I look forward to the CSB report on this contamination in the coming months.

I didn't even realize there was a first recent one!

Perhaps we should evacuate

Is it bad that i want more chemical disasters so they get more funding and make more videos lol

We need to create a process safety management program for handling multiple CSB videos released in a short timespan. edit: Also make sure the gas detectors are in working condition/weren't disabled by a supervisor because they kept going off

Dude driving by it looked unreal. Twisted metal is a sight to behold

Their animations are really excellent

This was your take

investigators are really into 3d scene scanning lately, have seen a lot of these in late NTSB reports so I bet it was done using these scanned sceneries

@@ShitHappensRLY much easier to do now we have these tasty little drones.

They probably 3d model industrial sites and do accident re-enactments as a side job.

dude. i am watching this from the netherlands. learning how to stay safe

Federal gov probably wasted million dollars making this video

@@J12345cats : Saving lives through education is something you can't agree with, I see.

@@J12345cats hur dur gubmint bad

I thought the same lol 😢

Go have a look at what the requirements for the label on those drums is from OSHA and what a MSDS (material safety data sheet) contains. (Edit:. This label is what makes the drums different from one another.) Ask ANY Chemistry Teacher what the FIRST day of Class is Always about. Possibly the first WEEK because not one soul may be left behind. If someone doesn't understand the dangers involved, the rest of the class has a duty to help them. If we move to a full-time work environment from the couple hours a day lab time a student might get, this process doesn't carry over because only certain personnel at the plant NEED to be Certified by OSHA to give Safety Classes, not for the classes to be effective. Verification of lessons learned is not required.

In other countries these things don't happen over and over again without regulations changing. In the US this stuff happens all the time and literally noting changes. Industry just gets recommendations and no agency can even act on it. Libertarian wet dream and employees are the ones paying the ultimate cost.

@@SpencerDonahue ...Dude, go look up what is included on those labels, required by OSHA, that makes them different than each other. The phrase "nearly identical," in this video, is misleading. Not only are there English words that detail what is inside, as well as the reactions they might have with other substances, but then they go on to include colors, numbers, AND Pictures to convey those same ideas. This happened because ignorant laborers didn't put things away when they were done with them. Noone needs reform to KNOW BETTER. I say "ignorant" because if they had any idea of the dangers of mixing chemicals, they wouldn't be slobs on the job. The company hired people who hadn't had ANY classes in Chemistry to do Chemistry and supervisors who failed to correct any concerns about that. Chicagoland has some of the strictest building codes anywhere, because of it's experience with livestock, winter heating, nuclear testing, and a cow. This company didn't follow local codes to provide a safe work environment. Why? It probably has more to do with the parent company being owned by a hedge fund and Accountants are squeezing every last dime out of Waukegan, and their gas detectors. Companies don't want educated employees, and this is the outcome.

I love these videos and dearly hope that they get made about less and less severe incidents over time because that's what's left to handle.

I live about 25 hours away and I heard it on KZfaq.

Were you around for the propane explosion down the street, a few years earlier?

You're miles away and it shook your house, yet a guy who was working there survived the explosion. Pretty lucky for him, I guess.

I live a few blocks away and it shook my building

@@jimmydesouza4375 4 people died

This. It’s actually been a very good way to explain and inform people. Wish this channel was a bit larger.

Oh whatever you just enjoy violent animations

@@aandyherr817 help spread awareness of this channel and improve safety and their popularity in one go :)

4 died at the accident. unsure if we should thank this.

:( I hope you had something to eat during the shortage

I mean, I doubt they thought it was harmless or safe. But recognising that its hazardous isn't the same as knowing what's wrong or how to fix it. The right answer in this case was 'run for your lives', but that's not always the proper thing to do.

A few behavioral safeguards could have helped to prevent this. 1. Product staging hygiene. This is done for inventory control as well as product identification and use. Unused product needs to be returned to the raw material warehouse area from where the product was sourced, and the quantity of remaining product documented. 2. Double verification of product. At the start of any production, the materials should be staged by one operator, and verified by another validated operator.

I don't think of this sort of hazard at all when it comes to silicones, they're generally very "friendly" chemicals with low toxicity and low flammability, prized for their stability and inertness. All the more reason these workers needed specific training to recognize it wasn't just a polymer goo cleanup they had to deal with.

If you don't think to run then its your time

Though great notice many times this process is shorthanded by companies looking to cut corners. So that secondary validation check by another worker might get the axe. A better process would be ensuring all chemicals are stored in separate color or shaped containers if not both. That way they can be quickly identified removing the chance of error and making the labeling of the container easier to read from a distance.

