын
Lmfao
@OnetheBest
@OnetheBest 3 жыл бұрын
imagine if some seeds could be altered by mojang, that would be so cool. imagine a seed that has "Sub to Wifies" just built at spawn
@Goonqq
@Goonqq 3 жыл бұрын
That would be wholesome
@Wifies
@Wifies 3 жыл бұрын
dude that'd be awesome
@darkpotato6577
@darkpotato6577 3 жыл бұрын
ayy it’s oneTB
@guyv3693
@guyv3693 3 жыл бұрын
They should make it so you could customize seeds
@paulinajohnson368
@paulinajohnson368 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@emberaes3915
@emberaes3915 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, so I go into a world to speedrun, right? I see a ruined portal and a village, loot the village, go into the portal, then explore and found another ruined portal in the nether with the exact same loot as the overworld one. Just thought this was weird
@bigfatstinkyrat9167
@bigfatstinkyrat9167 2 жыл бұрын
But more importantly what was your time?
@eclecticsoffy
@eclecticsoffy 2 жыл бұрын
May we have the seed? Also, did you complete it, and what is the time?
@emberaes3915
@emberaes3915 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigfatstinkyrat9167 nope, cuz there was no fortress for a solid 5 min
@emberaes3915
@emberaes3915 2 жыл бұрын
@@eclecticsoffy I'll have to re find the seed, hopefully I didn't already delete it. And no, I didn't complete it.
@eclecticsoffy
@eclecticsoffy 2 жыл бұрын
@@emberaes3915 welp, too bad you didn't complete it, but who am I to tell you that you must complete a speedrun
@theoceanskyesystem9463
@theoceanskyesystem9463 3 жыл бұрын
Wifies: **Spitting numbers** Me: I didn't get a word of that.
@nathana.2381
@nathana.2381 3 жыл бұрын
6:45 "Its basically the same thing, but with zeros swapped out for the ones" That's binary there's only zeros and ones.
@randombanana640
@randombanana640 3 жыл бұрын
exactly what i was thinking bruhhhh
@kangalio
@kangalio 3 жыл бұрын
I don't see the problem..?
@randombanana640
@randombanana640 3 жыл бұрын
@@kangalio Umm Maybe You Don't Understand Binary Completely :)
@jammie6544
@jammie6544 3 жыл бұрын
@@randombanana640 what's here to understand tho it's literally 1 or 0 😭
@randombanana640
@randombanana640 3 жыл бұрын
@@jammie6544 Lol 😂
@iljone
@iljone 3 жыл бұрын
nobody gonna talk about how the skywars footage was recorded two months ago
@Wifies
@Wifies 3 жыл бұрын
lol this was just scheduled a while ago but yes. I have this huge folder of background footage I randomly select from
@cn7032
@cn7032 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wifies hi wifies how are you
@akkredstone4052
@akkredstone4052 3 жыл бұрын
:/?
@user83nf3
@user83nf3 3 жыл бұрын
no no one's gonno
@cy-bernet-ix
@cy-bernet-ix 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wifies i've seen this exact footage in like 3 different videos from you smh
@spaceglidinmio2388
@spaceglidinmio2388 3 жыл бұрын
0:30 I actually has that seed as one of my hardcore world once I still remember that spawn point
@itzk1ndah945
@itzk1ndah945 2 жыл бұрын
Did you die in the hardcore world or no? If you did die, how? Just curious
@CamrynChanelC
@CamrynChanelC 2 жыл бұрын
I've got this seed too
@Redslayer88
@Redslayer88 11 ай бұрын
That like very familiar
@Randy_Marsh
@Randy_Marsh 3 жыл бұрын
The vsauce music, the “or is it”. This is a masterpiece. You’re definitely Michael, or are you? *vsauce music plays
@Living_Murphys_Law
@Living_Murphys_Law 2 жыл бұрын
Or is he?
@pardeepgarg2640
@pardeepgarg2640 2 жыл бұрын
Is he or?
@disksector
@disksector 2 жыл бұрын
Huh?
