Using Banned Cards in Kitchen Table Magic - Letting the Weird Shine.

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Jake Rowley

Jake Rowley

Ай бұрын

Hi, my name is Jake and I think that casual magic gets a bad rap for essentially being a watered down version of more competitive formats. If anything, without ban lists and format set restrictions, casual magic should be the most powerful decks around. If we take it a step further, you could even build decks that would be impossible in any period in history by using silver bordered cards and other cards with ante. Today I want to explore using banned cards in your casual games and pushing the boundaries of what you can do in Magic's most expansive "format." If you also have a love for powerful casual magic, pull up a chair, have a seat at the table, and let's talk games.
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@gulgothica
@gulgothica Ай бұрын
I play a lot of Un-cards in my decks. I usually mention it and if I forget I mention when I draw them. People rarely have problems with them. They’re fun. They’re weird. I love them :)
@TheFirstJake
@TheFirstJake Ай бұрын
Oh absolutely. Lots of people just want to play for fun. Which cards are your favorite to run in mixed un/non-un decks?
@gulgothica
@gulgothica Ай бұрын
I have a Battle of Wits deck with Claire d’Loon as the Commander. She makes all tokens be treated as cards. Make lots of tokens, shuffle them into the deck, win! The funniest game ended up with some quarter of a million (virtual) cards in the deck after duplication of a Toxrill…
@gulgothica
@gulgothica Ай бұрын
I love Booster Tutor and Summon the Pack. They’re rarely terribly powerful, but always fun to pull off. I keep Ikoria boosters on hand for the latter ;)
@TheFirstJake
@TheFirstJake Ай бұрын
That is awesome. I've always been curious, if you're shuffling tons of tokens into your deck, how do you handle shuffling? Do you have hundreds of sleeved treasure tokens?
@TheFirstJake
@TheFirstJake Ай бұрын
That sounds like the right kind of miserable right there. I love it.
@Dimitar_Tsanev
@Dimitar_Tsanev Ай бұрын
I'm all for being able to play anything but cards that people just feel absolutely miserable playing against. And as long as the players at the table are fine with it, I think basically any card should be ok.
@TheFirstJake
@TheFirstJake Ай бұрын
True. Frankly there’s enough unbanned cards that make playing miserable.
@pjgoldstein6562
@pjgoldstein6562 Ай бұрын
There what is a guy that I played with who didn't like it when people argued against the ban list, so he started playing with a "banning is good" deck where he would put jeweled bird and contract below into his deck. At the start of the game he would remove them as per stated ante rules, thus leaving 97 cards in the 99. Some bans are good.
@TheFirstJake
@TheFirstJake Ай бұрын
That's really funny. 1,000 iq play.
@Appledirt
@Appledirt Ай бұрын
There's a lot of silver bordered cards that would be great fun. I don't see why I shouldn't be able to make a Fluttershy "Big Fluffy Tails" tribal deck
@TheFirstJake
@TheFirstJake Ай бұрын
You know I have to say the My Little Pony cards really walked the line between being playable and not working within traditional magic rules. I agree you could do some really interesting things with Fluttershy. Let me know if you put together a list.
@MrGodBender
@MrGodBender Ай бұрын
my favourite is Entirely Normal Armchair, it's fun when you just randomly pull it out, but in reality it's just a sub-optimal removal... so i doubt anyone would complain if you played it even outside of your playgroup
@TheFirstJake
@TheFirstJake Ай бұрын
That's awesome. I would absolutely allow that. It makes me want to make a "hidden objects" deck with cheaty face and friends. I hadn't thought of Entirely Normal Armchair like that. It's essentially an Immolating Glare with split second.
@WIBYTIEDH
@WIBYTIEDH Ай бұрын
My friends and I used to keep a copy of Cheatyface in our wallets. It made the games hilarious
@TheFirstJake
@TheFirstJake Ай бұрын
That’s great! Been loving your commander takedowns btw.
@WIBYTIEDH
@WIBYTIEDH Ай бұрын
@@TheFirstJake appreciate it !
@ardentdino7299
@ardentdino7299 Ай бұрын
