The "BetterHelp" YouTube Virus is BACK

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Upper Echelon

Upper Echelon

Күн бұрын

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"BetterHelp" (once a prominent KZfaq sponsor...) is making a comeback on the platform after 6 years, with a massive advertising push in the wake of newly forgotten scandals, and breaches of trust.
While some viewers may not remember the details about this company... that doesn't change their track record, and it certainly does not mean that their business ethics have improved. Today I wanted to re-evaluate this company since it will be appearing on a lot peoples feeds with increasing frequency over the coming months.
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@UpperEchelon
@UpperEchelon Ай бұрын
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@nonsensicalrants1703
@nonsensicalrants1703 Ай бұрын
You should check out HisTherapist An actual therapist who is "red pill" or "manosphere" focused. Seeing him sponsoring someone like you would be awesome.
@SpeddyTruck
@SpeddyTruck Ай бұрын
Actual better help
@THE-X-Force
@THE-X-Force Ай бұрын
What happened to "CareDash" users who were seeking care other than therapy? Where they also redirected somewhere?
@OWNERAdminUser
@OWNERAdminUser Ай бұрын
TAKE YOUR PRIVACY BACK! sounds like DDGo...
@Marinealver
@Marinealver Ай бұрын
Wow, when Jezebel has the Moral High Ground over a company you know you are dealing with THE WORST!
@PapaC92
@PapaC92 Ай бұрын
My mom is part of a company for therapists that are suing them because they literally used my mom’s counselor profile without her consent. They are a scam
@YeahYeahBeebisI
@YeahYeahBeebisI Ай бұрын
Was this on CareDash or the BetterHelp site? Best luck on that lawsuit
@MiraBoo
@MiraBoo Ай бұрын
I wish more videos and articles would report on this. It’s so highly concerning!
@CalsGirl97
@CalsGirl97 Ай бұрын
I hope they sue Better Help into bankruptcy, they screwed me at a very vulnerable position in my life as a teenager
@daydreamdirty
@daydreamdirty Ай бұрын
Wow that’s shitty
@Iquey
@Iquey Ай бұрын
WOW .. fraud, much!?
@-EchoesIntoEternity-
@-EchoesIntoEternity- Ай бұрын
i'll take a Raid shadow legends sponsor ad over a Betterhelp ad
@ilovewaffles321
@ilovewaffles321 Ай бұрын
Raycon too.
@djbobby224
@djbobby224 Ай бұрын
Raid and Raycon are actually pretty good
@nox5555
@nox5555 Ай бұрын
the game isnt that bad. sure its pay to win, but you can have fun with it for free. Its not the worst game of its kind.
@plsdontbanmeagainyoulibtards
@plsdontbanmeagainyoulibtards Ай бұрын
id take a crypto gambling ad over better help. at least you have a chance to win back the money you lose lol
@nox5555
@nox5555 Ай бұрын
@@djbobby224 No! raycons are horrible and way to expensive. just get JBLs. They are cheap and very good. the next steps in quality is like 500€ and its just not worth it for outside.
@amicaaranearum
@amicaaranearum Ай бұрын
People taking paid sponsorships should not be allowed to falsely imply that they used a service they didn’t use.
@Alfred-Neuman
@Alfred-Neuman Ай бұрын
How are you going to prove a KZfaqr never used a service, especially if it's supposed to stay private like with BetterHelp? Even if investigators had magic powers, it would be so easy for these sponsored KZfaqrs to "use" these services for like 10 minutes just to be able to say they used that service... As long as the general population will stay dumb and uneducated these companies will continue to make billions.
@duffinthemuffin5792
@duffinthemuffin5792 Ай бұрын
every mf saying they personally played raid shadow legends and love it
@jordanmason7127
@jordanmason7127 Ай бұрын
Yeah, as an Australian when I watch a video from someone I know is living in Australia I hate it when I actually check out their sponsor and it turns out that the product they are peddling isn’t even available in Australia. So like how would they know how good the product is if there is no way they could have tried it? It does make it easier to spot a bad product this way at least but this is just one aspect of how bad sponsorships are becoming these days.
@StillNoClue22
@StillNoClue22 Ай бұрын
@@duffinthemuffin5792fr like ive seen gameplay of raid and it looks so bad its like 480p 💀
@GabrielleTollerson
@GabrielleTollerson Ай бұрын
exactly
@ashleylongley1628
@ashleylongley1628 Ай бұрын
I’m really proud of Danny Gonzalez who, once people told him what better help actually was like, took the sponsor off the video. More people need to do that
@garcipat
@garcipat Ай бұрын
Babish is currently advertising it frequemtly and people are commenting always a lot. but some creators have contracts and cannot just leave i suppose. but there should always be a limit what we shoulb tolerate.
@andreeacat7071
@andreeacat7071 Ай бұрын
@@garcipatBabish himself probably doesn’t even read his own comments.
@garcipat
@garcipat Ай бұрын
@@andreeacat7071 sadly and probably true
@lawrencecalablaster568
@lawrencecalablaster568 28 күн бұрын
Meanwhile, Jay Foreman’s only response has been to say that he’s stuck in a contract.
@jackisbored2608
@jackisbored2608 27 күн бұрын
I love Danny 💜
@glassramen
@glassramen Ай бұрын
Don't forget the psychological manipulation of making the cancel button say "quit therapy." Seems innocuous to some sure, but that phrase has serious power behind it to anyone who has gone through therapy and deals with psychological issues. It's akin to saying "You need help, but you're actively deciding to not take it."
@subliminal-damage
@subliminal-damage Ай бұрын
That's a really good point. A terrible company like this really needs to be exposed as NOT being real therapy. Because people who've never tried therapy before may never try again after this kind of experience.
@squarerootof2
@squarerootof2 Ай бұрын
The button should say, "Quit therapy, you quitter!!!"
@AmonAnon-vw3hr
@AmonAnon-vw3hr Ай бұрын
Typical corporate manipulation.
@mudkatt2003
@mudkatt2003 Ай бұрын
yeah I thought that was the bad thing there, "quit therapy" feels like a "give up your life is hopeless" vibe. I thought the don't quit button was pretty straight forward
@eldavisfire
@eldavisfire Ай бұрын
ye that's a low blow, but granted, therapy its a scam, so you can view it as "exit scam"
@TheInnocentRabbitofCaerbannog
@TheInnocentRabbitofCaerbannog Ай бұрын
Ima be real, if its a sponsor, ill consider it a scam automatically
@coolbrotherf127
@coolbrotherf127 Ай бұрын
Same, in my experience, only scammers and grifters spend so much advertising money on KZfaq. 90% of the products advertised on KZfaq always end up being some kind of scam or just overpriced crap.
@ravenRedwake
@ravenRedwake Ай бұрын
Amen man.
@Youll_Love_It_At_Levitz
@Youll_Love_It_At_Levitz Ай бұрын
What about Echelon promoting incogni🤔?
@snygg1993
@snygg1993 Ай бұрын
@@Youll_Love_It_At_Levitz Best case scenario: you waste some money. More realistic scenario: they are selling detailed profiles of all your online activities.
@JWC_4_2_0
@JWC_4_2_0 Ай бұрын
​@@Youll_Love_It_At_Levitzas someone who's tried Incogni, its actually pretty sweet. It used to be if i googled my name id be able to find my address, phone number and a bunch of other info from those people finder agregator sites. After paying for it for a month them cancelling now when i google my name none of that comes up anymore.
@vrkhel
@vrkhel Ай бұрын
I'm a simple man. I see a Betterhelp sponsorship, I unsubscribe.
@seachelle2316
@seachelle2316 Ай бұрын
This is the way
@paytonpryor
@paytonpryor 24 күн бұрын
I make sure to leave a comment so others know as well. It sends a clear message.
@Godzillaminusone70
@Godzillaminusone70 23 күн бұрын
i wish i would do that but i doubt i would care.
@LupusGr3y
@LupusGr3y 23 күн бұрын
I do the same for all VPN sponsorships
@noneofur.buisness
@noneofur.buisness 19 күн бұрын
good on you, i did the same
@bakawaki
@bakawaki Ай бұрын
Companies that prey upon people's mental health really need to face criminal charges.
