A book should be written on this topic so that the future students can learn from this fiasco as case studies.

We are grateful to Farhan saheb for doing such a beautiful interview to open our eyes.

Capt. Aijaz Haroon hatts off to you sir. You are a proudly soul of this country.

Sir Capt. Ajaz Haroon was marvellous MD of PIA, he worked hard and did the maximum efforts to bring PIA on the track.

I'm deeply impressed by the recent podcast episode on PIA that provided a raw and unfiltered look into the airline's history and its journey through ups and downs. The authenticity of the episode was truly refreshing.This episode was an eye-opener and a commendable effort in shedding light on the complexities of managing a national carrier. U did a Great Job.

only in Pakistan COAS can call and summon MD of national airline lol

Now do podcast on why army is so corrupt

Just for these 2 episodes, I am subsrcibing. Fascinating, well conducted, insightful, shocking but certainly not surprising. Well done.

Hats off to the three gentlemen for stepping forward and speaking the truth .well done!👏🏼 👏🏼 👏🏼

I thoroughly enjoyed the podcast; it was both informative and interesting. The host's knowledge was evident, and his interactive questioning was engaging. However, it would be even better if he allowed the guest to complete his points without interruptions and then asked additional questions. Just my two cents for improvement.

Excellent interview Aijaz Haroon ! Impressive indeed.

It does not look nice to interrupt the host unnecessarily. He should think over it.

Raftar we need a 3 part series about steel mills or should I stay steal mills... great job with Pia podcast

IJAZ BAHI REALLY GOOD TO HEAR YOUR POINT OF YOU. YOU SEEMS TO ME DEVOTED AND HONEST PAKISTANI. STAY SAFE AND BLESSED

​wonderful podcast! WELLDONE TO THE HOST AND THE GUEST :)

Well done sir pak army ke general ki waja se Pakistan ka he Hal ho arha hai 😞

Thoroughly informative. Kudos to the host for doing his homework.

My goodness. There is so much interference by the host. It is total mental torture. Why doesn't the host pose and answer the question. Why does he have to invite any guest

Brilliantly interviewed, and Thanks 😊 to Captain Aijaz Haroon for bringing the facts so boldly. PPP PMLN DESTROYED PIA AND LAST NAIL WAS PUT IN BY PTI.

Great Cap Ejaz Haroon sahib, brilliant,out class spoken,very competent MD he was ,but u know the class of our people, really pia miss this gentleman,Allah bless him nd his family.

Thank you Capt Aaz Haroon for revealing the history behind the PIA disaster. What you say we already knew, from media reports, though not in such details..We are perhaps the only nation on this planet earth, where self-interest dominate to the extreme over common interest of the nation and its people, where the Government, the elite, the feudals, the bureaucrats, judiciary, politicos, generals, Chauderies, Sardars, Waderas, tribal elders, and ever ordinary citizens, all work in tandem for their own mega self-gains in assets, and thereby destroy the fabric and development of the society, and so we have become a beggar nation. The story of PIA is to be found everywhere in all institutions, right up to the level of everyday public dealings.. The honest exceptions are so few that they are lost in oblivion. Privation of PIA is very likely a false hope because it cannot survive on a sinking ship that generates no knowledge, no technology, no wealth, no culture, no human development. The only slight hope for PIA could be the overseas Pakistanis, who must travel to come home to their families. What a depressing environment we live in. (From a scientist and teacher in natural sciences, who spent 60 years of his life in teaching at universities and fundamental research in physical sciences in Pakistan)

Very informative session. Excellent choice of questions by host... Keep up Raftar 👏

We missed PK TK deal that was the only good thing Zardari Sahib was trying to do good.

I remembered at that time our media was portraying a different picture and now when I listened to him this guy made sense. God bless you Captain

With 28 years of airline experience I m a witness of events and had read the TK-PK Agreement and seen the retaliation by Joint Action Committee of PIA Employees. OTHER AGENCIES which facilitated the closure of airports, disruption of operations, and hardships to innocent passengers under instructions of civil leadership has been omitted or edited from the interview. Competent Management truly free from political and all other interference can still turn around the airline and it can remain a national flag carrier.

بالکل درست فرمایا کہ عوام میں ڈسپلن نہیں اور کرپشن بھی کرتے ہیں. صرف یہ دو کام صحیح کر لیں تو ملک ہر میدان میں ترقی کرے گا ان شاء الله.

