Untold Story of The Worst Balanced Game Ever

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rndThursday

rndThursday

Күн бұрын

Out of all the games to have ever gamed, this one, Dead by Daylight, is the most ridiculously imbalanced. Somehow, the game manages to be horrifically imbalanced on both sides. It is both Killer and Survivor-sided. A marvel of modern engineering. Idk how, but it stands above all other asymmetric games in that regard.
The disinterested affect is a thematic choice. It might be dead by daylight, but I’m dead inside.
Throughout Heaven and Earth, it alone is The Imbalanced One.
Although I do poke fun at the developers, especially Mathieu, in this video, it is all just for memes. Mathieu Cote? More like Mathieu Goat.
I'd also like to thank all the content creators who archived all of these broken clips. Thank you all.
Alan sleep.
Intro: 0:00-0:23
Asymmetric games: 0:24-1:09
Dead by Daylight: 1:10-2:32
Newtons 3rd law: 2:33-4:33
Hatch standoffs: 4:34-5:54
Speedrunning games: 5:55-8:29
You don't get to play: 8:30-10:07
Halloween: 10:08-13:06
Can't see sh*t: 13:07-14:29
Bullies with flashlights: 14:30-19:53
Meta: 19:54-25:04
Admin, he's doing it sideways: 25:05-25:19
Revenge of the Killers: 25:20-30:18
Healing: 30:19-33:00
Darn: 33:01-36:03
Oink: 36:04-38:30
Today: 38:31-38:40
Notable mentions: 38:41-38:50
He said the thing: 38:51-39:09
Why play it then?: 39:10- 39:28
Oh god. The Twins: 39:29-41:01
I love Mathieu: 41:02:
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@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 ай бұрын
More like Alan Sleep
@oxenfree8373
@oxenfree8373 2 ай бұрын
Kekekek gotteeeeem
@Mr.Man_tcg
@Mr.Man_tcg 2 ай бұрын
so real
@urboi7125
@urboi7125 2 ай бұрын
Alan wake chapter was hot garbage 😭
@Frostycrypton
@Frostycrypton 2 ай бұрын
Ligma balls.
@dr.archaeopteryx5512
@dr.archaeopteryx5512 2 ай бұрын
Alan wake me up inside
@camoking3609
@camoking3609 2 ай бұрын
One comment I've seen that perfectly captures DBD's history is this "The game isnt survivor sided or killer sided, it's asshole sided"
@pokiedokie24
@pokiedokie24 2 ай бұрын
omg this is so frickin true
@mj_out
@mj_out 2 ай бұрын
U nailed it.
@emilgebl8644
@emilgebl8644 2 ай бұрын
The people that play DBD are furries and just weird people. No one with good taste in games would play this game.
@BGrimmart
@BGrimmart 2 ай бұрын
That's so on point it's not even funny
@avocadothecat
@avocadothecat 2 ай бұрын
Holy shit I'll steal this. It's so true!! I am personally a casual gamer (tm) so I'm rarely the asshole (I think) but man o man have other people in that game done shit to me. After playing since 2017 I grew thick skin. Not much gets me to have a real reaction any more - but sometimes some people still manage.
@thespiffingbrit
@thespiffingbrit Ай бұрын
I love that the dev approved solution for if you are upset with ballance is to just play civilization 6 a famously perfectly balanced game
@zkiller6918
@zkiller6918 Ай бұрын
Dbd is too perfectly balanced for even you to touch.
@rndThursday
@rndThursday Ай бұрын
a perfectly balanced comment. im in awe
@KuueenKumi
@KuueenKumi Ай бұрын
Omg, Spiff!
@_blanck2298
@_blanck2298 Ай бұрын
This game is to balance. You wont be able to break it 😂😂😂
@goldeneyekiller101
@goldeneyekiller101 Ай бұрын
@@rndThursday A perfectly balanced Reply!
@muffetmissulena6540
@muffetmissulena6540 2 ай бұрын
You know a game and its community is bad when the playerbase has to make up their own rules and get mad when said made up rules aren’t followed.
@crack4184
@crack4184 2 ай бұрын
Call Of Duty
@valakinemtom7642
@valakinemtom7642 Ай бұрын
Small correction: rule #1 exists in rocket league and it's a by definition perfectly balanced game
@roguewave5187
@roguewave5187 Ай бұрын
to an extent every game has some form of silent social rules, like griefing your team by blocking things, targetting 1 person or just being toxic is BM regardless of which side you're on. But with that said, yeah DBDs balancing issues are really bad lmao
@williamdrum9899
@williamdrum9899 29 күн бұрын
Magic the Gathering's Commander format:
@richardinis
@richardinis 29 күн бұрын
​@@crack4184cod community has absolutely no rules except in sniper 1v1s
@bigmetalfan1
@bigmetalfan1 2 ай бұрын
>be me >19 >work 16 hour shift >get home >"ill try to unwind after a terrible day" >bootup dbd as Michael Myers >proceed to get teamed up on by 4 very coordinated bills >"well it happens, onto the next ma-" >*you have received a message* >*is a meme of the dark souls knight telling me to "git gud" I havent played it since lol. Loved the gameplay but its taxing
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 ай бұрын
lmaooo. id rather work in the mines than trying to play DBD for any length of time. fun for a bit, but wears you down
@MisterSomeone12271
@MisterSomeone12271 6 күн бұрын
@bigmetalfan1 Cringe and go back to working, average discord mod.
@bigmetalfan1
@bigmetalfan1 6 күн бұрын
@MisterSomeone12271 peace and love brotha, peace and love
@midori6845
@midori6845 3 күн бұрын
@@MisterSomeone12271touch grass 🙏
@freewifi239
@freewifi239 3 күн бұрын
​@@MisterSomeone12271 Are you okay?
@The_Nametag
@The_Nametag 2 ай бұрын
"Go play another game" is such wonderful advice from the dev. I think I will continue to do so, and not bother giving this game a chance.
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 ай бұрын
most sensible thing a dbd dev has said
@dr.archaeopteryx5512
@dr.archaeopteryx5512 2 ай бұрын
Reminds me of Indie Survival game "The Isle", where the lead dev kept telling people who complained about the game being shoddy to "Just make their own game". Fast forward to now and "Isle clone" has become a niche subgenre that pumps out way more games than the small consumer base can reasonably support
@Wolvahulk
@Wolvahulk 2 ай бұрын
Honestly don't bother. The game has been going in an "objectively" good direction now. It's way more balanced than it used to be. The community still constantly complains and is quite toxic (not everyone but even if they are a minority they're heard all right). To me at least it's become incredibly boring. There's really only one viable playstyle, for both roles.
@Beanibirb
@Beanibirb 2 ай бұрын
I played over 200 hours of DBD and when I finally moved to something else I never looked back at it.
@VitaminCBable
@VitaminCBable 2 ай бұрын
"For a week". I think he's just trying to encourage people to spend some time outside of obsessing over this one thing- which actually is good advice.
@jollygrapefruit786
@jollygrapefruit786 2 ай бұрын
What this game DOES have in common with league is a playerbase who constantly bitches about and bashes the game claiming their undying hatred for it, but still play it every single day for a decade.
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 ай бұрын
1000 hour league player 🤝 1000 hour dbd player this game is trash
@misteral9045
@misteral9045 2 ай бұрын
I've been an onlooker and peanut gallery of the DBD community because I'm so fascinated with their revolving circus of angst, disappointment, boredom, and very rare moments of genuine fun and happiness that seem to fuel the whole thing, combined with the atrocious behavior of the development company in an almost poetically beautiful real life representation of The Entity feeding on emotions. It's fascinating, and entertaining. Kinda like how hating playing No Man's Sky was better than playing NMS when it first released, but stretched out over 8 years with no improvement whatsoever instead of the mud to magnificence story of NMS.
@kael070
@kael070 2 ай бұрын
This is so real wtf ahhhahhahahahaa
@brigyeet3203
@brigyeet3203 2 ай бұрын
I quit playing Dead by Daylight due to having the most toxic community and a greedy inept developer. Without licensed content this game would be dead.
@casheverett6300
@casheverett6300 2 ай бұрын
Everyone who has 1000 hours in a AAA game hates the game they play, but to feed the addiction they must keep playing. This is how I am with overwatch and siege.
@Madame_Talos
@Madame_Talos 2 ай бұрын
"Hey, I used to love playing killer but now they're not good. Can you make killer more fun to play?" "Well have you tried playing survivor?" I can't even think of a funny quip or anything it's just so stupid. Like, I shouldn't have to resort to that? Because it should be fun on both sides?
@dom3833
@dom3833 Ай бұрын
That was such an out of touch comment. Don't think that guy has played a game of DBD in the last 5 years
@DoctorTheo
@DoctorTheo 20 күн бұрын
I want to give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he probably misinterpreted the message, thinking they were saying that killer was getting kinda stale after playing it for so long and not that killer was heavily underpowered
@AzureRoxe
@AzureRoxe 20 күн бұрын
@@DoctorTheo No, he didn't misinterpret, he's done that crap multiple times. The game devs are pretty well known for being either actual morons or a-holes. One dev even snapped at people for them daring to keep asking for a specific accessibility option, only for the rest of the devs reveal said option after the backlash grew massive.
