Using the Korg Volca Drum Melodically: Sound Design

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Using the Korg Volca Drum Melodically: Sound Design

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In which I'm looking at using (or maybe misusing?!) the Korg Volca Drum to make melodic parts. In this part we discuss the sound design techniques we can employ when building melodic sounds.
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@OscillatorSink 4 жыл бұрын

Question: Where's part 2? Short answer: there isn't one, sorry, and probably never will be. Long answer: So I spent ages researching and taking notes on how the pitch control mapped to concert pitch, working out what you'd be able to do over midi control, what frequencies were close enough to use musically, which ones weren't, etc. basically hours spent with a tuner and a spreadsheet... And then about 3 days before I was going to record the video, Korg issued the firmware update that enabled Pitch Quantization. So with that in mind, the video would just be: -Turn on Pitch Quantization -Hold down a step in edit mode and set the pitches you want on that step -Be careful about long notes as there's always portamento because of how Motion Sequencing smooths everything - maybe try putting silent / very short notes of the same pitch before the next note, but you're probably OK with plucky sounds, especially spaced out. And I'm not sure that's worth a whole video. The research is here if you're interested: github.com/oscillatorsink/volca-drum-melody-research?files=1

@Zanix_IV 4 жыл бұрын

There's a fair bit you could talk about with regards to removing the portamento effect. For example by alternating between two parts between note changes and designating them as choke groups, or motion sequencing the release times to 0 in order to effectively turn off a part or layer to the same effect. Also could mention using the slice feature to do drones by putting 16 level slices on each step. Still probably not enough to warrant another video though. Also can get quite messy too. Also, as you mentioned, the slight detuning of the notes can lead to some characterful sounds which aren't accessible with pitch quantisation, so perhaps there is still merit to the pitch mapping approach? I'd also like to mention while on the topic of detuning that setting the LFO rate to 0 and the amount to +5 and -5 on two tuned layers makes a nice pseudo detuning effect.

@oldasrocks9121 2 жыл бұрын

@@Zanix_IV Retrokits DUY for Drum on their RK002 takes on the pitch glide: duy.retrokits.com/6139e360-debf-40ea-8db6-9c8c97eb09e4

@Zanix_IV 2 жыл бұрын

@@oldasrocks9121 yeah but that only appears to be with an external controller rather than the internal sequencer. like I mentioned in the above comment there are ways to circumnavigate the glide but they can be quite awkward and often limit the number of voices you can use in a single pattern.

@DownloadJames 2 жыл бұрын

Mind blown. Already was loving my Volca Drum, now I realize how much more it can give. Essential viewing for anyone taking a Volca Drum out of the box today

@80Jay71 2 жыл бұрын

Which I actually did yesterday!

@mrgratis561 2 жыл бұрын

I got the volca drum as my first synth and was worried I was throwing myself in the deep end but I'm glad because I developed a better understanding about sound design than if I got say the sample first. Cracking machine.

@jedinyMartusak 3 жыл бұрын

Finally! A comprehensive explanation of the Volca Drum engine controls! THANK YOU!

@SyncdAlien 5 жыл бұрын

*"Hello"* there! This is quite interesting. And I am right with you, let's often misuse our gear! Push the boundaries and limits (which are, in the case of gear, mostly mental restraints) 👍 !!!

@OscillatorSink 5 жыл бұрын

Amen to that!

@stonedapesociety5628 3 жыл бұрын

Volca drum for me is the perfect synth for every level's musician..it provides so much fun and ideas! I love mine so much that I've just got a second one yesterday!

@OscillatorSink 3 жыл бұрын

Enjoy your second Volca Drum!

@stonedapesociety5628 3 жыл бұрын

@@OscillatorSink I'll enjoy my second every second!

@tonywharton5220 4 жыл бұрын

I love the Synthmata for the FM and DRUM. It must have been a lot of hard work. Thank you

@aptudo 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent tips. I particularly liked how you used layers with different envelope attack and release times to sweep the harmonics.

@OscillatorSink 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you, and yes, that's the tip I'm probably most pleased with myself!

@BubbaSatori 5 жыл бұрын

“A deeper understanding of how your gear works.” Bazinga !

