On the one hand, House would think the game is beneath him On the other hand, he is a sucker for pre-war nostalgia

I’ve never really thought much about it before but it must be miserable to go from a living breathing human being before the war, to losing your body and becoming nothing more than a brain floating in a jar for hundreds of years in a world completely torn apart and ruined by nukes.

My guess is that Mobius was the main one part of the Great game in the think tank

The Mysterious Stranger is not likely a player in the Great Game. That is- if he WAS a time traveler. If he was a player with the ability to time travel, he would have went back and killed all other players before the game would have even started.

"The Great Game" is a euphemism for espionage and covert operations to further the goals of Nations and, sometimes, singular people. But it's mostly espionage, sometimes for the sake of espionage. Desmond is a fromer agent of some nation and he is hunting down the last couple of adversaries of his time as one before the war, probably to settle old scores. I don't know if you knew that, but if you did, you should have mentioned what the great game is.

Probably easily one of my favorite ghoul characters. He just give no slags about it.

I love how the TV show has this exact thing as _the main plot._

On the contrary, I think Desmond was a jet addict and was talking bollocks.

I love this mod it makes point lookout fresh but still has its classic charm

I strongly feel that the show using the words "The great game" during the corporate cabal meeting with a shadowy figure looking down(representative of the enclave imo) was meant to be a direct reference to this.

Considering this and the video EpicNate released, I believe the great game is far larger than even Desmond knows. Shadow governments, aliens, eldritch entities, strangers, and some lucky or unlucky nobodies; who knows how big the great game really is? It may also be a clever way for the devs to pat them selves on the back for the back story they have written.

I made a theory ages ago that house was part of the great game, I'm glad someone else not only sees the same thing as I but also expands upon it and shines light on things I never thought about.

Definitely think House could've been a member of the Great Game. It makes too much sense for a man of his caliber, but I'm not terribly sure about Bradburton. If he truly were a member of the Great Game, he wouldn't have been sidelined by the Walt Disney treatment(I had to make the reference, lol). He would've had plans in place, a wider network or some way to control things. That being said, I feel like the Great Game would've had maybe only one person from each nation. Perhaps some sort of Illuminati or Freemason-adjacent shadow organization? Calvert was the American member, Lockhart was the British/U.K. member. Braun could be another one, being the German member, but I don't think he would fit. He's content to play god in his simulation, he has no ulterior motives for the world at large. He doesn't even seem to care about the Vault Experiments themselves, and he's "supposedly" a large driving force behind a lot of them.(I could be confusing actual lore with lore-friendly mods here). Of course, if my hypothesis is true, that leaves us to question how many "nations" took part in this Game, but it's a possibility, even if it's a small one.

House is absolutely the kind of guy who would high-mindedly claim to be above such trivialities, but would absolutely turn all of his power towards it if he found another viable player. Its basically what he does in the Mojave already, he just does it with people and groups that haven't been around as long as him.

Do you think Desmond agreed to test the intentional ghoulification process on Eddie Winter just so he would know it wouldn't kill him?

I like the idea IF Mr. House is participant in Desmonds entante game then Mr. House views this as "a simple side quest I can do once Mojave is free from NCR and Legion" If Mr. House ending ends up being canon, would be cool to be his employee and help him finish this lil game

Im interested how Mr house will play a role in season 2 of the show

This is a great video man I love when you discuss lore

Cabot, think tank, and house. If the story permits maybe someone in the divide if anyone survived. Also he is British. So maybe someone from the other countries as well. Also do program on civil war. NCR vs the east coast bos. Might be a good video.

I loved that the fallout tv show addressed the great game and what it was but am sad that not many are talking about it. I loved that the great game was as many predicted the great game of survival saying that "you can be the richest person in the world when all other rich people are dead"

I used the “game” as inspiration for a homebrew campaign in NYC. Decided one guy tried FEV to become immortal and now rules the whole enchilada. Never could decide on a good name though.

Whoever voiced Desmond, is giving me Saint Jiub vibe.

I'd love to see Desmond in Fallout Lοndon

God i miss Big MT. "No! Outside is death! Despite mounting evidence to the contrary!"

When he said limey i intently hated him

House may not personally seek to abuse others, his ideology is nonetheless abusive through its callous negligence.

So whos here after finishing the show

Fantastic video man, you really brought some new information that I think most people haven’t heard or paid attention too

It seems the Fallout Show has finally somewhat awnsered this

21:28 I’ve got 100% on fallout 3 and didn’t know you could see the geck in game

Oh man, I hope that Desmond is at least referenced in Fallout London.

I love the various ways the contestants of the great game learned how to extend their lifespan. Desmond became a Ghoul, House preserves his whole body, The Think Tank and Prof. Calvert preserve their brains.

Great job and great cinematics. More vids like this please.

I would like to see more of this part of the lore expanded.

"his business is beyond my understanding" >I have 11 INT I doubt that *I shoot Desmond in the face for withholding information*

Now I'm imagining all these pre-war movers and shakers meeting at a gala or something a few months before the War. Bradberton and House were just about to get put into their coccoons, Desmond was toying with radiation treatments, and everyone else was thinking about the best way to put their brain in a jar.

