Use Car Ramps at your own risk!

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Best Hombre

Best Hombre

3 жыл бұрын

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@northernmetalworker
@northernmetalworker 6 ай бұрын
The ramps aren't the problem. The solution is not to be a dumbass.
@cleanablegerm4066
@cleanablegerm4066 3 ай бұрын
😂😂
@jasonrobbins4227
@jasonrobbins4227 3 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣 they should've got a rolling start 🤣🤣🤣
@ImWagon
@ImWagon 3 ай бұрын
Very insightful ty.
@maxmendez8633
@maxmendez8633 3 ай бұрын
Also, they should have bought ramps with more weight or put something in front of them so they don’t slide.
@flatcube3706
@flatcube3706 2 ай бұрын
So do you know the solution or did you just write that?
@edgarshoe
@edgarshoe Жыл бұрын
this is why I don't trust people. both the person in the video and the person recording the video could have warned the driver something was wrong. 🙄
@rustyshackleford1920
@rustyshackleford1920 Жыл бұрын
bro i totally agree i was just thinking that
@fc3s259
@fc3s259 Жыл бұрын
Thank you 😂
@-Sam69
@-Sam69 Жыл бұрын
They already told him before but driver did it anyway for the video to happen 😂 Are you really this slow?
@artaxerxes2363
@artaxerxes2363 9 ай бұрын
​@-Sam69 yes , he's really that slow.
@ifixeditmyself1926
@ifixeditmyself1926 9 ай бұрын
Exactly. Don't just stand there and watch it slip.
@ThomasNappo
@ThomasNappo 3 ай бұрын
OF COURSE ITS GONA SLIDE ON CONCRETE....WAKE UP😂😂😂
@SirCavemaninthewest
@SirCavemaninthewest Ай бұрын
Ok I'll use mud next time
@carlovanrijk4039
@carlovanrijk4039 15 күн бұрын
I put a rubber mat underneath mine to keep it from sliding.
@gussingh3948
@gussingh3948 6 ай бұрын
Just put a rubber mat underneath. Improvise as a mechanic would.
@jeremyshanemcgowan5949
@jeremyshanemcgowan5949 3 ай бұрын
Yes!!!! This comment should be number one. Exactly what you should do
@jayryan7473
@jayryan7473 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately nobody taking part in the filming of this video is a mechanic.
@thelaganator6391
@thelaganator6391 2 ай бұрын
Ima be honest. We just kinda lifted the truck up until we could slide the ramps in.
@danbrown935
@danbrown935 Ай бұрын
Me to I have the same ramps and rubbers are bolted to mine
@gordocarbo
@gordocarbo Ай бұрын
That would require using thier brain. Nobody tol them they have to so made a vid blaming the part instead
@yellows10dude
@yellows10dude 2 ай бұрын
"Ramp companies hate him for this one trick...."
@AdrianMartinez-gn9ss
@AdrianMartinez-gn9ss 6 ай бұрын
Tie a rope on each ramp and let the car run over the rope as the van moves forward it will climb up the ramp and hold the rope down the rear wheels will also run over the rope and the ramp won’t slide forward .
@bobbyz7736
@bobbyz7736 2 ай бұрын
That really is a great idea. I didn't think of doing something like that. My first thought was to bolt a crossways 2x4 to the floor so the damn ramps wont slide. I am going to try that idea in the morning. Thanks for the share.
@spacecruisers
@spacecruisers 11 күн бұрын
Yeah but it’s easier to just bitch about it online
@jaysteph3167
@jaysteph3167 Жыл бұрын
Looks like it’s the drivers fault and not the ramps 😂they have other ramps that don’t start off steep
@zureai
@zureai 6 ай бұрын
Places car ramp with nothing underneath to prevent it from sliding- “yeah I don’t trust this shit”. That is user error. So you don’t trust yourself. I wouldn’t trust you either.. you literally just silently recorded
@mckulla96wolf
@mckulla96wolf 28 күн бұрын
what would be flat enough but also grippy enough to prevent something like this from happening, though?
@zureai
@zureai 28 күн бұрын
@@mckulla96wolf you got them all in your car. A MAT. Any rubber mat. Your tires are made of rubber, so I don’t see why a rubber mat won’t work…. So simple haha
@jerseyjim9092
@jerseyjim9092 5 ай бұрын
Always use layered protection when working under a car. Never trust just a jack or a ramp. I worked ems for years and over the years and had to pull several young men from under vehicles. Bad way to go. Teach your sons.