@blademasterzero
@blademasterzero Ай бұрын
Criminal negligence
@mugnuz
@mugnuz Ай бұрын
you cant just banish a quarter to third of the healthcare industry...
@jannikheidemann3805
@jannikheidemann3805 Ай бұрын
@@mugnuz Why not? If it is the peoples will and we're in a democracy and it is passed into law, then why not?
@mugnuz
@mugnuz Ай бұрын
@@jannikheidemann3805 if if if. then do. its just not how it usually goes. would it be rational and nice? sure but its not utopia
@ContentEnjoyer-gm3ky
@ContentEnjoyer-gm3ky 18 күн бұрын
@@jannikheidemann3805*Constitutional Republic If you live in the States
@leightonvalencia4167
@leightonvalencia4167 Ай бұрын
fuck im so glad i use crippling alcoholism as a coping mechanism over online mental health alternatives.
@iHaveTheDocuments
@iHaveTheDocuments Ай бұрын
Based
@THE-X-Force
@THE-X-Force Ай бұрын
I get it .. but it catches up with you.
@victordauphin2949
@victordauphin2949 Ай бұрын
Like any medication. It's only meant to be a crutch to help you cope until you heal enough that you don't need it. If you stay on any head meds, either prescription or self medication, for too long devastating side effects catch up to you. Doesn't matter if it's SSRI's, benzodiazipenes, alcohol, amphetamines or any of the other 1000s. They're all a band aid patch for your mental health that covers up the symptoms without addressing the actual root cause. Best to just go to therapy (not BetterHelp though) and start eating healthier drinking more water and exercising.
@youbetyourwrasse
@youbetyourwrasse Ай бұрын
Oh I know friend, ain't it the truth? I used to be severly troubled with mental illness. Now I'm not troubled. Problem solved. :D
@youbetyourwrasse
@youbetyourwrasse Ай бұрын
@@THE-X-Force not if you use meth to outrun it. boom-tish
@raphk9599
@raphk9599 Ай бұрын
I keep getting gambling ads after i started searching for gambling addiction self help videos.
@ilovewaffles321
@ilovewaffles321 Ай бұрын
Bruh…
@Sum1Better
@Sum1Better Ай бұрын
Yep. But that's ai search and modern algorithms at work
@robmorgan1214
@robmorgan1214 Ай бұрын
KZfaq is evil.
@THE-X-Force
@THE-X-Force Ай бұрын
Disable 3rd party cookies and get rid of fakebook ..
@youbetyourwrasse
@youbetyourwrasse Ай бұрын
I get Miracle Bra and Manscaping on the same video. I must be a mess.
@pumpkinpie7254
@pumpkinpie7254 Ай бұрын
Too many KZfaqr's DO NOT research these companies before accepting the sponsor's paycheck. It's sad 🙄
@StillNoClue22
@StillNoClue22 Ай бұрын
Frr they take anything they get
@Caldera_Scarab
@Caldera_Scarab Ай бұрын
​@@StillNoClue22at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if the KZfaqrs just don't care and just accept the sponsor anyway cuz 'its free money!!1!'
@miltown3920
@miltown3920 Ай бұрын
@@Caldera_Scarabcould be like the cs2 gambling site ads situation rn where the companies offer youtubers so much money they can "ignore" the problem (which in cs2s case is its a well known thing the biggest consumers of gambling sites are under 18)
@tutacat
@tutacat 20 күн бұрын
Or they,, go back to the exact same sponsor. Veritasium key example.
@Jadeerai738
@Jadeerai738 Күн бұрын
A bag is a bag
@cinderefell1399
@cinderefell1399 Ай бұрын
Should be illegal. Glad YT are policing ad blockers instead of looking closer at the ads they are taking cash to promote.
@lightmetro7508
@lightmetro7508 Ай бұрын
KZfaq blaming me for using an ad blocker when half the "ads" I get are just mobile games with softcore porn
@fbidumbbee
@fbidumbbee Ай бұрын
yt forcing me to look at 18+ ads DIRECTED AT CHILDREN despite me reporting them, but giving me a warning for child endangerment on a vine playlist that's existed since 2019. scummy site run by scummy people
@ZphyZphyer
@ZphyZphyer 19 күн бұрын
insert something between the two comments above, specially the first one
@Flamingo123e
@Flamingo123e 4 күн бұрын
I keep getting those weird 'gacha heat' ads
@ebullientbronco9859
@ebullientbronco9859 Ай бұрын
Ironic having an incogni sponsorship, considering the fact that they don’t exactly make it easy to cancel their subscription plan either, deliberately.
@oatmeal710
@oatmeal710 Ай бұрын
has there ever been an easy to cancel subscription?
@guidoderosa
@guidoderosa Ай бұрын
Now another youtuber will make a video 'The "Incogni" KZfaq Virus is BACK' and have BetterHelp as a sponsor.
@MamaMOB
@MamaMOB Ай бұрын
Well Incogni isn't for mental health so there's that. They're not claiming to give you health care. It's not just about the subscription.
@Wyzai
@Wyzai Ай бұрын
@@oatmeal710all the ones I've ever had. You log in and click "cancel subscription" and it's done.
@_wazner
@_wazner Ай бұрын
Almost true, I just sent them an email and they cancelled. They should make it easier, but an email was enough.
@dragonfalcon8474
@dragonfalcon8474 Ай бұрын
BetterHelp-ing themselves to your wallet. And all the influencers promoting this garbage should be ashamed.
@TheNefastor
@TheNefastor Ай бұрын
Influencers have no shame. The very word is an accusation yet they are proud of it.
@HyperboreanJihad
@HyperboreanJihad Ай бұрын
Influncers only care about money you can always see when a sponsor ad season starts when you see like 10 different KZfaqrs read the script with no changes so you can hear the corporate speak And they don’t care to say anything to their community just look at any sponsor video even from just a year ago there’s still videos with links to that Scottish land scam
@Kalinskiya
@Kalinskiya Ай бұрын
True and real!
@tefnutofhoney2832
@tefnutofhoney2832 Ай бұрын
They should be deplatformed tbh
@thatoneannoyingtornadosire8755
@thatoneannoyingtornadosire8755 Ай бұрын
Agreed, there's no excuse when there's other crappy products for them to shill that don't take advantage of people in a mentally bad spot as widely known and as egregious as betterhelp
@awhataduck8915
@awhataduck8915 Ай бұрын
My actual therapist recommended better help. I was shocked. I tried to tell her it wasn’t to be trusted because she didn’t believe me
@htspencer9084
@htspencer9084 Ай бұрын
She's probably paid to forget.
@C8t8l8na
@C8t8l8na Ай бұрын
Yikes.
@Primal_Directive
@Primal_Directive Ай бұрын
Curious as to the reason your actual therapist would refer you to a supposedly "good" zoom call style (shit) app.
@awhataduck8915
@awhataduck8915 Ай бұрын
@@Primal_Directive 🤷‍♀️
@tutacat
@tutacat 20 күн бұрын
Money.
@Wastelandmatrix
@Wastelandmatrix Ай бұрын
Now imagine them selling those data to insurances so they don’t accept you for pre-existing conditions
@MiraBoo
@MiraBoo Ай бұрын
Yikes!
@sarahwhitmore6951
@sarahwhitmore6951 Ай бұрын
That's terrifying
@lillexus5589
@lillexus5589 Ай бұрын
Like Incogni does with your data you mean?
@SL4RK
@SL4RK Ай бұрын
With each passing day, we're hitting another bottom, the feeling that greed has no limit.
@jannikheidemann3805
@jannikheidemann3805 Ай бұрын
That is exactly how I immagine they have that much money to sponsor at such high rates.
@joshrodgers9366
@joshrodgers9366 Ай бұрын
The whole "creators need sponsors for money" thing really isnt that clear cut. I need money to survive. Im dirt poor. But if i start selling dangerous drugs on the street that will cause harm to my customers then thats not okay. The viewers are customers and when you're sponsored your essentialy selling us that product or selling us on it using your influence so if that product is harmful then its not justified by "creator need money"
@amicaaranearum
@amicaaranearum Ай бұрын
I feel no guilt about using SponsorBlock when channels take sponsorships from shady companies.