@AdiG1
@AdiG1 18 күн бұрын
Replies like that are quite irksome. There were replies to questions in a Pokémon magazine I had once. One question asked simply "After catching all of the Pokémon and beating the Elite Four, is there anything else?", and the response they got was "What do you expect? A slap-up meal for two?" Like, what was the writer's problem? These were kids they were responding to
@Satans_Kar98k
@Satans_Kar98k 15 күн бұрын
​@@AdiG1to be fair though, that is like the whole point of the games. Like you can't even complete the Pokédex by yourself with just one game
@freshlymemed5680
@freshlymemed5680 2 ай бұрын
My friend gifted me this game. He had a thousand hours on it. I played it for a bit but had to stop because my PC wasn't that good at the time. The following week he told me he quit because the game was bad.
@meltingatom
@meltingatom 2 ай бұрын
The dev being publicly put on display with the flash light gauntlet was painfully funny
@Depressed_Spider
@Depressed_Spider 2 ай бұрын
And it appeared like he took it with grace.
@meltingatom
@meltingatom 2 ай бұрын
@@Depressed_Spider yeah, kinda wish he kept that humility, that "go play a diffrent game" thing was nasty
@bigdumbfatcat2869
@bigdumbfatcat2869 2 ай бұрын
The real painful part is the implication, that the dev wasn't even playing the game or even aware of what was actually happening to his players. What were the the play testers doing? Was anyone on his team playing the game at all and aware of these issue? How was he so oblivious to such a common issue, that he only changed things once he was personally put on the spot? Watching the video i just get the idea that the developers have no real clue what they are doing
@jaryRim
@jaryRim 2 ай бұрын
@@bigdumbfatcat2869 Maybe the playtesters were playing the game "normally" hence don't see the degenerate shit being pulled off in real play, which reminds me of a saying in Magic the Gathering: "Just as Richard Garfield (the creator of MtG) intended". And similarly had a famous story where Richard was playing with a "fan" who was gushing about the game while infinitely locking Richard out from playing the game.
@VampyKitsune
@VampyKitsune 2 ай бұрын
Reminds me of when the Anarchy Reigns Devs got whooped publicly on their unbalanced game Link: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h5h7hsaimKrXpo0.htmlsi=Laam1z-1iETdGksQ
@vnquoctru
@vnquoctru 2 ай бұрын
Basically, the devs don't know how to play their own game and never learned to. So every time they notice something is broken, they nerf Pig.
@Echoe-14
@Echoe-14 Ай бұрын
Genji’s rival
@prettyboyjeremy
@prettyboyjeremy Ай бұрын
Nerf pig. She can move more than 1 MPH. Nerf pig again.
@aaronblack7038
@aaronblack7038 Ай бұрын
@@Echoe-14 Irelia's rival
@derekmarrero6239
@derekmarrero6239 25 күн бұрын
We can call that The pig syndrome
@Manueruwu_
@Manueruwu_ 2 ай бұрын
When I entered this video, I thought you were talking about League of Legends or something like that, and I thought to myself "I wish they knew Identity V, that's unbalanced" and the more I got into the video the more I realized that Identity V was not as unbalanced as I thought it was.
@nightrose6116
@nightrose6116 2 ай бұрын
yeah same i want idv players who constantly whine about the game being unbalanced to watch this video (although gamekeeper and priestess do desperately need adjustments)
@zappchance
@zappchance Ай бұрын
Ahahah yeah idv players don't know what unbalanced looks like
@elgordobondiola
@elgordobondiola Ай бұрын
Idv has survivor roles that specialize in actually rescuing survivors. Also tunneling and camping is effectively incentiviced as it is an effective strategy as well but not as effective as it was in DBD. At its core idv is more balanced than DBD ever will. And that's saying something of a gacha Chinese game.
@Thelostpinetree
@Thelostpinetree Ай бұрын
Legit, i could never get into dead by daylight because of this issue and played idv instead. Idv has its issues with balancing but it is in a much better state currently then DBD…
@atodeblue
@atodeblue 11 күн бұрын
the fact that being camped is something you have to just expect and accept in idv sucks tho. players keep saying it’s a strategy, or that it’s required to win as killer, but that fact doesn’t make the experience more fun. it’s definitely one of the biggest reasons i lost interest in idv. both as a killer and survivor
@Tucher97
@Tucher97 2 ай бұрын
Dead by daylight, if you think the devs are bad, the player base is more so, simply put, "if you are not able to understand exactly everything under 1 second, fuck off"
@ThorDude
@ThorDude Ай бұрын
The community is really what puts me off of this game. Even League doesn't have a community that hates the game so much they actively try to ruin it for others. From in-game to the Subreddit to the forums, everyone who plays this game sucks all around.
@heavensgate2245
@heavensgate2245 Ай бұрын
The Left 4 Dead 2 Versus community in a nutshell
@angel_of_rust
@angel_of_rust Ай бұрын
@@ThorDude it helps that League actually has a decent structure. "assymmetrical" multiplayer game just sounds like a funamentally bad idea
@ZombieKitty321
@ZombieKitty321 Ай бұрын
My fav thing was asking how to get into comp lobby's for practicing, and was told you need at least 1000 hours before you can even join. Thats just there rule. they wont even let you PRACTICE with them until you have 1000 hours. Funniest thing is, ive actually got in one because they said "we will show you how high the skill ceiling is" only for them to get 3ked by a killer who had 400 hours, while the had 7000 collectively. The only reason i didn't 4k was because of the hatch. They are legit delusional. None of them were particularly good might a add, not even as a dig, ive legit had more trouble in solo que, it was such a weird experience i just noped out of that scene right away.
@Tucher97
@Tucher97 19 күн бұрын
@@heavensgate2245 the L4D2 versus community isn't as bad, of course you will get called an idiot and a dumbass for simple mistakes sure but that is roughly tame.
@texasred8424
@texasred8424 2 ай бұрын
i feel like having the response to an oppressive survivor meta be releasing a new killer to counter it is possibly one of the worst decisions you could make to balance your game
@eightheve
@eightheve 2 ай бұрын
exactly this. all it does is force players to pick a specific killer or insta-lose every match, which just saps the fun out of the game. wanna main X? too bad! the only way to win games is to play our brand new killer!
@ultimaxkom8728
@ultimaxkom8728 2 ай бұрын
**Cough loudly** Money.
@Slendich
@Slendich 2 ай бұрын
Nurse is free killer, so they could maybe only sell skins, but still that makes other killers sell less skins if nobody plays them. So lose/lose situation for devs and players.@@ultimaxkom8728
@nagiko9004
@nagiko9004 2 ай бұрын
Sounds like identity V
@dootdoot4148
@dootdoot4148 2 ай бұрын
@@ultimaxkom8728The nurse was a free DLC
@GodSejeong
@GodSejeong 2 ай бұрын
That one segment where the dev is being put to the test against randos and gets beaten pretty bad, humiliated and then realizing that it's not fun is a worrying sign that devs might be laying out ideas, realizing it and do not test how it feels in practice.
@coreo6688
@coreo6688 2 ай бұрын
This is every multiplayer game that is not balanced closely or has pros that help, while I am indiferent about tft (riot games) , mortdog the main guy working on it is challenger (highest rank) and while he isn't the top 50 players from what I remember he has a very good idea of the game
@zxvadcsfbh
@zxvadcsfbh 2 ай бұрын
Valve should do a think where for like a year they hand CS2 over to a brand new cabal of devs who preferably don't play the game, or if they do they are not be allowed to have over 10K ELO. Just to see what kind of bullshit happens and break the brains of the pro scene. Train bots using Donk demos. Fuck it.
@danfelder8062
@danfelder8062 2 ай бұрын
Often how devs *expect* players to play the game isn't how they actually *do* play the game - or something that is a minor issue if it happens infrequently becomes a major issue to any player unlucky enough to experience it many times in a row. Devs are always flying partly blind, no matter how dedicated they are. Even devs who play their game constantly can run into issues because they get USED to the problems and they start to feel 'comfortable' with them. Often playing a game too much numbs you to the major pain points, while exacerbating minor annoyances that might not even bother most players. It's important to regularly play competing games in the genre for this reason, to learn what the standards actually are and remember there are better ways to do things. You also should watch new players, expert players, and a lot of other players streaming to see how they experience the game, read community feedback, etc... All that is completely doable. If you don't have a dayjob. But you also have to make the game. And you should have some hours for things besides the game too. It's a constant resource management puzzle. Very easy to miss things.
@lasskinn474
@lasskinn474 2 ай бұрын
what does the phrase "best weapons" mean if a bunch people don't have them. you're meant to feel bad if you didn't buy the best things.
@kirbycooper9496
@kirbycooper9496 2 ай бұрын
What no QA testers does to a mf
@alluma5133
@alluma5133 2 ай бұрын
Worst game i've ever played in my life. Recieved racism and death threats for using post nerf legion and old clown and never went back. the streamers i played against at old rank 1 were some of the most vile people i've ever interacted with. 4 years clean of this garbage
@heavensgate2245
@heavensgate2245 Ай бұрын
good riddance if you asked me, i did the same for L4D2 Versus
@DOGEELLL
@DOGEELLL 16 күн бұрын
Good thing bro the people that play this game and the game itself is garbage I might put it in my list of the worst overrated game of all time its that bad along with fortnite league ect
@pidge3618
@pidge3618 2 ай бұрын
I do think a big problem feels as a killer is how long it takes for Survivor stuff to get nerfed compared to survivors use of abusing it, whereas killer feels like it gets nerfed way quicker
@CaptainDoomsday
@CaptainDoomsday Ай бұрын
There is absolutely a bias, presumably because the game wants a 4:1 ratio, meaning Survivors being happy with the role is more valuable to the devs that Killers' enjoyment.
