Using EcoFlow Delta 2 Max Power Station Instead of a Campsite Electric Hook Up (EHU)

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Herman Hits the Road

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6 ай бұрын

I find out whether we can use the EcoFlow Delta 2 Max portable power station to plug our motorhome into and use it as a EHU (Electric Hook Up).
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@utubetjc
@utubetjc 4 ай бұрын
I use the Delta 2 and extra battery to power the lights and a 35 qt. fridge at the cabin. 43% charge remaining after 48 hours. Very pleased with the set up. Thanks for your review.
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 4 ай бұрын
Wow, that's really good, @utubetjc 👍👍. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. I hope you enjoyed the video?
@stevezodiac491
@stevezodiac491 6 ай бұрын
We have an ecoflow delta 2( not the max ). Because it has so many different output types in one place, we generally use it a lot to charge smaller items. At the storage yard, we find it great for the energy through the hook up, to fill the water system, when cleaning it with puriclean, or checking the ( hook up ) electrical system etc. It also would power a pressure washer at the storage yard as well. In our campervan we use it to boil a 2kw kettle, which we find much easier and quicker, whilst at attractions etc to make tea, than putting the gas kettle on after opening the gas cylinder tap, each time we stop. It can boil about 10 cups per full ecoflow, which is more than enough per day and because it is portable it is ideal for a picnic away from the van. The longer we have had it the more uses we find for it. I think that the max is too big though, for what i would want to use it for in the caravan or campervan from a portability aspect but overall very, very useful !
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting, @stevezodiac491. 👍👍
@TheMotorhomeMiles
@TheMotorhomeMiles 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Ads saves me upgrading our Delta2 and expansion battery setup they kept us going for a month with solar charging 😉 Stay Safe 😜👍
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 6 ай бұрын
You're welcome, @TheMotorhomeMiles 👍👍
@y0rkiebar
@y0rkiebar 6 ай бұрын
3-way fridges when running on electricity are very power hungry vs a compressor fridge.
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 6 ай бұрын
I'm sure you're right, @y0rkiebar. Any modern fridge freezer is going to be better
@stevezodiac491
@stevezodiac491 6 ай бұрын
​@@HermanHitstheRoadWe tow our caravan with our campervan, as you probably know, the fridge in a caravan is rubbish in warm weather being an ambient cooling system but they are used because they are so quiet. We get around that with the campervan compressor fridge being with us. We have the benefit of the very efficient campervan fridge, without the noise because we are in the caravan. Not that noisy really, when we use the campervan alone. I always put ear plugs in anyway because of the wife snoring, which is a problem !
@victorkent768
@victorkent768 6 ай бұрын
Great idea. Please please use it if you were off grid and maybe running fridge and hot water on Gas to get a better comparison
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting, @victorkent768. I hope you enjoyed the video?
@Jasonion74
@Jasonion74 6 ай бұрын
I use mine in the caravan with the heating & fridge on gas plus the kettle & toaster are low wattage no problem
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting, @Jasonion74. I hope you enjoyed the video?
@davidmotoole
@davidmotoole 6 ай бұрын
I changed over to a Lithium leisure battery and had the chargers (Solar and EHU) changed at the same time. To supplement them I have a 2.2Kw generator that runs on LPG, so no need to carry petrol. Both my water heater and fridge run on gas, as well as electric. Whilst I would love to fit more solar panels, this does mean we can stay off grid indefinitely.
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 6 ай бұрын
Oh, I've not heard of a generator running off of LPG. Is it noisy, @davidmotoole ?
@davidmotoole
@davidmotoole 6 ай бұрын
@@HermanHitstheRoad Its a Champion 2200-watt inverter Dual Fuel generator running at 58 dBA, so not too noisy. I can run it from an external gas point as well, so its easy to use.
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 6 ай бұрын
Thanks
@fastcarsandbikes
@fastcarsandbikes 6 ай бұрын
Thanks
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 6 ай бұрын
You're welcome, @fastcarsandbikes
@gabriellobo25
@gabriellobo25 9 күн бұрын
Hey . Try to used the delta 2 max with 2 extra battery and have two 400 watt solar panel on the roof of your rv. That should be enough power on board to run all day and all night .