@elasand9821 4 жыл бұрын

My favorite kind of Tutorial! immediately reproducible on this device and at the same time general sound design concepts of which the application is not limited to the Volca Drum! Subscribed, Thank you!! Really looking forward to Part 2, once you get around to record it.

@OscillatorSink 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. And yes, I really really need to get around to it!!

@mikeexits 4 жыл бұрын

@@OscillatorSink Also looking forward to a vid on percussive sounds on the Modular (again, if/whenever you get around to it).

@OscillatorSink 4 жыл бұрын

@@mikeexits oh god, yeah I have to get around to that.

@7177YT 4 жыл бұрын

I like your musings about your creative process beyond any particular piece of kit. Very well done, thank you.

@lucagunther5405 3 жыл бұрын

Best description ever: 5:59 “Even at thirteen ... we’re already getting very, very seasick.”

@LikeItDeep 2 жыл бұрын

You're a synth philosopher. Love your content. Thanks.

@OscillatorSink 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I'll take that as a big compliment!

@sebastianshuster5229 5 жыл бұрын

You approached this in a super methodical way man! Fantastic and super inspiring as usual!

@OscillatorSink 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for checking it out, glad you enjoyed it!

@fincorrigan7139 5 жыл бұрын

How can we not love the David Attenborough of sound design. Take a bow sir :)

@OscillatorSink 5 жыл бұрын

You honour me!

@fincorrigan7139 5 жыл бұрын

@@OscillatorSink It's flattery I'm afraid - pour encourager l'ecole de Volca Modular toute suite

@OscillatorSink 5 жыл бұрын

@@fincorrigan7139 I've got to get a few more videos out of the way first. Trying to work out how to best approach the Volca Modular - probably section by section like I did with the FM I suspect...

@fincorrigan7139 5 жыл бұрын

@@OscillatorSink Great stuff, cheers

@fisk0 4 жыл бұрын

Great stuff, I don't own a Volca Drum but a lot of this seems generally applicable on similar gear and gave me some ideas to try out.

@OscillatorSink 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent! That was my intention - so have fun!

@blankbutton 4 жыл бұрын

Good news: The new Volca Drum firmware supports pitch quantisation which makes it easier to play melodies.

@jaguarvssnake 2 жыл бұрын

Another brilliant video, thank you!

@tomfenn7149 3 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see a tutorial on you using the Volca Modular as a drum machine, as I'm more fascinated by the sound of that rather than the Volca Drum. :-)

@oldasrocks9121 2 жыл бұрын

I wish Arturia would do an implementation for Drum on Beatstep Pro like they did for the Sample. I also wish there was a well ordered curriculum for understanding midi deeply, I suppose it's a programming thing tho...

@vamoTilin Жыл бұрын

You could select split midi to 1-6 or one single midi channel on the volca drum...

@GuntarsReboks 4 жыл бұрын

Thank You for the patch editor, its amazing!

@OscillatorSink 4 жыл бұрын

No problem! Enjoy!

@THEREALDATALORD 2 жыл бұрын

I like to use the Volca drum as a complex oscillator going through other modular signal flow like through the MS-20 or Neutron.

@elialehman3052 4 жыл бұрын

Your videos/channel is great. Really appreciate the wisdom.

@OscillatorSink 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! And thanks for watching!

@johnchongsing7745 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant!

@phillindablank 5 жыл бұрын

Man what you are doing is incredible, keep up the good work :)

@OscillatorSink 5 жыл бұрын

You're very kind!

@jonnyhead 5 жыл бұрын

Another great video for us music geeks 👍👍👍👍👍👍

@OscillatorSink 5 жыл бұрын

My target audience 😉

@DerHerbman 4 жыл бұрын

Awsome video, thanks!

@MrPisster 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you again for this tool and the info.

@evgenylevchenya8734 2 жыл бұрын

This is extremely useful. Thanks

@robiebol 3 жыл бұрын

Whaaat, you built a patch editor for the Volca? Looking all over the internet for an example to control midi devices! Awesome work. Keep it up!