@@wildaceds I wonder how the CSB folk actually feel about having genuine Internet fanboys and fangirls? Still, I'm always going to be grateful to gain this knowledge. It's horrible we have to learn this way, but by God, I hope we DO learn. Even if it's some rando person that watches these vids and sees something similar about to happen and stops it.

actually that's not really true, some companies just refuse to add safety precautions even after disaster and laws are needed to either completely force them out of business or make them comply with regulations regardless of their willingness.

@@ChristopherGray00 ..wut? I didn't say anything about regulations, I said "learn." As in, the general public learns.

It also brings to my mind how I would like to know what chemicals I'm working with and which ones can create a dangerous situation (like mixing bleach and ammonia). It can make the difference between screwing up a batch, or poisoning yourself / blowing the place up.

Few things are better to get ideas across. You can be in a meeting and show a 15 minute video like this and people won't fall asleep. The shorter ones are even short enough to show during lunch in a HAZOP.

Also sad because two of them were going to escape but didn't make it in time, and three of the people who died were just trying to fix the problem or figure out what's going on

Swiss Cheese.

They probably left them on purpose since the next batch would probably need adjustment, too. They were trying to save work.

“You know these two highly reactive chemicals we have? Lets put them next to each other in identical containers” 🤦🏻‍♂️

“Yeah, but I’ll probably have sold my stock in the company by the time the accident occurs”

@@_zigzak company "we can save $5 a barrel if we just use the same color barrel for everything!"

@@kailoveskitties: "Am I, as a manager, going to spend a large amount of money to deal with some remote risk, that is very unlikely to generate an accident in my year or two on my watch here?" So many great quotes to take from Anatomy of a Disaster, someone should have made a compilation of them!

@@fetchstixRHD I have seen many once great companys going down the drain after the original founder retired or died and it got either to their children which have grown up rich (and are incompetent and/or lazy, so the likely hire someone, but still interfere) or some industry conglomerate who wants to milk their success until they are dried out dead. They all went out of business in a matter of years. Have it been for mismanagement and just running out of money, losing customers because the quality dropped significantly or accidents/other scandals.

There's cases where just forgetting to add a chemical can be dangerous. An old chemical book I found described a method for making potassium prussate. If you forget to add the iron filings, you will have some hot, solid crystalline cyanide where you don't expect it. Given this, I'm sure there's more than the two ways I know of to accidentally make a chlorine bomb out of a vat.

Working in a chemical plant is a terrible place for people who can’t listen to instructions. Hopefully they switched to a career track where one mistake can’t kill a roomful of people

@@oron61 Noting to myself not to get on your bad side. Nah jk lolz

fume hood ftw doing any reaction in a closed space openly filling the room with any type of gas should be a red flag

@@oron61 does it give off fumes on contact in air?

yay a new video! oh no, a new video

cringe

It's like attending a good history class. Sure, the Battle of Hastings was horrible, but that teacher is fun and does nice animations with good narration.

@@X786BBF I can't and won't deny it, but life's too short to try to be cool forever. (Kind of gets to be a farce once you've got gray hair coming in, anyway.)

@@leewilder2896 You stealing the comment that is literally the top voted comment on all videos by csb is not you pretending to be cool and original?

I wish the company I work for would sit us down and make us learn from these. As a firefighter, I also learn from every firefighter death.

As a non-American, I am quite surprised that the results of the investigations are "recommendations" rather than laws. I know that Americans are regulations adverse but people died.

To an extent, a decent company will assume that operators who don't have engineering or chemistry training are prone to making errors. I've seen facilities assume one in thousand times you do it, you'll do it wrong. Which seems good, but if you do it twice a day, that's every year and a half. It's not that they are stupid, it's that everyone makes mistakes.

@@letsburn00 yeah but there are certain fields where mistakes CANNOT be made because they will be deadly. This is one of those. That's why there's rules, regulations and checklists in place to remove the human error part. Think about if you had surgery and the surgeon accidentally cuts an artery, you bleed out and die and they had to revive you and give you blood then they say "yeah sorry, we made a mistake". There's no room for error in some fields.

@@youngeshmoney Yeah, that's why LOPA analysis is used industrially so much. Reduction to things like once every 10,000 years for semi random chance is also cross protective. What's funny here is they talk about procedures. I personally feel procedures aren't a very effect protection layer. Funny thing about your surgeon analogy. If you look at the best surgeon on earth, who can do difficult surgeries without negative effects and has very high success rates, That guy is the actual baseline. The level that the other surgeons are at is the baseline plus human error. That all said, the last 2.5 years have proven to me that 80% of people have no clue how risk analysis works. But then again, if it was simple and intuitive, I wouldn't have a job.

