Using a hand saw to rip boards to thickness

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Alex Mosher

Alex Mosher

11 жыл бұрын

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@petercastles5978
@petercastles5978 29 күн бұрын
Nice to see and hear a saw that is well filed, sharp and sweeping through without stopping short of a full cut. A properly sharpened rip is a joy to use.
@alexmosher8710
@alexmosher8710 10 жыл бұрын
That's a very good question, Chris. The short answer is, yes, the typical hardpoint saw will both crosscut and rip. It may be a little slower, but it will work well enough to get you out of a bind. The old style rip saw was made for one purpose and is ideal for that purpose, but don't think you can't start doing good work with what you have available to you. Happy sawing, Alex.
@charleswood2182
@charleswood2182 11 жыл бұрын
Alex I've watched all you videos and look forward to more. I didn't even know ripping to thickness with a handsaw was possible. I've used your method on a couple projects I had no hope of finishing any other way. Your videos create a sense of adventure and play combined with creative work and accomplishment and that is a great thing sir.
@pheenix42
@pheenix42 7 жыл бұрын
Craftsmen had to do this many a time before the advent of shop bandsaws that would allow you to re-saw like this. I'm very glad you posted this, as I'm going to try to pick up a couple of handsaws over the weekend.
@jessvandiest4048
@jessvandiest4048 11 жыл бұрын
Great video! Love the old ways of doing things!
@shenidan2023
@shenidan2023 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to post this video. Great techniques there!
@demetriusgiovannisoares3822
@demetriusgiovannisoares3822 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't know this technique, and finally I've got it is possible resawing a board without a kerfing plane. Thanks for sharing!
@mrdouble
@mrdouble 11 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was looking for. Great video. Thank you
@MarcRitzMD
@MarcRitzMD 8 жыл бұрын
Give me a saw. Tell me to saw that piece of wood in half and I already get a headache. But seeing you point towards all the important aspects of the technique really makes all the difference. You are a good teacher for being aware of the things that might be intuitive to you.
@indigophox
@indigophox 11 жыл бұрын
Heh, figured it out before you got to marking it up, but never really though about it before and it's a VERY clever idea. Thanks for making me think about it and putting it up here so everyone can follow :)
@cosmiccheetah6906
@cosmiccheetah6906 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Just the trick I need to repair a salvaged table. Thank you!
@ChargedPulsar
@ChargedPulsar 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video, it might be simple for carpenters. But I have been looking for a way to do this without bandsaws etc for years.
@dharmakat3
@dharmakat3 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Alex! You've given me courage to give it a go.
@alexmosher8710
@alexmosher8710 9 жыл бұрын
Wonderful, Kat! The whole point is to encourage. Alex
@satopham
@satopham 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, just what I was looking for!
@alexmosher8710
@alexmosher8710 10 жыл бұрын
Actually, Josh, my vise is a variation of the old fashioned leg vise. I made my first workbench a few decades ago, and I used an old wooden screw and nut to make a traditional leg vise. I soon became frustrated with the limitations of that design, and eventually came up with a modification that I like. The vise has a few quirks, but works well. I had not thought about doing a video on the vice, but that is a good idea. Thanks, Alex
@ahikernamedgq
@ahikernamedgq 8 жыл бұрын
Alex, you are MAD!!! That's a great, educational video. Thank you!
@alexmosher8710
@alexmosher8710 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, I suppose that I am mad...in a good way! Enjoy your learning .
@ahikernamedgq
@ahikernamedgq 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alex Mosher!
@richardsinger01
@richardsinger01 3 жыл бұрын
I often find that the board moves a fair bit when you resaw it, and you end up losing thickness when you re-flatten it. Getting two flat 1/4” boards out of a 3/4” one can be challenging, depending on the amount of twist or bow you get when you re-saw. It can also be hard work - but quite rewarding.
@w0mblemania
@w0mblemania 9 жыл бұрын
This was very helpful, thank you!
