Yes, thank you so much!

Roger doing my best.

what happened to cap? how'd you get to know?

@@sidv4615 Well, a while back he had to deal with therapy for cancer (testicular, I believe, or something in that area). He seemed to have recovered, but has off-n-on illnesses (likely related) that he reports in comments during videos, and most recently, he posted a video about having something going on in neck/throat area. If you look back through the videos, it should only be about 7 or so back where he made an announcement about the latest.

What a silly video wrf 😂😂😂

And they'd only need to fire a third of what they did to take them out so what, around 90 million to their 1 billion, entire squadron lost and beating a hasty retreat. Win win.

This is what pacifists often don't get. If it is not money during time of peace then it will be blood during times of war that is the cost. Defence budget works like insurance.

Yeah, but it's not recommended to go full load if you want to go places. Or even take off. Good news is that SM-6 doesn't weigh that much without booster. Maybe less than 800 kg, which is equal to 5 AMRAAMs

Per attention 1500 kg weight includes rocket booster. Without booster SM-6 or SM-2 Block IIIC weighs around 750 kg no more.

The super hornet also has a max weapon loadout of 17,750 lbs. which means, if they can carry 4 without being close to max.

SM-6 weighs half that much

Seriously stealth missile truck go brrrrrrr with a rotary launcher

This would be fun, hope your doing well Cap.

Figure if the B-21's payload ends up around 40,000lbs, that means about 12 SM-6 missiles... So a flight of 5 Raiders could launch the same # of missiles and hit a mix of air and ground targets... absolutely insane.

I used to use B-2 with Phoenix in Jane's ATF back in the day. It allowed such things. Quite effective.

That sounds like a terrifying nightmare to have as a Chinese pilot Oh wait. It isn't a nightmare. The air launched SM-6 is REAL 😂

OK

@@grimreapers 👍

Tomcats fighting Super Hornets? Noooo! No blue on blue battles.

Yarp.

@@patrickwoxen3894 What do you mean? Both are 4th gen

Roger, that will be a good fight actually.

@@totalNERD-eo7wx seems like my brain was in the toilet when i wrote that comment lmao

@@patrickwoxen3894 fair

Yes, when they did the AWACS snipe video

Air Launched SM-6 vs AWACS: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rKd_pM-Y3bKwY58.html Air Launched SM-6 vs Moscow: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rZxlnMqYtbqrh5s.html PL-17 vs AWACS: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mdpjYLqVy5qYfI0.html

Agreed

That only matters if the Americans can get theirs carriers close enough to launch there fixed wing aviation.

these can't be carried internally on stealth aircraft and are so heavy you'll be lucky to carry 2 per plane and still have enough room for fuel tanks which you'd still need for your fighters to be at all useful.

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e9CTosJ4y7bTnI0.html

The aim 260s coming out, actually should be reaching the fleet soon if not already. And the F-14 Tomcat is an old analog fighter that has seen its Day come and go

now comes the production problem. Pac3s are being drained at a conspicuous rate in ukraine and are already running dangerously low on stock. They're only produced in the hundreds per year and get used up in the dozens every time Russia does a missile salvo.

lol yes.

The way we have everything set up, it would be about even.

@@grimreapers Cool, keep up the great work!

Yeah do you have a server that can support that many units😂😂 I think if you watch enough videos from Junior you'll realize that server capabilities tend to limit how big they can make their recreations.

At that point china converts its DF series missiles with radar seekers and produces the world's first intermediate range anti-aircraft ballistic missile. Or programs its WZ8 hypersonic drones to into an air to air kamikazi.

Agreed.

That's what Raytheon's LREW and Boeing's LRAAM are for. SM-6 may just be an interim solution before those go operational.

​@@johnsilver9338yep you nailed it

Mods: kzfaq.info/sun/PL3kOAM2N1YJcbzwU5FCo0DRmCdF3owO1o (download links in the relevant video)

Yup, I guess I could do that, but TBH I wasn't really wanting a fair fight.

I've always just divided the number by 700 to keep it simple. But I do see your point.

Google tells me that a J-15 is 61 million a copy. The loss of 16 J15s is then 976 million at the cost of 279 million in missiles and no loss of any F-18s, and in a real situation they would not fire all of the missiles like the AI did. Also given the added fact that the J-15s are probably not replaceable in less than 6 months (highly optimistic), the SM-6's seem very cost effective.

That's what Raytheon's LREW and Boeing's LRAAM are for. SM-6 may just be an interim solution before those go operational.

