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5 жыл бұрын

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@MXALOVE
@MXALOVE Жыл бұрын
Here's a big tip for starting a flashback. Whenever one happens, just type "Blubublublublu" and then write the scene. This will keep readers interested while also letting them know a flashback is happening.
@cwfcwfcwf
@cwfcwfcwf 5 жыл бұрын
I think you would make a great college professor. :)
@ShaelinWrites
@ShaelinWrites 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'd like to be one one day haha :)
@victoriannecastle
@victoriannecastle 5 жыл бұрын
@@ShaelinWrites Prof. Bishop, what is my grade? :)
@phillipwilson8973
@phillipwilson8973 4 жыл бұрын
She really would ❤️
@leoswainbank897
@leoswainbank897 5 жыл бұрын
Also the climax can be a flashback So long as you're writing the screenplay for Memento
@FrancisGoForever
@FrancisGoForever 5 жыл бұрын
No it isn't you guy's. He--he just made that up.
@edmontonboy99
@edmontonboy99 4 жыл бұрын
Now...where was I?
@bjt7117
@bjt7117 2 жыл бұрын
thinking about my experience watching "The Untamed" for the first time... starting in flashback, coming to the present for an episode and a half, then jumping back to the past for another 30 episodes straight..... and how at first i thought the past was more interesting cause it was where all the conflict took place... but then seeing how all of that past storyline ending up *contributing* to the climax in the present time... Sometimes genius writing just be hitting different, too.
@justluc8556
@justluc8556 5 жыл бұрын
I’m not even kidding you, I was just thinking about the flashbacks I have used in my story and wondering if they are vital and how to use them correctly and then this video pops into my inbox. Magic. Thank you so much for your valuable advice :) I recently was really doubting my writing and writing almost felt like a chore, but after I binge watched a bunch of your videos I felt so inspired and have written over 10k this week
@ShaelinWrites
@ShaelinWrites 5 жыл бұрын
Ahh congrats! Writing 10k in a week is a huge feat, you're doing amazing! I'm very happy I could help :)
@justluc8556
@justluc8556 5 жыл бұрын
ShaelinWrites Thank you 😊
@loturzelrestaurant
@loturzelrestaurant 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShaelinWrites Do you have multiple YT-Channels?
@ShaelinWrites
@ShaelinWrites 2 жыл бұрын
@@loturzelrestaurant This is my only channel, but I work for Reedsy and so I make the videos on that channel, but the channel itself doesn't belong to me, I just manage it.
@loturzelrestaurant
@loturzelrestaurant 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShaelinWrites Ohhhhh! I was so confused, cause you are on multiple channels.
@victoriannecastle
@victoriannecastle 5 жыл бұрын
I was hesitant to click into this video, thinking I've read or heard about this before. But everything you said, Shae, is new to me. 1. Memory Trigger: Something that happens that causes the reader to think this way. 2. Chronology Tag: Three months ago, five minutes ago... 3. Use flashback in sparing. Storyline in the past should not be more interesting in the `present.` Just to add my own: 1. Describe the setting in the present before the flashback. And once the flashback is done, describe again the setting to give the reader a sign you're going back again to `present` 2. Past Perfect. Use had only on the first "TWO" sentences and return to simple past. At the last two sentences use past perfect again. It's what I always do. It's subtle but the unconscious will pick that up. As you say, easier to segway. 3. DREAMS------just trying to annoy. You should do a review of writing books,Shae---McKee's Story. I also recommend Plot and Structure by James Scott Bell. There is a chapter there dedicated to flashbacks and when to use it.
@jamesboshier7960
@jamesboshier7960 5 жыл бұрын
My eyes keep flicking to the Brandon Sanderson books on the shelf.
@val3b33
@val3b33 5 жыл бұрын
your videos are the most useful thing ever
@etharchildres3976
@etharchildres3976 Жыл бұрын
Some of my favorite examples of good flashbacks happen in A Game of Thrones. The first is when Catelyn Stark is witnessing a duel between two knights and is reminded of the last duel she’d seen with Petyr and Brandon, both people who vowed to marry her. It works because it’s extremely reactionary, how often have you witnessed something that brought back an old memory, not to mention its relevance to the plot as Petyr is integral to the current situation happening. The second is during a Fever dream where Ned Stark is recovering from a leg wound. He remembers an important battle in his life, but his memory is clouded, the faces of everyone involved are shrouds, it’s all familiar and yet otherworldly for him. This one works because the presentation of it is more as a dream sequence than a true to life flashback. Not to mention the dialogue involved is rich with subtext.