@bignoob75300
@bignoob75300 17 күн бұрын
It's to make the game better for new players (mainly new survivors)
@athrielleviera678
@athrielleviera678 17 күн бұрын
Ruin/Undying killer meta lasted three months. Unbreakable/Decisive strike meta lasted 5 years. There's a pretty clear bias, like you said.
@bignoob75300
@bignoob75300 17 күн бұрын
@@athrielleviera678 only three months I thought it was at least a year
@microwafel9907
@microwafel9907 2 ай бұрын
Player: "Hey im not really having a good time playing your game because its so unbalanced" Dev "Well fuckin play something else, or have you concidered taking a nap?"
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 ай бұрын
i wonder what the person who wrote that is doing now
@yannickgrignon2473
@yannickgrignon2473 2 ай бұрын
​@@rndThursday hopefully playing Civ VI
@microwafel9907
@microwafel9907 2 ай бұрын
@rndThursday youd think playing something else
@SyndicateOperative
@SyndicateOperative 2 ай бұрын
@@yannickgrignon2473 Civ 6 was so shit that they had to give away free copies of it in order to get a player base.
@oshwaflz
@oshwaflz 2 ай бұрын
​@@SyndicateOperative as a civ noob ive always liked it, whats so wrong with it?
@HealingBlight
@HealingBlight 2 ай бұрын
There is a term called "dogfooding" where the person who makes a product/service, actually consumes the product/service. (The root being a dogfood producer being so confident in the quality of their food they would be willing to eat it) Dogfooding is important in game development because without it you end up with situations like that twitch stream at 17:30. The dev clearly spends so much time looking at forests that he doesn't know what a tree is.
@someaccount5200
@someaccount5200 2 ай бұрын
I mean, playing the game is important cause you can then see how you can improve your balance decisions on the game in the future until you decide to stop it
@robertnomok9750
@robertnomok9750 2 ай бұрын
DBD devs are the most out of touch devs out there. They proudly admit that they dont play their own game and have no idea about anything. They just use some flawed statistic for their work.
@Darkstar198
@Darkstar198 2 ай бұрын
​@@someaccount5200 That would be a good point, but that only happens if the devs can maintain impartiality and objectivity when researching potential balance problems or coming up with improvements; those who are not just play testing but consuming their own product tend to fall victim to the same biases that consumers do.
@ultimaxkom8728
@ultimaxkom8728 2 ай бұрын
@@Darkstar198 I'd even argue that devs generally have stronger but more hidden biases than players at large. That's why outside feedback is important.
@dungeaterfancam
@dungeaterfancam 2 ай бұрын
@@robertnomok9750the final decision is up to lead designers and they almost never play their own games. Even if the game studios had a big round table weekly meeting where they consulted all their employees on game balance you would still have a majority of people have no idea what they’re talking about. Imagine working on a game, staring at character models, playtesting the content, coding, receiving community feedback (death threats) AND going home and launching the game that you work on. If someone does it, it’s like 2-3 people in the company who do not represent the playerbase with its varying playstyles and skill levels. What you’re left with is relying on community feedback, but look at any community of a pvp game, these people couldn’t give a crap about “balance”, they want their main to be strong and screw everybody else who’s trying to enjoy the game. Especially in DbD where everyone wants their own. Not only are skill levels juxtaposed but the roles aren’t your Overwatch variety of “character archetype” in a team of 5-6, it’s one strong character chosen from a roster with drastic differences in power levels and a team of four weak characters who function the same. Imagine asking someone who mains an F-tier killer in mid-ranks for their opinions on balancing the whole killer roster in *all* ranks. It’s not possible to keep the no-lifers who spend hours on the game daily happy while not scaring the beginner players with the likes of Pig who still absolutely stomps noobs while getting nerfed every few months. The devs are very much average in how they treat the game balance compared to other companies, the game itself just has an extremely peculiar design and a playerbase that is never happy and doesn’t actually know what it wants.
@ScumRat42
@ScumRat42 2 ай бұрын
To be fair balancing an asymmetrical game sounds very hard. I can’t imagine there could be anything more difficult to balance than that.
@collinsnow2203
@collinsnow2203 Ай бұрын
Oftentimes the issue for me isn’t even the balance of the asymmetrical game I’m playing, it’s that usually one side is way more fun to play than the other which means 50% of the time I’m guaranteed to not have fun just on a base level. In DBD I’d want to play the killer all the time because that sounds more fun to me than playing walking away sneakily simulator, like if ykyk
@ScumRat42
@ScumRat42 Ай бұрын
@@collinsnow2203 Survivor is like only fun with friends.
@huckmart2017
@huckmart2017 Ай бұрын
I think left 4 dead had the right approach. Every match players swap sides and play as both the infected, and survivors. Even if survivors were stronger than infected at high levels, it didn't matter as much because both sides had to play rounds as infected.
@ScumRat42
@ScumRat42 Ай бұрын
@@huckmart2017 That’s good example of proper asymmetrical balancing. Too bad they couldn’t make Back for Blood as good as that.
@ScumRat42
@ScumRat42 Ай бұрын
@@collinsnow2203Survivor is only really fun to play with at least one friend I feel.
@_Boobbert_
@_Boobbert_ 2 ай бұрын
The duality of ‘oh look, another blight’ and ‘it’s a Freddy?!?!’
@majorghoul9017
@majorghoul9017 2 ай бұрын
Sometimes when I play Killer, I feel like I actively have to hold myself back or else the game won't be fair. Other matches I literally don't get to do anything as three gens pop at the same time during the first chase. Also the fact that the same killer has been the best in the entire game for all eight years of its existence is telling of how poorly balanced the game can be
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 ай бұрын
we need a group therapy session cuz same
@danirodriguez3682
@danirodriguez3682 2 ай бұрын
Same. And on the same killer too. I try to hook everyone at least once before deciding how sweaty I’m going to play. But if I double hook everyone at 5 or 4 gens I normally just let them all go. Matches like that aren’t really fun for anyone. And then the next match I’ll get curb stomped by a bunch of no migher bunny fengs with sniper rifle flashlights and head on. The matchmaking bands must be incredibly wide.
@smurfsmurf4502
@smurfsmurf4502 2 ай бұрын
​@@danirodriguez3682 it bothers me that tunneling is just the best strategy in a lot of situations, just knock this survivor out and gens (on paper) go 75% speed, especially if you can manage to hook them next to an already partially repaired generator, and then just play within a certain area of the hook until theyre dead, only giving chase if you know for a fact this survivor will be downed. Shit, you dont even have to hook camp them all the way just to second stage and then remember whos on their last. Like I have yet to see a proper counter to just "fuck this guy in particular". You have to bodyblock and even then, its not hard to get around a bodyblock or simply just take the free hit and continue tunneling. Shame to admit I did this when I was new, nowadays i dont really bother doing anything boring i just chase survivors and kick a gen if its convenient. I just play to win chases because the chase is the fun part of the game, and i dont care about my rank? Its literally more fun in lower ranks where people are running weird builds, gens are done at a reasonable rate, ect. billy aura build still the most fun thing on the planet, crossmap chainsaw hits are the best thing to do its so fun, esp with the perk that lets you see survivors at the start of the game, they dont realize im coming right for them off the rip
@athath2010
@athath2010 2 ай бұрын
IMO, it's fine for the same killer to be top tier for multiple years as long as that killer is fun to play as/play against/watch. Dunno if the Nurse meets that description, mind.
@majorghoul9017
@majorghoul9017 2 ай бұрын
@@athath2010 yeah exactly. I'm fine with Spirit, Blight and Huntress being so high-tier because they're interesting to fight and actually interact with the map geometry
@dronnovik95
@dronnovik95 2 ай бұрын
The funniest thing about this developer match in Korea is that after that Hag difficulty tag was changed from "easy" to "hard"
@linkibear8644
@linkibear8644 2 ай бұрын
Intermediate to hard but yeah. You know what's funny? One day, someone's gonna reply with a nerd emoji to this reply here.
@KkachiKashaKarma
@KkachiKashaKarma 2 ай бұрын
​@@linkibear8644 👰🏿‍♂️
@KnightEnjoyer69
@KnightEnjoyer69 2 ай бұрын
​@@linkibear8644😎
@HenriqueRJchiki
@HenriqueRJchiki 2 ай бұрын
​@@linkibear8644🤓
@justletmecomment6453
@justletmecomment6453 2 ай бұрын
🤓 ​@@linkibear8644
@BlueLightningHawk
@BlueLightningHawk 2 ай бұрын
It's not just the most unbalanced game btw, it's also the most toxic game. It at the very least makes it to the top 10 most toxic games I've ever played.
@Sykroid
@Sykroid 19 күн бұрын
Predecessor is even worse, believe it or not. I don't get t-bagged and flashlight clicked into oblivion there, but everybody hates their own teammates just as much as they hate the enemy team.
@Alex-oj8po
@Alex-oj8po 2 ай бұрын
When I still played R6 Siege many years ago, they would solely balanced the game based off statistics too (mainly pick rates vs win rates and nothing else) and it would lead to just random nonsensical nerfs that anyone who played the game couldn't understand why. Glad to be vindicated with yet more obvious proof that this is the absolute worst way to balance a game, because I never saw anyone else complaining about this surprisingly
@razorback9999able
@razorback9999able 2 ай бұрын
Then how to properly balance a game as a game developer? You don't think of balancing a game, is that all?
