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Seeing Thoralf sit so much closer to the camera than Jamin is always pretty funny. I actually had the pleasure of meeting Thoralf Severin a couple weeks ago at YCS Dortmund. One thing that fans of the channel may not realize is that he’s 179 cm (5’ 10”) tall. It’s just that everyone else in the office is quite unreasonably large.

It's honestly insulting that the izzet phoenix deck doesn't have 4 phoenixes in it. Come on WOTC I shouldn't have to buy two precons just to have a playset of the namesake card. Stop acting like your arbitrarily rare cardboard is expensive for you to print.

CardMarket is one of the best channels for competitive mtg content these days. Keep up the good work!

Unsure when this was recorded, but the Gruul Stompy list does have a lot of the core cards that make up the Gruul Vehicles deck that has been putting up decent results since Regional Championship weekend. Skysovereign, Esika's Chariot, Stormseeker, and Akroan War alongside Embercleave and some creature lands like you mentioned are most of what you need to round out the deck.

Please keep up all the pioneer content, deck upgrades, gameplay, and analysis! Loving the content

Love the content and the channel. I am from US. I can say one of the best channels for pioneer as well as other formats. Love the live card play. There aren’t a whole lot of channels out there doing that these days. Keep up the great content guys. 👊

Every day, I learn something new about Questing Beast. Today, apparently, it's legendary 🤣

I would love to see different tiers of upgrades for the decks. Then gameplay with the new upgrades.

Just found your channel recently and have been watching tons of your content Thank you for all of the stuff you put out! I literally bought the Phoenix deck and was very excited to try it and was sad that I had to purchase 2 more phoenixes let alone actually add upgrades

Thanks you guys really help a new player who is really growing to love love love this game

I got lost in Thoralf’s eyes at 0:18

I like control so I’m probably going dimir. 😮

Guys. Love the content for sure. Keep it up. PS : lower the music please it' hard to concentrate on what you are saying.

My thoughts on upgrading the Dimir Control: When I saw the decklist I had a different direction I was thinking of taking the deck. Play off of the Shark Typhoon (and pick up another copy or two) as the possible wincon and toss in cards that can synergize with the graveyard aspect of the deck like Tolarian Terror (which can work well with Typhoon as well). This change may go in a more midrange direction but doesn't clash with the suggestions here. The only question is what to cut.

Thanks for the tips! Definitely been eyeing that phoenix precon!

Oh I think the best way to upgrade gruul is sell all those Questing Beast, chandras, Glorybringers and go with gruul boats. Skysovereigns and chariots are op

Need a couple great henges in gruul stompy if you have the means too

specific feedback...... thoralf has such beautiful eyes 🤩

Thank you for posting entertaining videos! Across all of the sets, which 60 card premade decks are the most effective, for sealed play?

9:31 why the music going absolutely ham?

the person that did the music selection is based

we got shouted out!!

Great Video, helped me so much! Thank you! One Question: How many Hopeful Initiatives, Adeline and Extraction Specialist should i put in the Human Deck? :)

The gruul deck can also easily pivot into Possibility Storm Combo

gruul mid/vehicles is actually a real (tier 2) deck so a playset of skysovereign and chariots could the way to upgrade. also I don't what about you but a full playset of a big delve spell might be too much for a deck that doesn't actively fill the graveyard and especially when memory deluge nets more card while also digging deeper, control doesn't need the fast 2-mana effective draw spell because they have the time to spend like you said so a bigger draw spell that is more mana hungry should be better.

I am choosing to go down the thing in the ice road because honestly, I only have 3 copies of ledger shredder (3 copies from my 2 prerelease events, very lucky) and they are all very happy in 2 commander decks and my cube, and I do not want to spend money on more copies

You guys forgot to set "Lose all your friends" as a condition for control players.

Do you have recommendations of which deck pair would work best as duel decks? (The video from last year went through how well the different precon decks were matched against each other.)

Didn't Toffel mean Disallow as an alternative for a 3 mana counterspell in Dimir control ( he talks about countering a trigger)

8:54 I’m sorry, but wouldn’t this be Disallow, as it stops triggered and activated abilities?

Nice content as always 👌 if you wanna make some popular casual content, how about a few rounds of gartic phone with the whole squad?

17:41 Thoralf?

Neither Thoralf or the editor noticed that scrying with Dissolve will not help with triggers. Maybe Disallow would work better ;)

Wasn't there a deck with goldspan dragon in it too?

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So to sum it up...ask my parents for a card market gift card cuz I'm gonna need some untapped dual lands?

Gruul stompy can’t be a tier 1 deck? Has no one heard of Gruul vehicles doing great lately?

Frage an die Deutschen, wenn man bei Arena Open Geld macht fällt da 30% quellensteuer an . Gibt es eine Möglichkeit einen Teil wieder zurück zu bekommen ?

Maybe turn the music down next time. It was pretty distracting😅

Why not update Gruul Stompy to Gruul Vehicles?

Pionner

I don't want to like since it is 666 right now but thanks for the video.

giveaway please hehe

I think this video is too generic. Not useful for someone who bought a precon