@impactodelsurenterprise2440
@impactodelsurenterprise2440 3 ай бұрын
They all dead on arrival?
@jerseyjim9092
@jerseyjim9092 3 ай бұрын
@@impactodelsurenterprise2440 yep.
@KingJT80
@KingJT80 Ай бұрын
a jack sure but ramps? just put the e brake on. ive never had a safety problem other than this but its easy to get them to stop sliding
@KennethT32505
@KennethT32505 Жыл бұрын
I always use a jack stand with ramp PLUS my 3 ton jack, can't be too careful. You only have 1 life.
@BestHombre
@BestHombre Жыл бұрын
This is it for me too, lowered onto stands, but still always with some of the load on the Jack itself.
@John3one7
@John3one7 10 ай бұрын
Good idea. This is what I'm trying to figure out before I go buy a jack/stand kit. I have 2 rhino ramps but don't trust them 100. Think I could jack up the front center, use 2 jack stands and 2 ramps? Then lower the car & adjust stands until everything"s supporting some weight? Heck I'll even leave the jack too, if I can still get the work done.
@KennethT32505
@KennethT32505 10 ай бұрын
@@John3one7 what I do is ride on the ramps, then put 2 stands on 2 side of main frame... extend them to meet height of car. It's ok if some slack. If a ramp fail, the stand will hold the weight. Then, I just put the jack where I have enough room to do the work.
@chrishayes5755
@chrishayes5755 4 ай бұрын
@@KennethT32505 if the vehicles rolls off the ramps it's toppling those jacks over if there's any slack.
@JC-lk3oy
@JC-lk3oy 2 ай бұрын
​@@chrishayes5755 That's what the parking brake and wheel chocks are for.
@wouldntyouliketoknow1477
@wouldntyouliketoknow1477 2 ай бұрын
Ramps don’t kill people, dummy’s kill people
@retrowatches1655
@retrowatches1655 4 күн бұрын
Those ramps look like they are made of egg carton material . I originally thought they would collapse .
@lucidbarrier
@lucidbarrier 8 ай бұрын
I have the Scepter Pro ramps, the plastic ones and I've used them for years. You have to block the ramps from moving with a couple of bags of playground sand or a couple of pavers. The metal ramps skid on the concrete. The plastic ones just need a paver to keep from moving. You are pushing up an incline with heavy car with very little contact area on a smooth surface. Plus those ramps are really steep.
@Ahmed____
@Ahmed____ 6 ай бұрын
This has got nothing to do with the ramps. Whilst I agree with others that this style is not particularly safe, the reason why they are sliding is because the vehicle is rear wheel drive, and effectively 'pushes' the ramps. A front wheel drive/4x4 would not do this on these ramps. A failure of the operator to understand the vehicle and conditions he is using the equipment in.
@zchris87v80
@zchris87v80 Күн бұрын
Not to mention there is nothing to prevent these sliding forward. My plastic/rubberized ones work great on rough concrete, but terrible on a shop floor. I made a wooden "H" by putting three 2x4's together, which sits flush with the back of my garage on one end and against the ramps on the other. Keeps them from sliding out when reversing in a front wheel drive.
@russbenner4872
@russbenner4872 13 күн бұрын
Only happens on rear wheel drives unless you are backing up the ramps using front wheel drive .
@nathanlambert1502
@nathanlambert1502 9 ай бұрын
Those ramps are garbage, I remember seeing these when I was young. Never trusted those things
@johnf.6942
@johnf.6942 2 ай бұрын
Use rubber mats under ramps. Extra expense but worth it.
@echochamber4420
@echochamber4420 Ай бұрын
Building ramps from wood is much better. You can build stair ramps out of 2x6’s for free if you can find scrap.
@Assertiveman
@Assertiveman 9 ай бұрын
I recently dropped my car on my hand guys please use the proper jack that is equivalent to the weight your jacking up and jack stand the correct weight, also take care of your stuff and inspect
@BestHombre
@BestHombre 9 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear about your hand… thank you for dropping some wisdom though, hoping for a full recovery!