@pardeepgarg2640
@pardeepgarg2640 2 жыл бұрын
@@disksector Is it Huh or Heh
@disksector
@disksector 2 жыл бұрын
@@pardeepgarg2640 idk you tell me
@annabethmoo1213
@annabethmoo1213 3 жыл бұрын
...I can't be the only one that laughed at the calculator saying infinity for five mins straight, right?
@litterbox_h
@litterbox_h 3 жыл бұрын
no you aren't
@greendinosaur4462
@greendinosaur4462 3 жыл бұрын
Humour
@meldave6
@meldave6 2 жыл бұрын
You frated
@Stella_X
@Stella_X 3 жыл бұрын
Can we all appreciate the rare tall birch forest in the intro while he was showing the terrain for a moment?
@prettylilhedpoppyseed
@prettylilhedpoppyseed 3 жыл бұрын
Birch is my fave, and i had no idea these existed.. Thank you.
@Stella_X
@Stella_X 3 жыл бұрын
@@prettylilhedpoppyseed ur welcome
@enforcingolive4307
@enforcingolive4307 3 жыл бұрын
Is it really an actual rare birch tree biome? I thought it was just a result of his FOV
@Stella_X
@Stella_X 3 жыл бұрын
@@enforcingolive4307 yes, it is a sub variant of a birch forest, and its actually the 5th rarest biome in the game, and you can look it up if you want to fact check it.
@felixergastulis6808
@felixergastulis6808 3 жыл бұрын
My first Minecraft world of 2021 I spawned in one, I didn’t realize how rare they were
@TonyThigh
@TonyThigh 3 жыл бұрын
I remeber that in the old times, when putting a seed, if you out alot of "0" you get infinite mountains and ravines too
@CRT_Static
@CRT_Static 3 жыл бұрын
"Now I dont know that much about world generation-" **proceeds to explain in depth how it works**
@mooing_cowmilk
@mooing_cowmilk 3 жыл бұрын
The entire part of can there be the same chunk in the same chunk on two different seeds is always a yes. It is called sister seeds that share all the same loot and structures (and biome(s) to a %). For every world you make there are 2^16 -1 other seeds just like that one (that's 65535 seeds). Sisters are used a lot when finding the perfect seed for speedrunning. The same chunk in different coords is interesting and currently unknown. Also just as a note: sister seed is not a shadow seed, they are 2 completely different things.
@annaw.1951
@annaw.1951 3 жыл бұрын
Just thought I'd add some details here: Minecraft uses Java's built-in random number functions to generate structures and loot, but some other algorithm (perlin or simplex noise, I believe) for terrain. Java uses a linear congruential generator with a 48-bit seed to generate random numbers. The seeds you provide to Minecraft are 64 bit. What this means is that the structure generation essentially "cuts off" the highest-order 16 bit of the seed and uses the remaining 48 bit to generate structures, but the terrain and biome generation still uses the whole 64-bit seed. Note how the two seeds Wifies shows that have the same structures only differ within the first 16 bit. When he changed 8 random bits, he didn't take any care not to change the lower 48 bit, so the structures were different. This means that there are 65536 times fewer possible structure seeds than there are world seeds. Consequentially, there will always be sets of 65536 seeds that share exactly the same structures.
@AlexisTwoLastNames
@AlexisTwoLastNames 3 жыл бұрын
@@annaw.1951 this comment makes me want to continue my learning abt algorithms lol
@pardeepgarg2640
@pardeepgarg2640 2 жыл бұрын
If your information and my calculations are right coming across two such seeds in row has percentage 3.1553... × 10^(-30) But by terrain generation noises and equation Two seeds having same block in same x,y,z coords has percentage 68.1 × Rarity factor × Constant (depending on seeds) But by this Coming across such seeds is like 1 in Septillion that is quite low as compared to above :/
@georgelaycock737
@georgelaycock737 3 жыл бұрын
so the last few numbers or so of a seed when converted into binary are what define the structures, the former characters are what define the biomes and what not, so if you add 2^16 to a seed, you'll get a "sister" seed, they have the same structure generations but different biomes. this strategy was used in the 1.8.9 SSG speedrun to find the most optimal seed for the run.