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Same here, except we only use paper plates so I didn't notice those make any noises.

@@deelanders6132 Jesus, the forests! 🌲

@@deelanders6132 perfect comment

@@deelanders6132 this may or may not have been a joke but I must say it was very funny

@@caesiumm I'll come clean I was having fun at the expense of a town hit by disaster. No trees were harmed in the making of this video or comment section. You guys are fun, which means you get the China for a plate at my home!

There's also the addition of hydraulic fluid injection injuries

What on earth do you do for a living that you got that call and the only thing your boss would let you do is recite a liability script?!

And because nothing happened, now you're an alarmist

Fascinating Horror's most recent video was exactly that scenario but with the bad outcome (and much worse due to many cut corners and bad decisions by management)

@@sauercrowder fuck dude I know this feeling. I remember always warning my fellow security guards that "the company doesn't give a shit about you, you could be murdered on shift and they wouldn't change shit" and they would shrug it off. Well guess what? One of our own guards was murdered (at another site on the other side of the country) and some of them STILL don't give a shit. Honestly at this point I kinda wish it happens to them too, as their dues for being shitfucks when it comes to actual safe working conditions.

Not necessarily. There was that one story in Wisconsin where a bunch of asphalt leaked at a factory but the first responders had trained with the company and nobody ended up dying. They even stopped the leak and put the fire out in the same day. In fact, it was the best possible outcome given the scenario.

Thank you, I was wondering about the details

Is this pH related, because for adjusting it was fine, but dumping a whole barrel in it triggered it?

@@VintageTechFan I'm no expert on this particular process but my theory is that the KOH for pH correction was added to finished product whereas the accident KOH was added to an unreacted ingredient. It's definitely possible that the finished product has totally different properties than the "pure XL 10" precursor. I'm drawing on my experience with adhesives manufacture which is similar but different.

Adding KOH to either the XL10 or the product can produce H2 (I may have seen that fact in an article I read on this accident). Since pH balancing the finished product seems like it was a routine process, I am guessing that it produces MUCH less H2 and/or more slowly, so you can get away with it if you do it afterwards. Polymers tend to be relatively unreactive. Analogous to tossing a match onto a pile of flour as opposed to into a cloud of flour dust.... I've been involved with laboratory safety for many years; making it difficult (or better, damned near impossible) to accidentally have incompatible chemicals come in contact with another is a big area of concern. Coincidentally, I was once a quality lab chemist in a plant with a process that could easily have created a large smoking hole in the ground. I was glad to move on from that one!

@@corydalus981 rewatching the video it seems as if the night shift added waay too much KOH to the process. The proper amount probably releases a managable amount of H2, but they added too much.

I used to work Merchant's now Tire Kingdom they don't give a shit about safety and didn't care that we needed new equipment my store manager almost had his head smashed from a tire after he got it on the rim went to put air in it to set the bead and when the bead set the whole tire came flying off the tire machine

You wouldn't believe how many people disable the locks on their lifts ...

@@Merker367 I know ive seen some pretty stupid shit when I was in the shop guys not putting lift on locks to service manager getting his leg cut open when he opened the bay door and the glass fell out of the door

If you're just doing a tire and you're not under the vehicle you're fine. I mean, might fuck your brake rotors up a bit if it falls, but thats it What kind of truck do you have that weighs 7000 lbs? F250 or equivalent?

@@RVBJohn ok so a shop drops your car on it's rotors and bends up the shields and your supposed to be ok with that? No matter if someone's under the vehicle or not, always use stands

Thank you for the question. Yes, the CSB's investigation into the January 28, 2021, liquid nitrogen release at the Foundation Food Group’s Prepared Foods Division in Gainesville, GA, is currently underway.

Only one Sheldon!

I wish he would read my school work to me.

He could narrate boiling an egg and it would be intense to listen to

@@kenosabi He probably could but it might take a while to get to it.

@@comcfi He was like the English president (Breslin?) of years ago. A voice that always stood out.

Registered nurse, and daughter of a firefighter and EMT here 🙋

Software engineer. Only chemical I've come in contact with professionally would be CPU thermal paste.

There are great lessons to learn in all of these reports that can apply to non-industry contexts. It's all about preventative problem solving, learning to look at a situation and automatically think, "Ok, before I get too deep into this, what could go wrong here?" Most of the CSB reports point out things that seem painfully obvious in retrospect. It is totally worth taking that extra bit of thought at the beginning, instead of beating yourself up for having missed the obvious after it's too late.