@AmericanActionReport
@AmericanActionReport 4 жыл бұрын
Regarding simple past and past perfect, there are times when it's grammatically correct to use the simple past within a past perfect scene. For example, you may say, "I saw him yesterday, and he said he had talked with you last week. He said you looked worried about something." Notice that I used "looked" (simple past) instead of "had looked" (past perfect). Once you've established the chronology as past perfect (which I like to explain as past past), you have a bit more freedom to use simple past tense in that scene. I taught English in Taiwanese schools for 23 years and found it more useful to give practical explanations rather than forcing the kids to learn all the technical mumbo-jumbo in their grammar textbooks.
@IloveItachiandGaaru
@IloveItachiandGaaru 5 жыл бұрын
getting flashbacks to all the other great vids from you
@silverwolfdraws9845
@silverwolfdraws9845 5 жыл бұрын
I swear, I was just thinking of flashbacks, then this popped up on my KZfaq homescreen.
@gianwaters5809
@gianwaters5809 5 жыл бұрын
This was so helpful, especially when you were talking about past vs. past perfect tense. I really needed some direction on that!👍👌
@everydaysam3547
@everydaysam3547 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve been wondering about this recently! Thank you for the much needed enlightenment 😁
@isabelbard853
@isabelbard853 5 жыл бұрын
Dang, I was just getting started on rewiting a story whose first scene is a dream sequence conveying an exact-details memory. Dang. Thanks for all the advice. Gonna implement it now! :D
@melodid5023
@melodid5023 5 жыл бұрын
Can you please do a video on how to deal with multiple timelines? Great video by the way :)
@sangria-margarita
@sangria-margarita 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I needed this so much!
@wrigleyextra11
@wrigleyextra11 3 жыл бұрын
this is such a comprehensive breakdown. Incredible.
@tomoliver2112
@tomoliver2112 5 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this 🙌🏻
@melodid5023
@melodid5023 5 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video about multiple timelines? Like.. one charakter and one story but happening at different times? Thank you :) good video
@notgoingtopost8795
@notgoingtopost8795 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so amazing my teacher assigned us to take notes on your videos.
@jacklawrence2212
@jacklawrence2212 Жыл бұрын
This is an excellent video, seriously. Very helpful. Thanks for making it.
@scottbrittain8098
@scottbrittain8098 5 жыл бұрын
Omg. I watched so many videos but it wasn’t until I watched yours that I found my answer! Thanks
@shamashezadi
@shamashezadi 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic informative video. I have lots of back story and flashback but this video and cleared the confusion. Love your videos.
@3polygons
@3polygons 5 жыл бұрын
I quite appreciate and welcome the new sense of humor touches in this one. :)
@ginalassandro6736
@ginalassandro6736 4 жыл бұрын
This is very helpful! Using in my High School Creative Writing course.
@fyn1985
@fyn1985 2 жыл бұрын
The advice on transitioning from past perfect to simple past for flashbacks is brilliant. I only have one flashback in my first novel and it feels earned but the wording felt clunky. This changes everything. You're a decade younger than me but I learn so much from you, Shaelin. Keep it up.
@AxleBoost
@AxleBoost 5 жыл бұрын
You uploaded this on the exact day I was struggling with this topic. I’ve been meaning to come back and leave a comment thanking you! There are several key scenes in my novel that take place before the present and that are given cursory references or shown through flashback. I know I don’t need all of them, but I decided to write what seems important out in full first, then cut down. Your video will help me cut things down. I’m pretty sure that, based on your advice, I’m on the right track.
@haileyn2862
@haileyn2862 5 жыл бұрын
great video!💗
@secretsuperhero777
@secretsuperhero777 5 жыл бұрын
I was writing a book and your vids are helping me a lot I hope it maybe publishes on JULY don't forget to read
@ihatemickiegee
@ihatemickiegee 3 жыл бұрын
your writing and your writing tip presentation have improved so much over the course of your channel! i already thought you were amazing a couple years ago, but watching a 4yo video then 2019/2020 it's really inspiring to see :) also, short hair shaelin FTW x
@laurapritchard8213
@laurapritchard8213 3 жыл бұрын
very helpful. thank you
@gamewriteeye769
@gamewriteeye769 2 жыл бұрын
You can have an entire flashback storyline if you use it well. Not only is there a present and past storyline, but they can be interwoven so much they eventually collide.