@ApacheChief
@ApacheChief Жыл бұрын
I would brace them ramps. Looks like they can collapse
@user-zp8el8pi3c
@user-zp8el8pi3c 23 күн бұрын
Ramps are safe if used properly slick concrete put down rubber mat or plywood or tie rope to front of each one leaving enough to lay down the length of your vehicle drive safely but work safely too.
@Fartbeatsensor
@Fartbeatsensor 5 ай бұрын
This is the reason you cant trust anyone that says they're a "mechanic"
@rynofroneman6574
@rynofroneman6574 4 ай бұрын
I'm guessing this vehicle is rear wheel drive. If it is place the ramps on rubber since the front wheels aren't pulling itself onto the ramps/aren't pulling the ramps underneath itself. Their just being pushed forwards
@TheSnobbyDawg
@TheSnobbyDawg 3 сағат бұрын
My 21 Toyota 4runner limited with full time AWD walks right up these, even on concrete..no slippage at all..
@myke_bota7590
@myke_bota7590 4 ай бұрын
I used a thick rubber mat under my ramps for traction and it worked well for me.
@justaguy5770
@justaguy5770 13 күн бұрын
That's why I don't like using them alone but I do trust them if set up right
@6xflowerranch890
@6xflowerranch890 Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how people trusted those red metal ramps for decades . My pops has some for years and before he discarded them I was looking at by the welds and I couldn’t believe my eyes how people trusted them for so many decades . I use 2 jacks plus 4 Jack stands and some 4x6 blocks I have laying around. Remember too that you tug on bolts and parts which might disturb your stands. Please be safe out there. As they say “the devil never sleeps”
@tryandtakealaska3797
@tryandtakealaska3797 11 ай бұрын
welds why would there be welds on stamped steel lol. i have ramp but mine was niot these mine have supports so they dont go flat
@robmen1402
@robmen1402 10 ай бұрын
Ive never heard lf any stores of ramps collapsing. You know what i have heard all the time tho? Jacks and jack atands failing lol.
@Beau-Gus
@Beau-Gus 10 ай бұрын
@@robmen1402well my ramps collapsed and ripped the front of my mustang off and that’s why I’m here.
@robmen1402
@robmen1402 10 ай бұрын
@@Beau-Gus That's why you can't just rely on one thing to keep your car up, always put those jacks stands there and jack stands are not that expensive, you can get some really good quality ones for like $120 for a pair.
@fantaztikbeatz
@fantaztikbeatz 8 ай бұрын
Thank you 😊
@archerash6695
@archerash6695 2 ай бұрын
You have to hit them with a tiny bit more power so the weight is on the ramp, then it won't slide. If you pussy foot it, this will happen. Or lay down rubber mats.
@blackdrag450r
@blackdrag450r 18 күн бұрын
Lay a short board right at the bottom of the ramp so that there is weight on the ramp before the vehicle is all the way on it. Also this isn’t a problem for fwd vehicles
@okd_v
@okd_v 11 ай бұрын
This is likw jacking up a car on a fender, it breaking apart and being like "this is why i dont trust jacks"... Provide some backing, have a backup (or 2 or 3) in case they fail, use ramps that fit your vehicle well, and always inspect before getting under
@JernExotic-nq5df
@JernExotic-nq5df 6 ай бұрын
Build wooden ramps theyre much safer. Few videos on youtube of some safe smart designs
@bruceli9094
@bruceli9094 10 ай бұрын
Make your own ramp. Mine is 8 ton SOLID concrete steel block ramp weld it to the ground. Even earthquakes won't move it. Cost about $25000 but it's worth it.
@martysmith8657
@martysmith8657 Ай бұрын
My father always had a collection of heavy oak blocks on top of his jack stands
@Airon79
@Airon79 Ай бұрын
Should they start making them with a flat piece of metal in front of the ramp (a pre-ramp or extension of sorts) so the vehicle can drive up on that extension with , hopefully , no problems and since that extension is part of the ramp one shouldn't have a problem driving up the rest of the ramp . At least it sounds like it would work .