@@johnsilver9338 There is an old saying: "One operationally certified missile that actually works is worth two in development." :)

@@wolfgangamadeus1246 china operates an extensive fleet of drone fighters based off ancient J6s If they're mixed in with J15s and used as a meat shield that could easily balance out the equation.

No because the aircraft mod just treats the sm-6 as a standard air-to-air missile. The programming from the ships firing sm-6 missiles is completely different than what the aircraft mods use

No, S300 is Way too big for anything that isn't a bomber

S-300 missiles are much too big to be carried by a fighter, not to mention the compatibility issues. The prevailing theory is that they used an S-200 or Patriot for the first AWACs shootdown, and that the second was friendly fire from a local Russian battery.

Those missiles are the size of telephone poles but I like your thinking

@@Likeaworm S-300? Bigger than that.

Maybe, I'm not sure TBH.

maybe the seekers and control surfaces aren't designed to handle hypersonic speeds. Missile might literally start melting

can't detect the targets? in real life you'd never want your AWACs to be on the first line of defense.

I'd use the RIM-161... go big or go home 🤷‍♂😂

Yarp.

ooo nice.

Yeah the cost of the missiles are way cheaper than the cost of the aircraft taken out. Not silly at all in fact it's very cost-effective, especially if they really do have it in service as a stopgap measure until some of the new Raytheon missiles reach the fleet

The sm-6 is very much in service and in use and as he said at the beginning of the video they've already spotted f-18s carrying them so yeah I would say if they're not in use they're pretty close to being able to do it if not already

Agreed.

TBH I just made the rough calculation of 210 miles in my head and asked Dark to make that. We could probably get 250 miles, but not sure until we try it.

That's what Raytheon's LREW and Boeing's LRAAM are for. SM-6 may just be an interim solution before those go operational.

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mdpjYLqVy5qYfI0.html

@@grimreapers was thinking SM-6 VS PL-17;)

Because it's DCS and the core programming for the AI Fighters kind of does what it wants to do. You got to remember gr is making DCS to do things that it's not really intended to do LOL😂

Yeah they actually did look at that back in the late eighties and again in the 90s before they completely decommissioned the Iowa class. I think if you go to the New Jersey Battleship KZfaq page, they may have done a video about it? Or maybe it was Dranchfil(sp?) Who did a video on it also. But the short of it was, it was not feasible without massive reconstruction of those ships, and it would have been far cheaper to literally try to build a new battleship instead. Which obviously would be a waste of money because you can build enough frigates and Burke class destroyers to more than makeup for the amount of missiles they could get on an Iowa, and do it cheaper. Part of the problems are, those barrettes that the turrets sedan or too small to put an adequate amount of VLS tubes in, without completely ripping them out which then gets into issues of structural weakness. And they did look at it in multiple configurations. Doing it only with turret number 3 or all three of the turrets and maybe one other configuration.. Also you couldn't do anything with the 5 inch mounts or the place where the 5-inch mounts were located. I believe they had already removed part of them during the refit to make room for other equipment including the Box launchers. Also those turrets set on a very small barbet, that would be functionally useless without tearing them completely out. And one of the Least Complicated part is you would literally have to rip up most of the decking on the battleship because they had teak, wooden, coverings on their steel decks Again it's a very cool idea and I know a lot of people are absolutely fascinated and would love if we still had Iowa-class battleships in the inventory. But their day has long passed, there's no Financial feasible way to get any use out of them at this point in time. I mean seriously you literally have to gut the ship down to the hull, and again it would be cheaper just to build a new one. Which would still be way too expensive

Mirage 2000D vs Russian SAMs: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b5OAlsyQ3L3Xdn0.html

DCS doesn't work like that.

It's just difficult to get them to turn quickly. They kinda do it when they want to.

Oh I'm sure it's quite capable of being used right now. But again it's just a stopgap measure Intel the new Raytheon come online within the next year or two

@@Wyomingchief You mean the 260? I wonder if they could use the SM-6 as a long range AWAC interceptor? Maybe the SM-6 has more range but who knows..

That is indeed how it works

True, but it's never that easy to do.

DCS core programming controls the AI aircraft and what the awacs is doing with the missiles. And they do what they want. Which is kind of a nice way of saying that cap is making the DCS programming for the AI do things that it's really not intended to do in the first place😂😂

@@Wyomingchief no i know that and completely agree, but it does bear saying in the conclusions and during the mission that china even getting a shot off would be an impossibility if dcs was operating realistically

Yeah don't get enamored with Russian propaganda along with the chinese. They really tend to over-promise and under deliver quite frequently😂😂 And yeah good luck getting any new advances out of Russia until they can figure out how to modernize their t-34s😂