john doe All the time man haha. The David Taylor comeback was the most stressful shit I’ve ever seen haha. Even when I watch it now I get nervous even though I know he wins haha.

@@ShabazzTBL big fan of both these guys, but Burroughs lost that match. there is no way that was exposure. Dake has been cheated in these matches so many times.

Michael Dunn Exposure is past 90 degrees. He was back on elbows or hands. That’s past 90 degrees. And not sure how anyone is arguing that it’s not exposure. Look at the situations where the wrestler gets cartwheeled. They will look at it and if there’s the slightest tilt they call it exposure so I don’t know how you can think that’s not.

Ali Al-atraqchi Cold-blooded and composed.

Mr. Colvin why u so mad

juiced up and barely won

I realize I'm late to the game, but PERFECTLY said sir. When you are a legitimate badass, you don't need to advertise

Fred Bouwman very true

I fuckin hate that they have to call passivity if nothing happens. Because there’s times when both people are working but neither scores and they just choose someone to call passivity on. It’s so annoying. That needs to be tweaked.

Well they blew the match with that sequence at the end of the match. Must have better performance by the refs, it's really the primary thing holding the sport back from gaining fans and establishing itself as a a legitimate alternative to boxing and MMA. For now, as long as these gaffs continue to happen, we will see wrestling pinned down to the amateur ranks...

Jon Bauer There was no mistake in the last sequence. Well I assume you’re talking about the second to last one. You can’t make a second move out of bounds to get a takedown. You can only continue the move you were already making. Watch the replay. He stops and Burroughs is way out of bounds then he lunges again to get to the other leg and hip. Not continuation. No takedown.

Jon Bauer It’s not like it was a split second decision they went back and reviewed it and took away what they thought was a takedown in real speed.

Burroughs is KING - Dake will always be a wannabe! Dake should pay Burroughs for wrestling lessons!

Score ?

The Kraft man making his way to this comment section! Awesome

James Lundeen He didn’t beat him at the one when Burroughs had to wrestle through.

@@ShabazzTBL I'm not surprised. I'm not saying Dake's better, but in this series it seemed he was on route to win until he ran out of gas thanks to having wrestled more previously.

James Lundeen I felt like Burroughs looked a little sluggish himself. This was coming off that poor Olympic performance. I think he was just getting back into form. As I recall Dake had never even made it to the third match with Burroughs. Between Dake and Taylor I think the first match was the only time either of them ever beat him. He usually goes balls to the wall for these two. All Dake had to do was be aggressive. He took about 5 shots between the 3 matches. You just can’t do that against Burroughs. Being up three points is a lead you hold against him. He’s going to score. Their history should have told him that. And the thing is that Burroughs had to earn his shot just the same and now Dake gets to defend his own spot with a bye. Although with Finals X you wrestle on a separate day so it eliminates that complaint. Anyway I think in these matches Burroughs was as beatable as he was going to get and Dake well I was gonna say took his foot off the gas but he never really had it on there in the first place.

Yes, but refs gave it to him

@@functionalvanconversion4284 I wish you people stop saying refs. Jb is better its proven

No idea how Dake ever beat Taylor. When you watch Taylor wrestle you can tell he doesn't engage with Dake at the same level he does everyone elae - weird... Taylor is the much better wrestler. Dake has ZERO chance of ever winning an Olympic gold medal. He wasted too many years trying to get past Burroughs.

Totally agree this automatic finals placement doesn't do our team any justice. I feel 74 and 86 were most affected by they way they ran it this year. A fresh Jordan and a Fresh cox vs David and Dake where they wrestled some tough matches

I disagree based on logic because Jordan Burroughs already beat him in the US Open finals where it was a different situation so mentioning the "challenge tournament" is irrelevant when Dake lost when there wasn't one (aka US Open).

The problem is that no one really thinks Burroughs beat him at the US Open. Dake outwrestled him (two pushouts to one) but the ref gifted the match to Burroughs. And that tainted result gave Burroughs the bye, which makes it more questionable. But what that match and the first match here showed is that on an equal or relatively equal footing, Dake easily holds his own. The bye killed all the credibility here.

iha asc yes Burroughs a Olympic gold medalists 3or4 time world champion and the only reason is because of refs and getting byes!!! smh

If he is so great then he should not have needed a bye. The reason he won this time was the bye. That's all.

Las CoL A ton of people showed up to watch Burroughs wrestle because Ben Askren had a match against him coming up. Probably only stayed interested enough to watch that match.

@@ShabazzTBL haha yeah I mean thats pretty obvious, I just think its funny 800,00 less people watched the rest of a best of 3 match

Las CoL Missed better matches haha.