@Alex-oj8po
@Alex-oj8po 2 ай бұрын
@@razorback9999able I think nonsense decisions come from relying too much on stats, games are too complicated to treat it like a balance sheet where they try to hit magical 50-50 win rates on everything. Stats don't come close to telling the whole story of why things are the way they are. The best way would also be the most time consuming so I understand why they don't do it - playing the game with the community and taking feedback
@KittyTheKat441
@KittyTheKat441 Ай бұрын
IMO the main issue with trying to balance through stats is that it ignores making the game actually fun to play. Players don't actually notice or care a lot of the time if something is statistically slightly better than something else but feels similar to use. However, they will notice if you nerf said thing in tangible ways that make it less effective. The goal of balance shouldn't really be to make it as even as flipping a coin, but to be as enjoyable for the players as possible.
@sylfraeaveniore2684
@sylfraeaveniore2684 Ай бұрын
​@@KittyTheKat441the stats didn't also take into consideration the time allotments the players had. Prolly need to separate players with 30 hrs experience from the newbies. 50 hrs separated from 30 hrs, 100 hrs separated from 50, etc.
@user-tv2yu7ee5j
@user-tv2yu7ee5j 2 ай бұрын
when i read the title i knew it was dead by daylight
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 ай бұрын
every dbd player be like: "true"
@whbh2243
@whbh2243 2 ай бұрын
@@rndThursday true
@shonen991
@shonen991 2 ай бұрын
true
@somethigIguess
@somethigIguess 2 ай бұрын
True
@rude_wredne
@rude_wredne 2 ай бұрын
no you did not, npc comment
@Amalvipls
@Amalvipls 2 ай бұрын
>developer only realizes his game is fucked when he is coaxed into playing a match on a korean tv program >he hadn't played his game and didn't know the state it was in What the fuck man
@Fay7666
@Fay7666 Ай бұрын
he basically said "skill issue" before getting *MASSIVELY* _skill issue'd_
@Larzang
@Larzang 2 ай бұрын
Not only the most unbalanced game, but also with one of if not THE most toxic gaming communities out there. *BUT WAIT! There's more!* DbD also has some of the most virulent cases of "Stockholm Syndrome" out of every other game out there. A lot us have tried quitting several times by now, and live in a perpetual state of raging at the very thought or mention of DbD... But because of the unique sort of addiction that this game can inflict on you? We still keep coming back to *SUFFER* it, time and time again. DbD, in essence, is the EPITOME of the meme phrase: "Not even once". Seriously, if you've never played this game? Don't do it. *Avoid it like the plague, if you know what's good for you.*
@RobynnCS
@RobynnCS Ай бұрын
Death is not an escape
@The_Real_Lysol_Towlette
@The_Real_Lysol_Towlette Ай бұрын
Me with Warframe
@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor
@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor Ай бұрын
Dead by Daylight's toxicity really is magnificent. Never in any other game I've played (No, I haven't played League) have I encountered such excessive vitriol. And I played Overwatch competitive.
@LilacHeather
@LilacHeather Ай бұрын
I escaped for over a year and a half and mistakenly played a match after missing it like you would miss a line of cocaine. Now I’m trapped again 😢
@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor
@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor Ай бұрын
@@LilacHeather I'm so sorry to hear.
@Brycewallker
@Brycewallker 2 ай бұрын
“Just go play another game” is such a great advice that most people never take 😭
@VanceHelw
@VanceHelw 2 ай бұрын
When dev dude picked Hag i thought it was some kind of weird flex at the time because Hag was bottom tier, but then i realized that he's just a complete noob who had no idea what he's doing.
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 ай бұрын
it was his favorite actually! idk if it still is, just remember him saying that at the time
@siei3i37
@siei3i37 2 ай бұрын
2024 and you still don't know his name?
@BootySweat4491
@BootySweat4491 Ай бұрын
@@siei3i37What does the year have to do with knowing an obscure developer’s name?
@angel_of_rust
@angel_of_rust Ай бұрын
@@siei3i37 who needs to
@siei3i37
@siei3i37 Ай бұрын
@@angel_of_rust I mean if he still plays DBD then it's kinda crazy that he still doesn't know his name
@shishi6201
@shishi6201 2 ай бұрын
when I saw the title, I dismissed the video as some hyperbolic-clickbait nonsense. I later click on it out of curiosity, and oh my god dude, I am sorry for ever doubting you
@protosopic6398
@protosopic6398 2 ай бұрын
LOL
@OtakuUnitedStudio
@OtakuUnitedStudio 2 ай бұрын
It takes a lot of class to admit something like that publicly. Good on you.
@hydrospex6330
@hydrospex6330 2 ай бұрын
I was in the same boat. Wth
@user-is8nn1sb1n
@user-is8nn1sb1n 2 ай бұрын
i clicked and watched fully and just prooved myself it was a waste of time
@prez.cookie980
@prez.cookie980 Ай бұрын
Been playing dbd since 2017. Every part of this video rattled me, it's like going to a senior center with Vietnam war footage
@glowdonk
@glowdonk 2 ай бұрын
Who knew the scariest thing about a horror game is the fact it's unbalanced and not because of the horror
@ChrisHansenofTheHiddenLeaf
@ChrisHansenofTheHiddenLeaf 2 ай бұрын
God, hearing this man say... "Balanced Landing" in the same section as old Haddonfield gave me PTSD flashbacks
@reagansido5823
@reagansido5823 2 ай бұрын
I like that footage of a Spirit bargaining with survivors to drop their flashlight to be let go. That's pretty funny.
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 ай бұрын
i like to domesticate the survivors i play against
@CaptainPilipinas
@CaptainPilipinas 2 ай бұрын
​​​@@rndThursday ​ 01. is, that....the eve online franchise's (00:00)? 02. '-of The Worst Balanced Game Ever'. (Shortly, for now): Feh. those 'fellows', Majority on the Destinyverses franchise's (More so about their own PvP/player-only multiplayer. one of the root causes of bungo's current IP's state) section is relatively Fitting for that, yes (to This Day still. meanwhile, a bit sad for the Destiny 1 game's then. still having a forever, update-less, Broken Crucible section of modes ever since bungo and us all moved forward into the 'sequel''s lifespan). for a Big Example. (Gameplay-wise speaking).
@blazaybla22
@blazaybla22 2 ай бұрын
@@CaptainPilipinasAre you okay?
@MercuryHg34
@MercuryHg34 Ай бұрын
@@blazaybla22 Keep in mind his comment was edited. So this unreadable brain diarrhea is what resulted from them trying to fix what was presumably worse before. I shudder to imagine.
@someguywithawi-ficonnectio931
@someguywithawi-ficonnectio931 Ай бұрын
​@@CaptainPilipinaswhat the fuck?
@TheDonaldduck911
@TheDonaldduck911 2 ай бұрын
Making a dev go through the suffering they themselves create and in such a public display was one of the most satisfying stories I've ever heard of. I'll even take it one step further and call it a fantasy come true. One step further you say? If they were to make a reality show out of that concept alone I would watch it.
@kadendannenberg2897
@kadendannenberg2897 2 ай бұрын
I would love a show where the devs of games that have horribly unhappy communities are forced to see the problems in their game live.
@Yamartim
@Yamartim Ай бұрын
next step is make the executives who order microtransactions and lootboxes to be added into games be forced to obtain all the random items without spending money
@CaptainDoomsday
@CaptainDoomsday Ай бұрын
Call it "The Grind" and challenge devs of games with a lot of backlash to reach one of the highest MMR tiers. If they win it's a big sponsorship bundle but if they give up they have to live with the shame of it being televised.
@hussainhassan4637
@hussainhassan4637 26 күн бұрын
Ive never played dbd amd dont intend to (especially after watching this lmao) but seeing the community manager die inside when director said to play a different game is one of the funniest things ive ever seen lmao
@vincentninja68
@vincentninja68 2 ай бұрын
"Players will optimize the fun out of a game if given the opportunity" - Soren Johnson
@MrDrury27
@MrDrury27 2 ай бұрын
it should be noted that Soren Johnson was the lead designer of Civilization IV "It's a good game, just play that!"
@Sip_Dhit
@Sip_Dhit 2 ай бұрын
Yup its important to make your game have reliable vector of enjoyment that are parallel to those of success.
@maybelater2010
@maybelater2010 2 ай бұрын
I firmly stand behind the fact that players ruin games just as much as devs do. People have been meta slaving and tryharding since before streamers and the big KZfaq boom simply because people will do anything to win because their fun isn't drawn from the games they play, its from how well they do at said games. It's a people problem, from the devs lack of legwork to the abrasive playerbases who make playing these games insufferable. People need to teach their kids not everything is about winning and the experience of doing what you like is more important than perceiving yourself as being really good at doing what you like.
@animeanime7849
@animeanime7849 2 ай бұрын
@@maybelater2010I don’t really mind people who try their best to win. That’s on the devs to make the meta non-toxic. When I blame the players is things like bully squads who aren’t trying to win and just waste as much time as possible
@famulanrevengeance3044
@famulanrevengeance3044 Ай бұрын
@@maybelater2010 From a young age it's drilled into your head that you get rewarded for doing the correct thing / giving the right answer, and punished if you do anything but that. I think some people may be very susceptible to this and don't have the space in their mind to consider why they have to do this or any other option. They just have to exploit, cheat, metaslave and ruin any semblance of fun or variety. Now combine this with basically 0 consequences in online gaming and most importantly; unable to choose who you play with (If you act like a dick, nobody is gonna play with you anymore in real life) and you end up with a small % of toxic players ruining it for the rest.