@susanbuckminster282
@susanbuckminster282 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@torbjornlekberg7756
@torbjornlekberg7756 5 жыл бұрын
I used a dream at the end of my first book, but I think that one works. Then again, it was not realy a flashback, but a fever dream wich blended many of the things the main character had gone through into a surreal mess. So I think dreams can be done right. If you see dreams for what they are.
@jo.k.4210
@jo.k.4210 5 жыл бұрын
what is your book called? want to read it
@torbjornlekberg7756
@torbjornlekberg7756 5 жыл бұрын
@@jo.k.4210 Glad to hear it. :) Unfortunately, it is not out yet and I wrote it in my native tongue of swedish. But, I will probably translate it to english at some point. If you see the name Blue Beryl, it will be my book.
@jo.k.4210
@jo.k.4210 5 жыл бұрын
@@torbjornlekberg7756 thanks, very cool, keep going! the climax sounds so fascinating and Original
@torbjornlekberg7756
@torbjornlekberg7756 5 жыл бұрын
@@jo.k.4210 Thank you! It is wonderful to hear such words of support. :)
@jo.k.4210
@jo.k.4210 5 жыл бұрын
wow so many Videos, keep it going
@patriciafaithfull6360
@patriciafaithfull6360 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome on all counts but particularly resonates with me one these: a book more than 40% flashback can't work (my current issue) and the hint that this can be managed in multiple timeline (a possible solution to my stilted dilemma. ) Thank you!
@nocturnus009
@nocturnus009 5 жыл бұрын
You should read Sacré Bleu by Christopher Moore. More flashback time jumping than quantum leap. Great video SB, Have a great weekend!
@RedWizardFox
@RedWizardFox 2 жыл бұрын
Same. I try to have 3 or less per book
@judywagner5856
@judywagner5856 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Really love everything except I love, love, love dreams, especially when characters share their dreams. Everyone pooh poohs dreams and I can't figure it out.
@kerver5722
@kerver5722 4 жыл бұрын
Shaelin for President!
@julianfantasia9033
@julianfantasia9033 5 жыл бұрын
In my high school English class where we learned about tenses we called it past participle instead of past perfect. I’ve never heard of that before.
@ShaelinWrites
@ShaelinWrites 5 жыл бұрын
They are different things! The past participle is the verb part of the construction, but past perfect is the tense. So in "I had walked" to the store, that's in the past perfect tense, but the participle would be "walked" since that's the verb. But 'had' is also part of the verb construction here, so it's the past perfect sense. I might not be explaining it that well, but you can google it for clearer examples!
@cinthiagoch
@cinthiagoch 5 жыл бұрын
One of my stories starts with a dream/flashack'of a traumatic event, and it was very accurate with what happened. Now I'm going to put some nonsensical elements, so it's clear it is a dream.
@annach109
@annach109 4 жыл бұрын
can you make a video about multiple timelines
@phillipwilson8973
@phillipwilson8973 4 жыл бұрын
Shaelin I just read one of your works! Your writing is magic, I was genuinely hooked by the end of the first paragraph. I just want to thank you for sharing so much of your knowledge and your experience. I have a question. I have a habit of completely absorbing my characters emotions and it makes finishing a scene very difficult. I will genuinely go through days of depression and as a result I push off writing as long as possible. How can I tell thier story without becoming consumed by it? They feel very real to me, and it hurts me to write what they tell me has happened.
@gosiab6871
@gosiab6871 Жыл бұрын
im thinking about using flashbacks in a mystery/criminal something like that, as a tool to show new points in investigation. I want to instead working on characters thoughts, cause its 1'st person in moment when its peacefull, the story is about ghosts that characters gonna see so its kinda maybie make sense hah
@zeryyyyy6835
@zeryyyyy6835 5 жыл бұрын
Flashbacks that I don't need I just write it as dialogue to somebody else because in all my story no shoe character is alone
@leoswainbank897
@leoswainbank897 5 жыл бұрын
Yay, right as my protagonist reunites with her brother, this will be most useful
@billstahl7785
@billstahl7785 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for great informative videos! This topic was also timely. Question - The plot of the novel I'm working on relies on one of the supporting characters telling the main characters about events from the past. The supporting character was a participant in those events. My thought is to set it up within a conversation occurring in the present, but transitioning into the past as the supporting character lapses into his memory and we see events unfold in present tense through his eyes. Is that a flash back or a plot with multiple time lines? Maybe it's something else? Any thoughts or insights are appreciated.