Your guest ( part 1 ) was right about Trident aircraft. Field Marshal Ayub Khan’s son Gohar Ayub was the salesmen / agent of Trident aircraft company. Moor Khan could not said No.

Captain Ejaz Haroon was one of the best MD PIA.

What he said is 💯 true and he is really one best MD of PIA .

Hats off to the host in bringing this very important thing to the surface

Well done and keep it up. Face is the index of heart and cut. Aijaz Haroon by face is looking satisfied and thorou gentleman. May Allah bless him ❤

Host should allow to guest let him speak please don’t interrupt the guest if you’re doing this podcast for yourself then don’t put on KZfaq

You were the best CEO of PIA, and this is your curse on PIA that it is finished today!

Thanks raftar for clearing my doubts in my childhood my father was keep telling me that pia have sold their long routes to other airlines which caused the airline to current position but i will definitely refer this video to him and huge respect for aijaz haroon because now he earned a huge respects among common man after this podcast

There is gold scattered under the soil and in the sky of Pakistan, but unfortunately we cannot take advantage of it.

very informative, appreciate your contribution for incrase our information about PIA and PK, TK .. , Unfortunately PIA died soon.

Great podcast , highlighted real burning issues prevailing in PIA or in all SOEs, political parties have no vision for the development of country.

Thank you for your effort Ejaz Haroon sb,. Great podcast Raftar. I will certainly share it.

Really appreciated to conduct such a open and clear podcast with ex MD PIA.

Feel bad for the taxpayers and especially for genuine people like Ejaz Haroon, who put all the efforts but the corrupt system failed him.

An excellent series. What a wonderful and magical personality of Aijaz sb is. He has shared whole story very briefly and concisely. Wish we could have executed Pk-Tk agreement; things would have entirely different now. Pia lost his direction strategically and not tactically as he has shared his experiences. I am sure and pray that his vision and experience along with his team would be availed once again to revive civil aviation in Pakistan sooner than later. Love you sir 🌹🌺❤️❤️

This is one of the PODCASTS I have watched full in 100%. Questions and answers were perfectly arranged and presented 👍🏻🇵🇰👍🏻🇵🇰

Love you Sir Aijaz Haroon,

Thank you Raftar for putting this up and making it easier for us to tell other people who are not aware of aviation in Pakistan.I have personally seen the union flag in one of the hangars of PIA and I knew instantly what went wrong.

I am pained to learn this. Wishing you and pia well from India.

I appreciate what you are doing to keep the history alive not to keep inboxes and our youth will learn how we have gem person in our institute's excellent podcast PIA is so close to our heart as an overseas Pakistani no one can imagine and when are watching to sinking is hard to analyze how it's happening so thanks again for the podcast.

Great podcast sir. Thank for the history of PIA now we know what actually happened

salute to Ijaz Haroon..love both of you..keep it up..

Great work by Raftar.. Thanks for the great content..

Discipline will only come when RULE OF LAW is applied without. Sparing rich or the poor !! Yani insaf ho aur hota howa nazr aae

Very informative, very realistic, very practical with sincere emotions of Aijaz Haroon. I have carefully listened and analysed each word of this podcast and finally conclude that the root cause of failure of Pakistan is the absence of real ownership of the State and her departments. The day the State and her departments are in the hands of real owners, our each problem will be resolved.

Thankyou for this podcast. I thoroughly enjoyed every moment. My love for PIA will always be there but disappointment also stays that its own People didn't see the future of their own Organisation at this present state

the PK-TK formula was excellent , I dont know why it was not worked .

Ejaz Haroon can still help PIA out of crices. Don't think we have to sell this airline. It will be shame on Pakistan government..

Unbelievable!!! I wish this deal had gone through

1:26:00 the moment he throws his life long understanding down the drain. Otherwise great effort Raftar team. Continue the good work.

Yes, of course Khurshid Shah had used the same method earlier, 50 crore bid of Rohri cement factory privatisation was stopped through union. Shah Sahib's frontman wanted to buy that factory for only eight crores. Captain sb. is absolutely correct.