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 7 күн бұрын
Thanks, but the test was to find out how long we could last on one charge, @gabriellobo25. Also, I only had what I had
@katenash5981
@katenash5981 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for this, I've long wondered what size power-pack would work as a temporary hook up. I guessed that the fridge would be the issue. My van is 12 years old, my water heater is gas, so it would just ve the fridge I would need it for. Food for thought.
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 6 ай бұрын
Unless you have good sun then running the fridge off of gas would be cheaper, @katenash5981. Thanks for commenting
@aliceinchainz3003
@aliceinchainz3003 25 күн бұрын
u need solar panels in order to keep a charge on it thats what i use and if all else fails get a back up small duel fuel generator to charge it if its cloudy or raining but the solar panels will keedp that topped off.
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 24 күн бұрын
Thanks @aliceinchainz3003 👍👍
@GedandMichele
@GedandMichele 6 ай бұрын
Hi Adz.Interesting experiment. We fitted a 300ah (200ah would probably have been sufficient) lithium battery but rather than going to the extra expense of what would have to be a decent sized inverter as well, we use our Anker 767 we already had for short bursts of heavy use electrics like the kettle and general cooking.Hadnt thought about the boiler so will see how much power that takes to heat the 10 litre reservoir soon.We use the same kettle we use on the gas stove on a variable power induction hob at 1200w which boils 2 cups of water very quickly and most of the cooking.The leisure battery then does everything else (apart from the fridge) easily for days inc topping up the Anker.If you went down that route say with a 200ah battery, you wouldn't need to change your b2b/split charge relay setup. The compressor fridges definitely best on gas when not on hook up and dont use much.
@CherokezPittman
@CherokezPittman 6 ай бұрын
Hi Adz! Thanks for sharing your experience and recommendations. It sounds like you've found a great solution with the Anker 767 and the leisure battery. It's always interesting to see different setups for camping and cooking. Have you considered checking out the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series? It offers a massive capacity, powerful output, and fast recharging. It could be a handy addition to your camping gear. Keep enjoying your outdoor adventures!
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 6 ай бұрын
Thanks @GedandMichele 👍👍
@qwertysds
@qwertysds 6 ай бұрын
I have a 2nd Inlet EHU socket inside the van behind drivers seat so no mains cable through a window or door. 3 way fridge when running on 12V or 240V electricity is just heating up Gas flue pipe to run the fridge.
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting, @qwertysds.
@Martin37vg
@Martin37vg 6 ай бұрын
Another one in the allways gas the fridge camp . We have ecoflow just for the heavy juce items and it is fine all weekend and longer. Fridge , water and heating always on gas.
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting, @Martin37vg.
@markwilkinson2673
@markwilkinson2673 6 ай бұрын
Good video Ads , I'm no expert but a Smart charger should be very high on your shopping list , I've ruined too many batteries with my old unit , Happy travels 😎
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting, @markwilkinson2673. You're probably right but there are a lot of wires connected to the 25 year old charger and it's scary ! 😟
@fastcarsandbikes
@fastcarsandbikes 6 ай бұрын
Good video as always. Iv been looking for a windscreen cover like yours but ended up with one that is 2 big and doesn't cover the side windows at front.Where can I buy same as yours ,Thanks
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 6 ай бұрын
Thanks @fastcarsandbikes 👍👍. Our silver screens came with the motorhome when we bought it. I think there is a website called silver screens which do them
@davidmotoole
@davidmotoole 6 ай бұрын
Check out TaylorMade Screen Covers in Huddersfield. They make them to measure.
@fastcarsandbikes
@fastcarsandbikes 6 ай бұрын
Thanks David
@GoodnightIrene
@GoodnightIrene 6 ай бұрын
Interesting video but it told me pretty much what I thought. These power banks are ok as a bit of back up in an emergency but not good enough yet for off grid. I’ll wait a few yrs until the price comes down and the longevity improves!