@singingcat02
@singingcat02 Жыл бұрын
I really love watching your videos, and one of the reasons is you making the effort of doing your own research and calculations. It's not really common to see gaming youtubers using their own calculations as backup to their theories and as further and clear explanation of how the game system genuinely works. It's good to see someone who can start from pure facts and build something strong only from them. Your reasonings are just pleasant to hear, even though I may struggle to understand english, especially fast-spoken, sometimes ! Keep up the good work !
@Fireknight886
@Fireknight886 Ай бұрын
You could literally have an identical seed except for 1 chunk because all worlds are infinite. Video is also super cool, I appreciate all the effort you put in!
@BrodieEaton
@BrodieEaton 3 жыл бұрын
I'm actually strangely knowledgeable in the area of infinite terrain generation, although the jargon in IT is "progressive terrain generation" since it's not actually infinite, it just progresses as the player progresses. Although I don't know exactly how Minecraft does their progressive terrain, there is some technical knowledge I can supply, and hopefully I'll be able to help solve the mystery shown at 6:00. For starters, the surface of the world is generated using a type of visual noise known as "Perlin Noise", used to generate visual black-and-white noise that transitions smoothly between minimum and maximum values. This noise script is added onto itself as many times as the developers choose to generate Fractal Noise, to give smaller details on top of the larger shape. However, this type of script has one fatal flaw, being that every single instance of Perlin Noise is identical; you can't have random Perlin Noise. So, what developers do to get around this is they randomise where the Perlin Noise is initially sampled from, and these values are so high that it might as well be random Perlin Noise. When it comes to fractal noise, each layer of Perlin Noise (aka each octave of Perlin Noise) is sampled individually from the other layers, allowing each layer to be sampled from entirely different locations, providing more randomness to the terrain. The easiest way to accomplish this is to just put the world-seed into a random-number generator to spit out an x-offset and y-offset for each layer of Perlin Noise. Then, to turn the shape of the fractal noise into an actual 3D surface, each value within the perlin noise is interpreted by Minecraft's code as a value between 0 and 255, with interpretations being different depending on the biome the values are being interpreted in. Now, with all of this knowledge presented, I'm going to show you why these two worlds were completely identical at these specific coordinates and why there are probably many more coordinates in these worlds that are identical, and it has to do with the way that random number generators actually work. For starters, there is no such thing as a "random number generator". They're actually "pseudo-random number generators", with "pseudo-random" meaning "fake random". While I won't go into detail on how they work, RNG is nothing more than basic mathematics with really large numbers outputting relatively small numbers, to make the outputs look random. Which means the same input for an RNG script will give the same output. The other thing to know about RNG is that each output it generates will always become the input the next time it's called, unless the code changes the input directly. It is very possible that two numbers, when put into the same random-number generator, will output the same number. And, since that output becomes the next input, the second, third, fourth, fifth, and every other number that is generated by that random number generator will be identical, until the input is directly changed by the code. If you were paying attention earlier, you might be able to piece this mystery together now. Like I said before, the sampling of Perlin Noise is offset randomly using a random-number generator, where the world-seed is the initial input. So, what has happened here is that these two seeds, when put through the random-number generator, outputted exactly the same result for the first time it was called, meaning every other time this random-number generator was called outputted the same numbers for both seeds, giving both of the worlds exactly the same Fractal Noise. That's why they were identical when you got to those coordinates. Which then raises the question as to why it was only at these coordinates that the worlds were identical, but if you were paying attention earlier you'd probably know that too, and it has to do with the biomes. Like I mentioned earlier, each biome interprets the fractal noise differently, so that the surfaces of different biomes generate differently to each-other. I have no clue as to how Minecraft's biome-distribution works (although I'm beginning research on biome distribution shortly), but what's happened is these biomes just so happened to be identical at these coordinates. And, since the fractal noise for both worlds are identical, and the biomes at this location is identical, the surface for both worlds were generated identically at this location. The ores, grass, caves, trees and ruined portals, are probably also generated with a similar process using RNG, which is why these were also identical at these location. Theoretically, so long as the biomes for both worlds are identical at a certain locations, there could be so many more locations within these worlds that are identical. I'd suggest going to the ChunkBase Biome Finder and trying to find some coordinates where the biomes in each world are identical. I just found a point at X -6378, Z -12297 if someone wants to give that a go.