Love it, only through is that Mr. House is still part of the great game. The great game is basically about politics and statecraft, and he runs the whole strip which is really influential.

Am I about to replay fallout 3 again just because I don't remember this cool mission from over a decade ago

The great game is played by "powerful" people the elites just like irl and consider a "conspiracy theory" that the factions, gangs, groups & cults in various Companies & Governments are also playing such a game and the game is who gets the world.

Bethesda had so much potential to use this concept to flesh out pre war america but of course they didn't lol

The detail work on that 10 mm you're using is great

I bet Eddie Winter would have played the Game had he not been taken off the board.

@thenthapple talked about the great game years ago and this is the only other video I've seen about it since

I wonder if the folks of Fallout london will make a nod to old ghoul agent

What did you know

Great video and it’s kinda neat to have these types of fan theories and thought experiments. I think Bradberton being a part of the great game actually makes some sense. I’d be inline with his character and Desmond does say he needs to “head north” when you last speak to him so I can definitely see that. House tho I really don’t see, he says it himself that he doesn’t care what other people do and just wants to advance the world for what he sees as the better. And while I don’t think everyone out there both in game/lore or even fan wise agree with House’s goals, he doesn’t strike me as someone who would care about something like the Great Game.

I'm not sure if the Fallout show is canon, but a certain scene in that show may refer to the Great Game

I wonder if The Great Game might be some international political shenanigans continued. Our rude Ghoul is a military intelligence agent; the refers to The Great Game as a "microcosm" which is a smaller version of a larger thing (school is a microcosm of society, for example). Perhaps there are a few international movers-and-shakers connected to the intelligence world still trying to bump each other off. Perhaps when he says he's going North, he's going to find his ghoulified opp in Canada? I don't think it's the sort of thing House would get involved in, he is in a totally different gamespace

Maybe the great game was pre war espionage, and this is the last of those involved settling who’s gonna live

Welp tv shows out and it seems like this vids due an update. We just got a name and face to a bunch of the players

What makes a gifted killer like you into a hardened badass like me?! Radiation?

Nice work!

The Mysterious stranger is, obviously, the god emperor of mankind (to be).

The Cabot Family definitely were players especially Lorenzo and Jack.

Despite having played F3 100% throu more times than I can remember, I can't recall at all the fact that Calber was able to speak to us via his mind.

Damn , this guy making a run at ox.... well done sir. Pretty rare i see somebody put out fallout lore content on par with ox...i might prefer this presentation better actually.

I guess the real question I really want to ask is, what does our secret agent Ghoul even want out of this Great Game? Is he just tying off loose ends because they’re all he has left? Or does he believe the people he kills off are potential, existential threats to Humanity in the long run?

I think Daniel Littlehorn the guy you meet by taking the Contract Killer perk has a hand in the great game as well, his dialogue when you inquire about why he wants random peoples ears implies as much.

A bit of a pickle, hm? I see what you did there ;) - Well done!

What about Tenpenny? I know it does not really fit him, but u think, especially with three easy he treats the people below his tower, he feels like a player.

maybe you get luck from cannibalizing mr house w/ meat of champions because, oh, I dunno, he owns VEGAS??? And all its casinos?That’s like Vegas’ whole thing. I don’t think it has anything to do with house himself being lucky

I'd love to see more videos of this nature.

Lol as someone from Maryland id like to clear up a common misconception with its pronunciation. Its Mare-lend, ive heared people from the US call it Mary-land so you're not alone 😂

The Mysterious Stranger, i think he's just a guy trying to lookout for people. Maybe even some kind of role passed on to different people throughout the post-war wasteland? They potentially stick around the Lone Wanderer/Courier etc as they recognise them as someone very important, a mover/shaker who's changing things up? Also amusingly his influence extends past Fallout into other games where similar characters exist, like Middle-Earth: Shadow of War with Forthog Orc-Slayer showing up to save Talion, always mysteriously showing up to help. Just like the stranger.

It almost sounds like this game is a reference to the movie highlander which is about a subrace of humans that the only way they can die is if their head is cut off and they slowly find and fight each other throughout history to win a game that grants the last survivor omniscience

The “y” is silent in pronouncing “Maryland.” So it’s like, “MARE-lynn’D”

Just to add on. In the new 76 update there’s a unfinished thank you note on the overseer’s wife’s terminal in vault 63 to prof. Calvert and mentions a discussion presumably the three of them had over dinner at some event and it also mentions Desmond and the fact the Calvert tampered with his invite to the event or long those lines. Seems like Bethesda could be playing with the idea of further releasing lore around the great game

the mysterious stranger could be a time traveller or a secret organization like they teleport around just like how the institute would and since there is a mysterious magnum in new vegas so might be not prewar

It seems to me that if Robert House was a player in the Great Game, then at some point he said: “Not bad, I guess I’ll pass.”. And left his seat at the table to play his game on the sidelines. Or perhaps (given his character it is more than possible) - he always played a game of his own, not wanting to be part in the delusional projects of the Enclave and Vault-Tec (and others).