@chriswareham 5 жыл бұрын

Great tutorial, and I love the way your patch editor makes the architecture of the Volca Drum much more obvious. I've programmed some synth editors in the past for Unix platforms (in C and using the GTK+ library), so I'm going to have a go at a standalone editor for the Volca Drum. I mostly program in Java these days, so I'll see if I can knock together something cross platform.

@JaguBuenosAires 3 жыл бұрын

Hey did you make any progress on that project?

@gkeaoyrge 3 жыл бұрын

@@JaguBuenosAires Obviously I can't speak for Chris, however another Volca Drum editor is available for a small fee online. Haven't downloaded it yet but it looks really good. korg-volca-drum-editor.jimdofree.com/#cc-m-product-18563472025

@floriansteppke9149 4 жыл бұрын

Great tutorial. I'm looking for part 2.

@OscillatorSink 4 жыл бұрын

Since they added the Pitch Quantization feature there's not so much to talk about. They added it about 3 days before I planned to record part 2, after doing a bunch of tests and writing up tables of viable pitches and keys... So I don't think there's going to be part 2 now as it's a bit redundant I think?

@veeceeoh 5 жыл бұрын

@Oscillator Sink - Korg released Volca Drum Firmware 1.14 today, which "Added a new edit parameter to enable pitch quantization". I am crossing my fingers that this may facilitate melodic playing on the "traditional" concert pitch note scale via MIDI CC control of the pitch parameter!

@OscillatorSink 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, you and me both. Hoping to get a chance to try it tonight.

@veeceeoh 5 жыл бұрын

@@OscillatorSink The updated Volca Drum manual is currently only available on Korg's Japan support site: www.korg.com/jp/support/download/manual/0/809/4196/ The "QPI: enable pitch quantization (semitone)" has been added to the list of additional part parameters accessed via EDIT/STEP.

@OscillatorSink 5 жыл бұрын

Yep I was playing with it last night. I've posted my findings on twitter, Facebook etc. It almost sorta totally works, but I'm seeing some weird behavior...

@geephlips 5 жыл бұрын

Oscillator Sink sounds like there some motion smoothing going on. If I step edit the note values it sounds like portamento.

@OscillatorSink 5 жыл бұрын

@@geephlips there is, yes. Even when you're "locking" per step, it's still a motion sequence, so it will still interpolate between each step. There are ways to minimise it depending on what you're trying to do - I'll talk about it in a video soon.

@stephanklatt5440 5 жыл бұрын

Again: super helpful! Thank you...

@OscillatorSink 5 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome, thanks for watching!

@kostantinosmag2986 3 жыл бұрын

Great video thank you ....

@eightcoins4401 Жыл бұрын

Id assume most sounds would be kinda tinny and metallic due to how the algorithms for the drum sounds are? That could be useful for some styles.

@BPEMETO 17 күн бұрын

Thank you for the video! : ) I want to start with the Behringer's synths. I'll wait for the Proton to be released. And I also want to get TD-3-MO. I'll need a drum machine for them and I was looking at RD-6, but may be the Volca Drum is the better choice for that? It can do anything the Behringer RD-6 can do , right,? And much more on top of that.

@OscillatorSink 17 күн бұрын

@@BPEMETO the rd-6 sounds like a 606 which is a classic sound but...kind of limited. The Volca Drum has a far more diverse sound pallete.

@electricarchaic 3 жыл бұрын

God this sounds so fking epic!!

@38bogos 4 жыл бұрын

It's really an amazing job, thank you !!! when will we get the second part ??? thank you :) !!!

@OscillatorSink 4 жыл бұрын

Well since the update that adds a proper pitch Quantization mode there's not a whole lot to talk about now...

@38bogos 4 жыл бұрын

too bad :/ ... any way to listen too your music thougth :) ?

@OscillatorSink 4 жыл бұрын

@@38bogos there are a few EPs here: oscillatorsink.bandcamp.com/ But also loads of music on this channel!

@fig057 4 жыл бұрын

Part 2? Also trying to figure out how to turn on the chromatic pitch shifting on the unit itself. Cant find that info anywhere.