@BlueSodaPop_
@BlueSodaPop_ 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't understand a single word but I just wanted to appreciate your effort.
@DarkShadows713
@DarkShadows713 2 жыл бұрын
This is really interesting, but now I want to know, if the Perlin for these two worlds is identical, and the surface is therefore identical, but the biomes are different, then the biomes must be determined by a different RNG, right? So how are those determined?
@BrodieEaton
@BrodieEaton 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarkShadows713 I have no idea and I've been trying to work that out myself for the terrain tool I'm working on. My best guess is that Biomes use a type of visual noise that is specific for its cause, but in the end I have no clue.
@ulasgolbasi9719
@ulasgolbasi9719 2 жыл бұрын
what. the. F*CK. was. this. now?
@roryr9639
@roryr9639 2 жыл бұрын
didn't read it all since it's SOOO long but you seem to have a lot of knowledge on terrain generation
@inconspicuoususername
@inconspicuoususername 3 жыл бұрын
This really isn't even remotely unsolved, and we know exactly why all of these anomalies happen. It's just that the explanation is so technical and requires so much understanding of computer science that very, very few people truly understand enough to explain it in detail.
@conradrobinson7941
@conradrobinson7941 3 жыл бұрын
Thats what unsolved mysteries is. Unsolved by the creator.
@jensbkgaardmastai6571
@jensbkgaardmastai6571 3 жыл бұрын
so you're saying it's so unexplainable, that it ACTUALLY can't be explained? woah! sounds like an unsolved mystery.
@inconspicuoususername
@inconspicuoususername 3 жыл бұрын
@@jensbkgaardmastai6571 But it's completely explainable, provided you're willing to put effort into even trying to understand. Hell, you can still dumb the explanation down enough for laymen, it's just that people haven't been arsed to do either of those things. So it's neither unexplainable, nor unsolved, unless your definition of "unsolveable/unexplainable" is simply "complicated to explain"
@jensbkgaardmastai6571
@jensbkgaardmastai6571 3 жыл бұрын
@@inconspicuoususername well okay
@sa.rahtonin
@sa.rahtonin 3 жыл бұрын
@@jensbkgaardmastai6571 wait are you the same guy who just consoled me about my dead dog today
@TurkJD
@TurkJD 3 жыл бұрын
You’ve gotta be my favorite MC YT’er, every other Yt’er always sounds cringy, like a child, and never fully gets to the point directly. I appreciate your videos. EZ Sub
@thebardsdungeon
@thebardsdungeon 3 жыл бұрын
Dude! I thought I was a savant because of some of my ridiculous builds, but you have to be a savant because of the things you are able to work out! Respect!
@t4rgetedd
@t4rgetedd 3 жыл бұрын
Theory: Every world is connected with eachother.
@t4rgetedd
@t4rgetedd 3 жыл бұрын
@CoaliceYT oh ok
@ghostwhodoesthemost9886
@ghostwhodoesthemost9886 3 жыл бұрын
IVE BEEN THINKING THIS FOR SO LONG
@archangel.....
@archangel..... 3 жыл бұрын
I think every world has a similar chunk from other world in it
@t4rgetedd
@t4rgetedd 3 жыл бұрын
@@archangel..... yes ig
@InterTheGalactican
@InterTheGalactican 3 жыл бұрын
acctually this might apply to roblox but not directly connected
@Jake_Josh
@Jake_Josh 3 жыл бұрын
Dream and Wifies should collab and do a Unsolved Minecraft to start off season 2 Episode 2 in style.