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 6 ай бұрын
2048wh is a lot of power, @GoodnightIrene but it depends on what you use it for. Ideally, I should have put the fridge/freezer on gas and I think it would have lasted the whole weekend
@EddieHulme
@EddieHulme 6 ай бұрын
Your know, I really found this interesting and relevant for me. I have an Ecoflow Delta 2 Max and their 440w foldable solar panel. Having just , this september , picked up our new Swift 784, I am thinking of using the Ecoflow as a temporary measure to keep the Leisure battery topped up whilst I work out the solar and lithium upgrades needed for the van. Have found that despite claims made by Swift, the 100w solar on the roof is insufficient in the winter to keep the leisure and van battery topped up. Thats with everything turned off. I did like you and put the Eco in between the seats. Going out for a couple of nights in the van I can charge my eco at home ( I have loads of solar and 10kw of batteries ) . then use it in the moho. I was contemplating buying an extra battery for the eco to then boost my powerbank capacity to 4kw, but costing another £1000, am thinking i would be better placed to use that money to put towards an extra 700w solar on the van roof and upgrade the mppt in the van.
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting, @EddieHulme. If your LB is draining without anything on then there is either something wrong with it or the charger. 100W should be enough if you only use the LB to charge phones and power on the LED lights in sunny weather but charging laptops or using an inverter for kettles, heaters or hair dryers etc will drain a lot of power from the LB and then 100W might not be enough to fill it back up again, especially in winter. You need to calculate how much power you need and then buy batteries to accordate that useage and then add enough solar to charge them. If you're going away in winter then your consumption will be more and there is less sun.
@mpjkea2000
@mpjkea2000 6 ай бұрын
We fulltime we took a deep breath and had the power side upgraded. 700watts of solar on roof, 2x 135 amps of lithium batteries, 1600 watt inverter/ charger, b to b charger, solar regulator, now been off grid for 27 weeks and still at 80% we were fed up keep checking the batteries. Ps haven't used campsites alot already saved over £2000
@EddieHulme
@EddieHulme 6 ай бұрын
@@mpjkea2000 did you do it all yourself or get a company to do it . There seem to be such huge price differences between the lithium suppliers . I was thinking of doing it myself but now thinking of paying a reputable company to do the conversion . We go to events that are off grid a week at a time . Really don’t want to be struggling for power .
@mpjkea2000
@mpjkea2000 6 ай бұрын
@@EddieHulme hello we used sunstore to do the work. We have gone overboard but a good basic setup would be 400 plus watts of solar. A b to b charger, and 150 to 200 amps of lithium, solar charger. We went with a victron 1600 watt inverter/ charger ( expensive).
@EddieHulme
@EddieHulme 6 ай бұрын
@@mpjkea2000many thanks . I will take a look.
@nicholaspayne8151
@nicholaspayne8151 6 ай бұрын
What version off ELB has your Hymer got, we have 2001 Hymer with a EBL99 and that has Gel profile.
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 6 ай бұрын
Our charger is the EBL104, @nicholaspayne8151
@Phalanizer
@Phalanizer 6 ай бұрын
Could you not place a cable from the output directly from the ecoflow to the electric block of the motorhome? If you have solar panels you could charge your ecoflow directly with it.. I am getting one delta 2 max 2024 with solar panels tomorrow!
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 6 ай бұрын
Plug the ecoflow into the motorhome's electric block? That's sounds far to complicated, @Phalanizer. The easiest and safest way is how I did it in the video. Yes, I could have taken the load from the motorhome's solar MPPT charger and plugged it into the ecoflow but I just wanted to have a basic test.
@markevans6996
@markevans6996 6 ай бұрын
Fogstar drift works on the standard van charging system
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 6 ай бұрын
Those batteries might power the 12v part of the motorhome but it won't charge correctly using our motorhome's charger, @markevans6996. Thanks for suggestion
@markevans6996
@markevans6996 6 ай бұрын
If you check the website is states that it's a direct replacement for lead acid and is considered a drop in replacement .