@justluc8556
@justluc8556 5 жыл бұрын
Bill Stahl Hi! As a reader and writer, I personally love reading those types of flashback. I think they are effective and built more tension :))
@carolynhong8586
@carolynhong8586 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this rich info video, Shaelin! Just a question, if I begin my story with a strong flashback(full scene) in forms of dreams in chapter 1, can it be ideal for the main character?
@srinivasansridhar5255
@srinivasansridhar5255 3 жыл бұрын
How about using a flashback as prologue (1-2 pages full active scene with dialog) before the story begins?
@ruriva4931
@ruriva4931 3 жыл бұрын
I know its an example of what not to do but I'm kinda interested in what type of story would have a climax that is a flashback which occurs before the exciting incident.
@Kasztan_101
@Kasztan_101 3 жыл бұрын
While dreams are a cheap way to give information about events they are a great device to picture emotional state of the dramer.
@SysterYster
@SysterYster 4 жыл бұрын
I have a funny situation... I kinda wrote a flashback *in* a flashback. :3 I realize now when I'm editing that it wasn't the best idea. XD But I really don't know what to do now, because the character doesn't remember that thing until the other thing happens,. Umm, like, my MC goes missing for a week, for tension building etc. When he comes back, he tells his friends about it. One of the things during that week that he tells about, causes his memory to come back and we get a flashback in the "flashback" telling scene. The problem I have is that the scene can't be shown in the right time when it happens, because we're not following the MC at the time. Nor do I want to show it too early (as in, when it actually happens), because it's a reveal of a certain character and that would fall flat if we already know. Halp!!! XD
@pierregaslystreams
@pierregaslystreams 5 жыл бұрын
A video I really needed today, so thanks Shaelin :) A question I'm so desperate to ask you, and to you fellow writers in this comment section; Any tips to provide on how work out an ending to your story? 'Cause that's the rock dragging me to the oceans' bottom, let me tell you. I just don't seem to UNDERSTAND how a story should/could end. It calls for a change, desperately since I'd very much like to finish ONE story before I die in about 50 years give or take by a paper cut. I'm not calling for a miracle. Just looking for guidance, a light source. What's my story? I don't even know anymore.
@ShaelinWrites
@ShaelinWrites 5 жыл бұрын
My recommendation is to consider what the question of your story is! This could be a more concrete question, like if the character will achieve their external goal, or a more subtle question, like whether the character will make a certain choice and why. Once you know the main question of your story, the ending should provide an answer to it.
@terryannthewriter5852
@terryannthewriter5852 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, My first chapter is mostly a flashback to tell the main character's story and how she and her mother who is her pimp got to where they are. The other 12 chapters may have 1 flashback in chapter 11. v I have a total of 13 chapters in my book with over 80,000 words. Looking for a good editor
@GrumpaBaggins
@GrumpaBaggins 4 жыл бұрын
In my current science fiction/Dystopian novel, I had started in the present with my 18-year-old protagonist being arrested and interviewed by an investigator. The rest of the book drops back into the past, first when the protagonist is 12 years old, then 15, and then 18, which eventually brings the timeline back to the present at the end of the book. The sequel will all be in the present time. Since over 3/4 of the book is in the past I went with the present tense to keep the reader active and used a timestamp to dictate to the reader the change in age. Did I mess up? I don't want to keep writing and find out at the end that I need to rewrite everything. Thank you for the great videos!
@mariamann8292
@mariamann8292 3 жыл бұрын
I think, you just have to watch out that the tension in the flashbacks is real and not depending on worrying, whether the character will survice.
@GrumpaBaggins
@GrumpaBaggins 3 жыл бұрын
@@mariamann8292 Thank you.
@jays5514
@jays5514 5 жыл бұрын
Yo half of my book is flashback it's 2 time-lines. lol damnit now I feel bad
@jays5514
@jays5514 5 жыл бұрын
nvm got thru half the video. thnx
@chloelaszlo3066
@chloelaszlo3066 5 жыл бұрын
I'm writing a story where a few of the chapters take place in the past but most of them (probably 80% or something) take place in the present. Are the chapters that take place in the past considered flash backs or different time lines? They're not written as if the protagonist is reminiscing, but as if they're happening right then (but it's still obvious that it already happened). Anyway, I was just curious if I should try to cut down on those or if they're fine as is.
@ShaelinWrites
@ShaelinWrites 5 жыл бұрын
Those would probably be considered flashbacks considering they're only 20% of the plot. A secondary timeline would have a clear through line, like it could stand on its own as a full story.
