Bargain pick up on the 2080! Have fun with them.

Excellent! Following this video I made two tracks that featured JV1080 sounds.

Same, it may sound silly but I'm so grateful to have been born during the era of the synth. So many great sounds and songs from those things. Modern garbage simply cannot compare.

The JV sounds are all over Metal Gear Solid.

​@@BristecomI mean, sample libraries are much more detailed. The issue is, I think they are too detailed. The reality is, next to no composer has the time to spend hours and hours perfectly configuring articulations, drawing in realistic expression, bow changes and stuff on strings. Problem is, when you don't, any corner you cut is painfully obvious. The JV/XV synths sound beautiful out of the box and can be adjusted to measure, definitely easier on the XV-5080 as it has a much larger display than the JV-1080. The sounds are very musical, that's something most modern libraries lack... musicality. Considering most musicians will easily be able to tell a VST performance apart from a real performance, it seems silly to me now spending so much on these libraries which never will be a real orchestra and each year a new version comes out and everyone rushes to buy it. I'm pretty much limiting myself to my existing libraries for percussion and whatnot but just going to exclusively use my XV-5080, MS-20 to make some new music. At least for mock ups I can achieve what I want quickly and then if I really wanted it ti sound better I could spend a few weeks mixing some better modern libraries to perfection but, as said, most musicians will still be able to tell it's not real so I struggle to see the benefit anymore.

Yeah, I just noticed the flute song at the beginning of Mario 64 was a patch on this when scrolling through the presets on the VST

It certainly is an impressive synth!

The JD-800 looks good, that is it. But is barely better than a Roland D-5. Is so limited, you can not sync LFOs to midi, it does not transmit/ receive CC control. I have it just because it looks good but is only 4 parts as well. Whatever it does, anything can do it better.

It's odd isn't it? I can never quite get my head around sounds going "out of date". OK, some go out of flavour / favour, but a good sounding piano is a good sounding piano regardless. Perhaps I look at ot all a bit too simply, but... :-)

@@MatusFinchus no you're not thinking simple at all, the problem with most musos is that they're obsessed with new gear thinking that's the latest sounds but mostly just rehashed patches and copies of popular synths from the past, such is the problem with consumerism and gear s@%!$. Imo the best way to use the 1080 is to process the sounds at mastering or pre/post production with good eq and effects, I use mine with various rack effects and pedals sounds as "modern" as anyone could think

​@@MatusFinchus I now also have a Roland U-220 and an E-MU Proteus/2, so now I have 3 rack modules.

@@MatusFinchus I'm with you, how can a sound be out dated? If it sounds good and it works in the song, so be it.

@@DanHomeAtLast agreed most modern synths are mimicking the old stuff, DX7, D50 and M1.

Great idea. I'm going to try this one day❤

Apologies. I don’t remember leaving that comment, or why I would say that. Must be meant for another video.

Ha whoops sorry Barry. Hope you have fun with it!

@@StephenTallamyMusic I am sure I will have no regrets. I should have bought one years ago. I spent a few years with a Turtle Beach Pinnacle with the Yamaha XV50XG expansion. Anyone remember this ?

I mean if your neck of the woods has beer… how do I get there?

Don Solaris is the man for Roland JV stuff!

Yeh it seems like the original JV1080 has the most desirable character, despite the others having the same source PCM and architecture

For some reason the expansion slots seem to have given up working, along with the PCM card slot. Very weird

​@@StephenTallamyMusic i had the same issue the card contacts can gum up especially in with humidity, a clean up with deoxit fixed the problem. If that fails then a factory reset may help

Eh idk, I can think of a fairly simple 6-7u setup that could at the very least do that w 2-4 voice polyphony. Not as cheap or quite as versatile as a 1080 but not insanely large or expensive and definitely more ~experimental~

There are so many modules these days that have 8 LFOs or 4 envelopes or whatever modulation you need in few HP. Same w VCAs

@@faycarsons How many can use any PCM sample as a sound source, and twist and wrap that sample in near-endless ways? That's the magic of not only the Roland PCM synths, but also the ones from Yamaha and Korg, the Motif-series and the M1 descendants - the possibilities that open up with tens of thousands of PCM samples + a full synth engine to work with...