@commanderdemonno9819
@commanderdemonno9819 2 ай бұрын
i had a much less important comment before don't worry about it 5:47 was such an outplay what the hell pretend to go put away your plate because the other player's watching your stream and use a controller to make sure you can grab them even while you're not at your keyboard actual god of deception
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 ай бұрын
bros skull can hardly contain that massive brain
@commanderdemonno9819
@commanderdemonno9819 2 ай бұрын
@@rndThursday the webcam had a filter on he'd look like megamind if there wasn't a filter
@justsomelurkerrr
@justsomelurkerrr 2 ай бұрын
he actually didn't get up at all, he levitated away from the desk
@goitwe8564
@goitwe8564 2 ай бұрын
He used his massive IQ to edit his stream in real-time and make it look like he left
@bakonax7080
@bakonax7080 2 ай бұрын
That shit cracked me up, what an intellectual chad
@saito1001
@saito1001 Ай бұрын
Man, the dev must have hate the killers so much
@EthanPineapple
@EthanPineapple Ай бұрын
There is much more money to be made from survivors
@voyu1337
@voyu1337 2 ай бұрын
video essay andy
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 ай бұрын
the only essays i can make (im illiterate)
@manboy4720
@manboy4720 2 ай бұрын
CRAZY PSYCHO FORCES innocent (and very handsome) audience into watching his INSANE RAMBLINGS (true story) (very scary)
@Greenleaf_
@Greenleaf_ 2 ай бұрын
forsenLevel yourself
@leonenjoyer
@leonenjoyer 2 ай бұрын
I am max leveling
@jacestar3007
@jacestar3007 2 ай бұрын
@@rndThursday The pyro pipeline
@conan3081
@conan3081 2 ай бұрын
The one thing that keeps getting repeated is "and there's nothing you can do." Legion's old stabbing mechanics, old Ruin, insta-blind flashlights, infinite loops, insta-heals, etc. They keep adding things that have no counter play that just give players game breaking "I win" buttons. The only difference is that when killers get them they get nerfed/reworked immediately, but survivors get to keep there's for up to years at a time...
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 ай бұрын
funny u say that cuz thats what they almost did with the twins rework lol (they decided to cancel it after the community response)
@alexanderhoclippiunus7644
@alexanderhoclippiunus7644 2 ай бұрын
To be fair, there are a few killer things that stayed in the game long past their welcome. Blight and Nurse were absolutely cracked for far too long to be healthy, Spirit's original design was horrifically uninteractive, old Undying, Shape's tombstone+piece (while that could be argued as a license decision, they _buffed_ tombstone, and tombstone piece still exists along side it for no real reason). That's not to say that there wasn't problems with survivor mechanics, too. Both had-and in some cases _have_ , mechanics that aren't designed well. This isn't even a "one side is favored more" thing, this is a "there is a non-zero chance that the current devs can't understand the code of the game enough to make meaningful changes" problem. And that's concerning for the overall health of both the game and the company. Rant over, thanks for reading; if we met I'd offer you a firm handshake-no hard feelings, your opinion is valid.
@FreeArtFreestheWorld
@FreeArtFreestheWorld 2 ай бұрын
The things to keep in mind is that the "I Win Button" largely comes in the form of perks, and how you get perks? You buy characters and grind to unlock perks. The game is technically p2W BUT you still have to grind like it's a mobile game. DbD is a unique abomination in gaming.
@Clown_the_Clown
@Clown_the_Clown 2 ай бұрын
​@@FreeArtFreestheWorldNot to mention DbD has the monetization of a F2P game despite being pay to play
@twinzzlers
@twinzzlers 2 ай бұрын
​@Clown_the_Clown Don't mean to be that guy but it's despite
@lord_toaster
@lord_toaster 2 ай бұрын
While a good chunk of these old issues are definently not untold, it's hilarious to hear it over and over again from a multitude of creators.
@grimreaper8575
@grimreaper8575 Ай бұрын
I had no idea those survivors were random people. Theyve got a legendary story from now on. "Hey remember that time we shit on a dev and got an entire mechanic removed?"
@ArgieBee1124
@ArgieBee1124 2 ай бұрын
Dead by Daylight is one of those games for me, where I've never played a solitary minute of it but I'm absolutely fascinated by everything surrounding it. It's the most unapologetic salt producing entity I've ever learned of in my life and I hope it goes on for a hundred years making people cry and scream.
@cattysplat
@cattysplat 2 ай бұрын
Yep I love to watch streams but the gameplay is just simply not fun. You either stomp or get stomped.
@aidynh5995
@aidynh5995 2 ай бұрын
don't play it
@JohnDoeWasntTaken
@JohnDoeWasntTaken 2 ай бұрын
I've heard people speak ill of it a few times over the years but holy crap I didn't know it was THIS bad. I actually thought it might have been a decent game that just had salty players, after watching this video I realize how wrong I was. And how fortunate I am that I never decided to try the game. You're right in that it's fascinating how much salt the game produces yet people still play it anyway.
@DJ-fb9cf
@DJ-fb9cf 2 ай бұрын
@@JohnDoeWasntTaken You should look up its tournament history lmao
@panthekirb7561
@panthekirb7561 2 ай бұрын
Basically Tf2, OW, Paladins
@sickeny
@sickeny 2 ай бұрын
As someone who used to play this game all the time, wayyyy back when, I feel like a big problem with it was how the gameplay for the survivors became more action-orientated rather than sneaky. When a chase occurs, from a survivors perspective, it should be the most terrifying and hard part, with careful use of windows and the pallets to give you enough time to escape. The majority of the game should be spent working on gens and trying to *hide* from the killer, I mean, look at all the walls perfectly sized to crouch behind and closets to hide in. Instead, through perks and flashlights, looping around pallets, it became better, if not *easier* to lead the killer on wild goose chases. Spending many minutes at a time wasting the killers time knowing there's not a lot they can do as long as there is a pallet nearby or if you have the right perks. One of the biggest reasons I stopped playing this game (aside from microtransaction hell) was the response so many people gave to killers struggling with chases. If you found yourself unable to catch a survivor, constantly chasing but never able to hit them, ask a member of the community what to do, and most of the time the response would be "Just give up on the chase." This baffled me, because then what? Find someone else who leads you on a chase too and just, never catch them? I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to have a good chase, but the idea that you could be the killer running after a victim, and the victim is the one in control the *entire* time completely beats the point, and theme, of being a killer in the game. Sorry for the long post, But I truly believe if they had just focused more on a stealth focus for the survivors rather than action, it would be a lot more balanced and fitting.
@cattysplat
@cattysplat 2 ай бұрын
It's why the game basically devolved into smurfing to pubstomp newbies who then quit the game. Ultimately destroying the long term playerbase.
@pseudolukian2172
@pseudolukian2172 2 ай бұрын
The problem is that a stealth focus gameplay would still be tedious than what we currently have, just in a different way You get survivors who can get hooked a total of 3 times before they die, on huge maps - you'd still likely lose as a killer, but with zero player interactivity in that regard. I think other asym games tried to remedy this, like Texas Chainsaw Massacre, but then those games also suffered from the playerbase complaining about players being too stealthy which led to them speeding the game up a little.
@KingoCrims0n
@KingoCrims0n 2 ай бұрын
@@cattysplatthe game has a consistent player base, it’s not dying or dead, and I haven’t seen a game where there are as much players with thousands of hours.
@KingoCrims0n
@KingoCrims0n 2 ай бұрын
Look man I’m sorry but this sounds like a massive skill issue, if someone is really lopping your ass to the point where it is no longer beneficial to down them, then finding some else is a better idea because you might find them on a part of the map with easier loops and pallets or even complete dead zones. If you still cannot down them then play a different killer, there are more than 30 each with unique abilities that excel at different tactics. Want an early hit mixed with hit and run stealth? play Wraith. you want fast paced high adrenaline gameplay with great movement? Pick up Blight. you want strong anti loop with zoning ? Then pick up the pyramid head. Also on the matter of stealth, it become increasingly boring the more stealthy the player base gets, we can see that now with the perk “diversion” where it basically negates all aura reading perks and suppresses your scratch marks afterwards. There are several stealth perks that can work well but is that really what you want? To never interact with the killer and have them looking around for you until they spot you in a corner halfway through the game? With so many killers and so many abilities you would choose to just do gens and not interact with the most fun part of the game.
@leesasuki
@leesasuki 2 ай бұрын
The problem here isn't stealth (as others already mentioned), but the MMR system being so broken Killer, especially newbies vs newbies, should easily get 2~4 kills (as in 6~12 hook stage) as this game is and should pro killers. Survivor should be terrified of the killers and do nothing their whole game until they finally learn something. But since MMR and balance issue, there is always some good survivors/killers in the match ready to destroy the opposite team, or killer just bring NOED and raise their MMR incorrectly. I still play this game as there is no game feels like it, but I seriously have no hope in their balancing
@itmebruh9149
@itmebruh9149 Ай бұрын
The fact that there's no mention of the skull merchant and the playstyle she created, temporarily turning the game into an experience so toxic people would DC the moment they heard the terror radius, is hilarious to me. No one wants to remember that absolute shitshow
@pleaserespond3984
@pleaserespond3984 Ай бұрын
It is of course a complicated problem - to make an asymmetrical multiplayer game that can be enjoyed by casual players just dropping in as well as by experienced players running meta builds and communicating. But there *is* a quick and easy solution - simply nerf Pig.