@gregcope5565
@gregcope5565 6 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@HermanHitstheRoadwhat makes you think a lifepo4 battery will not work with a standard flood lead/gel profile charger? A good lifepo4 will disconnect a charger when charged. A cheap one could damage itself by overcharging. I think any fire comments are misplaced as they are probably referring to NMC (aka LiPo) chemistry which is very rarely used in “lithium drop in batteries” A decent charger profile will charge until mostly full (eg 13.3V) for longevity. Maybe a good video subject?
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 6 ай бұрын
Thanks @gregcope5565. I was simply told that the EBL104 Electroblok wasn't suited to charge any battery other than lead acid because it's technology decades before the new batteries appeared. If the battery has circuitry to stop it over charging then that might work fine but our charger will still be trying to charge it or won't charge it enough 🤷‍♂️
@AndersHed
@AndersHed 3 ай бұрын
Dometic Dometic RCD 10.5T, power consumption is 0,698 kWh/24 h,This refrigerator is 153 liters with freezer. almost 3 whole days with a large compressor refrigerator.
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info, @AndersHed 👍👍
@dasdasdatics420
@dasdasdatics420 6 ай бұрын
An issue I came across last winter occured during a minus 3 C low temperature when the alarm suddenly went off. I popped the bonnet and quickly disconnected the battery which at last stopped the din from the alarm. Checked the engine battery and it was showing 10.7volts. It wouldn't even start the engine. Despite the van being connected to the mains in the garage 24 hours a day. It was then I realised that the engine battery was not being charged or maintained by the zig charger. Anyway I got myself a Ctek fully automatic battery charger as the 2 years old engine battery already had a connector fitted. Obviously I didn't want it to be on constantly so I plugged it into a timer set to on for 6 Hours in 24 into the van outlet. I then decided to plug the van into a timer also set up for 6 Hours every 24. The result was the van zig charger was on for maintenance charging every day for 6 Hours instead of 24 and the engine battery maintaining charger on for 6 Hours every 4th day. So far so good and the engine battery keeps at least 12 volts average. Just an idea to save electricity and have peace of mind. Ps. If I wanted to be a bigger miser, I could plug both timers together and then the van and engine batteries could be charged for 6 Hours every 4th day. May try it. What's your opinion ?
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting, @dasdasdatics420. With old motorhomes/campervans you shouldn't leave them on EHU for long periods of time. This is because the on board charger will be constantly charging the leisure battery which will eventually kill it but your idea is a good one because it's not always on, if I understand your setup correctly. Draining the starter battery that low could have damaged it. Unplug your chargers and let the starter battery settle for a few hours (a day?) and then test to see if it can hold the charge. Otherwise, you'll be in the middle of nowhere or on a campsite and you'll have a surprising flat battery.
@dasdasdatics420
@dasdasdatics420 6 ай бұрын
@@HermanHitstheRoad It turned out to be just a natural battery condition that's caused by very low temperature called sulphation which is best remedied by using special automatic battery chargers. I did take the battery for testing but was told because it's only a few years old it didn't need replacing. The Ctek battery charger is a Swedish make and retails over £100 but I got mine cheaper second hand. It always pays to carry a good battery charger anyway. The reason I used 2 mechanical timers instead of a digital 7 day timer is because I've found digital timers can be a bit unreliable and stop working once the guarantee is up. I've got a spare leisure battery and I'll use it in my own DIY power generator wired up to a decent inverter etc. When I've finished all the other things on the list. Hm.
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info, @dasdasdatics420
@briankeniry219
@briankeniry219 6 ай бұрын
Perhaps the lesson is as much about 'what' you decide to power as about what type of battery to use while not on hook up. It looks like if you're off grid you really have yo power your fridge on gas or hae a compressor fridge. NB compressor fridges are very much preferred by the campervan community.
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting, @briankeniry219. Yes, compressor fridges are more power efficient
@KJPage
@KJPage 5 ай бұрын
Your fridge is a 3 way Absorption Fridge. They are very hungry on electrickery compared to a compressor fridge. That model is likely drawing 175 Watts on 240VAC when the thermostat cuts over. If you're happy not to have the gas option, you'd be better off with a compressor fridge. It's ~15x less power hungry.