@rufuscrackle
@rufuscrackle 4 жыл бұрын
I did this for the first time a few weeks ago. I was amazed that i could get it so close to center and ended with two pieces almost perfectly the same thickness
@chucktelschow
@chucktelschow Жыл бұрын
Terrific and I have a little gauge like that and I had no clue what it was used for!
@markharris5771
@markharris5771 5 жыл бұрын
Oh my giddy aunt! I can cut smoked salmon or beef for carpaccio translucently and uniformly thin, but doing this with a piece of wood? Hats off to you do, I’m very impressed and I will be practising on some scrap wood later. It’s all down to different trades and skill sets, and it’s going to give me something to learn in my retirement.
@hakonsoreide
@hakonsoreide 7 жыл бұрын
Nice and simple, and another good example of what you can do without resorting to power tools.
@alexmosher8710
@alexmosher8710 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ryan - it's amazing what can happen if one is crazy enough to begin.
@crmusicproduction
@crmusicproduction 7 жыл бұрын
This is excellent, no matter what I have done, when I rip saw the cut drifts to the left, This may be the answer, I will try it in the morning, thanks and a great video, love it.......... Subscribed!
@EricRothman-cv2mu
@EricRothman-cv2mu 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Alex! Just ripped a long piece of cherry after your video gave me the courage to give it a go!
@vc20029
@vc20029 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information and advice. Will try on some scrap wood to get some experience.
@alexmosher8710
@alexmosher8710 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words, Mr Wood. I have been very busy with other affairs for the last few months, but I hope to have some new videos up soon. Alex
@briw8929
@briw8929 10 жыл бұрын
Excellently done. This is exactly the same way I was taught to rip wood :-) nothing feels better than doing a bit of work by hand, instead of machine
@alexmosher8710
@alexmosher8710 10 жыл бұрын
Yes, it can be a bit of work, but hand tools can free us from the limitations of our machines--while you still have them! Alex
@Ziachmusi
@Ziachmusi 9 жыл бұрын
Alex Mosher i agree 100% !!! more i know power tools more i love hand tools!!!...hand tools in most of the cases give a far better control!!! power tools have a lot of weak points, ...replace belts, bits, motors, special parts... a good well sharpened handsaw and a well tuned handplane give a lot of fun and satisfaction! greetings from Argentina!!!! :D :D
@Stephane1995
@Stephane1995 8 жыл бұрын
Just what I needed, thanks!
@512banana1
@512banana1 6 ай бұрын
That’s a clean cut right there
@danielbatts9386
@danielbatts9386 Жыл бұрын
Always nice to someone else using hand tools instead of machinery. I only use hand tools, even though it's becoming more challenging since arthritis has shown its ugly head. Nice work.
@sdjnwhyNZ
@sdjnwhyNZ 8 жыл бұрын
Hey! Thanks for that! :D Super useful!
@Ziachmusi
@Ziachmusi 10 жыл бұрын
Alex,excellent videos! thank you very much for posting! very helpful!!!...all the best from Argentina.
@alexmosher8710
@alexmosher8710 10 жыл бұрын
Glad to be helpful. Alex
@Ziachmusi
@Ziachmusi 10 жыл бұрын
Alex Mosher I tried it today, it works very very good! i never got that result with my bandsaw!!!! thanks for your videos!!! bye!!
@Ziachmusi
@Ziachmusi 10 жыл бұрын
Alex Mosher Ah! i forgot,which tpi do you think is the best for resawing? or is all about the kind of wood?..bye!!!
@alexmosher8710
@alexmosher8710 10 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I do use a saw to rip out pieces from round stock, but splitting is much faster Alex.
@laurentauriau3688
@laurentauriau3688 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ryan !
@4578simonhi
@4578simonhi 8 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks, I had a go a this earlier and it did not quite turn out as clean. Not a disaster but I can see where I went wrong from watching your video. All the best, thanks once again !!!
@alexmosher8710
@alexmosher8710 8 жыл бұрын
+Simon Hillier This is how it works--we learn from each other. Thanks for watching!
@ChrisBunney
@ChrisBunney 10 жыл бұрын
Hi Alex, loving the videos - thanks! Could I rip a piece like that using a normal hardpoint saw (the sort of one you get from a DIY store), or is the "rip saw" special in some way? Thanks! Off to watch another one of your videos now!