@anaccount4354
@anaccount4354 3 жыл бұрын
Start off season 2? The Herobrine video does exist, ya know.
@EthanAlexander
@EthanAlexander 3 жыл бұрын
@@anaccount4354 LoL it should be a different series
@sunny_xiao
@sunny_xiao 3 жыл бұрын
No
@Redditard
@Redditard 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@catshmil8617
@catshmil8617 3 жыл бұрын
Absolotly
@zqrxxx
@zqrxxx 2 жыл бұрын
Just wait till they find that one iron ore block out of place..
@Justanothergirl009
@Justanothergirl009 2 жыл бұрын
Good job buddy! Really appreciate all your hard work.
@ART3K_
@ART3K_ 3 жыл бұрын
There's Vsauce music in the backround. Wifies is mutating.
@TailGreat
@TailGreat 3 жыл бұрын
I know...
@Walnusskreis
@Walnusskreis 3 жыл бұрын
0:35 Hello vsauce wifis here!
@Wifies
@Wifies 3 жыл бұрын
^^^^^^^^^^^
@pikachu-jf2oh
@pikachu-jf2oh 3 жыл бұрын
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@ia_yah
@ia_yah 3 жыл бұрын
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@almabartoli9302
@almabartoli9302 3 жыл бұрын
***********
@blanuzia
@blanuzia 3 жыл бұрын
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@sagacious03
@sagacious03 3 жыл бұрын
Great analysis! Thanks for uploading!
@chibiyuka
@chibiyuka 2 жыл бұрын
so I recently learned this from one of the videos I came across with. The specific binaries you've pointed out that are similar are what affects those generations for the ruined portals and such so it's high likely there are multiple other seeds with the same location generation regardless of the biome due to the difference in the first few binaries.
@ghostella_8348
@ghostella_8348 3 жыл бұрын
In 0.7 pocket edition its actually the same seed just different location
@Wifies
@Wifies 3 жыл бұрын
That's actually really cool, I had no idea
@Versuffe
@Versuffe 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wifies spawn on seeds are different. So these worlds you have An area inaccessible on another next to border.
@storm_fling1062
@storm_fling1062 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wifies maybe the seed has littrally just one tiny block diffrent
@YoshiLikesFate
@YoshiLikesFate 3 жыл бұрын
@@storm_fling1062 SOME seeds
@bettercalldelta
@bettercalldelta 3 жыл бұрын
When I first played Minecraft, I always thought that the world is the same but I appear in different locations
@BalintCsala
@BalintCsala 3 жыл бұрын
Those seeds at around 5:30 aren't different completely, they have the same remainder when divided by 2^48, which due to some technical reasons related to java is what matters for structure generation
@BalintCsala
@BalintCsala 3 жыл бұрын
Essentially, if you put these into the random generator of java and request a sequence of 64 bit random numbers, it will give you the exact same results
@BalintCsala
@BalintCsala 3 жыл бұрын
The reason the seeds don't look the same is because the two numbers don't have the same remainder when divided by 2^64 (2 to the power of 64) and terrain generation uses the full 64 bits
@nimeesha4388
@nimeesha4388 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I respect u cause u did so much research for this. Earned a sub
@CrimsonJewel
@CrimsonJewel 2 жыл бұрын
The seed: *I can't think of a type of world generation style on this chunk. Maybe I'll just copy the others.*
@The7thFleet
@The7thFleet 3 жыл бұрын
”Unsolved mystery” haven’t seen that title for a long time
@greenman784
@greenman784 3 жыл бұрын
"Same World, Different Seed" People who discovered the world in the title screen in Minecraft: **chuckles** I'm in danger
@Yqe-
@Yqe- 3 жыл бұрын
Why would we be in danger?