Definitely give it a go! It was lots of fun getting the JV1080 up and running properly again

The XR was one of my first hardware modules after the EMU stuff. I recently cranked it up. Use midi cables in and out instead of the old USB driver. Also works with the editor still via midi.

I wouldn't consider the Fantom-XR to be a successer. It's infact a completely different set of sounds. There's maybe only 2 percent of XV sounds in there. The Integra-7 is actually the successer that has that has the JV/XV engine. I own both the Fantom-XR and Integra-7. There are many sounds in the Fantom-XR that I still use that aren't in the Integra-7. The Integra-7 is really a re-issued XV-5080 module.

Have fun with it!

Nice! Definitely worth trying out the editor with it to get familiar with how the synth engine works. And I can certainly recommend some of the modern patches you can get for it

Nice one! Hope it bring back good memories on it’s return. Definitely have a look at the patch packs from LFO Store and Don Solaris.

@@StephenTallamyMusic Thanks! I shall indeed check those out. 👍

Out of interest, how much did it set you back in 1998??

@@lewisgibbs6861 I *think* it was around £899. Although my memory is a bit hazy on that now. Hehe.

@@lewisgibbs6861 I would have to go hunting for the manual and see if I kept the invoice in it. Certainly a lot more than £240!

Amazing stuff. Can’t wait to hear the results! The Korg M1 was the workstation I dreamed of but never bought so I have been tempted to find a M1R. Enjoy rediscovering these synths!

@@StephenTallamyMusic Stephen you can have mine for a tenor donated to the artists fund via pianobook. I will check it will power up today and advise, might need new battery.

@@Limbiclesion wow! I would be more than happy to donate.

Yeah that display can make a huge difference!

If you haven’t already, I would highly recommend getting the LFO Store patches for the JV1080 - they are really well programmed and bring it a modern character that’s really good

An excellent lockdown purchase!

Whilst I didn’t sell my JV1080, it has been abandoned for a while and now it is like rediscovering an old friend!

A legendary synth that lives on!

I have certainly enjoyed using this in my workflow, even if I digitally convert as some point to deal in just audio. Look forward to hearing about your rack mounted adventures!

@@StephenTallamyMusic , it will be a time I coming but some day. Take care and all the best to you, Egmont

Plus no latency! That's the key I think.

I was tempted to sell mine a few years ago but I’m glad I held onto it. I used it recently in two tracks that have been accepted into a production library!

@@StephenTallamyMusic in a way. I regretted selling all my synths back in the day but the proceeds were used for a house deposit and I've now got way more flexibility and a much more compact set up with my imac running Logic and Protools stuffed full of third party plug ins. I'll soon be ditching Protools because of Avid's corporate greed with their rip off subscription service that isn't a service!

Have fun!

@@StephenTallamyMusic working out the controls LOL good thing that Jv Xp is there, a great tool. Im using a GI-10 and GK-2A with JV1080

Fingers crossed. There are deals to be had if you keep watching eBay etc

Nice! I didn’t know that was available

I also have XP-30 with JV-1080. I use it mainly for R&B music, some great patches.

@@e-maestro Nice! I tried the JV-XP editor app on my Mac but it was pretty buggy. I couldn't get it to see any of my other banks or cards, just the general midi ones.

An incredible synth

I lot of the Omnisphere sounds came from quite a bit of Roland vintage hardware esp the JD-990 as the building block. I think the Integra-7 is more closer to the Omnisphere equivalent given that its still in production today. It combines most of all of Roland's history in one sound module. It has every sound of the JV/XV series plus all 12 SRX Expansion sounds onboard, plus the modern Super Natural Jupiter 80 sounds, and many patches from the Jupiter and JD-990. That's over 6000 sounds in one box!

Get them all? 😀

Awesome! It’s been great fun playing with it again and the JV-XP Editor plus modern patches have really inspired me.

Good shout!

It is incredible that it still holds so much inspiration!

It’s a great part of Roland’s approach to blending sampling and synths!

Pretty much every Roland PCM-based synth engine since the LA-synthesis of the D-50 is set up in the same general way - Each "tone" is effectively its own synth, with patches being created by layering the different tones. That's the part where a lot of people get confused with Roland synths in general - thinking they are programming a "single" synth when creating a patch, when they are really programming several at the same time. Once you get your head around that it can really unlock the power of these synths, even the earlier models like the JV or D-Series.

Yeah lots of dance, trance and electronic music has this plus the Korg M1!