@WRENCHGODLLC
@WRENCHGODLLC 6 ай бұрын
I jack up the car majority of the time then put ramps under but steel ramps slide very easy my plastic rhino rams have anti skid stuff under and I drive up with ease
@safecarsforyou
@safecarsforyou 18 күн бұрын
Bilateral ramps must be linked by a horizontal strip or bar and the inclines must adhere to the wheels here one is adherent and got on top the other wasn't it was slipping
@karlmartinek6939
@karlmartinek6939 Ай бұрын
Lol. Ive always used ramps and have never had issues. The smooth concrete doesnt help either.😂
@DaleDenton
@DaleDenton 17 сағат бұрын
Or, you could kick the ramp a little so it grabs under the tire. Just a thought.
@davebur3350
@davebur3350 Ай бұрын
Pur some GOD-DAMN PlyWOOD Under Them You JACKWAGONs😵‍💫😤
@joshbenitez8210
@joshbenitez8210 7 ай бұрын
When you dont know physics
@vintagethrifter2114
@vintagethrifter2114 8 күн бұрын
Sometimes you just have to be smarter than the ramps.
@embededfabrication4482
@embededfabrication4482 2 ай бұрын
Your supposed to take a run at it. I'm not kidding, go fast to get on the ramp and then back off. I open the door so I can see the ramp
@jarripotero8535
@jarripotero8535 26 күн бұрын
Convert the Econoline to FWD !!!!! Fit some rubber pieces under the ramps, make a hole in the ground and fit a good bolt, use 2 legs of that elevator to stop the ramps, use the brain.
@MintyFreshTurds
@MintyFreshTurds Ай бұрын
I hate those kind of ramps, but I do like the good ramps
@flyfshrmn09
@flyfshrmn09 17 күн бұрын
The ramps are not the problem, the user is. Block them from sliding with a chock or a old piece of rubberized rug, which will also keep them from gouging the concrete. bg
@Mawyman2316
@Mawyman2316 Жыл бұрын
This is why I don't trust mechanics (insert whatever industry this is if not mechanics). Can't even use their tools properly.
@JoeBuck-uc3bl
@JoeBuck-uc3bl Ай бұрын
It’s not the ramp that’s the problem. That is paranormal activity that’s going on there! People need to take this stuff more seriously, and stop thinking that it’s only stories of fiction that belong in movies.
@ScullyBrewing
@ScullyBrewing Ай бұрын
No, this is why you dont use THOSE ramps. Especially without chocking them…
@pogojp
@pogojp 2 ай бұрын
The driver doesn't hear that thing moving? The guy recording doesn't tell him? Clickbait.
@gordocarbo
@gordocarbo Ай бұрын
Too much self smarting going on in this vid They walk among us!
@livenfree
@livenfree 11 ай бұрын
Put some floor mats underneath the ramps so they won't slide
@jaydogtitan-ok3vw
@jaydogtitan-ok3vw Ай бұрын
Ramps are basically designed for outdoor use, On a concrete floor they are dangerous but someone who knows what they're doing shouldn't have a problem.
@terryross1754
@terryross1754 Ай бұрын
Shitty ramps, no slide resistance, incompetent people = disaster waiting to happen
@fullthrottle2008
@fullthrottle2008 2 ай бұрын
Just use some empty egg boxes-much safer and stronger than you think 👍
@dougshiner9180
@dougshiner9180 Ай бұрын
I bought some plastic ramps with rubber feet. Very rarely a problem. Its not to say that they wont or dont skid away, its quite rare though.
@colleencrombie5643
@colleencrombie5643 Жыл бұрын
Especially those metal ones, they collapse.
@BestHombre
@BestHombre Жыл бұрын
Damn, good to know! I've seen the plastic ones crack and fall to pieces basically. I heard of people swearing by the metal, but that makes sense.
@markchidester6239
@markchidester6239 3 ай бұрын
Wood. Get a couple of 2x10s. I'm sure you get the rest.
@whatitisnt.
@whatitisnt. 3 ай бұрын
@@markchidester6239how does the wood help other than for blocks?
@silverblue571
@silverblue571 5 ай бұрын
It’s the person who set this up that shouldn’t be trusted. Where’s the wedge for the ramps. The ramps are fine.
@jason200912
@jason200912 19 күн бұрын
I saw the most genius thing the other day and my neighbor used a sidewalk curb as a car jack lol
@taylorwelsh149
@taylorwelsh149 Жыл бұрын
User error 😂
@Kamal_AL-Hinai
@Kamal_AL-Hinai Жыл бұрын
How?
