You're welcome! Happy to hear you found it helpful.

Let us know how it went after your next practice session 🙂

It went pretty well! Now I need to work on getting comfortable with it and making it bigger. :)

A lot of coaches skip these jumps. I asked my coach if I could learn them & she said yes. She was starting to teach me the toe loop after the waltz jump. These smaller jumps as an adult skater helped me with confidence & lessening fear.

Glad to hear it helped!

Great suggestion. We'll add it to our planned content list!

You're so welcome! Hope the video helps you out :)

I definitely wouldn't try to think of it as differing intensities of toe pick tapping on both jumps but the toe loop tap can definitely feel softer, as the toe enters the ice at a slight angle, rather than straight down in the flip or lutz, which can feel more impactful.

@@IceCoachOnline thank you for your informative answer.

Jamming your foot in the ground like this is the technique for a flip jump. This is how the jump is done, like all the toe jumps on the ice you have to stick that toe in to make the jump happen. Where as edge jumps, you just straight from the edge. If you watch a figure skating competition, you will see this done a lot. In any sport (including exercises in the gym) you will land on the ball of the foot first, then the rest of the foot goes down, the knees bend, the hips bend. If you land flat footed, this WILL result in injury as you will be absorbing a hard shock through your joints. From a Biomechanical standpoint, what we are teaching is correct. That said, if you are experiencing knee pain you need to get it checked out by a physio to make sure there is not a more serious issue developing. You should also get feedback from a coach on your jump technique as tutorial videos will only get you so far. These videos are best utilised as an assistance to working professional coach locally if there is one available. Feedback is key in making sure you are doing the techniques correct. A lot of people understand the techniques in the video, but when practicing them they are actually doing them slightly wrong. This is where feedback from a coach watching you will make a huge difference. Hope this helps! If you have any more questions, please let us know🙂

@@IceCoachOnline thanks for your reply. I understand and will have to get someone to look at it. I had been avoiding hiring a coach at this point since I'm just at free skate 1 and started last year with adult 1/3/5/prefreeskate group classes. I figured a lot is just inexperience, lack of total ice time, and practice, and the coach expense wasn't ready for yet since not sure how far I want to go in the sport.

@@jrg305 you're welcome! I understand the coach expense can be a big one. It might be worth have a lesson once in a blue moon to make sure you're on the right track and not developing bad habits. That way you won't have to commit to the weekly expenses of paying for lessons. You can always send us a video to our Instagram @icecoachonline or email to team@icecoachonline.com I would give it a quick check to make sure you're not doing something dangerous that can cause injury. -Lloyd

I started learning skating two years ago at age 35. And I started having knee pain. It led me to a whole new world of learning biomechanics of the body. Such as discovering my left glute medius muscle doesn't fire correctly and my protonation of feet can be corrected somewhat by placing my weight differently and exercise the muscles in the whole kinetic chain (physical therapy), where the hips are and where is the C1 vertebrae etc (chiropractor and physiology), and the modern industrial human has forgotten natural posture that made primal tribal people mostly pain free even with life long labor work (Gokhale Method and such), and I am holding a lot of tension in my body has an unconscious habit (Alexander technique). (I am a scientist that likes to waste time researching all kinds of options too much, lol.) So although in the past two years I wasn't able to skate much while making my body stronger and removing tensions and bad habits that led to all my pains, I feel so grateful for ice skating that gives me the opportunity to learn about my body. Ice skating, done correctly, is actually very healthy, for example, correctly hinging at the hip helps strengthen the core, stretch the hamstring (which is often tight in office workers). But if the glutes are not firing and the knees are turning in, foot arch is not supported, and overall weakness in my muscle and posture on ice, that's how got knee pain. I am getting better and better though. (wish our rinks reopen soon for adults......)

Realize I am coming into this a year after the fact. I am just learning jumps and my coach emphasizes a toe pick is a gentle "tap", you aren't trying to dig a hole in the ice and that by slamming your foot down you create downward momentum at the moment you want to be jumping up.