@OscillatorSink 4 жыл бұрын

It's coming, there's been some illness at home, and my day job has really been kicking my ass this month so I haven't had the time (or energy honestly) to get videos out, sorry. Regarding your other question, I posted the following on my Facebook page: VOLCA DRUM UPDATE, UPDATE Update: the pitch weirdness I described below seems to be something to do with using the Layer1-2 editing. If you're just editing Layer 1 or 2 on its own, the tuning looks good! Happy days! So, the 1.14 update for the Volca drum adds pitch quantization. This is a big deal if you want to play the Volca Drum melodically. Here are the details as I understand them after some limited testing: To turn on pitch quantization, you need to be in Edit mode; twist the select knob like you would for bit-crush, folding etc. and at the end you'll see "QPI" - turn that bad boy on! Now, for that part, when you twist the pitch knob you'll see pitches rather than numbers! (I have also now added it to synthmata).

@fig057 4 жыл бұрын

@@OscillatorSink No worries man Im a single dad, trust me I understand. I really love and appreciate what your doing though. Thank you

@fig057 4 жыл бұрын

@@OscillatorSink Can't express how much this helps. Funny how easy it was to turn on but trying to find documentation for that tiny detail not so much. again thank you so much and Madd love for what you do!!!

@OscillatorSink 4 жыл бұрын

@@deniwastaken it's not at the top of my list. Now that you can turn on the pitch Quantization I've found it hard to work out what there is to talk about honestly. There's a trick for mitigating the forced portamento, but other than that... I don't know that there's much to talk about.

@robbiewarin5460 10 ай бұрын

I've used the online patch editor many times before with no trouble, but just tried to use it (same cables, same browser, same laptop) but can't get it to connect to the browser. Any ideas?

@OscillatorSink 10 ай бұрын

Do you have a DAW open or anything else that's stealing control of the midi interface? Have you set the Volca to use a specific channel since you last used it? (you need to have it in split channel mode).

@TheZombo66 4 жыл бұрын

excellent video I love my volca drum for it being extremely unquie in creating new sounds I'm blown away with your editor by any chance you patch editor can become a standalone tool?? please let us all know cheers!!!

@OscillatorSink 4 жыл бұрын

If you download the source code from my github, it can all be run in a browser on an offline machine. The only thing it pulls from the Web is the fonts so it might not look so pretty is all. You'll need to download the whole site: github.com/synthmata/synthmata.github.io?files=1 I could make it a standalone Electron app at some point, but just downloading it and running it in Chrome offline works.

@enensis 4 жыл бұрын

Fantastic mate looking forward to trying this out. I was wondering if you knew any ways to get midi out of the drum?

@OscillatorSink 4 жыл бұрын

Hi there, there are a few solderless mod kits that clip onto some points on the board that give you a midi connection. I haven't tried them so wouldn't want to endorse anything either way, but have a Google and you'll find them!

@thomasvicanek-santaguida1066 7 ай бұрын

how do you play 2 parts at the same time?

@OscillatorSink 7 ай бұрын

There are 6 sounds on the Volca Drum - you can play all 6 of them at once (unless you have them in a choke group).

@multiKslice 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! Did you ever release the second part? I can't seem to find it

@OscillatorSink 4 жыл бұрын

I spent ages researching and taking notes on how the pitch control mapped to concert pitch, working out what you'd be able to do over midi control... And then about 3 days before I was going to record the video, Korg issued the firmware update that enabled Pitch Quantization. So that was a waste of time and now the video would just be: -Turn on Pitch Quantization -Hold down a step in edit mode and set the pitches you want on that step 'Be careful about long notes as there's always portamento because of how Motion Sequencing smooths everything - maybe try putting silent /very short notes of the same pitch before the next note. And I'm not sure that's worth a video. The research is here for what it's worth: github.com/oscillatorsink/volca-drum-melody-research?files=1

@multiKslice 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Didn't realise this update existed but I'll check out all your research anyway so it doesn't go to waste! Also thanks so much for all your great work! Your videos on the minibrute 2 and volca FM have really helped my understanding of those instruments and synthesis in general. Cheers mate keep up the great work and I hope you're keeping well in this trying time!

@turbotoke 3 жыл бұрын

Has anyone else had a problem connecting the Volca drum via audio interface and it not coming up on the MIDI channel pull down screen of synthmata?