@involith
@involith Ай бұрын
exactly this !!! id rather be broke and have basic morals than accept a check that requires me to tell people who might trust my opinion to use a product that has directly hurt so many fuckin people. ill take my food stamps any day if gettin money meant i had to let a company take advantage of vulnerable people
@sectionsixty4020
@sectionsixty4020 Ай бұрын
Its also not the creators job to make sure the product is safe and effective. Thats your job.
@peepawfart
@peepawfart Ай бұрын
@@sectionsixty4020 Except... If you are getting paid to advertise something... It is, in fact, your responsibility to make sure you arent advertising legitimate garbage. Like i'm sorry I'm going to say it but without an audience, no youtuber would have anything to their name at all. Without an audience, youtubers wouldn't even GET sponsorships. so the least they can do it make sure they aren't selling shit that could actively HARM the audience that pays their damn bills.
@StillNoClue22
@StillNoClue22 Ай бұрын
@@sectionsixty4020a creator still shouldnt sponsor an obviously bad and dangerous sponsorship. In fact, it IS their job to research the sponsorship atleast a LITTLE bit to see if theyre not advertising a… i dunno… scam???
@metazare
@metazare Ай бұрын
I unsubbed to a lot of channels when I saw them start shilling this. People have the memory of goldfish.
@RenegadeVile
@RenegadeVile Ай бұрын
Good, hold creators accountable.
@KokoroKatsura
@KokoroKatsura Ай бұрын
HUGE ANIME BREASTS
@metazare
@metazare Ай бұрын
@@KokoroKatsura
@JackWse
@JackWse Ай бұрын
Yeah it's real frustrating when it comes from the same source as well.. people that actually covered this lol.. like it's unexcusable either way, they're either too stupid to do a simple search before promoting something so.. clearly any of their content really can't have any value beyond aesthetic... Or they're actively not caring that they're they are directing the most vulnerable subsection of their audience into harm's way for cash.
@HiddenStr3ngth
@HiddenStr3ngth Ай бұрын
The sad thing is, if you unsub and stop watching everyone who shills and lies, or did at some point, about raid casino legends, better help and some other scummy scams... You'd have to unsub from 90-95% of channels and blacklist most streamers. Most of the rest, just aren't big enough to get the sponsorships. There is such a tiny fraction of content creators with integrity, it's insane. The ones who have great reputation for being "nice" and good people blah blah. The same, also sooner or later started to shill scams. Even when they already make lots of money.
@Fenriskoll
@Fenriskoll Ай бұрын
I did a betterhelp session once years ago. My "therapist" forgot my appointment, then talked over his kids the whole time. I think they were at the park. I had to keep repeating myself and it went nowhere. These people are fakes. Don't be fooled.
@pavloz1818
@pavloz1818 Ай бұрын
Next: *The "Incogni" KZfaq Virus is BACK*
@tailpig6417
@tailpig6417 26 күн бұрын
"But before we get further into the video, I'd like to thank our sponsor: BetterHelp..."
@LupusGr3y
@LupusGr3y 23 күн бұрын
Or "How VPNs don't protect your privacy." I see that surfshark link in the description.
@tutacat
@tutacat 20 күн бұрын
"You couldn't possibly send 100s of emails"
@Marinealver
@Marinealver Ай бұрын
The nice thing about KZfaq ads is that it lets me know which products, services, and companies to AVOID!
@anonymousanon5390
@anonymousanon5390 Ай бұрын
Same. I never buy products or services that i saw in a ad.
@Knirin
@Knirin Ай бұрын
I have seen one good ad, but that was for a very niche product and quite a while ago.
@JackWse
@JackWse Ай бұрын
Lol no shit right? Seems like it's about a 90% ratio maybe higher.. kind of screws it up for the rest that actually have a product worthy, like you got a filter a little bit.. The $3 earbuds for a fortune, The garbage spyware browsers... The mobile gotcha games... Like it helps if you frame it a little bit more honestly than these services are attempting at, to get that personal connection and personal recommendation from the KZfaq and creator-based model of content delivery.. But, it is what it is and you kind of got to read between the lines a little bit, not too much though. But it's pretty clear at this point, if it's in an advertisement... You're better off disregarding it, or actively avoiding it then you are to actually take a recommendation assuming that a creator actually believes in a product or even says they believe in a product... There are things like HelloFresh and whatnot, those are legit, actually, reasonably up front services that do a thing.. and even some of the VPNs are reasonable for a VPN service, although... All of them should be treated extremely suspect when selecting because it's incredibly region-dependent and One should understand what they're doing with that, and what it offers and what it doesn't and what one has to do on their end before even bothering... But you know what.. The bar is so low, and the creators themselves will talk about it outside of this particular sponsorship video etc.. you basically like okay yeah, all of this is trash until proven otherwise, because you're seeing the absolute trash of the trash, to the point of harmful, sold under the same emphasis More often then not, as anything that's quality.
@multiekstravardistan4480
@multiekstravardistan4480 Ай бұрын
same, only ad i clicked was Overdrive song promo xD
@kubakielbasa5987
@kubakielbasa5987 Ай бұрын
It's like searching for 1 fish(a good advertised product) in the sea of advertisements
@gamerboy6787
@gamerboy6787 Ай бұрын
So BetterHelp is basically this year's version of Established Titles... only the "product" being hawked is therapy, rather than land ownership.
@UpperEchelon
@UpperEchelon Ай бұрын
Established titles wasnt even that bad tbh. It was a novelty gift... this is a "mental health" application with may more sinister implications in their activity.
@delusion5867
@delusion5867 Ай бұрын
@@UpperEchelon Yeah, at least the worst thing established titles could do was waste your money, betterhelp can do so much worse
@two_number_nines
@two_number_nines Ай бұрын
*Established titles is 2018's betterhelp.
@lasskinn474
@lasskinn474 Ай бұрын
well at least established titles changed branding for the scam from the last time the same exact scam was ran.
@jackielinde7568
@jackielinde7568 Ай бұрын
No, because while Established Titles was a con, it did little to harm those it was fleecing, and the take was relatively low. BetterHelp "contracted" subpar therapists, forced them into bad work contracts, signed up people without properly advising them of their rights under HIPAA (if you're in the US), violating their rights under HIPAA (if you're in the US), and bilked them for sessions their patients did not attend. I work for a large healthcare system in the US Southwest. If my employer even attempted a sliver of what they did, the Feds would swoop in and shut us down. There would be no settlement. There would be no billing Medicare/Medicaid. And when state ran health plans and private insurance companies got wind of that, we wouldn't be able to bill them, either. Effectively a death blow. The only reason it's not a death blow for BetterHelp is that BetterHelp does not bill any federal, state, or private insurance as their business is 100 percent out of pocket.
@Unfortunately_Mickey
@Unfortunately_Mickey Ай бұрын
Mickey Atkins is a therapist on youtube thats been cataloging BetterHelp's activities. They never stopped. Thanks for bringing attention to it again
@MiraBoo
@MiraBoo Ай бұрын
I wish Better Help hadn’t forced Mickey to remove their original video criticizing them. It was one of the few videos I could find (before stumbling on this one) that actually addressed how Better Help had profiles/accounts made of real therapists without those therapists’ knowledge or consent. Better Help (through CareDash) deliberately mislead and essentially stole their clientele/patients from legitimate licensed therapists.
@DiamondDepthYT
@DiamondDepthYT Ай бұрын
KZfaqrs, including Anthony Padilla, Jacksfilms, and Daniel Thrasher, continue to accept sponsorships from BetterHelp, even with this knowledge out there. And to add onto that, it's like everyone just forgot that BH did this in the first place, allowing them to continue sponsoring their favorite creators with no complaints. I can't believe this at all. Why has BH not been given the Established Titles treatment yet?!
@Krithaul
@Krithaul Ай бұрын
It's a shame, As far as I've read many of these guys have contracts for several videos. If I'm not wrong Ted Nivison still had some videos for his contract when the controversy resurfaced. It's a shame that most youtubers don't do their research. Also I did not expect to see your comment here.