Admin for the NHS here... yep fascinated by stuff like this. At work for example we have different coloured bags for different levels of hazardous waste (from bog standard black domestic bags, to red for infectious stuff), different colours of mops and cloths for cleaning different types of spills. Different coloured medical bins for sharps or medication destruction etc. First thing I saw in this was 'how do you tell the difference of which chemical is in which drum?' Even before they got into the explanation of what happened in detail.

Former chemical engineer and changed to real estate. I still watch though since they are great lessons in human behavior.

"Well, we aren't going to spill [chemical]! Only someone bad at their job would spill it. Are you saying you're bad at your job?" I have been told this too many times when pointing out safety hazards in workplaces. The lack of safety culture is endemic through so many industries.

Partly I think this was caused by the company’s decision to issue process orders without having their workers understanding the processes.

She was just reading a script. She didn't actually understand any of it, lol. She was probably thinking about sweet potatoes.

@@Connection-Lost Go take your racist stereotypes elsewhere.

Probably not too much on an oopsie on the floor scale, this is the sort of incompatibility that requires multiple full drums being mixed vigorously to cause a dangerous reaction.

This seems to be a common thread in these incidents (see the Ghent gas station explosion). And in a lot of unnecessary deaths and injuries in other disasters (specifically wildfires, mass shooters etc etc) - "when in doubt, GET OUT" is the golden rule of *staying alive.* The most being the first to the exits and very far away will cause is some inconvenience or embarrassment or maybe lost money. Staying out of uncertainty can cost you horrible injuries or your life. That fire up in the hills *can* be on you in five minutes with bad winds. Those pops/booms aren't firecrackers or whatever else your brain tells you they are. That gas cloud should be assumed to be explosive, toxic, or some horrific combination of the two - and shouldn't be there in the first place. GET. OUT.

@@questionablebackyardmeows The issue for a lot of these is an inability to recognize dangers due to poor/zero safety training. Reminds me of a Feynmann story on the Manhattan project - workers were storing uranium slurry, and when asked by the inspecting physicists if they weren't worried that stacking the barrels as they were doing could cause an explosion, the workers responded, "huh? EXPLODE?" At least that had secrecy guidelines as an excuse, this is just negligence.

Blue drums are industry standard for a lot of bulk chemicals. You can , theoretically, get custom stuff but that is additional costs and delays. And there are thousands of chemicals and infinite combinations of them. We have KOH in IBCs and it looks like every other IBC on a warehouse. I would be interested in a detailed video, and/or analysis, about a production facility that does this right. Second of all, materials like KOH are very dangerous and it should be illegal to sell them in the same containers as any other material (but with a sticker!). But that is jut me I guess.

the drums are a standard bulk container and it wasn't clear if they were being reused inside the plant or not. however a good way to deal with this is to simply have your receiving (or loading if dealing with internal reuse) department put a band around the barrel, could be as simple as a colored band or as complex as a laser cut sign depending on the needs of the individual plant, once empty the band would be removed.

Likewise, these additional mixed chemicals should have the amount needed measured out into a separate container and then the excess put back in the storage

@@DWPL89 I think my idea for an in house band or sign that gets installed on all containers as soon as they are brought in would deal with your problem as well, if the bean counters don't like the idea find out how much a single mix up of those IBCs would cost, I'm sure anything form a few thousand to a few million if something like what happens in the video happens.

Because they order it from suppliers.

Don't forget Seconds From Disaster, where they tell the viewers how things went wrong. Heck, even the Deepwater Horizon and Texas City were shown on it

Are you from Canada? I noticed in other countries they call the show 'Mayday', Airplane Disasters. I love Mayday and Foremsic Files, I've been watching both since 2005.

@@boobyhill6921 No, but we get the Canadian rips when streaming it

@@decepticonsretreat where do you stream it? i’ve just been watching the one with the british narrator on youtube but i really prefer the canadian narrator

I am just happy that these videos are finally getting recognition. I tried spreading them way back in 2014 to no avail. I don't know why they became popular all of a sudden.

I couldn’t do that job. I’d be too upset to make a professional testimony: I’d be like “These mother***ers didn’t have an alarm, a ventilation system, a gas detector, training for the workers, or common fu**king sense to label the reactive chemicals in a different color container. 4 people have tragically perished because the management is deadly incompetence personified”.