@philporada5655
@philporada5655 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@kitsurubami
@kitsurubami 9 жыл бұрын
wow, this is great, thank you!
@ryanzhao1786
@ryanzhao1786 11 жыл бұрын
Great skill!
@maineiachomestead7550
@maineiachomestead7550 6 жыл бұрын
Is that a 5 TPI saw? Great illustration that machinery just isn't needed. Sweet leg vise too!
@alexmosher8710
@alexmosher8710 10 жыл бұрын
I have no experience buying online, just be careful. Many old saws are kinked or otherwise abused, but if you can find a good one you will have an excellent tool. A safer, if more expensive, alternative would be to buy from a reputable tool dealer, as they usually have a return policy if you are not satisfied. Of course, good quality rip saws are still produced and you could find them with the better mail order houses as well. As to price, not cheap. Good luck, Alex
@nmssis
@nmssis 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. you would not recommend using a crosscut saw for book matching?
@dweisbord
@dweisbord 7 жыл бұрын
Any recommendations for rip sawing very hardwoods - for example ebony? Same technique or is there a better way. Takes me all the energy I have to do it :)
@muddyditchzhuangzi5275
@muddyditchzhuangzi5275 9 жыл бұрын
That is heroic. I want to be you when I grow up.
@alexmosher8710
@alexmosher8710 9 жыл бұрын
No, my friend. You want to be you--with a big saw! Alex
@wqpeb
@wqpeb 10 жыл бұрын
Good to see the master of the joiners bench still at it. Resawing by hand cannot match the sound of the 'music of the spheres', however it is the sound of accomplishment for the soul. The old transcendentalist makes do with the previous vise pretty well, however he admires this slanted one all the more. Clock cases need good benches and vises too.
@alexmosher8710
@alexmosher8710 10 жыл бұрын
Yes, I'm thinking that the slanted vice deserves a video of its own. As you know I like leg vices, but this slanted one was designed to solve a specific shortcoming of leg vices--which it does very well. It is a little eccentric, but that suits me well, as you know. Alex
@wqpeb
@wqpeb 10 жыл бұрын
Alex Mosher Eccentricity is a virtue.How else are we to survive? Here in old Ontario the Liberals now have us well under the thumb. Survival is all that's left. Time now for folks here to take lessons on starvation avoidance from the Bluenosers.The tables have turned!
@jaimeclifton9078
@jaimeclifton9078 7 жыл бұрын
What length is that panel saw please? Great video by the way.....
@MrPanohead
@MrPanohead 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Very helpful. Would have liked to see how the end would go, how to avoid pinching the blade and keep it straight for the last bit.
@alexmosher8710
@alexmosher8710 10 жыл бұрын
At the end of the cut, I realign the board so that it is parallel to the bench top, with the uncut end projecting past the end of the bench. I then can keep the saw blade in the kerf and cut down the remaining end grain. Works well. Alex
@MrPanohead
@MrPanohead 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to respond, I'll give it a try when it comes up. Never tried sawing wood in that dimension by hand before.
@locksmith1487
@locksmith1487 6 жыл бұрын
Nice nice nice! Very nice!
@sebastianocano3289
@sebastianocano3289 8 жыл бұрын
great video, thanks for sharing!
@alexmosher8710
@alexmosher8710 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for kind comments.
@SomeRandomPerson163
@SomeRandomPerson163 5 жыл бұрын
Impressive!
@alexmosher8710
@alexmosher8710 11 жыл бұрын
For many jobs, less is more! Thanks, Alex
@slzckboy
@slzckboy 9 жыл бұрын
thank you
@DmnSpawn1
@DmnSpawn1 10 жыл бұрын
Is that a wooden step vice? and I must know how to make one for my shop! You should do a video on it if it is and tells us it's real name etc.
@IanCoreyFe
@IanCoreyFe 10 жыл бұрын
I'm in the market for a decent hand rip saw. I have an all-purpose handsaw now, but find it to feel dull and steering with the grain. There's nothing I would buy on the shelf at Home Depot; I'll likely get it shipped free from Amazon. The selection there ranges from $13-$150. Many are not labelled "rip." I'd appreciate any advice. Thanks -Ian.