@pineapplewhatever5906
@pineapplewhatever5906 Ай бұрын
Vsauce is also taking sponsorships from BetterHelp...bruh.
@catalyst539
@catalyst539 22 күн бұрын
Think Ryan George (the pitch meetings guy) is as well. Or at least he was. Maybe he’s stopped now.
@pineapplewhatever5906
@pineapplewhatever5906 22 күн бұрын
Adding SB737 to the list
@NoLeftTurns965
@NoLeftTurns965 19 күн бұрын
Daniel Thrasher is the worst one. He didn't just take a sponsorship. He went out of his way to make full ads for them.
@exiledzebra8740
@exiledzebra8740 Ай бұрын
I've tried the app and I felt like I was helping the councilors with their mental health more than they "helped" me
@nerychristian
@nerychristian Ай бұрын
Maybe you were chatting with an AI bot
@JohnDoe-uq9ni
@JohnDoe-uq9ni Ай бұрын
thats all therpy but you losers pay out the ass for it
@Hackanhacker
@Hackanhacker Ай бұрын
xD
@1000MilesAway
@1000MilesAway Ай бұрын
I'm so curious to hear more about this
@AI3Dorinte
@AI3Dorinte Ай бұрын
This is bullshit and those are not councilors those are therapists...
@JustinSmith-mh7mi
@JustinSmith-mh7mi Ай бұрын
Thank God someone is still holding them accountable. Why do cc's keep taking their money, especially when many know their whole business model is a grift?
@erc3338
@erc3338 Ай бұрын
Simply put, many still don't.
@commonsense7754
@commonsense7754 Ай бұрын
You answered your own question…. $$$ greed
@TheGreenKnight500
@TheGreenKnight500 Ай бұрын
A lot of content creators are genuinely really dumb
@iHaveTheDocuments
@iHaveTheDocuments Ай бұрын
Because 96% if cc are trash that only do it for money.
@thebarkingmouse
@thebarkingmouse Ай бұрын
Yt - we must combat medical misinformation, you are BANNED for saying men don't become women. Also yt - let me tell you about this one weird trick that cures diabeatus
@wanbon
@wanbon Ай бұрын
My aunt is a licensed therapist and has had more than one patient that was horribly misdiagnosed by BetterHelp therapists. Which isn't surprising, considering they're allowed to operate by text only which is generally a big no-no - humans have so much body language and unconscious vocal tells that are vital to accurate diagnosis. They also allow therapists to work outside their own state, which is illegal to put it bluntly. Therapist licenses have specific restrictions based on that state's board, which often require different levels of experience/mentor hours etc. Not to mention entirely different countries and their requirements. Not even once with BetterHelp.
@harpon2816
@harpon2816 12 күн бұрын
Therapists aren't even supposed to give diagnoses regardless, no? They can identify problems and suggest approaches but normally a psychologist makes the actual diagnosis.
@Nimble.ninja910
@Nimble.ninja910 12 күн бұрын
Well to play devils advocate a little, i was a corpsman in the navy, that’s worked in my fair share of mental health departments, we sometimes do make check in calls/text on every patient to catch up with them. However we also saw them in person on a weekly, bi -weekly basis. Not saying you’re wrong just saying there are multiple facets of care depending on the severity of each patient. I do agree that better-help’s strict policy of “socially distant therapist” is very costly on how much they can do for someone.
@BeryIstanbulTips
@BeryIstanbulTips Ай бұрын
I just received an email from BetterHelp offering to sponsor my channel. I immediately rejected it and I made sure to let them know why: ‘Thank you for your email. I must reject this sponsorship since I know what BetterHelp has done in the past and the reputation of the platform. I truly care about my audience and I know BetterHelp’s sponsorship is not a good fit for my channel. Have a great day, Bery.’ Yes, I have done sponsorships before but only of products or services I genuinely use. If there’s one contacting me and I have never used, I first take my time to do an extensive research of the brand, reviews, etc before accepting, if I see a fishy one, I just decline it or not even answer their emails. Content creators need to be more aware of what they are promoting, we have an audience and we need to take care of them too, not everything has to be done just for money.
@DSh-zh3vt
@DSh-zh3vt 22 күн бұрын
Nice
@GachaWolf81900
@GachaWolf81900 15 күн бұрын
U are a good citizen, and i shall be checking out ur channel
@Bruce4lmighty
@Bruce4lmighty Ай бұрын
Any company that credits more than 0.2% of gross revenue provides poor service and needs to be avoided. I’ve never seen any company credit 8% gross revenue ever. In any sector. I’m over 50…
@UpperEchelon
@UpperEchelon Ай бұрын
I couldn't find an adequate comparison but I hope people realize how unbelievably bad refunding 8% of your revenue is
@BigBossBernie
@BigBossBernie Ай бұрын
@@UpperEchelon Considering that those 8% are just the amount they undeniably had to refund in order to avoid higher costs/ lawsuits, customers might have much higher claims (20% or more?) which are either in clearing or they try to try to not disclose in their financials. You would find them in provisions which can always be argued to just be estimations and therefore be not as bad.
@unmountablebootvolume
@unmountablebootvolume Ай бұрын
@@UpperEchelon AST Computer. I would recommend watching the 8 bit guy's talk on them. They made a 737 max look high quality, and an 8% return/refund rate look microscopic. So yeah, you can always get shittier.
@martinandroid2538
@martinandroid2538 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the heads-up. If I see a KZfaqr promoting "Better Help" I'll attempt to direct them here. Mental health is infested with predators...
@youbetyourwrasse
@youbetyourwrasse Ай бұрын
Mental health is infested with predators? Oh my, I hazard to think what mental disease is infested with. :D
@LisaMarie042
@LisaMarie042 Ай бұрын
Mr Ballen has them as a sponsor now, w his 8.87M subs. If ur not familiar w Mr Ballen, he's the best (imo) storyteller anywhere, and he does stories about "the strange, dark, and mysterious". He's also a Navy SEAL, and when he does his ad read for BH he talks about when he became a civilian again, the difficult transition, and also the PTSD he had from being in active combat. He gives the impression he has used BH for his therapy, which I'm 99% sure isn't the case. I think he's talking about his own struggles and how he needed therapy to work things out as a testimonial to therapy in general. I don't think he'd keep them as a sponsor if he knew all this.
@DCR94
@DCR94 Ай бұрын
I know that Kyle Hill promoted it 3 months ago. I was kinda iffy about his channel since.
@juliana.x0x0
@juliana.x0x0 Ай бұрын
@@LisaMarie042I write a comment EVERY TIME he uses them as a sponsor in the video, warning the viewers about better help. It immediately becomes blocked...and yea, I've checked the "newest" comments tab, and scroll through hundreds of comments to see if I missed it. Creators can block certain words in their comments, and I think that's what is happening. I've avoided using the name, instead using just sponsor, same thing happens. There's no way he isn't aware of the negative issues surrounding betterhelp. And if he doesn't, that's negligence. For things as serious as mental health treatment, SOMEONE on his team should be doing their due diligence looking into sponsorships they accept. They're funneling their most vulnerable viewers to a terrible company, and since he has such a dedicated audience, he has gained a level of trust with them. There's no excuse. And he makes so much money from his videos, podcasts, other sponsors, merch, and other endeavors. The greed has gotten in the way of his better judgment, and he does not have my respect.
@metallboy25
@metallboy25 Ай бұрын
Thats all its ever been. Scumbags extracting money from gullible people by pretending they have all the answers.
@dirremoire
@dirremoire Ай бұрын
Any sponsored product goes automatically on my "do not buy" list.
@MarteenMayjer
@MarteenMayjer Ай бұрын
Thank you for making this. I decided to give their service a try during the prevent back in 2020 and had the WORST therapy experience I’ve ever had in my life. I was going through some pretty rough stuff at the time and this woman that they assigned me was clearly unqualified and had zero empathy, which was crazy. Can’t wait to see this company go bankrupt
@PossessiveK
@PossessiveK Ай бұрын
I'm so sorry that happened to you. I hope the years since then have been better to you
@Ally5141
@Ally5141 Ай бұрын
Dude, Ubisoft does exactly the same "no cancellation" thing with their subscription. Literally returning error 404 for cancelation site.