@TheCdubbleyoo
@TheCdubbleyoo 11 ай бұрын
ramps are old...ramps likely not weighted for that veh., ramps should be placed on rubber pads to prevent slipping...but there are far better ramps now.
@desicdoggy4034
@desicdoggy4034 Ай бұрын
Boyd you’re using old rusty ramps that will slide on a smooth surface with a heavy as van what did you think would happen
@illx2367
@illx2367 Ай бұрын
A wedge under that might have stopped it from advancing..
@Bucknut72470
@Bucknut72470 2 ай бұрын
I put a stopper of some kind or just simply hold it with my foot while someone else pulls on.
@Timothyshannon-fz4jx
@Timothyshannon-fz4jx Күн бұрын
If it does not look safe it IS NOT SAFE!!!!
@planethedgehog2427
@planethedgehog2427 2 ай бұрын
Those ramps suck. Worse, he was lifting it up to replace the front brakes.😆
@502Louisville
@502Louisville 2 ай бұрын
You have to get a running start and hit them ramps doing about 25 mph
@jayryan7473
@jayryan7473 3 ай бұрын
"Let's put our cheap, poorly designed ramps on a smooth slick surface and film it!" said a dumbass one day.
@ARNYKATZ
@ARNYKATZ 25 күн бұрын
You just have to be smarter than the ramps.
@raulg705
@raulg705 10 ай бұрын
That’s why I got rid of mine exactly like that rather get the modern ones
@wilsontorres9706
@wilsontorres9706 3 ай бұрын
The ramps aren't the problem, you are the problem
@originlgazza5925
@originlgazza5925 25 күн бұрын
"I don't trust ramps, they move when you use them on concrete....I will instead use jacks that are known for being much more dangerous especially on a concrete floor"
@andrewlee3037
@andrewlee3037 7 ай бұрын
i got the plastic Rhino ramps, had one slightly angled wrong and Ka-CHUNK went under the car...had to use a jack to raise that side and reset the ramp...all was good, but got me really wondering now if that's currently whats wrong with my car......maybe something got damaged. cuz im currently having major suspension issues but can't exactly pinpoint
@Giveupknowledge32
@Giveupknowledge32 Жыл бұрын
They work fine, but why would you use the on the smooth surface???
@BestHombre
@BestHombre Жыл бұрын
Unclear, this whole thing wasn’t my idea.
@Airon79
@Airon79 Ай бұрын
Would tying a rope or cable to the ramp and then laying out said cable/rope along the tire tracks so the vehicle dives over the ropes/cables thus allowing the tires to hold it in place while still driving up the ramps . It seems like it wouldn't take an extreme amount of force to hold the ramps in place while the vehicle drives up the ramps .
@Airon79
@Airon79 Ай бұрын
If your ramps have holes on the incline you might be able to use the part of the cargo strap without the ratchet so hook it through one of the holes .
@Wilson82668
@Wilson82668 10 күн бұрын
How many people knew exactly what was going to happen😅 When I was a kid I tried that same thing and I realized that ramps won't work on concrete I was 8.
@ksk5517
@ksk5517 8 ай бұрын
These older metal ramps are taller than the plastic ramps, increasing the chance of excessive sliding. The ramps should slide a couple of inches when the tires are on top of the ramp to prevent running over. So, if you have these older metal ramps, please be careful.
@PhilipNorthcutt
@PhilipNorthcutt Ай бұрын
It works better if you put your toes under the ramp. Be sure to take your shoes off first!
@lunchspecialgio7660
@lunchspecialgio7660 9 ай бұрын
This is why u shouldnt trust shi++y car ramps...
@EricSepulveda
@EricSepulveda Ай бұрын
Yeah, you can't do it that way. Get a little head start and coast up them ramps,obviously
@user-gd9hq4rc8o
@user-gd9hq4rc8o 15 күн бұрын
There is very little friction between concrete and metal. Come on. Anyone using ramps in the first place should know this. I use the plastic semi-solid honeycombed ramps with rubber feet. Never had an issue.