Point lookout is one of my alltime favorite Fallout storylines

I am Glad we got wonderful modders that grace us with revamed if our favorite DLCs from past games

He was going North after one of his rivals. Maybe there were ideas of making one of the Institute a player of the Great Game that were cut or something? Or maybe he was going after Bradberton before learning that his foe wasn't in the game anymore.

First off, great video! I'm deffinatly going to try this mod when I get Fallout 4 on pc. Second, whenever I play FO3 and the DLC they both lose. I side with Desmond to defeat Calvert then stab Desmond in the back. Neither character would be good for the wasteland and they proove it in their actions. From the jump Desmond proves it by tricking you into killing people that are only agressive because two others have caused them to be that way. Once learning what is going on, Desmond doesn't care and is fine with them just being colateral damage. Calvert proves it by being one of the aformentiond two that uses that tribe for his own ends. Calvert could have befriened the tribe by helping them and then giving those that wanted to join his war the oprotunity to do so.

I’m think that the mysterious stranger is an organization of people that operate across the US that have gained magical powers (Similar to Oswald the Outrageous from Nuka World) and have people that like Mama Murphy, have “the sight” that is used to identify key figures that will affect the course of the wastes that the Mysterious Strangers will protect.

There should have been an option to turn the Nuka-Cola guy into a synth now that I think about it

I just finished watching The fallout show and I think there's a reference to the great game in there

I believe there is one person you might’ve forgotten that is not on the list the name to add to your list of people who might’ve been a participant in the great game I believe a good candidate was Frederick Sinclair He had lots of political and financial power as well as many things I believe he would personally fit in perfectly.

God i love these vids they help me sleep

I think that the Mysterious Stranger has his explanation in Fallout 76...specifically through the Order of Mysteries. Although the agents of their group were all women, we see a similarity in the weapons, tactics, and even the name given to the Mysterious Stranger. I would be willing to bet that the Mysterious Stranger is actually a group, and that they either come from survivors of the betrayal of the Order - possibly even Frederick Rivers, the sole male member - or someone who found the Order's headquarters later, as the player does, and copied their tech and training.

A quote for on the mysterious stranger in Fallout 1 “I don’t talk much”

Is the proffesor's voice the same one as the one that does the Darlek one??

Why do I not remember annnnnny of this? But seems Mobius.

We wouldn't be so lucky to have a good central plot for Fallout 5. No, Bethesda will have to remind us again how much they really want to make another Terminator game with the base game and leave all the good bits for DLCs...

Mr House is my favourite character in fallout, definitely the best faction to side with!

This video just shows how awesome the voice acting is in the game

House is a player for sure. The whole new vegas game was all about introducing him. Imo , the most likey canon is house winning, just due to the fact the courier is not a vault dweller and is a product of the wasteland psychologically and physically and would be far more prone to side with House and the luxury that come with. I feel the fallout show will also head this direction to a Mr house operated Vegas not only for spectacle but easy plot opportunities.

thinking about it now, while i think the great game is all about multiple rich people of status fighting for being *The* one with power, i think it might just be private rivalry between desmond and his significant enemies, instead of a literal grand challenge between tons of important people that stayed alive for hundreds of years, and it would make a bit more sense that way imo, if its more private it would explain why its only mentioned by a single character and not a plotpoint for atleast some important greatwar survivors we see

Surprised you didn't do this in Fallout 3

robert house is a gamer

what pistol mod are you using? that thing looks awesome

I think Desmound would very much get a lot of information from the think tank, since he could remind them quite strongly about the past, they would tell him everything he need know about lunch codes and other possible players, and I think the goal of the great game is simply to eliminate and neutralise other attendees as the world to them is serve on a silver plate. also I can imagine house would be the toughest opponent Desmound would face, house has pretty much succeeded on his own goals, and it very likely house would either give desmound what he wants, or offer the ghoul the opportunity to work with him in the shaping of the world

In the end there can be only one

So... House had the same endgame as vault tec? I believe the experiments in the vaults were (at the beginning) executed to test different extreme situations in an enclosed space (spaceship/spacestation) because they believed the great war is inevetable. The show kinda retconed this unfortunatly... always gave the Zetans a bigger role in the shadows... hope they kinda hint on that and dont retcon it copletly

the strangers are a group and they come to the aid of those who will one day join them.

Is it just me or does the "You will suffer. You will all suffer." Line sound like it's a reference to Jon in BG2?

I never ever knew about Meat of champions holy shit

"Shu-coudn't." My new favorite word.

Perhaps I missed you talking about this, but I believe M.O.D.U.S. could and would be one of the largest players in the Great Game. I believe he mentions a sort of "Game" that they and the Enclave were involved in, and similar to everybody else- got turned into Robobrains or brains in jars that control a facility.

Loved the video, would absolutely love to see Desmond return. But as for Robert House, he just has no interest in such a petty matter. Its beneath him and his lofty goals.

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