@randomlightstand
@randomlightstand 3 жыл бұрын
@@Yqe- because it might be a different seed
@Yqe-
@Yqe- 3 жыл бұрын
@@randomlightstand what? you do know that all sister seeds for the title screen are known, and since it's beta 1.7 they all generate the exact same
@randomlightstand
@randomlightstand 3 жыл бұрын
@@Yqe- its just a joke wth
@koboiii1178
@koboiii1178 3 жыл бұрын
5:24 The fact that there was a spawner under the ruined portal is just... Incredible
@Redslayer88
@Redslayer88 11 ай бұрын
Loo
@user-pr6ed3ri2k
@user-pr6ed3ri2k 2 ай бұрын
3:55 that mineshaft was really weird, imagine loading up a new world and traversing that shaft for eons
@user-pr6ed3ri2k
@user-pr6ed3ri2k 2 ай бұрын
6:29 that's why it looked familiar
@madkirk7431
@madkirk7431 3 жыл бұрын
He became Vsause the second that music started.
@LawrenceEvers
@LawrenceEvers 3 жыл бұрын
Ye like nice knock off vsause with the "or can they" start
@OpTubeShorts
@OpTubeShorts 3 жыл бұрын
You're everywhere
@shapeswitch_mood7221
@shapeswitch_mood7221 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the Attorney Ace noteblock music you put when you make a plot twist.
@anyadina2913
@anyadina2913 2 жыл бұрын
incredible video, as always !
@brunoberti8790
@brunoberti8790 Ай бұрын
Antvenom has a video on "shadow" seeds, witch might be fenómeno you're experiencing here
@victoriawhitfield8943
@victoriawhitfield8943 3 жыл бұрын
I used to rule the world Chunks would load when I gave the word Now every night I go stow away Hide from the mobs I used to slay They once were terrified Every time I looked into their eyes Villagers would cheer my way For a hero I was, that's what they'd say One minute we had it all Next our world began to fall Away from all that it had once become They all cried for my help, but I stood there numb I gaze off into the boundless skyline Noteblock choirs playing in the sunshine Turn 'round pick up my sword and wield The blade that once forced evil mobs to yield And hope one day that this chaos and Destruction turns for the better Never a bow in hand That was when I ruled the land It was the creepers and Skeletons Blew down the doors and boxed us in Arrows whizzing by like streaks of light I tried all that I could to stay and fight As the undead roamed the street Families broken at my feet Life itself suspended by a thread Oh, why is it that I wasn't dead I gaze off into the boundless skyline Noteblock choirs playing in the sunshine Turn 'round pick up my sword and wield The blade that once forced evil mobs to yield If this battle should leave me slain I know Herobrine will call my name Better to take a stand That was when I ruled the land I gaze off into the boundless skyline Noteblock choirs playing in the sunshine Turn 'round pick up my sword and wield The blade that once forced evil mobs to yield If this battle should leave me slain I know Herobrine will call my name Better to take a stand That was when I ruled the land
@finnthomas7014
@finnthomas7014 3 жыл бұрын
Respect+
@kenzatoh857
@kenzatoh857 3 жыл бұрын
like
@ahmed4363
@ahmed4363 3 жыл бұрын
???
@marloplayztsbthespaceboy1807
@marloplayztsbthespaceboy1807 3 жыл бұрын
15:22 SUPER MATH TIME STARTS
@notdolandark
@notdolandark 2 жыл бұрын
This is also the same reason that if the universe is infinitely large there’s an infinite number of you doing an infinite number of things and an infinite number of you doing the exact same thing as you
@WhiteSharks-wz6kn
@WhiteSharks-wz6kn 3 жыл бұрын
14:33 This dude is literally beating a Hacker, that dude can't be legit
@bigprojects2560
@bigprojects2560 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like kill aura
@danielw2807
@danielw2807 3 жыл бұрын
5:00 this happend to me once in a creative and surivial world and I just thought WTF I HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE, sadly it was so long ago, I do not remember the seeds
@user-dl3vn8ze9n
@user-dl3vn8ze9n 3 жыл бұрын
I could listen to KZfaqrs doing math all day, as long as I DON'T have to do it.