@jackielinde7568
@jackielinde7568 Ай бұрын
But does Ubisoft pretend to offer medical services and violate every notion of privacy? I'm not saying Ubisoft is a great company by any means, but this part of their sins fails in comparison to the rest of what BetterHelp does. Now, with that said, I wouldn't want to work for either company, seeing their treatment of employees and contractors are the same.
@rebaa2175
@rebaa2175 Ай бұрын
The point wasn't that one is worse than the other, the point was the awful cancellation process
@zeze3305
@zeze3305 Ай бұрын
​@@jackielinde7568You like choosing how they F you?
@scyobiempire4450
@scyobiempire4450 Ай бұрын
same with GenderGP
@darksu6947
@darksu6947 Ай бұрын
​@@scyobiempire4450Very clever 😂
@amphiptered.5355
@amphiptered.5355 Ай бұрын
What? Betterhelp is still operating? How many times is this "service" going to be exposed before the supposed authorities do their job? I am surprised they didn't at least try to rebrand. I like to think people have a decent long term memory.
@THE-X-Force
@THE-X-Force Ай бұрын
If the avg. person had any long-term memory there wouldn't be a red hat left in the country.
@sihamhamda47
@sihamhamda47 Ай бұрын
Same, I thought that betterhelp was already bankrupt because I've NEVER seen any of those ads since 2022, only to find that they suddenly popping off again this year
@DigitalApex
@DigitalApex Ай бұрын
​@@THE-X-Force He's getting re-elected. Cope.
@luisfreitas4724
@luisfreitas4724 Ай бұрын
They were fined by the ftc. A few channels kept talking about better help, saying they were even worse than before. But some youtubers just don't care and keep advertising. Oh well
@JohnDBlue
@JohnDBlue Ай бұрын
​@@DigitalApex man I feel sorry for Americans. They truly hate their country and themselves so much 😂
@blackmagehedonist
@blackmagehedonist 28 күн бұрын
The use of the wording "Quit Therapy" is also a psychological angle. There is a much more negative connotation with choosing to quit something like therapy than there is with choosing to cancel your service with a specific provider. If you are quitting then you are giving up on doing something, whilst cancelling a service is just that, cancelling a specific service - in many cases to replace it with another! What Better Help opted to use is a shame tactic to make the client feel just that tiny bit more guilty about hitting that cancel button. This is why they opted to use the exact wording they have when you attempt to cancel your subscription with them. As a mental health app, they know full and well that this is a shame tactic and that their client base includes vulnerable individuals who are susceptible to such exploitative practices, yet they still opted to use them and exploit the mental health struggles of those clients in an attempt to get them not to cancel their subscriptions! That's pretty bloody shady for an app that claims to care about bettering people's mental health, now isn't it? Almost like the shame tactics some abusers try to use when you try to leave them!
@KaeYoss
@KaeYoss Ай бұрын
The "best" part about this scam is that it targets people with mental health issues. Meaning, people who are more likely to cave under the mental pressure and don't go through with the cancellation. Lack of decisiveness is probably much more common with people with anxiety issues or who experienced burn out
@Sebastian_Michaelis
@Sebastian_Michaelis Ай бұрын
Ayo is that the n*zi eagle in the gay flag 😭😭😭
@NoLeftTurns965
@NoLeftTurns965 19 күн бұрын
On top of that, they treat their audience as if everyone has mental health issues. I wouldn't be surprised if most of their therapists aren't licensed, because no licensed therapist would think it's okay to treat everyone around them as mentally ill. That's how you create an epidemic of munchausen's(the term for faking a disorder or illness).
@Keniisu
@Keniisu Ай бұрын
As someone who has worked in the mental healthcare industry, it's incredible how many horror stories come out of this company.
@johannderjager4146
@johannderjager4146 Ай бұрын
As someone who's Autistic and struggles with Chronic Depression, I implore anyone who's struggling to go to an actual therapist. It's better to talk face-to-face with someone than through a screen, and that's the least of the problems with "Better Help". Never trust an org that advertises so heavily on KZfaq with anything regarding your own health. My therapist has really helped me through my life since I was a kid. She even gave me my Ball Python: Noodle-Bob, who's been a boon to my mental health.
@fennecfoxfanatic
@fennecfoxfanatic Ай бұрын
Noodle-Bob is such an amzing name!
@zombiefolklore
@zombiefolklore Ай бұрын
That is a fantastic name for a snake.
@Drako9823
@Drako9823 Ай бұрын
Reptiles are the best
@cosmancho2959
@cosmancho2959 Ай бұрын
If you are still depressed, that doesn't sound like your therapist helped much.
@metallboy25
@metallboy25 Ай бұрын
​@@cosmancho2959Their job is not to help. Their job is to extract money indefinitely. If anything this female therapist has been conditioning him to think and behave like a woman since childhood. No wonder he is depressed.
@OuterGalaxyLounge
@OuterGalaxyLounge Ай бұрын
If you make bad pancakes, you need Batter Help.
@williammuldrow2165
@williammuldrow2165 Ай бұрын
Ah, I do enjoy a good pun.
@AstraSystem
@AstraSystem Ай бұрын
When I was leaving my previous therapy job, I applied to an interesting looking opportunity in a health system that I hadn't heard of. I researched the company and it looked like a legit smaller healthcare provider the next state over. It turns out the agency was a disguised recruitment agency and they were recruiting for BetterHelp. I noped out of that phone interview SO fast. So very deceptive even in their hiring practices. I opened my own virtual practice instead.
@brainmuffins6052
@brainmuffins6052 Ай бұрын
Ad starts: “It’s okay not to be okay…” So, if it’s okay, then why do i need help?!
@roque87
@roque87 Ай бұрын
Oh no! He's figuring it out
@travismcnasty4239
@travismcnasty4239 Ай бұрын
Also, bad therapy is worse than no therapy.
@nox5555
@nox5555 Ай бұрын
@@travismcnasty4239 I havent seen any study that compares therapy against drinking. I have worked with plenty of functional alcoholics but i never met somebody on meds that wasnt useless and a danger. We have a forklift operator at work that drinks a bottle of vodka and half a bottle of mouthwash every day and he performs perfectly. meanwhile the whole HR department is on SSRIs and they cant even get the shifts right. BUT its very different between ethnic groups so i guess there is something genetical about it. Never met a dry lithuanian, but also never met a homeless one. drinking is even a benefit for them, its turns them from horrible truck drivers into perfect factory worker.
@victordauphin2949
@victordauphin2949 Ай бұрын
​@@travismcnasty4239nah bad mental health "professionals" cause more mental health problems than they solve.
@Sakattack2023
@Sakattack2023 Ай бұрын
Try to go to church instead?
@piratebear3126
@piratebear3126 Ай бұрын
One of the niche gaming channels I watched took a BetterHelp ad, then turned off comments to hide from the backlash. Only to have to turn them back on because BH’s contract requires a link in the comments. So if a channel you watch takes their money: they have to leave the comments on and take the backlash, or give the money back and get no bag *and* no dignity.
@amicaaranearum
@amicaaranearum Ай бұрын
SponsorBlock
@emiliskog
@emiliskog Ай бұрын
​@@amicaaranearum so dang useful when Im on my pc sadly not available when on my phone due to using the official app
@NoctisTheBogWitch
@NoctisTheBogWitch Ай бұрын
​@@emiliskogRevanced.
@emiliskog
@emiliskog Ай бұрын
@@NoctisTheBogWitch literally realized to look for it after I made the comment, although i have an issue where shorts (which I watch too many of but still) just wont play fully and or not load which annoys me somewhat
@NoctisTheBogWitch
@NoctisTheBogWitch Ай бұрын
@@emiliskog Don't use the shorts patches.
@soup331emd5
@soup331emd5 Ай бұрын
Betterhelp executives need to be held criminally liable.
@john4845
@john4845 Ай бұрын
Wild that in a video exposing a scam sponsor, he promotes another scam sponsor….