@@StephenTallamyMusic Just been playing with the Korg M1 and it has some really good sounds just like the Roland D50.

@@darrenhirst9900 nice one. Did you check out my video on it?

@@StephenTallamyMusic I watched a lot of your videos. All good good videos.

@@darrenhirst9900 great stuff … glad you enjoyed!

I personally don't store my custom patches inside the unit. I use the preset patches as a base to create custom patches just by changing the waveforms and tweaking a few other parameters. I write all my custom parameters on paper, what patch I used and the waveforms. I do the same thing with my Emu Proteus 2 because I don't want to overwrite any of the presets.

Thanks for watching!

Listen to legowelt tracks, he has a lot with old synths and also with 2080's

Thanks for watching Richard!

Thanks for watching

Certainly glad I held onto mine

Nice! Where is it?

@@StephenTallamyMusic My replies with links are automaticly removed 😞 so I don´t know how to point you in the right direction - but it is at my Softsound webpage and there is a link on my channel 🙂

Amazing still working today!

Yeh - the whole midi environment really has lost favour to the virtual synth/sampler world. Perhaps the interest in modular synths may drive things back a little more towards midi/CV.

@@StephenTallamyMusic Testing the Editor/Librarian from @SoundQuestInc is on my list of nerdy things to do. Logic's MIDI environment is very powerful for some things and absurdly inadequate for others. While I cobbled together a script to change patches with the MIDI Processor Plugin I can not get it to change banks.

@@Voxrobot let me know how the nerding goes!

Yup! I use my MPC Live to sequence my beloved JV-1010. It works well!

It beggars belief that Roland didn't simply bite the bullet and add 3 insert fx and 8 x expansion into the XP80 that has the large LCD and hardware.

@@madness8556 very true..

@@bradleylinemihler I would have bought an XP80 if it was a true keyboard workstation version of the JV2080 with 3 x insert fx and 8 x expansion slots. I bought a Korg Trinity Plus and didn't look back.

Good Choice !

I guess really that depends on what you want to use it for. Out of the box there are lots of sounds that are very 1990s (which might be what you need), but if you are willing to spend some time building your own patches (or buy some sound sets) it can be quite an inspiring alternative to an in the box synth.

Well, I do ambient styled house, lots of nice pads in the 1080. It also has some pretty good drums too. I may consider it then :)

@@arpmuless_official if you like ambient synth the definitely the LFO.store patches should be on your shopping list if you get a 1080! Check out their demos on the link in the description

@@StephenTallamyMusic yes I've seen them, so cool. Though if I use hardware in my music, I usually take sounds that can be recognized from an instrument. Like you described here with the Bass Pizz patch on the 1080 used on many house records.

1. You can alter the user banks and also insert a data card into the front to save more. Expansion cards can’t be overwritten but you can create user banks from their sounds. 2. It’s the best free one I’ve found! 3. I don’t really know much about these devices. Hopefully they pass through all Midi including sysex

Well you certainly seem to know you’re way round the front panel Don. Love your FAQ on the JV range - I enjoyed reading it whilst researching for this video.

When I first got mine the presets were pretty much all I needed and so I never really took the time to learn to program it. I’ve enjoyed returning to look at it again now. My challenge with the menu system is it can be hard to visualise the whole patch at once, which is why I liked the editor.

@@StephenTallamyMusic It does take some getting used to, trying to imagine what a full patch can sound like only in your head, but it's well worth the effort. Even the 80's LA-series, the D-50 and all it's little brothers, are still very capable synths when programmed properly.

Ha yes, I’m not sure what price I paid for the JV1080 but it likely was similar when new!

@StephenTallamyMusic I have a JV1080 that I paid £200 for, and I know they were about over a thousand when new. Would be nice to have the Analogue synth card. One that I thought was the better one.

Wow, yes I can’t believe I made this video two years ago! Thanks for watching.

@@StephenTallamyMusic Thank you for making😀

The LFO store stuff is incredible. That’s actually some of the patches I featured in this video. Need to try the Don Solaris stuff - his knowledge of the JV range is incredible

@@StephenTallamyMusic I have got a JV2080 and love it. With its 8 expansions and the larger display it is really a great rack mounted synth. Plus the new patches load into it as well.

Nice combinations - bet that sounds great!

It certainly is!