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 4 ай бұрын
Thanks @KJPage 👍👍
@smc5155
@smc5155 6 ай бұрын
Hi. Why would you have a fire if you were charging/had a lithium battery????😮😮😮
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting, @smc5155. It could cause a fire because the 25 year old motorhome charger doesn't stop charging the leisure battery and we all know that lithium batteries can catch fire if they are overcharged.
@davidwilliams3743
@davidwilliams3743 6 ай бұрын
How are these recharged up when out of power.
@stevezodiac491
@stevezodiac491 6 ай бұрын
from the mains, 12 volt cigarette lighter plug from the van or solar panels.
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 6 ай бұрын
@stevezodiac491 has beat to it, @davidwilliams3743 🤣. The Ecoflow models fully charge in 1 to 2 hours from the mains depending on the model. You can also dual charge them with solar.
@daniel.d
@daniel.d 6 ай бұрын
I wonder if a DC to DC charger between original charger and lithium battery will do the job
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 6 ай бұрын
I don't have a clue, @daniel.d Thanks for commenting
@daniel.d
@daniel.d 6 ай бұрын
I have a B544 from 1999 and will try this , as soon as the weather permets. I bought a Dc to Dc charger from Renogy.
@wanderingwilcoxs
@wanderingwilcoxs 6 ай бұрын
Hope you disconnected the on board battery chargers
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 6 ай бұрын
How do you mean, @wanderingwilcoxs? It's the same as plugging into a EHU at a campsite.
@MakeDoAndMend1
@MakeDoAndMend1 6 ай бұрын
That's an awful lots a money for 10hours. Ps just had a message back from Jackory stated that they are not suitable for powering Radio Equipment. 😂 George.
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting, @MakeDoAndMend1. It just goes to show you that our fridge/freezer will need to be switched to gas.
@briankeniry219
@briankeniry219 6 ай бұрын
Lithium batteries are cheaper than £1k Roamer and KSEnergy 100Ah batteries will be a little more than £500 while renogy will be less.
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 6 ай бұрын
Thanks @briankeniry219 👍👍.
@martinc.186
@martinc.186 3 ай бұрын
The AC converter on that thing draws 1/3 of the capacity and it doesnt charge more than 1300W. And it doesnt even show it you. I was considering it for powering my cottage but if you turn on the AC converter on a full charge, the time left immediatelly drops from 99+ hours to 65 hours. WITH NOTHING PLUGGED IN. I mean if you leave it at your cottage, you loose 0.8kWh just for the converter with no power draw, thats crazy. And you cannot see the power consuption of the station it self anywhere. You have to calculate it each time manually by using the time and capacity left... i mean wtf?
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting, @martinc.186. I've had a few power stations and they all use up power when you turn on the AC. I assume the internal inverter has to take power even without anything plugged in.
@jxpat
@jxpat 8 күн бұрын
Makes no sense without solar feeding the ecoflow
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 7 күн бұрын
True but the test was to find out how long we could last on one charge, @jxpat
@kroozer5215
@kroozer5215 6 ай бұрын
pretty disappointing if i'm honest, i was expecting more than what you got out of it, for what they cost i could not see me buying one, i too was hoping you would have got at least 24hrs out of it.
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 6 ай бұрын
If I'd switched the fridge/freezer to gas then I believe the Delta 2 Max would have lasted 24 hours, @kroozer5215. It costs a lot of power to heat anything. So, it's not the Delta 2 Max at fault. I would have needed something like 5000Wh to power the motorhome for 24 hours.
@badgerdid
@badgerdid 6 ай бұрын
Just use gas 🤷🏼‍♂️
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 6 ай бұрын
Yes, if we used gas to power the fridge/freezer then the Delta 2 Max would have lasted much longer, @badgerdid.
@kennyrodg
@kennyrodg 6 ай бұрын
I just built a 280ah lifepo4 battery for under £500....Sod buying a ready made 100ah for the same money.
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting, @kennyrodg. I hope you enjoyed the video?
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