@GachaWolf81900
@GachaWolf81900 15 күн бұрын
Ikr 😂
@TriangleChloros
@TriangleChloros 11 күн бұрын
What's wrong with Incogni? (I'm genuinely asking - I did a search and nothing came up, but I haven't looked into Incogni much so it's entirely possible I just missed something.)
@The-Man-On-The-Mountain
@The-Man-On-The-Mountain Ай бұрын
Conspiracy theory = I got caught
@mr.s9783
@mr.s9783 Ай бұрын
“You weren’t supposed to do that!”
@aboomer420
@aboomer420 Ай бұрын
Ive dropped 3 channels i watched for years because of betterhelp sponsors. had one of them call it virtue signalling on twitter. nuts.
@5thfloor584
@5thfloor584 Ай бұрын
yeah MrBallen can't help himself, he needs more money! lol its disgusting when creators act like they personally use the ads they're sponsored by. I don't blame youtubers with little ad revenue taking any sponsor, but bigger channels with millions should be more honest about the companies they're shilling for. As you can make money easily when you have a lot of it, no excuse to take sketchy sponsors money.
@aboomer420
@aboomer420 Ай бұрын
@@5thfloor584 I almost watched one of his videos for the first time in ages the other day. glad I decided not to lol
@kumabear3529
@kumabear3529 Ай бұрын
If the channels are interesting enough, I don’t drop them. I just treat every sponsor as akin to those late night infomercials. I take everything advertised online as being bullcrap.
@melimsah
@melimsah Ай бұрын
Not everyone has gotten the memo the first time around, and being a KZfaqr is harder than ever and sponsors are necessary, so I won't immediately drop someone for taking a better help sponsorship the first time around. But if they're still doing it after the backlash in the comments, I'll consider it
@jackielinde7568
@jackielinde7568 Ай бұрын
Was one of those channels Cinema Therapy? I dumped them because one of their hosts/bosses, Johnathan Decker, is listed as a licensed therapist. HE SHOULD KNOW THESE PEOPLE ARE SHIT! Other channels where they're not medical or medical-adjacent areas I'll give more leeway too. After all, if you're not in the industry, it's kind of hard to know the rules.
@kaliek5281
@kaliek5281 Ай бұрын
My "favorite" Better Help horror story was when a Gay individual signed up and SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED a therapist who was comfortable treating gay individuals....and was immediately signed up with one who tried to push Conversion Therapy on them. Its downright malicious.
@jannikheidemann3805
@jannikheidemann3805 Ай бұрын
Well, technically that person was comfortable to work on gay people. Thier work is just quackery.
@MavSavMorgan
@MavSavMorgan Ай бұрын
I remember betterhelp getting exposed like 4 years ago, I was so confused seeing youtubers advertise them again in the last year or so. Even youtubers I "respect" advertised them again after their first controversy. In my eyes the first controversy years ago is unforgivable. No youtubers should have ever worked with them again after that
@PuffinPass
@PuffinPass Ай бұрын
Next you are going to tell me that I am not a landowner in Scotland.😅😂
@KnakuanaRka
@KnakuanaRka Ай бұрын
At least that one only wasted a small amount of money; bad therapy can do far worse.
@PuffinPass
@PuffinPass Ай бұрын
@@KnakuanaRka Agreed, but my post was joking around and not serious.
@squarerootof2
@squarerootof2 Ай бұрын
But you can still be a Lord.
@cewla3348
@cewla3348 Ай бұрын
@@squarerootof2 no you can't!
@cewla3348
@cewla3348 Ай бұрын
some bad news for you buddy /s
@0verWay
@0verWay Ай бұрын
Fun fact: even GERMAN influencers and podcasts have them as sponsors now. Guess the grift is branching out across the great pond.
@win_ini
@win_ini Ай бұрын
they're looking for a new audiance, I guess! lmao, the English speaking community exposed them, so now they're trying the German speakers... brilliant plan BetterHelp!
@kitsune9873
@kitsune9873 Ай бұрын
Warte wer? Ist ja ekelhaft, habe es aber zum Glück bei noch keinem mir wichtigen mitbekommen.
@Skaði
@Skaði Ай бұрын
Yeah they are targeting the netherlands too
@franolich3
@franolich3 Ай бұрын
I've just watched a Wisecrack video ("Taylor Swift and the American Propaganda Machine") which was sponsored by BetterHelp and I was compelled to refer them to your video. I even concluded by saying: "I sincerely hope that you take these accusations seriously and do your own research since taking money from those who prey on the vulnerable is wholly unacceptable." I hope that they take notice and do not delete my comment.
@ImOblivious
@ImOblivious Ай бұрын
Manipulating your customers to prevent them from cancelling while being a therapy service for vulnerable people is just evil.
@55ziomal55
@55ziomal55 Ай бұрын
I've been struggling with depression between 2021-22 and at the time I was considering BetterHelp, but luckily I found local professionals where I live on my own. Really makes me feel like a dodged a bullet here.
@THE-X-Force
@THE-X-Force Ай бұрын
You definitely did. Nothing can replace the modality of in-person care. (EDIT: and good for you for taking charge over your own health!)
@subliminal-damage
@subliminal-damage Ай бұрын
I'm glad you sought help, and I can confirm BetterHelp is awful. My therapist didn't even listen to / remember what I'd said to him despite it LITERALLY being a message back in our chat log. Lazy af. He also entirely changed the topic of why I was seeking therapy. Huge waste of my time and money.
@KarinExMachina
@KarinExMachina Ай бұрын
​@@subliminal-damage yeah looks like they just see people suffering and see them as moneybags
@SomeBsMovie
@SomeBsMovie Ай бұрын
I'm just waiting for that HBomberguy case scenario where the youtuber guy would pretend to have a BetterHelp ad until it would spiral into being a investigation of the company.
@kman9884
@kman9884 Ай бұрын
HBomberGay the sex pest lol.
@thetruth3068
@thetruth3068 Ай бұрын
Anthony Padilla be like "existing is exhausting" I'm pretty sure he has stock in betterhelp or something. Multiple fans tried to warn him about Betterhelp, but he never listened and kept getting sponsored by them.
@Rejjyt
@Rejjyt Ай бұрын
I tried therapy with Better help and the lady they gave me told me that all my problems were in the "Good book" and because rapture was coming despite one of the only requests I made in their customisation was that I preferred someone non religious
@darrellludlow
@darrellludlow Ай бұрын
And they have been the scourge of podcast sponsorships as well.
@KippinCollars
@KippinCollars Ай бұрын
I wonder what happens to the podcasting industry when Me Undies, Manscaped, Brilliant, BetterHelp, and Blue Apron go under. Doesn't seem that anyone other than cash-burning startups sponsor podcasts en masse. I've never heard of it.
@darrellludlow
@darrellludlow Ай бұрын
@@KippinCollars Yeah, double-edged sword. But once a creator realize that their sponsor is shady, they "should" make plans to get rid of them.
@beantaz3862
@beantaz3862 Ай бұрын
​@@KippinCollars There's always the next idiot/delusional venture capitalist on deck thinking there stuff will be the one that actually becomes something.
@qazhr
@qazhr Ай бұрын
I still can’t believe some of the KZfaqrs still do ad for them
@LoganBRK1
@LoganBRK1 Ай бұрын
bc they're greedy, most only see their viewers as potential income... and up to 200usd per sign up is an insane amount of money
@metallboy25
@metallboy25 Ай бұрын
I still cant believe people are gullible enough to join the scam. 😂
@mr.s9783
@mr.s9783 Ай бұрын
@@metallboy25There are people still wearing masks my guy
@pewthepuny2849
@pewthepuny2849 Ай бұрын
@@LoganBRK1 Used to watch Cinema Therapy, but no more. They're already stinking rich, and they: Got 2+ ads on the start of each video. Sponsor from Betterhelp in the middle of the vid. 2 ads after the Betterhelp sponsorship. Bit where they tell us they're paywalling content behind Patreon. 2+ ads after the video. These ultra rich people are squeezing as hard as they possibly can to milk every cent they can from their audience, including accepting super shady sponsorships, when they're already wealthy enough to live lavish lifestyles of luxury, including doing their reviewing in a hecking home theater.
