USMC Johnson LMG at the Range

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Жыл бұрын

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The Johnson LMG was adopted by the US Marine Corps for specialist units like Paramarines and Raiders, and saw use in some of the fiercest island campaign of the Pacific (in addition to use in Europe by the 1st Special Service Force and others). It was a light and hard-hitting weapon that was well-liked by the men who used it. I've been wanting to try one for a while, and this was a great opportunity to do so.
While the Johnson is light and handy compared to similar arms like the BAR, it has substantially more muzzle blast, climb, and felt recoil than other designs that use the same .30-06 cartridge.
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@JugglerLou
@JugglerLou Жыл бұрын
So glad you are documenting the guns from Johnson. - Lou Johnson, Grandson of the inventor.
@r.shanethompson7933
@r.shanethompson7933 Жыл бұрын
Sir, you have a lot to be proud of. Your grandfather was a very innovative firearms designer.
@kevingodkin8299
@kevingodkin8299 Жыл бұрын
there are only 2 of these gun in New Zealand and Im proud to say I own one ,
@taggartlawfirm
@taggartlawfirm 10 ай бұрын
Lou, I have a US carbine in .22 Spitfire, (.22 Johnson) which is another of your grandfathers creations. Specifically, it is .30 carbine necked to take a 40 grn .22 projectile.
@Forewarned76
@Forewarned76 10 ай бұрын
Hey cousin
@Brawler_1337
@Brawler_1337 10 ай бұрын
Your grandfather was a true patriot.
@NPFeifman
@NPFeifman Жыл бұрын
Never thought that Ian McCollum would ever film himself playing with his Johnson.
@gordonhamilton5576
@gordonhamilton5576 Жыл бұрын
I think it is still someone else's Johnson.
@felixchaus
@felixchaus Жыл бұрын
@@gordonhamilton5576 Does that make it even worse 😂
@mpetersen6
@mpetersen6 Жыл бұрын
Insert face palm picture. That was bad.
@tigerpjm
@tigerpjm Жыл бұрын
Yes!!!
@nickysimi9866
@nickysimi9866 Жыл бұрын
the johnson lmg (let me grab)
@sebastianperez6124
@sebastianperez6124 Жыл бұрын
It's remarkable how similar this gun is to the FG-42, given they probably had similar design requirements being both used by paratroopers.
@messmeister92
@messmeister92 Жыл бұрын
It’s surprising how similar they are given their differences in inception. The Johnson, unlike the FG42, was not designed for paratroopers but nonetheless lended itself well for those troops-to some extent, almost better than the FG42. The Johnson was also designed for full auto with the capability for single fire, while the FG42 was a rifle first and automatic weapon second. Source: Ian’s first video on the Johnson LMG.
@timengineman2nd714
@timengineman2nd714 Жыл бұрын
@@RobotN001 And if you switched the FG-42 from semi to full, you could shoot your first round from a closed bolt, but it took a deliberate action (you had to pull the selector lever's knob out to move the selector) to switch from any of the FG-42's three selector's positions (Safe, Semi, and Full). But the FG-42 was reportedly a "bear" to hold in position when firing Full Auto from the shoulder, where it seems like Ian, after noticeably leaning into the Johnson, could hold it in position to a large degree. Swinging, more or less on the level , to one side was deemed a virtue by some people because it allowed you to "sweep" enemy positions/suspected positions with "walking" fire!
@wealthybone2990
@wealthybone2990 Жыл бұрын
Which was first tho?
@RobotN001
@RobotN001 Жыл бұрын
@@timengineman2nd714 You right.
@lorenzogiuliani9144
@lorenzogiuliani9144 Жыл бұрын
@@wealthybone2990 i think johnson LM
@tpelle2
@tpelle2 Жыл бұрын
I recently re-read my copy of "The Black Rifle" concerning the development of the AR-15. I was reminded that Melvin Johnson was, for a while, employed by Armalite, working with Eugene Stoner. The multi-lug bolt head of the AR-10, AR-15, and AR-18 was derived from Melvin Johnson's patent. Anyway, in this video, I also noted the very "Armalite-ish" recoil buffer tube on the Johnson LMG. So maybe Melvin Johnson is due a little more respect than he normally receives. Great video!
@angusmcnaughton4570
@angusmcnaughton4570 Жыл бұрын
That is true,he only missed the contract that the garand got by a couple weeks, ... his Johnson wasn't ready. the original Johnson automatic had a barrel that articulated back before unlocking the bolt, I didn't see the LMG version doing that. The LMG version was modified from an already manufactured Johnson automatic and may have lost that recoil reduction feature
@neutronalchemist3241
@neutronalchemist3241 Жыл бұрын
That multi-lug bolt had been already used on the 1912 Carcano semiauto conversion, for the same reason. To limit the degrees of rotation of the bolt before unlocking in a short recoil action. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oNigarR9uNKvdGg.html
@chrisdooley8155
@chrisdooley8155 Жыл бұрын
If anyone wanted to design a fixed-mag AR that you could load with stripper clips WITHOUT going through the ejection port, the Johnson would be great starting point.