Hydrogen gas is insanely explosive. Making a car run on it soooo much worse in an accident compared to petrol

This ^

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😂😂 I used this exact joke with the last girl I dated🤣👏🏼👏🏼

Haha

Blue is an often used colour.

with different, incompatible chemicals nonetheless!

@GsaUce Rug Lip service is given about training but rarely done because....that would take away from production time.

Blue, black, white, or translucent are about the only colors available in that style drum.

@@2fathomsdeeper exactly, these morons think they choose the drum colors lol

Yes sir !

as someone with a very elementary understanding of chemistry, just the name "potassium hydroxide" sounds dangerous as fuck. potassium = boom, hydrogen = boom, oxygen = fire and more boom edit: for fucks sake, same colored drums for the same compounds?

Its called an oversight

I mean tbh, the hazard is really the volume of the chemicals used. Lots and lots of chemicals can produce hydrogen when mixed, that's very common. The company should have had a general chemical hazard control program that would have applied to this. There really isn't any gap in the regulation as far as I know, they just didn't do what they're supposed to. Just look at the fact that they had gas detectors but that they were non-functional. I guess what I'm saying is, these chemicals really aren't especially hazardous but there should have been a program in place to identify and prevent the kinds of issues that occurred and it should have been audited.

@@sauercrowder As I understand it, gas detectors at that facility had very short life spans because of the particular types of products produced there. Arguably, they should have instituted regular testing and replacement, but it's easy to let that kind of thing slip when there's noone checking up on you regularly, telling you that you have to do it.

@@technoturnovers7072 That's not quite how chemistry works. Potassium Chloride sound very dangerous. Potassium = Boom, Chlorine = Deadly. When in actual fact it's sea salt ( or at least a major component of it) and people eat it every day.

I mean, you can see the aftermath. It blew out the whole factory, down to the framework What made this all the worse, it would seem, is that instead of dumping the hydrogen outside, the ventilation system mixed it thoroughly with the internal atmosphere, turning the upper stories into a huge fuel-air bomb.

@@watchm4ker That was my first thought. Surely the hydrogen could have been vented out of the building. When it wasn't, the result was inevitable.

Pay attention to the meeting then instead of watching youtube jeez...

Yeah yeah we get it safety violations should never exist blah blah blah it’s a tragedy blah blah blah

@@RepresentWV Look at the millennial trying to be "edgy"

i came here to say this! the first overheard shot of the building dag gone near looked like it was real, and i swear i know 3 dudes who look just like those cg dudes!

@@marctronixx 😂😂😂😂

Thank you for your interest in CSB safety videos. All CSB safety videos are in the public domain. We encourage you to use the videos for educational purposes but do ask that you please provide attribution to the U.S. Chemical Safety Board.

Under US law, government reports are in the public domain. So you are completely in the clear to use this in your class.

@@USCSB thank you! I appreciate the quick response.

We still use USCSB's hot work video in new employee training. 👍 I actually just randomly came across their KZfaq channel today and now I'm binge watching.

There have been a few comments from foreigners saying that they use these videos for training in their countries.

Great comment!!

The potential number of reactive hazards aren't 'unlimited'; they're specifically limited by the number of different chemicals that a facility has on hand. A well developed safety program would include, at a minimum, identifying the potential 'worst case scenario' reactions, and having appropriate mitigative measures in place. Detecting a dangerous reaction after it has begun, is certainly not a better solution than avoiding those reactions in the first place.

@@historyteacher5821 I agree. But accidents still happen. It is sort of like the code and the fire department. We have codes to minimize hazards. But try as we may, we still have the fire department because accidents happen.

Haha

Great question. Out of 861 recommendations issued by the CSB, 774 of them, or 90%, have been closed. You can learn more here: www.csb.gov/recommendations/

@@USCSB Closed recomendation means "Ignored or dismissed" or "taken into consideration" or "acted upon"?

@@RodrigoSilvaRocha Taking a look at the website it looks like the vast majority have been closed because acceptable action has been taken by regulators or industry

Thank you for the question. The vast majority of CSB recommendations are closed due to "Acceptable Action" on the part of the recommendations recipient, however, there are a smaller number that are closed because they were "Reconsidered/Superseded" or "No Longer Applicable." An even smaller number, about 5%, are closed due to "Unacceptable Action/No Response Received." The CSB tracks all recommendations and communicates regularly with recommendations recipients to ensure that the recommended corrective actions are implemented.

@@USCSB Wow! I did not expect a response to this question. I appreciate the response. Thanks so much for the work y'all are doing!

Well, the good news is you're going to get to keep enjoying CSB content.