70 years ago an unknown and proud Pakistani named A Salam returned home to contribute to the development of a young country. He was ostracised, ridiculed, rebuked, discriminated, insulted until he could no longer take it. He didn't see a future for himself. Aijaz Haroon is among the tens of thousands, maybe not be in the same category, but true and very able patriots who want to bring about a change, have been badly let down by the dishonest system. In 70 years we have gone from bad to worse. For God's sake who is behind all this? Are we a cursed nation?

Use this comments like button as a request for PART 3 of who crashed PIA

Thank you so much for bringing such a valuable piece of information

Great series of podcasts and thank you for bringing out the perspective that had not been said loud enough. A humble request to interviewer to please let the guest elaborate on their ideas if we can sit through and enjoy a 2 hour long conversation. We will certainly listen to more from you as well.

Good. Interesting podcast 👍

Ejaz Haroon you did a great job 👍 from Qatar 🇶🇦

I have watched both the episodes on PIA and enjoyed. Your art of bringing the facts out of your guests is marvellous. Please do such episodes on Pakistan Railways.

So sad to know that how the PATRIOTS and honest persons were wasted and the donkies are every where.

Lovely podcast and brave effort to expose sensitive wrongdoings like corruption.

I still remember when I was in the same room with our team briefing the progress of Crew Scheduling and Roaster monitoring application in 2001 to Ahmad Saeed and the team, and he was telling off his staff for not supporting us. We were the outsourced company to develop the application but they didn’t even let us start. It is a shame to see now PIA at the brink of collapse.

Wonderful. AMAZING STORY OF PIA....

PKTK could have been game changer 💔

Loved to Watch all the podcast of 01:32:58, and thank you for Sir Ijaz Haroon Sb for all the facts. and Special thanks to Raftar to arrange all this. Thanks

As an outsider to everything (Paakistan, PIA, Paakistan political landscape, micro-macro equations between people/ organisations).. i do feel like some of what he said.. has merits. Lekin ek cheez hamesha hoti hai: nothing is ever purely 'black and white'. There always are grey areas.. and there ALWAYS is more than what meets the eye. . Like i said, I am an outsider.. i am from India and never personally crossed the border. . Lekin yeh jo 'hum tou jee clean-up kar ke, corruption hataney aaye hein' waali lollipop.. we often get it. This exact same claim was made by the post-2014 NDA government (basically BJP) here in India.. when the then defence minister claimed to have weeded out the middlemen.. kickbacks (bribes) during procurement. . So if i invested more than three hours.. watching both interviews (part 1 and this) back to back. I surely might have some genuine hook.. in it. . Largely i do feel like his strong political background, his family already being well entrenched on both sides of the border. Well.. things could not have been as simple as: i happened to be there and despite no personal interest.. I became the surety for Mister Ten percent. . Obviously the dumps that PIA is in.. needs the final solution of privatisation. Yehi yahaan bhi hua.. aur ho raha hai. Almost all profit making PSUs (public sector undertakings) are declared unfit to be run or shown with bulging liabilities.. then sold for a pittance.. aur phir raat-o-raat unki kaaya-palat ho jaati hai. They get turned around and at times .. even sold of piecemeal by the new owners. . The rot in PIA is unfortunately not just of PIA.. but our collective cultural identity. 'chalta hai' attitude, bureaucratic and political meddling and the near total collapse of adherence to even the most basic safety issues. PK-743 ka 2017 waala incident ho (7 passengers in aisle) ya phir CAA air baakiyon ki shoddy final report .. on some of the most tragic crashes. . These cultural things are endemic to our region. And I daresay that mere privatisation .. by itself.. would not necessarily make it as safe an airline.. even if it turns profitable. . I was deeply pained by the loss of Junaid ji (Junaid Jamshed) and others. And this would continue happening in the private sector too.. unless more broad-based changes are brought in. . This interview was insightful but I felt like Farhanji handled Aijaz ji with (for the pack of a more mellow term) kid gloves. Or may be those parts are edited out. Aap ek salikey-daar rishta qaayam rakhne ke chaltey.. jyada probing nahin kar paaye.

Ayan Ali and others Money Laundering through airports & flights needed to be probed in too.

Best podcast

I'm from India my request to host is to don't interrupt in middle don't break the flow unnecessary let him speak nd make his point when u interrupt decision goes other way. We r also learning from ur experiences so that we don't do the same mistakes. Btw It was a good podcast nd I have watched ur previous podcast on same topic😊

Very brilliant analysis. Keep it up.