@angusmcnaughton4570
@angusmcnaughton4570 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisdooley8155 the Johnson automatic I had was so easy to load , you could just "scrunch" a whole handful of ammunition right in , and you can remove the barrel with a round of ammo. Imagine if Johnson had gotten the Garand contract, and EVERYONE got one . No sore thumbs 👍
@compwiz101
@compwiz101 Жыл бұрын
@@angusmcnaughton4570 The action is a short-recoil operation, so the barrel reciprocates on both the rifle and the LMG (in the slow-mo shots you can see it move ever so slightly back as well)
@allanfulton7569
@allanfulton7569 Жыл бұрын
30 06 always surprises me when the first couple shots are fired after not shooting very often
@keganwallace8753
@keganwallace8753 Жыл бұрын
😁😁😁
@bp968
@bp968 Жыл бұрын
That's funny, im usually surprised at how light the recoil is on the garand considering the cartridges size. But that said i almost always bring out my noveske 10.5" AR with a brake too. Usually i shoot it suppressed so it feels like a quiet and smooth 20" AR. But if someone wants to try it without the suppressor its brain jarring in the extreme. The difference between an unsuppressed 10.5" with a brake and a 16" middy with a FH is pretty extreme. Leave the can on the 16" but take it off the 10.5 and it night and day. I honestly don't know how anyone could use one of those things indoors unsuppressed in a swat team or special forces role (even with everyone wearing hearing pro!).
@thatwasinteresting3319
@thatwasinteresting3319 Жыл бұрын
30-06 is a beast of a round
@Seasniffer69
@Seasniffer69 Жыл бұрын
Best thing about 30-06 is the weight range for the projectiles.
@capnstewy55
@capnstewy55 Жыл бұрын
The Johnson kicks hard enough to make up for all the Johnsons that have been kicked.
@daroldelio4752
@daroldelio4752 Жыл бұрын
I don't know why but I like all the side fed guns.
@marvindebot3264
@marvindebot3264 Жыл бұрын
Because they make real good sense for a 2 man crew. It makes mag changes by the second so much faster.
@pdxyyz4327
@pdxyyz4327 Жыл бұрын
Hate them with a passion. Had to carry a Sterling SMG. No comfortable way to carry it with the pistol grip pointing one way and a 30 round magazine pointed the other. Major PITA getting in and out of vehicles.
@daroldelio4752
@daroldelio4752 Жыл бұрын
@@pdxyyz4327 actually that may be a good point, I've never used one, but they are cool
@richardmyhan3369
@richardmyhan3369 Жыл бұрын
probably because they're all sick as hell. 😀
@KillrMillr7
@KillrMillr7 Жыл бұрын
How very Bren of you to say that.
@Viper2132
@Viper2132 Жыл бұрын
Johnsons are known for wearing down recoil springs. I got a new recoil spring for my Johnson rifle and replaced the original one which was a full inch shorter than the new one. It's much more pleasant to shoot now.
@jwseibert1059
@jwseibert1059 Жыл бұрын
Seeing the recoil from the first shot in semi auto I said that sumbitch is going to go wild on full auto. It seemed as controllable as a full auto M-14. The stripper clip reload option was cool.
@donnkelley6823
@donnkelley6823 Жыл бұрын
Stripper clip reload kinda like the M-14????
@markfergerson2145
@markfergerson2145 Жыл бұрын
Is it just me or did the hip fire look more controlled than shoulder fire? Hard to be sure without seeing what happened at the target but to my eye there was less muzzle climb and sideways drift from the hip.
@kennethstaszak9990
@kennethstaszak9990 Жыл бұрын
@@donnkelley6823 Except the Johnson came first so the M14 is like the Johnson not the other way around.
@AshleyPomeroy
@AshleyPomeroy Жыл бұрын
​@@markfergerson2145 It looks as if he was bracing the magazine against his left forearm, so that might have helped.
@clonescope2433
@clonescope2433 Жыл бұрын
Unlike the M-14 it does have a bipod though which is somewhat helpful.
@MrJrv1993
@MrJrv1993 Жыл бұрын
Another user of the Johnson was the 1st Special Service Force, an very interesting unit of American and Canadian troops trained for specialized fighting.
@mch12311969
@mch12311969 Жыл бұрын
I was going to comment the same thing.
@mattdickson2
@mattdickson2 Жыл бұрын
ah the famous Devil's Brigade
@deancarr4507
@deancarr4507 Жыл бұрын
Have a GI Joe from when I was a kid of one of these soldiers. Came with the Johnson LMG
@MrJrv1993
@MrJrv1993 Жыл бұрын
@@deancarr4507 god, I think I probably had the same one!
@Oblithian
@Oblithian Жыл бұрын
interesting.
@WalkaCrookedLine
@WalkaCrookedLine Жыл бұрын
Unlike the Garand and BAR, which had gas systems, the Johnson used a short recoil action. As I understand it, this means the whole barrel, not just the bolt, recoils back when the action cycles. I expect this means a relatively large moving mass compared to a gas gun, which may be why it kicks hard.