@crmusicproduction
@crmusicproduction 7 жыл бұрын
Alex Mosher, may I take this opportunity to send you a massive big jumbo size thankyou. You see, I have had the problem for about 3 bloody years, the problem being cutting/resawing straight, I bough all kinds of things to help, jigs, sawing aids, you name it! No kidding you, after watching this video and doing as you said, guess what, a miracle has happened, I can now bloomin cut straight at long last. And now I am re-sawing everything, but using this technique I can now even cross cut straight too. New doors have opened. My weapon of choice btw way is a Ryoba Japanese saw, now I have this new skill the ryoba cuts beautifully! Thanks again and greetings from the UK.
@7tqpbnvh7tqpbnvh77
@7tqpbnvh7tqpbnvh77 7 жыл бұрын
you should've just bought a band saw.
@srak1875
@srak1875 6 жыл бұрын
Ian Kyle go buy a dictionary and look up the word artisan - you just might find something to aspire to.
@jeffnovak2565
@jeffnovak2565 9 жыл бұрын
do you file your own saws too? if so how often would you have to resharpen with this kind of work?
@alexmosher8710
@alexmosher8710 9 жыл бұрын
An old carpenter once asked me if I filed my own saws, or did I just 'file at them.' I do sharpen my own saws, but I'm no expert at it. When sawing gets to be hard work, your saw is dull! Thanks for the question, Jeff. --Alex
@MaghoxFr
@MaghoxFr 8 жыл бұрын
this was great
@howardtrott1289
@howardtrott1289 11 жыл бұрын
Hey I'd like to use this video on a hub page for demonstration purposes. Would that be ok?
@omightyyoda
@omightyyoda 8 жыл бұрын
This is a great video! Thank you! What saw would you recommend for this process? Will a Pax rip saw with 4 1/2 tpi get the job done? thanks again, this is exactly what I was looking for!! And great vice!!
@alexmosher8710
@alexmosher8710 8 жыл бұрын
+Jl Cuak That should be an excellent saw for resawing. Good sawing!
@omightyyoda
@omightyyoda 8 жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks for your vids!
@170166
@170166 8 жыл бұрын
+Jl Cuak I was going to ask the same thing - I have some thick boards I want to cut down for shelving, looks like I'll be getting a Rip Saw ;)
@Pro1er
@Pro1er 7 жыл бұрын
_"What saw would you recommend for this process?"_ A bandsaw! ;-p
@UFC1029
@UFC1029 9 жыл бұрын
Great video! I have a question though, I have a mastercraft aggressive handsaw, it says it has double ground teeth that cuts on both push and pull stroke, with 8 TPI, and the saw blade is 14" overall. Q: How do I tell if it is a rip handsaw? Q: And I find I can never get a straight cut, it always wanders off to one side or the other, I always keep my thumb up on one side of the saw blade, while my hand that holds the saw, I keep that pointer finger along the other side of the handle, so my pointer finger and thumb act as two guides, what am I doing wrong that I am not getting a straight cut? Sincerly, -The green nephew
@alexmosher8710
@alexmosher8710 9 жыл бұрын
Hi Greg, Not sure about your saw, Greg. It's probably a general purpose saw meant to carry around in a toolbox, and will likely cut both crosscut and rip. It likely has a lot of set which means that it will cut quickly but can wander off your line. Sometimes the best policy with an aggressive saw is to lighten up on the pressure, and let the saw do the work. Slowing down sometimes gets you there faster, just practise. Alex
@UFC1029
@UFC1029 9 жыл бұрын
Sounds great, I'll try it out and practice on some scrap wood.
