P&ID Basics: Avoid Common Mistakes in Reading a Piping & Instrumentation Diagram (Part 2)

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This series of videos will help you significantly in getting better at reading as well as DESIGNING P&IDs.
In the previous episode (Part 1), we discussed the P&ID symbols present in ISA5.1 and commenced a practical example of a Piping and Instrumentation Diagram.
I showed you how to demonstrate the electric motor winding temperature sensors and their transducers in the P&ID. We’re not done with this example, yet!
Watch or Read Part 1 over at ▶ upmation.com/piping-and-instr...
In this video, we will continue and complete the example we have started in Part 1.
As the Ball Mill electric motor is controlled by a Variable Speed Drive or VSD, I decided to connect its temperature transducers directly to the VSD. Therefore, I will do so in the P&ID and first consider the VSD and then connect the transducers to that.
But I also want to send the signals from the motor's transducers to a PLC card to show the real-time temperature of the motor to the operators in a monitoring system or let’s say Human-Machine Interface. I will send them via the network between the VSD and PLC.
In this way, through the Human Machine Interface or HMI, if the operator opens the related pages for the Ball Mill motor, he/she should observe the motor winding temperature indicators.
Inside the P&ID, I use a “circle-in-square” symbol to indicate that the operator will see those temperatures on his/her computer in real-time. In other words, each of these symbols in our P&ID equals one of these temperatures in the HMI.
You should already know that the dashed lines are used for electric signals or electrical connections. But to show the communication links or a network bus between the devices and HMI objects, we should use a dashed and dotted line type.
The VFD sends us some other pieces of data such as:
- Is it turned on or off?
- Is there a fault with the VSD?
- Is it running the motor at the moment?
- What is the motor’s real-time speed?
But the VSD also ‘receives’ some signals and data from the control system. Like the Start and Stop commands. Although the VSDs are provided with physical Start and Stop Pushbuttons, we might want to command the motor to start or stop remotely via the HMI as well.
Shared Display means that we have shared some data with the operator in the HMI, and Shared Control means we have shared some controls there in the HMI.
There is a very important point here:
Some instructors might tell you that if your automation system is based on Decentralized Control System or DCS you should use the “circle-in-square” symbol for a Shared Control or Shared Display object or both of them.
And if your control system is PLC based, then you have to use a “diamond-in-square” symbol. Even though this idea was true for older versions of P&IDs that were designed according to previous versions of the ISA document, it is not correct anymore.
As stated on pages 10 and 11 of the ISA documents this definition is no longer accurate. The following is exactly copied from the ANSI/ISA-5.1-2009:
The commonly assumed meanings of ‘circle-in-square’ as a distributed control system (DCS) functions and of ‘diamond-in-square’ as programmable logic controller (PLC) function are no longer accurate because they no longer reflect the currently acceptable meanings.
DCSs and PLCs can both perform continuous and binary control functions. The same functions are performed by personal computers (PC) and by fieldbus and device-bus devices.
Both ‘circle-in-square’ and ‘diamond-in-square’ symbols are classified as ‘shared display, shared control.’
‘Circle-in-square’ will depict either:
(a) primary control system choice or
(b) a basic process control system (BPCS).
‘Diamond-in-square’ will depict either:
(a) an alternate control system choice or
(b) a safety instrumented system (SIS).
Users who continue to use the symbols as in the past should change to the revised meanings as soon as possible.
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@anplechen
@anplechen 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for your gorgeous work! It's really a great gift for us, especially designers. Although I like it, but from my point of view, this new style of P&ID drawings too informative in terms of excessive information. But it's only my opinion.
@Upmation
@Upmation 11 ай бұрын
We're happy to be of assistance! You bring up a valid point. The amount of information included in a P&ID can vary based on the industry, the designer, and their goals. However, in this case, our focus was on highlighting the connections and relationships between elements in an #automation system, as well as discussing specific points within the #PnID.
@s001b
@s001b 2 ай бұрын
Please never stop uploading You are helping me alot
@sanourian
@sanourian Жыл бұрын
I really like the creative content and unique style of your videos. Keep the good work up. Thanks for sharing.
@Upmation
@Upmation Жыл бұрын
Awesome! It's great to hear that and you're very welcome!
@CharlesMgbeadichie
@CharlesMgbeadichie 14 күн бұрын
I really learnt a lot from ur video. Pls ,I will like to watch more or previous video on lessons on P & I D. Thank you.
@angus7898
@angus7898 4 ай бұрын
looking forward to part 3, thank you sir
@markoradosavljevic7517
@markoradosavljevic7517 2 ай бұрын
Beautiful!
@kerayz4596
@kerayz4596 Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for such a clear explanation
@MutahirRasool
@MutahirRasool 27 күн бұрын
Wonderful!
@user-qc7ho6sx7v
@user-qc7ho6sx7v 11 ай бұрын
Great work 👏
@luissalinasreto7924
@luissalinasreto7924 7 ай бұрын
Thank you, excellent.
@vatsalthaker2122
@vatsalthaker2122 8 ай бұрын
❤❤ very eager to see your plc course
@afrancisco3814
@afrancisco3814 9 ай бұрын
fantastic presentation, create more please. suggestion for hydraulic and or pneumatic or electrical and engines and motors too. You have poked the bear with your success.
@Upmation
@Upmation 9 ай бұрын
Hey! Thank you for your compliments and suggestions! Will definitely go ahead and share them with the team.
@abhidattwade6614
@abhidattwade6614 6 ай бұрын
Very good explanation
@marthinusmeyer1062
@marthinusmeyer1062 Жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation, keep up the good work
@Upmation
@Upmation Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@aarondcmedia9585
@aarondcmedia9585 11 ай бұрын
Welcome back!
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@alijariani3283
@alijariani3283 Жыл бұрын
Very good
@Upmation
@Upmation Жыл бұрын
Hey, Ali! Thank you! Let us know if you have any suggestions or questions.
@Chy_Tea
@Chy_Tea 11 ай бұрын
waiting for upcoming videos.
@whoahna8438
@whoahna8438 10 ай бұрын
I like your videos
@Upmation
@Upmation 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! Happy to hear that!
@dalvarita6181
@dalvarita6181 8 ай бұрын
The best explanation ever! Congratulations. I have one question that for me is Very difficult. It is about the diamond. I really do not understand when I should use them. Could you help me on this?
@Upmation
@Upmation 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! Diamond is mostly used for Interlocks.
@gamerrzhub
@gamerrzhub 11 ай бұрын
Excellent job, helping designers , but too much delay for next videos, please make it fast.
@Upmation
@Upmation 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! We appreciate your feedback! We're thrilled that you found the video helpful and we're committed to creating more content like this in the future. Stay tuned!
@tadiwesyimer5811
@tadiwesyimer5811 Жыл бұрын
sir part 1 ?
@Upmation
@Upmation Жыл бұрын
Hey! There is a link to Part 1 in the description. Although, I put the link here as well ▶ upmation.com/piping-and-instrumentation-diagram/
@vipinthampy4669
@vipinthampy4669 Жыл бұрын
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@valentijnfiggins1561 Жыл бұрын
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