@LeafseasonMagbag
@LeafseasonMagbag 2 ай бұрын
I really appreciate how accessible this video is to someone only passingly familiar with Dead By Daylight. You could have told this exact same story with the exact same information but made it impenetrable. Great job.
@TheMistermastermario
@TheMistermastermario 2 ай бұрын
i've literally only heard of the game's title before (never saw any gameplay) and yet it was explained so nicely so that I knew what was going on.
@sunshowers3838
@sunshowers3838 5 күн бұрын
Same here. Never seen footage before now, but am now morbidly fascinated by this game.
@wickermind6668
@wickermind6668 2 ай бұрын
There's nothing more satisfying than seeing an ignorant and cocky developer believing their game perfect, and then playing their own game, live, in front of a massive crowd and witnessing for the first time just how badly it was balanced in the form of them getting mercilessly bullied in a public lobby. This is why you don't balance exclusively around data, because mechanics might seem fine in the controlled testing environment where they use skills as they "intended", but out in actual games the devs are just completely unaware of the disgustingly powerful true potential these things can have in a tryhard's toolkit.
@thatonebraziliancity822
@thatonebraziliancity822 2 ай бұрын
You'd think games are made to have fun while playing them....... but I have a hard time finding games that actually get me to have fun instead of being frustrated at the failure of their mechanics
@vincentcircharo8259
@vincentcircharo8259 Ай бұрын
you certainly sound like someone who's never played paper mario and the thousand year door
@mariobosnjak99
@mariobosnjak99 2 ай бұрын
I never got interested in playing this game, even a little bit but the fact the main dev said "If you dont like it, just dont play the game" tells me everything i need to know. I dont think il ever even try the game even if i do get interested
@LegionTree
@LegionTree 2 ай бұрын
the biggest problem with BHVR's approach to balance is that they remain vague about whether or not certain strategies are acceptable. They're just like "camping 🤷‍♂" "tunneling 🤷‍♂" hiding 🤷‍♂"
@bigguy4943
@bigguy4943 2 ай бұрын
I love that the only killer you don't own is skull merchant
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 ай бұрын
lmaooo. somebody noticed. f that killer
@megaagentj2248
@megaagentj2248 2 ай бұрын
@@rndThursday based and tinfoil-mask-pilled
@lborlet5204
@lborlet5204 2 ай бұрын
@@rndThursdayI’m absolutely convinced that skull merchant was at one point a predator collaboration even that fell through during development
@cevatkokbudak6414
@cevatkokbudak6414 2 ай бұрын
Mf sounds like she is from Dead -V- Cells
@ryba_byba
@ryba_byba 2 ай бұрын
​@@rndThursdayi actually did the same thing, purposely ignoring her and getting her perks as teachables from the shrine of secrets. i'm currently on my all achievement grind and want the two achievements related to her to be the only ones i'll never get
@SuperTankdempsey
@SuperTankdempsey 2 ай бұрын
2022 me is going kinda crazy that you uploaded a video about dead by daylight! Great watch and really easy to understand! Also lol I forget how funny Mathieu Cole can be
@MizuhanaVT
@MizuhanaVT Ай бұрын
Dead By Daylights greatest weakness is that trying to win the game makes the game less fun for everyone inherently. Any strategy you use to win is seen as a negative to the point basic strategies are seen as being a morally bad person. Balance in PVP games is so exceedingly important cause without it, no one is actually having any fun.
@darkestccino5405
@darkestccino5405 2 ай бұрын
19:25 Small thing, but this historical joke actually would've made more sense with Harry Truman instead of Oppenheimer. Since Oppenheimer deeply regretted making the nuclear bomb while the president had no regrets over dropping the bomb whatsoever, even calling Oppenheimer a "cry baby".
@DamianSzajnowski
@DamianSzajnowski 2 ай бұрын
He must have been very alpha smegma kekpilled individual not to womp womp
@ginsoxx92
@ginsoxx92 2 ай бұрын
​​@@buggothTruman was in fact, pretty based
@LordValdomerol
@LordValdomerol 2 ай бұрын
More like TrueMan
@egoalter1276
@egoalter1276 2 ай бұрын
This is factually incorrect.
@estanislaomandrilli7432
@estanislaomandrilli7432 2 ай бұрын
Source: I saw it in a movie
@yoji-_
@yoji-_ 2 ай бұрын
You missed the most broken part of Legion: being able to make it literally impossible to mend in time before the bleed downed you. You didn't have to chase them or keep hitting them, you could hit them twice with frenzy and just leave. With the right combination of add-ons and perks at the time, you could extend the amount of time it took to mend to be more than the max deep wounds timer so every two hits was a guaranteed down. It's one of the only times there's been a legitimately massive exploit.
@carthing4325
@carthing4325 2 ай бұрын
Nah getting called a noob on the game you created is crazy!! 😂
@makuIa
@makuIa 2 ай бұрын
what dbd fails to realise is with several way too strong perks on each side. this forces them to make items, add ons & more perks to counter the strong perks & thus makes running anything that isn’t meta feel obsolete. they need to implement a point system. the stronger perks have more points which fills more slots than lesser strong perks so for example. pop should require 2 points as well as scourge so running them together should take up 4 points or slots so you can’t run anymore perks. however, 4 much easier & less meta perks can be equipped because they require just 1 point ea & thus creating more detailed builds if people want more depth rather then go for the typical all slowdown perk builds
@LeoPlaysYT
@LeoPlaysYT 2 ай бұрын
When the CEO is not smart enough to realize that directing people to playing another game is bad for his own business..... 41:28
@hailthequeenFM
@hailthequeenFM 2 ай бұрын
he thought he cooked
@theaveragepro1749
@theaveragepro1749 2 ай бұрын
hes not the CEO his last name is CETO
@Starpotion
@Starpotion 2 ай бұрын
Sweaty players really should do this tho
@ShockInazuma
@ShockInazuma 2 ай бұрын
@@Starpotion Whether or not that's the case you, as a dev or any other salesman, should not be directing your audience to a rival or different product. It's bad for business and can even lead to bankruptcy because no one will be interested in your product, causing sales to plummet and leaving your company in financial stress.
@SapphicAshley
@SapphicAshley 2 ай бұрын
I want to believe that the day before he bought a bunch of stocks in Sid Meier
@ninjafrog6966
@ninjafrog6966 2 ай бұрын
watching the developer get bullied by flashlight spam was the most hilarious thing i’ve ever seen
@aydrianm
@aydrianm 2 ай бұрын
so cool that you’re branching out to make other types of content, i love it
@nickgrover9071
@nickgrover9071 19 күн бұрын
what’s the song at 25:13
@DoomSlingerGAME
@DoomSlingerGAME 2 ай бұрын
This dev team is the reason I stopped playing. They have made, by far, the most ridiculous and most unintelligent balancing decisions I have ever seen a dev team make. They literally cannot achieve a W. And the number of times I've seen them make the exact same mistake, over and over again, is so mind blowing that I just gave up on them. If chat gpt had been around when this game came out, I would've thought that that is where they get all their code and come up with all their ideas.
@basillah7650
@basillah7650 2 ай бұрын
they wanted fun by making spending money never was about balance
@ZombieKitty321
@ZombieKitty321 Ай бұрын
Its because of the spreadsheet deving they do, they legit just made a whole revamp to twins, only too have the revert the whole things within hours because it was so bad. They are no redoing the whole thing and the community's response was "Hey how about asking us next time instead of wasting all this time and money on this?
@i8dacookies890
@i8dacookies890 2 ай бұрын
A lot of these problems seem tied to the nature of horror itself. You aren't supposed to know things as a survivor. If a horror movie had people with too much experience or in constant communication, it wouldn't be a good horror movie.
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 ай бұрын
thats definitely a big part of it
@Clown_the_Clown
@Clown_the_Clown 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately DbD reverses this. Survivors get a ton of information, and Killers really don't.
@Mexch-ob7df
@Mexch-ob7df 2 ай бұрын
@@Clown_the_Clownyea that’s what they just said
@aWigglys
@aWigglys 2 ай бұрын
@@Clown_the_Clown killers CAN get a lot of Information with perks and If they pay attention to their surroundings
@coolsceegaming6178
@coolsceegaming6178 2 ай бұрын
@@aWigglyssame time though, SWF isn’t a perk and breaks the game
@Toolgirl64209
@Toolgirl64209 2 ай бұрын
Why not add a “tripping” mechanic, based on the slasher trope of a survivor tripping over something while being pursued? Whenever the killer gets close enough, the survivor has an increasing chance of falling over, giving the killer a chance to catch their prey? And there’s always going to be griefers in any multiplayer game, no matter what.
@mauricioc.7746
@mauricioc.7746 Ай бұрын
I played this game years ago and I got to say, this is not a good suggestion because DBD is not played as a party game. In party games it is fun to have a RNG factor that can shift things around, but DBD is played with a really serious and competitive mind set, both sides hate vehemently when things go wrong to them. Some things as simple as a bad totem spawn already make killers go mad during a match. Survivors moan when a windows doesn't spawn where they want, even. In the case of the tripping, one of survivors greatest prides and achievments is being able to loop the killer for a long, long time. If you take this from them they might actually start DDOSING the devs, if not worse.