@chloelaszlo3066
@chloelaszlo3066 5 жыл бұрын
@@ShaelinWrites Alright thank you for clearing that up!
@Spidermanslefttoenail
@Spidermanslefttoenail 5 жыл бұрын
Is it okay to switch point of view when writing a flashback. My whole book is in third person and I wanted to write the flash back in third person but don't know if it is to jarring to shift point of views like that. Also the character is fairly young when the events in the flashback happened and would telling it in first person make the story less accurate since we are being told what happens directly by the character who is young.
@ShaelinWrites
@ShaelinWrites 5 жыл бұрын
Some books do it, but personally I wouldn't recommend it since it's a bit jarring (in my opinion).
@messinalyle4030
@messinalyle4030 4 жыл бұрын
So, would it be considered 1/32 of a flashback scene if, in the middle of a passage, the character whom we are seeing the story through at that moment suddenly--in their imagination--hears another character say a line? The other character being someone who is dead or someone whom the protagonist has fallen out of contact with--by choice or otherwise? Stephen King does this. The line is usually written in italics and it is usually either something that the dead person said on a particular memorable occasion, or something that the dead person used to make a habit of saying on a regular basis. If it is the former, then later scenes often keep referring back to that occasion in the past, and the flashback is repeated and gets a little longer each time, and we get gradually more detail about what happened, which gives it more and more significance in our minds. I was just curious if you had ever seen that technique executed and what you thought of it.
@messinalyle4030
@messinalyle4030 4 жыл бұрын
An example of using something that a dead character used to make a habit of saying, is in Stephen King's novel Insomnia, where the protagonist, Ralph, hears his dead wife (Carolyn? Was that her name?) say, "It's a long walk to Eden, sweetheart, so don't sweat the small stuff" in his head at regular intervals throughout the book. That was something that she said on a regular basis throughout their marriage. It was an element that tied the novel together and revealed a little something about their relationship--apparently that Ralph needed to be reminded not to sweat the small stuff more than Carolyn did, and she was always there to remind him. At the moment I can't think of an example of an instance in a novel when a character remembers one line that someone else said on one particular instance, and the book comes back to that again and again, building more significance into it. But I know I've seen that done in the past, and if I think of an example I'll come back to this thread. But, oh yeah, here's another example of the sort of thing that might be a 1/32 of a flashback--something from my own writing, which I might or might not edit out. It's basically the same thing as one line flashing back on something that happened in the past, which the novel returns to and fleshes out over time. But in this instance it wasn't a line of dialogue. It was a mental image of something that my protagonist saw in his childhood. This story would have multiple narrators and jump around in time, but probably at least half of it would be in first person retrospective from the point of view of my main protagonist (I was familiar with the basic concept of what that was, but the term was new to me, and I just now had to go back and re-play the bit of the video where you used it--thank you for expanding my vocabulary of writing-related terminology!) My protagonist would be narrating the story as an adult, but most of the story that is told from his point of view would take place when he was fourteen, and this miniature flashback would be referring to something that happened when he was nine. So, during one of the scenes in the beginning that take place when Toby is fourteen, he catches a glimpse of a bathtub full of garments too delicate for the washing machine, soaking in water and detergent. *quote from my novel, which I might or might not get rid of* "All of the clothes were varying shades of red, making the bathtub look as though it was full of blood. (italicized) A bathtub filled with blood. (end italics). I quickly looked away. End quote. So, that should make it clear that the sight of the tub brought back to his mind a mental image of a time in the past when he saw a bathtub filled with actual blood, and it should make it clear that the memory distresses him, because he looked away. It doesn't come out and say it, but it implies that he had witnessed a suicide or an attempted suicide in the past, and when I wrote that scene, I was planning on returning to that flashback/memory and fleshing out the details of the attempted suicide that he had witnessed at age nine. At this point I'm thinking about writing the attempted suicide out of the novel entirely, so I'm using this strictly for the purposes of an example of the kind of flashback I was talking about.
@user-vt3zd6ej7l
@user-vt3zd6ej7l 4 жыл бұрын
تكلم بهدو جاء
@theonetruedonut
@theonetruedonut 5 жыл бұрын
she hates when the flashbacks are cooler than the present. Well then, she would despise Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild. The takes in a post-apocalyptic world but the player slowly learns the events of the past.
@rodschmidt8952
@rodschmidt8952 4 жыл бұрын
But then is it true that your more interesting story takes place in the past?
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