I'm running sword of dnd in my Galea Kindler of Hope commander deck, she's a dnd character herself and no one had any problems with it the card is very tame compared to some standard legal equipment.
@TheFirstJake
@TheFirstJake Ай бұрын
Oh man that flavor is great. Do you play with actual gold dragons or do you color them something else for gameplay?
@ardentdino7299
@ardentdino7299 Ай бұрын
@@TheFirstJake we usually treat it as a white 4/4 dragon creature token, but the ruling for the color of the token did not matter that much , only for protection and some anthem effects
@TupahTupah1
@TupahTupah1 Ай бұрын
I have a friend who has a 12 post deck with a playset of sol ring in it.
@TheFirstJake
@TheFirstJake Ай бұрын
Well that sounds terrifying. Incoming 16 post with MH3!
@gtfawaynotnow
@gtfawaynotnow Ай бұрын
@ Jake one silver border card I think would be neat to mess with and not even broken in my opinion is ‘Grusilda, Monster Masher’ but it would be totally jank tho. One would think it is broken but it seems like too many steps and too few cards to find especially in a 100 card singleton type format. Another legit banned card that I think should be unbanned due to power creep is ‘recurring nightmare’. I believe WOTC has already made a “functional reprint” of it in the upcoming mh3 set. Not sure if you have ever seen the art on the original but it’s worth checking out. They say it’s tough to respond to but is it? I don’t see how responding to recurring nightmare is much different than sensei’s divining top…..aka you either do so when they are tapped out or wait until the ability is activated then respond? What are your thoughts?
@TheFirstJake
@TheFirstJake Ай бұрын
To your first point, I generally agree. I do think you can set up some instant wins with 'Buried Alive' though. Just look at some 'Necrotic Ooze' combos. I'd definitely be game though. Also the "Equipped creatures have Menace" is extremely strong and could be its own build. Second, 'Recurring Nightmare' is one of my favorite cards and is an absolute all-star in my pre-modern "The Rock" deck. The difficulty to the interaction is that you activate it as a sorcery so you have priority. Then once it's activated, it returns itself to your hand as part of the activation so there is no enchantment still in play for your opponent to interact at instant speed. This is different from 'Sensei's Divining Top' in that the top returning to the top of your library is part of the effect, not the activation. This can be useful in other ways, but does potentially allow your opponent to interact with it before it goes away. Even with all of that I firmly believe 'Recurring Nightmare' can come off the banlist ESPECIALLY with 'Cthonian Nightmare' coming out in the next set. Frankly half the banlist doesn't need to be there, but that's a whole different topic.
@martincoppa6417
@martincoppa6417 Ай бұрын
Play group has gotten far and away from playing games where rule 0 applies, and thus, it doesn't matter if we play with tournament legal cards or not. The thing is, they want to make the most broken decks possible so that they can bring them to a local game store event and assault unsuspecting victims with their shenanigans. For them, it's not that they can't use banned cards, it's that they won't be able to translate that over to new opponents without full disclosure. Any chance we can get a peek at that decklist? I'm sure my friends would appreciate losing to a My Little Pony commander. 😂
@TheFirstJake
@TheFirstJake Ай бұрын
That's awesome. Yeah I'd love to see a meta where people are really looking to push the envelop on what you can get silver bordered stuff to do. Decklist here: www.moxfield.com/decks/zFxw4ecvjk2vttzqEJkXtQ
@ronaldmorey3396
@ronaldmorey3396 Ай бұрын
I get people like to make their intro music a little louder than the video sound, it's stupid but I get it, in your case however it is so unbearably loud I had to turn the volume down to 2 then back up to 100 and rewind the video for the bs I missed because of having to baby sit my computer... The volume thing is outdated, you can just normalize the sound to be the same now.
@TheFirstJake
@TheFirstJake Ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
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