@cragraven
@cragraven 2 ай бұрын
watched this video daily since release. you have a great voice for listening to in the background while i slowly absorb and reabsorb the information like a parasite
@AimlessSavant
@AimlessSavant 2 ай бұрын
holy shit why did that game director allow that to happen. It makes him look extremely incompetent. Any other studio would shoot down the request IMMEDIATELY because of the publicity. Frankly, It is a case of being so far removed from normal gamers that these project leads/studio managers don't even know just how broken their product is.
@cattysplat
@cattysplat 2 ай бұрын
Ego.
@Em0srawk
@Em0srawk 2 ай бұрын
My initial reaction was "wait, I don't remember DbD being *that* bad", but then I remembered that my experience was with more modern versions (what the hell was some of those old design decisions?) and with a "no perks, no items" policy, because they really made the game unfun. It definitely feels like that was what the game was intentionally designed for, at least to me.
@meganerd31
@meganerd31 2 ай бұрын
One thing you forgot to mention with Legion was that his old version didn't need his power fully charged to use it, so you could abuse the Frank's Mixed Tape without even needing to wait the usual 10 seconds or it took to charge, making that strategy even more infuriatingly strong. It also made it impossible to body block against him, because he could just pop his power, instantly hit the blocker, and now he has his full power bar to just chase down his original target. The other issue with him was that making him miss an attack didn't make him drop his power as it does now. He had no cooldown on missed attacks in his power, and it didn't drain his power to swing/miss.
@r34telletubies29
@r34telletubies29 2 ай бұрын
the fact that almo went "OOO is weak because it has a high death rate" because you either tunnel or lose the video game, is alone enough to tell you how mentally handicapped the balance team is
@fuzzwobble
@fuzzwobble 2 ай бұрын
"Your game's changes have drained all the fun out of it. What can be done to fix it?" "Play a different game lol"
@IhateAlot718
@IhateAlot718 2 ай бұрын
thats what happens when the fanbase just complain
@totallyrealcia
@totallyrealcia 2 ай бұрын
The funniest part? He was absolutely right
@famulanrevengeance3044
@famulanrevengeance3044 Ай бұрын
What do you expect him to say? If you don't enjoy DBD, then leave. If you used to have fun and now don't, you're probably burned out. Once frustrations overtake fun, quit. The devs are doing their best to mitigate frustration and make it more fun but not everyone is gonna like it.
@DOGEELLL
@DOGEELLL 16 күн бұрын
​@@famulanrevengeance3044that just prove the game is complete garbage lol who in their right mind would play a game which even the own dev tell you to play something else
@famulanrevengeance3044
@famulanrevengeance3044 14 күн бұрын
@@DOGEELLL The developer tells you to play something else if you're getting burned out and frustrated. He is not responsible for your emotions. It's a difficult, competitive game with many factors outside of your control. Deal with it, or leave.
@Local_pixel_artist
@Local_pixel_artist Ай бұрын
Idk I think the real imbalance is they haven’t nerfed pig enough
@VoermanIdiot
@VoermanIdiot 2 ай бұрын
I remember back in 2018, I used to make a collage at the start of a rank reset (13th of each month) lasting for that entire month that was screenshots of how many people I came across that ran Dead Hard, Undying, Decisive and Borrowed Time and in one month in particular when I had a little more time to play, I played a total of 388 matches as Killer, which is on the lower end for some people, I know, but it's the most information I gathered during that experience. I only faced the same player(s) about 4 times. So in 388 matches, from a total of 1548 different players (subtracting the same players I faced, yes, I kept track.) 1272 players ran the exact same perks. If my math isn't wrong, that's 82.17% of players I ran into that were all running the exact same set. For good reason, it was by far one of the most annoying sets to run against. I'm glad I stopped playing for a good while just as Boon: Circle of Healing was about to drop, I don't think I could've handled that.
@TheRadicalOneNG
@TheRadicalOneNG 2 ай бұрын
5:47 greatest play I've ever seen in a game thank you for putting that clip in your video essay.
@yuri_8368
@yuri_8368 2 ай бұрын
If the devs played the game and not "balance" everything by stats the game would be more fun. A klt of perks are useless, a lot of addons for killers (the majority) are useless, maps are too big, and skill based matchmaking in a no competitive game
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 ай бұрын
spitting fax yuri. annoying that some killers have god tier addons that make them overpowered, but then you got trapper addons that make traps not hurt you
@jonaza2105
@jonaza2105 2 ай бұрын
The problem there is that you get communities like League of Legends' where players insult devs for nerfing things they hate as abuse of power. E.g. the ping incident where a dev was accused of removing pings because he got spam pinged in a game, or when Pyke got nerfed a month after a dev got absolutely owned by a Pyke player. They were unrelated, but players are gonna make shit up to cope anyway.
@cattysplat
@cattysplat 2 ай бұрын
@@jonaza2105 You are delusional if you think developers don't have favourites based on what they play.
@jonaza2105
@jonaza2105 2 ай бұрын
@@cattysplat you are delusional if you think that a) single devs have enough power to push biased balance changes by themselves and that b) these balance changes aren't made by entire balance teams based on multivariate analyses (eg winrate, player satisfaction, rank distribution, etc). Either way, you didn't disprove my point which was exactly that because Devs can be personally biased, that's why they tend to balance with math rather than just throwing out opinions. + Even in a perfect world where devs arent biased, players will still accuse them of being biased.
@Bruh-tw8uh
@Bruh-tw8uh 2 ай бұрын
@yuri_8368 hey where did you get your profile pic from
@athenawheatley1032
@athenawheatley1032 2 ай бұрын
About the Legion section---it's not that Legion was powerful. In fact, they were very bad. It's that there was no nuance to Legion's gameplay. The skill ceiling was as high as the floor, and no matter what you as a survivor did in chase, the legion always downed you in a little over one minute. This meant that every chase was slow, but inevitably you'd still die,
@wickermind6668
@wickermind6668 2 ай бұрын
So "Legion is not powerful and is bad" but at the same time "You will still die regardless what you try to do"
@commiekin
@commiekin 2 ай бұрын
@@wickermind6668 Legion could only guarantee one kill, maybe two max, per match because the process took so long. Meanwhile these were the days of hillbilly instasaw where you were dead within a second of him catching up to you It was horribly slow murderer with a spoon shit. You would die eventually but your team would be fine if they weren't brain dead.
@genoob5843
@genoob5843 2 ай бұрын
@@commiekin - Uses a lil shaft - Built like a twink - Still manages to be able to down half the survivors team before the match ends Legion the Gigachad
@CorelUser
@CorelUser 2 ай бұрын
This is a really good video. I love really good videos. I subbed.
@destroyerinazuma96
@destroyerinazuma96 2 ай бұрын
I have a question. I recall a coop zombie shooter game (a tad like Left4Dead but different style). Have I understood correctly thar those are kinda assymetric too?
@heavensgate2245
@heavensgate2245 Ай бұрын
yes, and just like DbD, the survivors are at an advantage granted the L4D2 survivors CAN defend themselves properly unlike the DbD ones, but still, military sniper op lol
@MaryGershwin
@MaryGershwin 2 ай бұрын
As a casual gamer and an absolute noob I loved the first few weeks of the game where no one had any strategy and it was just a fun, scary game with friends. I stopped playing as soon as a friend of mine started to explain "camping" and different strategies and ranking to me. I am the exact opposite to a competetive player.
@famulanrevengeance3044
@famulanrevengeance3044 Ай бұрын
You can succeed without being an asshole in DBD if you just put in a little effort and realize that you're not always going to win the match. Yet, good performance will lead you to ranking up regardless. But people don't want to do that. Face camping used to be a guarantee of a kill. I guess some killers were so childish they couldn't handle the survivors having even the smallest victory and putting in effort to hook someone else was too much. And yet it made the game boring as fuck as EVERYONE now sits afk- The killer, the hooked person, the people doing gens and the person trying to rescue the hooked person, literally of them are afk because of this. It's insane how anyone accepted this, including the devs, should've been punished with suspensions. If a soccer team scores a point and then refuses to play, they don't automatically win, they get suspended and lose.
@yep404
@yep404 24 күн бұрын
My exact thoughts. Only other time I've played this game aside from when it first launched was when pyramid head got added. I then uninstalled the game after realizing what a sweat fest the game had evolved into😂
@Fragatron
@Fragatron 2 ай бұрын
"the only real victory is making sure that the other side isn't having any fun." 😂😂😂
@Spaceman_u
@Spaceman_u Ай бұрын
I still feel like an idiot on wasting my money on all Killer DLCs and then not play the game a year after 💀
@Chris_M_Romero
@Chris_M_Romero 2 ай бұрын
You're wrong about something you said at the beginning: the most fun part of playing survivor is not to interact with the killer. That goes against the most fundamental part of being a survivor, you know, since the killer can fvcking KILL YOU... The fun part of playing survivor is to survive and see the killer completely broken and dead inside wondering how in the world could they lost having everything in their favor.
@CompletelySheepy
@CompletelySheepy 2 ай бұрын
I find this to be true. The most fun survivors have in this game is fucking around with the killer, which... on its own isn't bad if the community was more friendly, but it's not.
@Whomobile
@Whomobile 2 ай бұрын
There's something interesting about how power players will always find the least fun way to win a game
@johnes4882
@johnes4882 2 ай бұрын
Evolution of the meta is the most fascinating yet horrible thing to witness in multiplayer game development. I've seen your tf2 vids before so I know you have much familiarity with that 😂😂
@Flamecrestification
@Flamecrestification 2 ай бұрын
Dude that fuckin' Helldivers survive-until-extraction song took me by surprise. Well done
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 ай бұрын
democracy never sleeps
@Flamecrestification
@Flamecrestification 2 ай бұрын
@@rndThursday that's one more video for the right side of history.