Louie Marcello What about the open?

wolf jerk which call was wrong?

rusty goldfinch And burroughs somehow got 4 when 2 was confirmed on the single leg

wolf jerk Score should have been 6-3 right after the challenge should have went in dakes favor

rusty goldfinch his one point was definitely one point. You need confirmation from the table or side judge and that didn’t happen. Objectively, I saw it as one. With freestyle it could go either way but dake did not have control. Oh, and by the way, he DID get the two after the challenge. Burroughs getting the two and two is another situation that can go either way. It wasn’t the wrong call, just a freestyle call.

You mean from Jordan. Lol

maybe?

Freestyle

Huh? Where’s the chairs, tables, beer, people’s elbows, cockslams?

TheTerryE lol dake did the same thing and lost to J'den Cox so you can't call Taylor a chicken

What are you talking about?

Of course, Taylor is a chicken. Is he in Burroughs weight class? No, he's a chicken. Has Taylor ever beaten Dake or Burroughs? No. He's a pussy.

TheTerryE you realize Taylor is over 200lbs now and lean? He stopped making 74kg cause it was bad for his body and cardio

@@TheTerryE i wonder what you have to say ab DT now that he is the world champion. Imo DT was the best pound for pound wrestler in the world for 2018. You could make a case for Sadulaev, but for me the magic man takes that title for 2018.

Michael I don’t understand how anyone is saying that wasn’t exposure. Dake was back on his elbows. Unless he has some extremely long upper arms I think that exposure. Hell I’ve seen it called while I guy was up on his hands.

its gotta be the whole foot. If part of your foot steps out it doesn't count

2 for the takedown and 2 for the back exposure

Flo was just late to add the points in on the scoreboard but on the takedown Burroughs got right before he got a takedown and exposure

@@bouncybear4111 I still watching it over and over don't see that at all.

SoHo Yeah I hate that they have to call someone if there’s no scoring because both guys can be attacking and they seem to just choose someone.

I think it was a 2 pt takedown and then a 2 pt turn, or it was a 4pt (feet to back) takedown

And i dont think kd had control/secured the TD, what counts as control?

Has a leg and opponent on the mat 2 points Dak. Burroughs Did Not turn out of that td!!

isn't only a takedown causing opponent directly from on feet to on his back scored 4 points? this one is like from on feet to lateral side of body rather and would be a two-point takedown.

It was scored as a two point takedown followed by two point exposure. The takedown happens when Dake is on his butt with Burroughs having control of the hips. The exposure follows shortly after that, when Burroughs drives him backwards past a 90 degree and exposes the back.

They belatedly added the 2 for exposing the back at 7:05

ckrdnasm what’s that ?

Well you should watch more matches of them both. Dake usually doesn’t do much at all. He’s super defensive and it’s actually boring to watch him wrestle pretty much anyone except Burroughs or David Taylor. Burroughs usually puts up a lot more points. He’s actually teched Dake multiple times I believe. At least once. A tech is when you get some many points more than the other people that they just stop the match. 10 point is the cut off.

Default Name Maybe. I’ll have to look up the rules but i would think so. Although in some circumstances the whole foot or both have to be out. May be this is one of them.

Default Name his head hit the ground

I think it needs to be 2 feet OOB for it to be pushout, or 1 head

Nah

SHUBhaM DWiVEdi if he deserved to win he woulda won bud

Kickstart 82 What did he do that was dirty? And what help did he get?

@@ShabazzTBL Yeah, what did Jordan "hands on the face" burroughs did wrong

Nicholas Jarnot nah. He left the weight class because he’s never gotten past Burroughs. Same with David Taylor.

2 points takedown, 2 points back exposure.

that's retarded, in folkstyle it would only be considered 2, but hey jordan burroughs needs all the help he can get, official always sucking up to this dirty asshole, glad the russians spanked him.

john wall you know this is freestyle right?

yes you fucking neckbeard, do you even wrestle?

john wall haha, awesome response. I wrestled in HS and coach now. Was just confused by your comment, why be upset about the rules if you know what they are?

bro challenge tournaments are such a joke dake would have won if he wasn't tired

Jesse Cain it was 2 for the takedown and 2 for the out of bounce

Lmao 🤦🏻‍♂️🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻

Reginald Samtrob It’s not intentional. You’re clubbing and someone pops their head up and it happens. Everyone has been poked and poked someone. It happens. If you’re someone who posts on the forehead a lot you’re going to do it more often.

Ianoodin Maybe that’s because you Dake fanboys are always making excuses.

Ianoodin Make up for what? What calls shouldn’t he have gotten? And you just admitted to basing your view off of his race so you’re really not a good source.

Ianoodin But what is there to make up for? It’s starting to look like your entire basis for judging this is his race.

Ianoodin But for you to think someone feels that way about an Olympic gold medalist and multiple world champion/medalist is ridiculous and reflects more of your personal beliefs. Aka you’re the one being bigoted.

Screamn’ Eagle He was on his elbows. How much closer do you want his back to the ground? Watch that part again.

ROOT S so

Its fucking wrestling dude shit happens

You realize he was moving his hand off his head after they had blew the whistle right? So that motion you’re pointing out has nothing to do with them stopping it haha.