@DrinkyMcBeer
@DrinkyMcBeer Ай бұрын
​@@mr.s9783there were people wearing masks before covid, too.
@DerangedMousey
@DerangedMousey Ай бұрын
It amazes me how Anthony Padilla, one of the “historic” KZfaqrs with an incredibly popular channel that often related to the health and well-being of the people CONTINUES to use Betterhelp as a sponsor, and nobody seems to be uncomfortable with that fact?? He’s been on the Betterhelp for the last couple of years and seemingly doesn’t care or somehow doesn’t know about Betterhelp’s history
@WishGender
@WishGender Ай бұрын
Oh it drives me crazy, especially since Smosh pit has also been taking sponsorships from them on the Reddit reading show, where they literally give advice
@DerangedMousey
@DerangedMousey Ай бұрын
@@WishGender god that annoys me so much, and surely even a couple of the people involved in Anthony’s personal channel and Smosh know about how bad Betterhelp is?? Even if they don’t know about the new stuff they’ve surely gotta know about the history, I couldn’t imagine having such a large following and being so okay with encouraging my followers to use a service like Betterhelp
@baremetaltechtv
@baremetaltechtv Ай бұрын
Some of my most FAVORITE youtubers seemingly take money from sponsorships segments for BetterHelp while not knowing about the company's history. I always leave on a message on these videos when I see it, telling them about the shady business practices, inability for customers to quit the service, and not once has any one of these creators ever responded, or stopped making BetterHealth ad segments. Its a shame, I don't know if its because I mainly watch smaller content creators who are literally desperate for the support in order to keep making videos so they are scared to respond and unable to quit taking money from BetterHelp, but I feel awful that BetterHelp is infiltrating a community that I love and scamming people with a service that is hard to cancel and selling their information. I always making sure to comment on any video I see with a BetterHelp ad to at least warn the viewers, and if I'm lucky, also the creator so they might look into the company and hopefully stop any association if possible.
@alex9x9
@alex9x9 Ай бұрын
I feel that you didn't stress enough the severity and insanity of the fact that a mental health app did not verify the competence and qualification of the counselors it assigned to it's users. The potential harm of such a practice is tremendous.
@inanimatesum4945
@inanimatesum4945 Ай бұрын
Somehow BetterHelp returned
@nodot17
@nodot17 Ай бұрын
But they exploded twice 😔
@Balrog-tf3bg
@Balrog-tf3bg Ай бұрын
Never left
@williammuldrow2165
@williammuldrow2165 Ай бұрын
"I understood that reference."
@Blitzkrieg_Wolf
@Blitzkrieg_Wolf Ай бұрын
Betterhelp is the embodiment of the meme that says "Your therapist when your card declines"
@KYSMO
@KYSMO 26 күн бұрын
I think that people don't stress the severity and insanity of the fact that a mental health app did not verify the competence and qualification of the counselors it assigned to it's users. The potential harm of such a practice is tremendous. Thank you for covering this, it's so dystopianly predatory.
@crashzone6600
@crashzone6600 Ай бұрын
I treat all adds from youtube as malicious in nature. Too many of them turn out to be scams, or harmful in nature, such as vshred, VPNs, multiple self help gurus, etc. The qaulity control is so poor, that it is just better to ignore ads in general.
@lasskinn474
@lasskinn474 Ай бұрын
a problem is that normies can't discern if a vpn ad lies to them. the ad read is supposed to cause anxiety for you and 100% of vpn ad briefs are not truthful about what data goes off unencrypted from your pc normally and what encrypted, how https works, how routing works etc.
@finkamain1621
@finkamain1621 Ай бұрын
What??? You don't want to buy a $40,000 Nissan SUV that you were shown for the 327th time???
@amicaaranearum
@amicaaranearum Ай бұрын
I feel no guilt about using ad blockers when KZfaq plays ads for scams. I feel no guilt about using SponsorBlock when channels take sponsorships from shady companies.
@doufmech4323
@doufmech4323 Ай бұрын
@lasskinn474 agreed. They often also sell a VPN as a must if you visit public wifi. As long as you visit a https site any malicious person can only see what sites you visit, not what you are looking at in those sites.
@lasskinn474
@lasskinn474 Ай бұрын
@@doufmech4323 yeah. not just often but 100% of the time its' portrayed as that it wouldn't be encrypted and that some rando could see your banking data or whatever. and they don't tell that from the vpn providers datacenter it just leaves as it would have from yours and you have no control on who is tapped into that line and to who that data is sold. nor do they speak about who owns who in the vpn space and how much of that leads back to china - and as almost all tech channels are sponsored by one or another the tech channels themselves will not talk about the subject. my particular pet peeve is that all of them promise countries they don't actually have exit points for. it's on the list sure but it's an ip that will geolocate to austria instead of saudi arabia and not be in a saudi arabia block..
@BrassNolan
@BrassNolan Ай бұрын
I’m so glad my instant disgust with this fraudulent company was valid after I saw their ads pop up again.
@JaredJohnson-u6h
@JaredJohnson-u6h 9 күн бұрын
I signed up for Better Help. They assigned me to people unqualified to treat me, repeatedly. No one except the therapists ever communicated with me when I asked what was going on, and the mental health professionals were just as baffled as I was by how badly it was being handled. I eventually, after a month of getting bounced around and no treatment, threatened to do a chargeback and got refunded. Ever since, I get genuinely angry when I see their ads because I just imagine other people going through that, possibly people that are in even worse shape than I was. Profiteering off of people's suffering like that is inexcusable. The owners should be thrown in prison for life.
@UnimportantAcc
@UnimportantAcc Ай бұрын
"Have you thought about THERAPY?" "Consider THERAPY" "You NEED THERAPY"
@XanianaAdlib
@XanianaAdlib Ай бұрын
Thank you for covering this, it's so dystionpianly predatory
@metallboy25
@metallboy25 Ай бұрын
"dystionpianly" 😂
@lazer8776
@lazer8776 Ай бұрын
Wtf
@tylerlogan4747
@tylerlogan4747 Ай бұрын
To be fair most of us live in that dystopian future everyone was afraid of in the 1930s-1960s sci-fi
@fbidumbbee
@fbidumbbee Ай бұрын
some of you need to be banned from using the word dystopia/dystopian
@XanianaAdlib
@XanianaAdlib Ай бұрын
@@fbidumbbee no
@21Malkavian
@21Malkavian Ай бұрын
If I wanted therapy, I would talk to my *licensed* therapist instead of these online scammers that just want your money. Way to go, BetterHelp. You're a blatant mockery of the mental health profession and you only have yourselves to blame. Stay safe, Echelon. This video hit close to home for me.
@Void-ey4jg
@Void-ey4jg Ай бұрын
What absolutely kills me is seeing 'mental health' channels with sponsorships from Betterhelp. Like I've enjoyed a number of Cinema Therapy's videos, but to know that they're taking sponsorships from Betterhelp is.. :/
@londonhughes5986
@londonhughes5986 Ай бұрын
As a licensed therapist myself and a previous fan of CT, their explanation for dropping Better Help due to scandals and then accepting sponsorships again was abysmal. There is great harm to be done when you’re speaking about being an expert in the field and recommending a company that provably violates ethical practices.
@NiarahHawthorne
@NiarahHawthorne 16 күн бұрын
This is why I do not watch Cinema Therapy. I already had a hard time actually taking what they said to heart since it felt like they were helping with commodifying mental health, and that just killed what little trust I might have had with them.
@KurvyKirby
@KurvyKirby 7 күн бұрын
I have heard multiple accounts where their betterhelp "therapists" ghosted them, and after that I just knew it wasn't a good service
@SoakintheSchadenfreude
@SoakintheSchadenfreude Ай бұрын
Next, figure out where at the butt bots are coming from.
@suprcrzy
@suprcrzy Ай бұрын
Butt bots 😂
@inventiveowl395
@inventiveowl395 Ай бұрын
Mammarie droids
@domena1007
@domena1007 Ай бұрын
Ass automatons
@WobblesandBean
@WobblesandBean Ай бұрын
The arse automatons
@elliesteele2027
@elliesteele2027 Ай бұрын
Rectum robots
@aazendude
@aazendude Ай бұрын
Glad to hear its not just me getting bombarded with these ads.