@blecis74
@blecis74 2 ай бұрын
Liberty has seen this video through
@Ramsey276one
@Ramsey276one 2 ай бұрын
Title??
@fishboyFishyFins
@fishboyFishyFins 2 ай бұрын
36:29 playing Pigstep during the “Oink.” section is brilliant
@markmathis9616
@markmathis9616 2 ай бұрын
Excellent video, however I didn’t see any mention of dead hard? I know u can’t cover everything, but that perk history from broken to useless to broken again and again and again is a pretty interesting topic.
@mortywill3869
@mortywill3869 2 ай бұрын
This game has had so many bullshit metas that I don't think a 5 hour long video would be enough to go through all of them lmao
@someaccount5200
@someaccount5200 2 ай бұрын
literally every meta was bullshit
@numbdigger9552
@numbdigger9552 2 ай бұрын
And that's what makes dbd the best. The meme material is ENDLESS!!!
@FizzieWebb
@FizzieWebb 2 ай бұрын
36:04 - 38:32 The fact that there is a nerf sink character just... takes me back to the time I used to play LoL, and the "X is too powerful? Better nerf Irelia!" Meme.
@megaagentj2248
@megaagentj2248 2 ай бұрын
people quite literally make those exact jokes, "We've noticed nurse has been far too oppressive at the higher levels of the game, so we have decided to nerf the pig"
@Dr.AvenVon
@Dr.AvenVon 2 ай бұрын
as an oldschool LoL player, my first thought was "better nerf twitch" because, my god, at the beginning of LoL, twitch was nerfed again and again and again
@cattysplat
@cattysplat 2 ай бұрын
@@Dr.AvenVon Stealth being nerfed in LoL constantly because kid casual doesn't understand how stealth works or how to counter or play defensive.
@8stormy5
@8stormy5 2 ай бұрын
Better nerf blackbeard
@alex140i3
@alex140i3 2 ай бұрын
better nerf genji
@rodo1252
@rodo1252 18 күн бұрын
The whole thing with the dev saying the game was balanced and then getting destroyed is crazy to me. It just reeks of we never play test our product
@MrRagnarxx
@MrRagnarxx Күн бұрын
I remember when this game first got popular, I specifically remember asking a friend who got me into it - "So the killer can just stand next to me?" "Yeah". Didn't end up playing much of it.
@Undkor
@Undkor 2 ай бұрын
The funniest thing about old Legion is that they sucked so hard that even unrelated killers were dragged down by them. In ye olden days, Nurse’s Calling used to reveal survivor auras whenever they performed any healing action, including the “snap out of it” command when facing Doctors. This made a certain amount of thematic sense: to “snap out” of their insanity, survivors had to stop and take a moment to reorient themselves and return to their senses. It makes sense then that Nurse’s Calling would beckon Doctors toward vulnerable survivors trying to heal their fractured psyches. Consequently, Nurse’s Calling was one of the best arrows in the Doctor’s quiver… Until the Legion was released. Shortly after the community got its hands on the Legion, a discovery was made: the mending action wouldn’t reveal a survivor to Nurse’s Calling! The assumption among the wider player base at the time was that this was a bug or an oversight on BHVR’s part, so the community brought this discrepancy to BHVR’s attention. If stitching together a shattered mind activated Nurse’s Calling, then surely stitching up a physical wound should do the same! BHVR heard these quibbles and leapt into action. The following patch, the Doctor was nerfed and his synergy with Nurse’s Calling went away over night. I’m still fucking mad about it.
@bigenemy000
@bigenemy000 2 ай бұрын
Tbh nurse calling should have never worked with doctor power to begin with lmao. Perks should never affect directly powers or balance becomes problematix
@broextraordinary4063
@broextraordinary4063 2 ай бұрын
making a perk reveal healing on any killer while also revealing one particular action on a certain killer makes no sense at all
@Undkor
@Undkor 2 ай бұрын
@@broextraordinary4063 Agree to disagree. Personally, I think designing perks to meaningfully interact with a killer’s unique design adds flavor, depth, and variety to the game. I’ll concede that this is clearly contrary to the direction BHVR wants to take the game in (as recently evidenced by the nerf to STBFL), but I nonetheless believe that their binary approach to perk design has played a massive role in the game’s stagnant killer meta. Call me a contrarian, but I think it’s a good thing when some killers can make better use of a perk than others.
@bigenemy000
@bigenemy000 2 ай бұрын
@@Undkor it is right that some killers should gain more value from s perk than others. But perks shouldn't affect the power itself or that becomes a mess. Example: Third seal and Ruin are top tier on twins because they almost always use victor and as such these two perk synergies with what the power causes but not with the power itself. OR Wesker gain more value from starstruck, but that's because he has 40 meters terror radius and it doesn't affect directly his power
@thomasdye7503
@thomasdye7503 2 ай бұрын
I think a big problem, at least back then, is that Behavior's design philosophy was to just add DLC to "fix " issues rather than overhaul them.
@onlinealias8956
@onlinealias8956 Ай бұрын
What is the song that is playing during the Pig section at 36:10?? Please im gonna lose my freakin mind
@alicetheaxolotl
@alicetheaxolotl 29 күн бұрын
Pigstep by Lena Raine (From Minecraft)
@onlinealias8956
@onlinealias8956 26 күн бұрын
@@alicetheaxolotl how could i forget about pigstep
@imadethissoicouldcomment2549
@imadethissoicouldcomment2549 12 күн бұрын
Hall of fame top 10 videos on KZfaq. Obviously it’s because of the massive amount of nostalgia you made me feel. I used to main killer as someone with no friends playing DBD and I would lowkey get scared as survivor ( bc DBD did used to be scary) I saw first hand all the bs survivors could do and idk why but I just kept playing! Thank you for this video it honestly is one I am saving forever to always look back on. And I love the funny moments you show the ‘ima leave’ at the standoff to only have a controller is iconic
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 8 күн бұрын
💖
@b130610
@b130610 2 ай бұрын
DbD is one of those games that looked like shit when I first saw it, but I figured it must have some redeeming factors behind its janky animations and shitty graphics since so many people liked it. Then everything I hear about it for the next decade from fans and critics alike is overwhelmingly negative, and it is still one of the ugliest, jankiest games I've ever seen. I'm genuinely convinced this game is only popular because of some sort of mass hysteria lmao.
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 ай бұрын
dbd has a lot going for it that keeps it so popular (almost nothing to do with the game itself) 1. licenses for very popular franchises 2. lots of entertaining content creators 3. (probably most importantly) nearly no competitors in the market. games like VHS or Friday the 13th were promising but shut down it has tried improving the jank and visuals over the years, but at a snails pace tbh
@b130610
@b130610 2 ай бұрын
@@rndThursday I guess that makes sense. I tried getting into it briefly because I liked Otzdarvas DS2 content so much in the past, but I just didn't get it. Good luck kicking the habit, and good job on the video!
@aWigglys
@aWigglys 2 ай бұрын
DBD Is obviously so popular cause It's fun to play for a ton of people, also partly because people can play some cool characters from their favorite franchises.
@youtube-kit9450
@youtube-kit9450 2 ай бұрын
@@rndThursday For the devs and their apparent lack of talent at making a game or even remotely balancing it, it probably was the right decision to just overlay counter upon counter for the previous unbalanced stuff instead of putting in lots of hours into still failing to fix it and instead pour the money into licenses that let them get people to play "as their favourite killer".
@Ahab2710
@Ahab2710 2 ай бұрын
​@@b130610 the Otz Dark Souls to DbD downfall has to be studied
@samtheboyo6930
@samtheboyo6930 2 ай бұрын
Love to see u branching out rnd!
@rndThursday
@rndThursday 2 ай бұрын
im like a tree
@greggorythefox722
@greggorythefox722 2 ай бұрын
I love DBD developer's logic. -Oh yeah, show me what you got there for new skills. Insta kill? -Yeah. -Good shit, can't think about the single thing how this can be unbalanced. Aaaaaaand a map with lots of corners, drops, windows and pallets so killer would run circles the whole match? -Yes. -You're shitting out golden eggs, young man!
@sirdurtle9519
@sirdurtle9519 21 сағат бұрын
As someone who has never played this game before, it looks like a blast if you play exclusively private games with your friends. That would allow for as many house rules as you want to make the game fun. However, it also appears that unlocking these perks and levelling them is tied to game progression, which Im assuming private games wouldnt count towards, so in order to play a complete game with your friends everyone would have needed to spend a significant amount of time playing the actual game, which looks like absolute dogwater to learn as a new player
@PotatoGawd
@PotatoGawd 2 ай бұрын
“this gameplay is PEAK” *running in a circle worse than evolve*
@3LANCER
@3LANCER 2 ай бұрын
Evolve may had terrible monetization but at least you had stuff to do during a match
@aWigglys
@aWigglys 2 ай бұрын
bro's just a bad teammate
@CrocodileWhispers
@CrocodileWhispers 2 ай бұрын
Yea that’s all I can think of when I watch DBD clips… it’s like evolve with pallets
@Starpotion
@Starpotion 2 ай бұрын
Evolve deserved better
@faytleingod1851
@faytleingod1851 2 ай бұрын
I miss evolve it was very fun. There just wasn't a player base. After just a few months it became very one sided either the monster couldn't do squat or the survivors couldn't do squat. I enjoyed the three months I had 🤣
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