@OscillatorSink 3 жыл бұрын

What interface are you using and what is shown (if anything) in Synthmata?

@turbotoke 3 жыл бұрын

Using an m-audio fast track pro and when I’m connected nothing shows up on the menu :/ Appreciate the quick response!

@OscillatorSink 3 жыл бұрын

Hmm, that should be class compliant. OK what OS and browser are you using? When you first went to the site did it as you for access to midi?

@turbotoke 3 жыл бұрын

Using MacOS Catalina , was trying with safari with no luck as well with Firefox no luck:/

@OscillatorSink 3 жыл бұрын

WebMidi is only supported in Chrome based browsers. So try Chrome or Chromium or Opera.

@dachipbag4405 5 жыл бұрын

Please, this with volca kick.

@OscillatorSink 5 жыл бұрын

Turn the "Bend" and "Time" down. Use Drive and Tone as timbre shaping. Turn on the sustain mode if you need to play long notes. Then it responds to MIDI / the on board keyboard and scales correctly! Done!

@SouthShoreSonics 4 жыл бұрын

Are not the drive and bitcrushing motion sequenceable? You'd think these items would be for timbre change over time.

@OscillatorSink 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, they don't seem to be - although they can be controlled by an external sequencer, so that's something.

@lorenz4712 3 жыл бұрын

Hey, I heard that the midi doesn't transfer different pitch's with an external midi-keyboard, is this true?

@OscillatorSink 3 жыл бұрын

That is true.

@lorenz4712 3 жыл бұрын

@@OscillatorSink it's bit of a bummer, I don't understand why they don't integrate this. Imagine how much easier it would be to write melodies... Though the pitch shifting thing makes some interesting melodies too, I find it quite annoying to constantly turn tiny nobs around.

@dankro279 5 жыл бұрын

Hello Oscillator Sink, I guess you do not have plenty of time to help your subscribers, but I`ll try anyway. For the last three days, I've been trying to get your online control software to talk to my volca drum, but it just won't react. My midi interface (midiface 4x4) clearly indicates the flow of midi data but the changes I apply won't have an effect on my drum. I tried it with chrome on my iMac as well as on a windows computer with the very same result. Midi data is being transferred but the volca won't react. Is it something about the volca drum's internal settings? Your software looks really helpful and I heavily want to get it to work with my volca drum. Any ideas?

@OscillatorSink 5 жыл бұрын

Two things to check initially: your Volca must be running the up to date firmware (you can get they firmware update from Korg); secondly you must be in split channel mode, which you can set using the Volcas global settings mode (the manual covers how to do this). Make sure both of these are as they should be, and if it's still not working we can try and trouble shoot from there.

@dankro279 5 жыл бұрын

@@OscillatorSink Thank you very much for getting back to me so quickly. My VD had already been delivered with t he desired firmware update. It also was running in split mode. However, I switched to single mode and then back to split mode again, just for a wild shot and that actually did the trick. As far as I can tell it's working now. Thanks a lot. You have just saved my weekend!!

@OscillatorSink 5 жыл бұрын

Weird, but I'm glad you got it working;have fun with it!

@littlefrog726 5 жыл бұрын

Are you Web MIDI developer?

@OscillatorSink 5 жыл бұрын

I've developed some stuff using WebMidi, so I guess yes? My editors: github.com/synthmata/synthmata.github.io?files=1 And my library to help other people build them: github.com/synthmata/ccynthmata

@littlefrog726 5 жыл бұрын

@@OscillatorSink Wow, a musician + syntheist + coder! Unbelievable! I hope you could make a tutourial about Web MIDI development basic someday~ Yes, that's what I really wanna for a long time, I've followed your git since I found the DX7 web editor! I wish there could be a tutourial about how to build a MIDI project at starting \ where you find the information about the specific synth device\ and how to mount/attach them to your PC etc.

@littlefrog726 5 жыл бұрын

@@OscillatorSink Especially the communication mechanism between MIDI hardware & PC

@OscillatorSink 5 жыл бұрын

@@littlefrog726 I am thinking about doing a video showing how to use my library actually. Not sure how much of an audience there is for it though (although I know I have at least one viewer now!)