MD Aijaz haroon work hardwork for National airline PK TK is very good planed.Aghar yeh us waqat implement ho jata tu aaj airline sell honay per na hoti aur profit main hoti..Pakistan main koi system nahi hay peoples need is own benefits they don't want company on profit seb airlines court share per chaltain hain it's verygreat planed which was unfortunately not implemented . We are all proud of you, Captain Aijaz, for your best effort & work..

This is a very wonderful interview which is enough to open the eyes of the whole Nation. Allah has given everything to Pakistan but the unfortunate thing is that those people are also present among us who are busy in not appreciating the gifts given by Allah because They feel that this way their caste pride gets hurt in some way or the other.

As an ex PIA employee I must say we missed TK-PK. more precisely, one major factor of disaster is NS

Please also take up HBL New York closure with heavy penalty and huge cost of winding down payments.

WOW! One of the best podcasts.

Thank you for sharing this..

Luvd it thnx raftar team.

This podcast is excellently produced, and among the most articulated that I ever listened. The situation of PIA, mirrors the current state of Pakistan. The narrative highlights rampant injustice, pervasive corruption, and a prevalent self-serving mindset, all of which are contributing to the country's decline. These factors are not only crippling Pakistan but also foreshadow the inevitable downfall and disintegration of PIA. I always wonder if it was really worth creating a saperate country when we were not honest and neither deserved it....

Really enjoyed 2 podcast on PIA

Air hostess issue could have been dealt with by showing this as a safety issue, rather then discriminating aunties based on weight and age they should have been weeded out in fitness tests as the primary responsibility of cabin crew is safety of passengers. I’m sure 99% OAP aunties & uncles would not have made it…

We are corrupt nation which equate to corrupt politicians. Once we make our self straight system will follow. Good job host Farhan and your guest PIA former MD.

@Mallick Sahab, quite informative talk. I wonder if raising questions is going to get yourself or your guests in trouble. Just saying this because no pillar of state is functioning properly and rule of law happens to be dead already.

Totally agreed team rafter we are the real record holders of land of lost opportunities we did not allowed merit intellectual people we all are main reasons today im sitting in amsterdam far away from my mother land sindh Pakistan because of some illetrate hijackers of freedom people

Please continue exposing under the carpet burning national issues. The upcoming elections are so critical to Pakistan and the nation that must held fair and free with participation of all political parties without discrimination.

Very beautiful and the problems highlighted by ex MD are real and thought provoking.

Amazing programme - well done!

A former PIA Chief refused Bhutto's request to hire an air hostess who was rejected due to her weight. Also, the same PIA chief was asked by Bhutto not to take action against a PIA official who was proved to in in corruption but again he decline.

Salam bhai Musharraf Rasool Cyan was also dismissed from position of M.D P.I.A for no reason. It would be good to hear his view point. Please call him on your programme.

We need more discussions like this with concerned professionals to make masses understand the stories behind.

I watched this episode. First, I would like to commend you for the insightful topics you bring to the audience. However, I would like to share some constructive feedback regarding the interview style. I noticed that the guest was frequently interrupted, which made it challenging to fully grasp their perspectives. While I understand the dynamic nature of conversations, allowing the guest more time to express their views without interruption could enhance the depth and clarity of the discussion. Respectful and attentive listening is as vital as asking the right questions. It not only offers the guest the respect they deserve but also enriches the experience for your audience. I believe these adjustments could significantly elevate the quality and engagement of your podcast.

When Noor Khan was at helm as CHAIRMAN/MD, he wanted to appoint Enver Jamal as MD. The PM Office objected because of Conflicts of Interest, stating that family business concerns of Enver Jamal supplied uniforms etc to PIA. It was only after Enver Jamal's family disassociated from this contract was he appointed as MD.

Thanks for putting the video. Really informative! I am a bit surprised why the whole story for meeting with the Army chief at 57.05 got removed.

A very informative podcast . Thank you Raftar .

Very informative and well done, PLEASE ease on constant interruption, ler the guest finish their statements, we would like to hear what they started to say. Ot was extremely frustrating to put up with contestant interruption. Pther then that, I watched both parts of the PIA.

This channel is soo underrated.. To the point and facts oriented… hope our nation gives views to channel like this rather than viewing silly contents in millions.. :)