@metallboy25
@metallboy25 Ай бұрын
Thats why avoiding ads entirely, is essential.
@justinwilliams9377
@justinwilliams9377 Ай бұрын
I don’t usually comment and this will probably get buried but thank you for making the content you do - whatever you’re doing, keep doing it. One of the level headed and sane voices of reason I look forward to seeing pop up in my feed. Very refreshing.
@aviancoleslaw
@aviancoleslaw Ай бұрын
They're specifically targeting vulnerable persons. People who need therapy don't need this crap in their lives. Hopefully anyone preyed upon by BetterHelp can talk it through with a _real_ therapist.
@exotericidymnic3530
@exotericidymnic3530 Ай бұрын
12:27 Betterhelp candidly admits they care more about your privacy than your mental health. And no, they don't care about your privacy either.
@aronoc3599
@aronoc3599 Ай бұрын
Dark patterns on its site, Google-level copouts in its TOS, leaking PHI, and aggressively pursuing subscription based profits. It's not the first company following that route, but it's definitely one of the ugliest.
@T0asterbathb0mb668
@T0asterbathb0mb668 Ай бұрын
It’s so hard for someone who is immensely struggling to reach out for help and when that help is bad it’s detrimental this is also why it’s terrible for influencers to be a “safe place” for fans
@jannikheidemann3805
@jannikheidemann3805 Ай бұрын
There are no safe spaces on the internet. Only illusions that make people drop thier guard.
@ABQSentinel
@ABQSentinel Ай бұрын
After I lost my wife to cancer, I considered seeing therapy through this organization. I'm SO glad I decided not to.
@NFSBeast2365
@NFSBeast2365 Ай бұрын
I’m so sorry for your loss 😢
@SLACKWEED
@SLACKWEED Ай бұрын
I’m sorry friend, sending good vibes. Don’t let this discourage you from still seeking help. ❤
@suprcrzy
@suprcrzy Ай бұрын
🙏
@jackielinde7568
@jackielinde7568 Ай бұрын
Sorry to hear about your wife. Hopefully, you are getting some help and are part of a survivor's support group. And you did dodge a bullet with not using BetterHelp.
@ABQSentinel
@ABQSentinel Ай бұрын
Thank you all for your support and well wishes. I lost my wife in October of 2022, so 2023 was a very difficult year. I'm doing a lot better now and have even started dating again--I'm seeing a widow who lost her husband not long after I lost my wife. Interestingly enough, we found each other even though neither of us were looking or had any intention of dating again. So, yeah, 2024 is a much better year, by far.
@bryanturnbow8189
@bryanturnbow8189 Ай бұрын
BetterHelp: “Get real therapy, online.” Satan: “Let me just say, I’m a huge fan.”
@PoeticProse7
@PoeticProse7 Ай бұрын
Also, the wording bothers me and that seems to be deliberate. People who cancel see 'Quit Therapy' which subconsciously can generate a lot of guilt and shame. Unsubscribing doesn't mean quitting therapy any more than deleting your FB account means you're quitting the internet. There are other forms of beneficial therapy, but that red button implies a person is just giving up. Shame on them.
@BlitzAttacker
@BlitzAttacker Ай бұрын
Thankyou! I keep having to keep this trashfire of a "therapy" service from everyone i know. Now I've got an easy way.
@LisaMarie042
@LisaMarie042 Ай бұрын
The one YTer who has them as a sponsor now, which really bothers me, is Mr Ballen w his 8.87M subs. Anyone who is familiar w Mr Ballen knows he's a Navy SEAL, and when he does his ad read for BH he talks about when he became a civilian again, the difficult transition, and also the PTSD he had from being in active combat. He gives the impression he has used BH for his therapy, which I'm 99% sure isn't the case. I think he's talking about his own struggles and how he needed therapy to work things out as a testimonial to therapy in general. I really wish someone could make him aware of this scam as he's one of my fav creators.
@tabularasa4841
@tabularasa4841 Ай бұрын
Navy Seal or not, running around with a name like "Mr. Ballen" should be indication enough of what that dude is all about. And the Veteran community has no lack of shitbags...just like any other collection of people.
@ManiacRacing
@ManiacRacing Ай бұрын
Bro. He DOESN'T CARE or he would have never accepted the money. It's nothing but naked greed. And that's why I unsubbed his greedy ass as well. He knows EXACTLY what kind of company they are.
@Handle947
@Handle947 Ай бұрын
He IS aware. He just doesn’t care.
@calumlittle9828
@calumlittle9828 Ай бұрын
Yup, these replies are correct. Plus, ever known any sf guy that wasn't a psychopath? I haven't.
@WobblesandBean
@WobblesandBean Ай бұрын
​@@calumlittle9828 sf guy?
@PXAbstraction
@PXAbstraction Ай бұрын
I've begun unsubscribing from any KZfaq channels that still shill this scam of a company. I don't care how long I've been watching them or how popular they are. No channels can claim ignorance of what kind of company they are anymore. If they continue to promote this, they don't respect their audiences. Period.
@NiarahHawthorne
@NiarahHawthorne 16 күн бұрын
Good Mythical Morning has started doing this, and that one hurts.
@PXAbstraction
@PXAbstraction 16 күн бұрын
@@NiarahHawthorne I've already unsubscribed from Johnny Harris and Kyle Hill and will probably be unsubbing from Aging Wheels soon because of it. They not only still shill them, but fervently try to defend them in their comments. Economics Explained was shilling them too, but I think he dropped them. I hope so.
@lala-roseduckiw5178
@lala-roseduckiw5178 Ай бұрын
My sister was experience psychosis and reached out to better help, thinking she was reaching out for support... can just say it did not end well smh so gross that they're parading around as mental health specialists
@yagsipcc287
@yagsipcc287 Ай бұрын
I have been getting these adds for nearly 2 years now maybe little over a year and a half.
@MelancholySky
@MelancholySky Ай бұрын
I almost signed up for their service before seeing the prices, left their service before i'd even finished signing up & grateful to have done so.
@MemoryMori
@MemoryMori Ай бұрын
The worst thing? They get a "fine" in milions, but profit in bilions -.-""" Yeah....this is "Meryka justice"....
@KingSnickSnack
@KingSnickSnack Ай бұрын
Better Help is now also running adds on Spotify, At least here in Sweden
@Mac_Omegaly
@Mac_Omegaly Ай бұрын
So it's basically boils down to this every advertisement is a scam. Follow that rule and you'll be fine.
@saltyBANDIT
@saltyBANDIT Ай бұрын
Thank you Better raid, shadow help legends for sponsoring this video.
@Ginkiba81
@Ginkiba81 Ай бұрын
🤣
@MagisterialVoyager
@MagisterialVoyager 7 күн бұрын
I was almost falling for BetterHelp's trap when I was really vulnerable. These people are disgusting and need to face the consequences of their actions.
@tshepi92
@tshepi92 Ай бұрын
@UpperEchelon please continue and keep up the great work and research that you do. Excuse those negative comments and dont get me started on the bot comments . I love your videos. Shout out from South Africa 🇿🇦
@mashoodfarooqi3565
@mashoodfarooqi3565 Ай бұрын
You should call out the KZfaqrs still advertising their services
@DanielFrost79
@DanielFrost79 Ай бұрын
I've heard bad things but this is just sickening. Taking advantage of needing people like this wouldn't, shouldn't and couldn't go unnoticed for too long. Just sickening!
@creatureoflegend2635
@creatureoflegend2635 10 күн бұрын
Thanks for making this video. I was actually considering Better Help again, after being unhappy with Talkspace.
@wanwan2180
@wanwan2180 Ай бұрын
this is the most comprehensive betterhelp video i've seen out there, detailed but to the point and a not too long, perfect to send to other people who don't know about it. thank you for doing this!
@melvincholy2923
@melvincholy2923 Ай бұрын
they also have ads on Spotify now. First Spotify locks lyrics behind premium and now they're letting a scam run ads on their platform 😭😭
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