@markthompson2466
@markthompson2466 2 ай бұрын
DRRRRRRR Hell....what a surprise I'm guessing whatever YOU use will be dangerous
@Gizzle605
@Gizzle605 Ай бұрын
That left ramp said nope not today
@bflkurby1
@bflkurby1 Жыл бұрын
Why tf wouldn't you tell him HEY STOP. 🙄🙄
@BestHombre
@BestHombre Жыл бұрын
If you knew this guy, he probably would have just yelled “what! I know what I’m doing”
@cheeseburgerrunner5217
@cheeseburgerrunner5217 Жыл бұрын
@@BestHombreF for effort.
@jeffclark5024
@jeffclark5024 2 ай бұрын
Literally putting it on ramps while driving between the hoist posts…. Use the hoist
@IDABAYAREA650I
@IDABAYAREA650I 2 ай бұрын
*And i don’t trust Any Sinks! I touch the water and get my hands WET!!* 😒
@shadowcat4963
@shadowcat4963 4 күн бұрын
i use rhino ramps and they havent let me down yet!
@Slowednreverbedd
@Slowednreverbedd 4 ай бұрын
rubber on the bottom? i mean i’m no genius but whenever thing started sliding i threw a blanket under… not rocket science…. im a bad driver too and i could do this
@aviram2441
@aviram2441 6 ай бұрын
Or make some diy wooden ramps and that should be pretty dam
@carbeastsm
@carbeastsm Ай бұрын
The van is too light, ramps would be good for heavier vehicles like suvs and pickups
@craigwiess1656
@craigwiess1656 Ай бұрын
You do realize vans are just as heavy as SUVs, surprised those ramps didn't collapse
@carbeastsm
@carbeastsm Ай бұрын
@@craigwiess1656 a large marcedes sprinter or ford transit is approximately 1900kg whilst a midsize mercedes glc coupe is 2300kg , my current mercedes gle is about 2900kg
@craigwiess1656
@craigwiess1656 Ай бұрын
@@carbeastsm that's not a Transit, that's an E-series. Full frame about 6,900lbs depending on engine(4.6,5.4 v8, 6.8 v10 and 7.3 or 6.0 powerstroke diesel) if it is the extended 14 passenger weight can hit 7,400lbs. 1900kg/4189lbs is less than the 3rd gen Honda Odyssey mini-van 4,400lbs.
@Xer_Mrcy
@Xer_Mrcy Жыл бұрын
Why don't people just put something heavy in front of the ramps to keep them from moving?
@toothpickjanitor3681
@toothpickjanitor3681 10 ай бұрын
Ramps are for 4x4 and fwd vehicles or rwd you just gotta jack it up then drop it on the ramps
@blackdrag450r
@blackdrag450r 18 күн бұрын
I wouldn’t trust those anyways. No gussets on them.
@harryd9782
@harryd9782 Ай бұрын
Using metal ramps on smooth concrete? Way to go…maybe if you stepped into the 21st Century, tossed those old metal ramps and got a set of polymer ramps with traction bottoms they wouldn’t slide and you wouldn’t fear them.
@ThirdHandle
@ThirdHandle 2 ай бұрын
One of your friends needs to stand against the ramp, that’s how you get it to stay in place…duh…
@solaydbak
@solaydbak 4 ай бұрын
Puts metal ramps on slick floor. And wonders why it's not getting traction... 😂
@lepopcornnaisseur546
@lepopcornnaisseur546 2 ай бұрын
Putting a cargo van on ramps is WILD 💀
@armoranyone8928
@armoranyone8928 4 ай бұрын
the ramps just need a stopper which u can punch or lock them quickly on the floor. thats it.
@roadhousedelorean2630
@roadhousedelorean2630 8 күн бұрын
Why would you put metal ramps on a smooth floor
@alanburns9466
@alanburns9466 2 ай бұрын
That doesn't look like a problem with the ramps my guy. Looks like you are trying to put too much on them
@big-patria-lo3508
@big-patria-lo3508 17 күн бұрын
Gotta secure the footing first 🙈
@andrewk.7498
@andrewk.7498 2 ай бұрын
It's not the ramps. It's your fault.
@marcz9482
@marcz9482 10 ай бұрын
Great video how not to use ramps as you have a lift
@justincaldarella
@justincaldarella 7 ай бұрын
This should be first comment. There’s nothing wrong with the ramps if used properly. This clickbait-crap video was clearly staged/uploaded for views. If they really cared about peoples safety, they would have shown the proper techniques.
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