@elementpro2792
@elementpro2792 2 жыл бұрын
Get off roblox go at math games
@finwasfound
@finwasfound 2 жыл бұрын
Btw I love math
@finwasfound
@finwasfound 2 жыл бұрын
I used to hate math but now I love jt
@finwasfound
@finwasfound 2 жыл бұрын
its entertaining
@finwasfound
@finwasfound 2 жыл бұрын
U learn something new,
@jakeparkinson7695
@jakeparkinson7695 3 жыл бұрын
whats funny is terrain generation is separate from cave generation, so theoretically you can get worlds that have different caves and the same terrain or the opposite.
@juliefarrell6688
@juliefarrell6688 3 жыл бұрын
The ace atoury music is really the cherry on top for this vid!
@komodokraft7814
@komodokraft7814 3 жыл бұрын
0:37 lmao you sound like vsauce 1:55 LITERALLY using vsauce music lolol
@sandpaperunderthetable6708
@sandpaperunderthetable6708 3 жыл бұрын
Plot twist he is vsauce
@FasterBueno
@FasterBueno 3 жыл бұрын
Plot twist WE are V sauce
@astracrits4633
@astracrits4633 3 жыл бұрын
@@FasterBueno Plot twist: the real VSauce was the friends we made along the way.
@eeeee6431
@eeeee6431 3 жыл бұрын
@@astracrits4633 Plot twist: We’re out of milk get some more
@fanimationsoldacc
@fanimationsoldacc 3 жыл бұрын
Since when did you hit 120K?! Congrats!
@Magnezone-ki5rg
@Magnezone-ki5rg 3 жыл бұрын
13:43 that is very fast... must've taken you a lot of tries... good work... i appreciate it... :D
@alicechoi8950
@alicechoi8950 3 жыл бұрын
I'm brazilian and I was hearing him okey. But when he started talking fast at 13:50, I give up because I didn't understand anything he said, and I'm sad
@Alpha-rx8kc
@Alpha-rx8kc 3 жыл бұрын
Também não entendi nada sem a legenda
@amayans4230
@amayans4230 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, in the end dimension there are plenty of identical chunks
@darkela5507
@darkela5507 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@scottthescrat
@scottthescrat 3 жыл бұрын
No, actually not
@staredgazer6961
@staredgazer6961 3 жыл бұрын
And in conclusion, there are a lot of pigeons.
@kavkazdemon
@kavkazdemon 3 жыл бұрын
Bro this channel is noice I always learn something new when watching
@59garymajor
@59garymajor 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the shadow worlds of Minecraft, worlds that generate biomes in the same place/cords but everything else is different, makes you think about how random isn’t really random.
@woowee3280
@woowee3280 3 жыл бұрын
i could have sworn your skywars background gameplay was in another video of yours... at 3:49 Edit : AHA! ive found it! its in “V O I D L A D D E R”!
@adamr7963
@adamr7963 3 жыл бұрын
Who's this Wifies kid and why did I sub at 1k? Ok well I guess I'll watch some more. love the vids man keep up the great work :D
@ofareh
@ofareh 3 жыл бұрын
same
@meenusajeev6448
@meenusajeev6448 2 жыл бұрын
can we just take a moment to appreciate that he makes everyones quarantine 100 times better
@dionemartins0212
@dionemartins0212 2 жыл бұрын
"360 to the 51200 powered returned infinity on the calculator, which is a wee over 14 trillion so I think we're out of luck" These little snipets of comedy said really seriously in otherwise serious videos, they always kills me
@Dex-YT-rl1ek
@Dex-YT-rl1ek 3 жыл бұрын
0:37 vsauce music starts playing
@Kapin05
@Kapin05 3 жыл бұрын
Plains and ocean chunks in particular seem like great candidates for duplication. They don't generate emeralds or trees and have very predictable surface heights.
@-na-nomad6247
@-na-nomad6247 3 жыл бұрын
13:46 "Dear Notch, Hi ! It's me ! Austin !"
@pepetheleaksta6456
@pepetheleaksta6456 3 жыл бұрын
Really appreciated this video thanks
@oldchannelnotused1
@oldchannelnotused1 3 жыл бұрын
am i the only person that doesn't understand a SINGLE thing said in this video?
