The lads welcome their second official guest to the show, Butch James! A man known as much for his tackling technique as his pub rating, he shares with the guys how he managed to get through lockdown with three kids (beer and an amazing wife), playing against the biggest human on the planet (Henry Tuilagi) and Jonah Lomu, and seeing how many toothpicks he can stick in his head (it's more than you think). They also talk about the good old days on and off the field.
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Use It or Lose It is a bi-weekly chat show with former Springboks and rugby legends Jean “JDV” de Villiers and Schalk “Scalla” Burger. It’s shoot from the hip, loose lip, fun, where they share old stories talk sports, dabble in current affairs, and chat to other legends, musicians, celebs, and friends they’ve made over the years.
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