@TheCompleteGuitarist
@TheCompleteGuitarist 6 жыл бұрын
I know this is a late response but I had a similar problem and I found a solution. I have two rips saws, same brand, cheap stanleys made in Brazil, I am English but live in Uruguay. They are different sizes and ages, about 5 years between them. The smaller older always cut straight. But the newer larger always cut to one side. No matter how I addressed the wood. Sometimes the cut would end up about half an inch out. I set the teeth so that it produced a wider kerf and gave me the chance to see if that was the problem as the blade often used to bind in the cut. It made the cut easier but it still veered. To cut a long story short, it took 5 years to resolve this problem, I found the kerf saw. I don't own a kerf saw, but I may make one, but, cutting a kerf in both sides of the wood will give you a better chance of cutting straight. Cuts that used to take hours and hours of careful cutting and guiding the saw slowly can now be done in a fraction of the time. As in Alex's video. To produce a kerf, I clamp a straight edge (usually an appropriate sized board) along the proposed cut and with my rip saw, cut a kerf about 1/8 inch deep on both sides. Then I can rip effortlessly.
@green_building
@green_building 5 жыл бұрын
Ive done this before it was really hard to do.. it was run away from the line and got cut 1/4 way before finish.. need a lot of practice, I think im gonna buy bandsaw .. im a half give up man
@ThaGlittersAintGold
@ThaGlittersAintGold 3 жыл бұрын
I take it this process works with any thickness of board? Say, a 2x6?
@peacebewu
@peacebewu 9 жыл бұрын
if I do this correctly, would the thin strips of wood be suitable for laminating?
@alexmosher8710
@alexmosher8710 8 жыл бұрын
peace bewith u Thanks for the question.The thin strips would not be suitable for laminating, at least not straight from the saw. You will need to clean up the sawn surfaces with a hand plane--then you are good to go! --Alex
@peacebewu
@peacebewu 8 жыл бұрын
well thank you for the answer sir!
@dickywalker6288
@dickywalker6288 Жыл бұрын
Make the new video of hand saw cutting wood board,uncle
@weihuang6165
@weihuang6165 5 жыл бұрын
i find this useful
@khat1397
@khat1397 9 жыл бұрын
Attempted this twice on scrap still veering off a lot near middle. I guess I need a saw like your or I'm using too much strength.
@alexmosher8710
@alexmosher8710 9 жыл бұрын
K Hat Lots can go wrong--dull saw, improper set of the teeth causing the saw to wander to one side or the other--or, as you suspect, putting too much pressure on the saw. Lighten up a bit and go a little slower, and you will soon see what is happening. Little things make all the difference. Keep the faith, and keep trying. Alex
@Crazylalalalala
@Crazylalalalala 8 жыл бұрын
K Hat try making a kerfing plane and use it first. its a like a small handsaw with a fence on it. gets you started all the way around the stock then with a bigger saw you can fallow the channels made. Tom Fidgen has a great video on it.
@alexmosher8710
@alexmosher8710 8 жыл бұрын
+Crazylalalalala I don't have a kerfing plane, but I have used a plough plane to cut a 1/8" groove around the board, but I'm not sure that this extra work is worth the effort, at least when using a handsaw. Maybe when using a frame saw. The main thing is to determine why the handsaw is behaving as it is. --Alex
@TermiteUSA
@TermiteUSA 6 жыл бұрын
A good way to burn off the tryptophane rush at turkey 🦃 time.
@sajidullah
@sajidullah 10 жыл бұрын
Job done too well
@alexmosher8710
@alexmosher8710 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@famvirious
@famvirious 20 күн бұрын
My brother, I am trying to do this with no vice and a dull saw. Please send God and all his angels for I am fighting a battle even Lucifer with the backing of his realm would not win
@bigboss4298
@bigboss4298 6 жыл бұрын
Isn't that resawing and not ripping?
@alexmosher8710
@alexmosher8710 6 жыл бұрын
Right you are, BigBoss 429, but resawing as a term brings to mind the use of the bandsaw, so I used a verbal tweak to indicate something entirely different.
@bigboss4298
@bigboss4298 6 жыл бұрын
Alex Mosher Ah, thank you!
@alexmosher8710
@alexmosher8710 11 жыл бұрын
Yes, a little common sense goes a long way. Alex
@johnjarvis8464
@johnjarvis8464 10 жыл бұрын
Sad.
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