@OnetheBest
@OnetheBest 3 жыл бұрын
have u watched the full video?
@oldchannelnotused1
@oldchannelnotused1 3 жыл бұрын
@@OnetheBest nope. i have watched like a quarter of it and i dont understand a single thing so far.
@InMySillyEra
@InMySillyEra 3 жыл бұрын
I'm halfway but still don't get it ;-;
@loristonkatsu6417
@loristonkatsu6417 3 жыл бұрын
I understand a little.But i dont understand the math😐
@zombieoverlord8441
@zombieoverlord8441 3 жыл бұрын
I actually find it really easy to understand
@cwj4618
@cwj4618 3 жыл бұрын
2:00 64 snowballs That’s illegal
@talpadiea7105
@talpadiea7105 3 жыл бұрын
This comment is just to help this guy climb on the yt algorithm.
@squidpw6493
@squidpw6493 3 жыл бұрын
8:26 Ironically speaking about algorithms he mispronounced it XD
@TakoyakiDonuts
@TakoyakiDonuts 3 жыл бұрын
I remember running into basically my first world seed on the old Xbox 360 version. It was really interesting. I found the exact same mountain I made my first house on with the exception that it wasn’t a snowy biome, which when I first came across it in my first world, it was.
@alexc4924
@alexc4924 3 жыл бұрын
"we have no idea why the duplication happens in the first place" - you displayed a forum post, ON THE VIDEO, that tells you why!
@shakewell42
@shakewell42 3 жыл бұрын
“Are villagers antisocial” *mood*
@evinred4993
@evinred4993 3 жыл бұрын
Fact that people often forget, infinite does not mean that something won't happen twice, they say earth is one of a kind.. it isn't. The universe probably has others. Just like our favorite blue marble, Have fun trying to have a goodnight sleep now.
@thelilbluguy
@thelilbluguy 10 ай бұрын
I started a minecraft world a few weeks ago with my dad, and I was flying around with my elytra, when I stumbled across a landscape that looked strangely familiar to one of my other singleplayer worlds. There was the same big tree in a plains next to a mountain. I might try and go back there somehow and investigate because in my singleplayer world there was a cave with a zombie spawner in it. I kind of just looked at my screen weird for a moment before brushing it off and thinking it was nothing.
@ignoremypaststupidity2719
@ignoremypaststupidity2719 3 жыл бұрын
In theory if something is infinite there will be an infinite number of things that are the same except for a slight single change. Technically if Minecraft worlds were truly infinite there would be an infinite amount of world the same except one block off
@madaaubrey8711
@madaaubrey8711 3 жыл бұрын
42 views and 64 likes, of course that makes sense
@mhm6421
@mhm6421 Ай бұрын
Think of the worlds as two graphs, randomly intersecting...
@ayaelmaataoui7549
@ayaelmaataoui7549 2 жыл бұрын
i have a theory it's been like a week ago I saw a video which says that when you open a minecraft world it is 3million by 3 million blocks from your spawn point . so if you teleport 3million blocks away from you spawn you'll actually find the border .But which confuses me a lil' bit is that there is still infinite chunks after the border , which means that the worlds are probably one world but the seed controls your spawn point in that infinite world and also the border that is 3million blocks away from the block you spawn on. hope this helps😀😊
@pookie6992
@pookie6992 3 жыл бұрын
omg not only is wifies entertaining and awesome at Minecraft, he’s also extremely smart
@Sup-ih3mt
@Sup-ih3mt 3 жыл бұрын
16:07 look at the background footage! lolol
@anongamercatlover2196
@anongamercatlover2196 2 жыл бұрын
“This Minecraft world is identical to a world you’ve already seen” is where I got spooked a bit because yes, that was, quite literally, a world that looked pretty much identical to one that I have loaded up on my own computer
@MrSilver172
@MrSilver172 Ай бұрын
I'm no expert, but maybe the two identical chunks have something to do with 9223372036854775807 being the 64-bit integer limit?
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