@CCW1911
@CCW1911 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, short recoil guns all have more severe recoil than gas operated, surprised Ian didn't mention that.
@thewalrus511
@thewalrus511 Жыл бұрын
I have a model 8 remington. The thing kicks like a mule, worse than any other firearm I have shot. Even 50 bmg wasn’t as bad. Having the whole barrel forced back into your shoulder fucking hurts.
@blackhawk7r221
@blackhawk7r221 Жыл бұрын
I shoot Browning A-5 humpbacks. They will kick if the friction rings are set up improperly.
@TheFanatical1
@TheFanatical1 Жыл бұрын
This is much more of a concern for long-recoil guns, because the barrel is part of the reciprocating mass that actually hits the back of the gun. For short-recoil firearms the barrel must necessarily transfer the recoil to the shooter long (in terms of the action of the gun) before the bolt hits the back of the receiver. Also, the bolt is travelling slower than it otherwise would because it''s got to use part of that energy to speed up the barrel, and then cause itself to rotate out of alignment with the lugs. A gas-gun might not even bother using this energy, but if you tune a recoil-gun in the same way it doesn't generate any more recoil than it needs to.
@kevinalmgren8332
@kevinalmgren8332 Жыл бұрын
For that same reason, I strongly dislike shooting the SMG 45 from LWRC
@24kachina
@24kachina Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see a side by side from a bipod prone shooting comparison of the Johnson and a BAR. Great video, Ian.
@senatorarmstrong7380
@senatorarmstrong7380 Жыл бұрын
Or better yet, the Johnson and the fg42.
@_ArsNova
@_ArsNova Жыл бұрын
Would it? The BAR would be more accurate, but the guy holding its arms would a lot more tired.
@TerryDowne
@TerryDowne Жыл бұрын
The 1st SSF actually used both guns side by side. It would be interesting to see what the Forcemen thought of the comparison.
@edm240b9
@edm240b9 Жыл бұрын
I’ve shot both. From a shooting POV, the BAR is the more comfortable gun to shoot. The Johnson kicks a lot and has a much stronger concussive blast. Yeah, the BAR is heavier, but it’s a smoother shooting gun from either the shoulder or bipod.
@jimservu
@jimservu Жыл бұрын
Interesting to see the Madsen LMG style of magazine used somewhere other than just the Madsen Family!
@mattdickson2
@mattdickson2 Жыл бұрын
even more interesting when you know that the Johnson was initially adopted by the Dutch colonial forces who also used the Madsen
@me.ne.frego.
@me.ne.frego. Жыл бұрын
I have a couple Madsen mags, argentine army surplus, painted green. The fact that the Johnson ones are single stack surprises me.
@jwcross6110
@jwcross6110 Жыл бұрын
With the through chamber top-off feature and the way it is setup with a removable barrel it’s amazing that you didn’t see some kind of redesign in a belt fed format
@nicholashodges201
@nicholashodges201 Жыл бұрын
A belt feed would completely change it. Delinkage mechanisms take up a ton of space by their nature, especially if it's for a cloth belt which is most likely what it would be designed for
@TerryDowne
@TerryDowne Жыл бұрын
US Ordnance did experiment postwar with several versions of a belt-fed Johnson (T30, T40, T48) but that never went anywhere.
@smokingcrab2290
@smokingcrab2290 Жыл бұрын
This gun had a lot of flaws. I would not have liked this if I was using it. If you'd want a belt fed setup on this you'd need a heavier barrel profile which would add to the weight. No idea what they didn't just do a standard 20 round double stack box mag. The single stack mag is ridiculous. And anyone thinking topping it off with stripper clips would be combat effective is an idiot.
@spencerwilkie4218
@spencerwilkie4218 Жыл бұрын
Always love seeing Ian play with his Johnson
@prazcuray1388
@prazcuray1388 Жыл бұрын
That looks cool, if this saw more action in Europe and with paratroopers it would be just as well known as the BAR
@Dougeb7
@Dougeb7 Жыл бұрын
I've always wanted to see footage of the Johnson LMG in action. Cool!!
@marcussilvabrombila309
@marcussilvabrombila309 Жыл бұрын
The magazine used in Johnson LMG, greatly resembles the used LMG Madsen magazines used on a large scale by the Brazilian Army until the early 1970s and today, seen in some Brazilian police forces.
@MandoWookie
@MandoWookie Жыл бұрын
Still a cool looking gun. Just that retro-futuristic feel. Like the Savage autopistols.
@joshtiscareno1312
@joshtiscareno1312 Жыл бұрын
It's a steampunk vibe, for sure.
@stephens2241
@stephens2241 Жыл бұрын
It would be nice to see a comparison video between this and the fg42. Very similar platforms, in some ways.
@stoops187
@stoops187 Жыл бұрын
@@smorrow what’s does “Barney Load” mean good sir?
@montebarnes3021
@montebarnes3021 Жыл бұрын
@@smorrow I don't think that matters all that much
@stoops187
@stoops187 Жыл бұрын
@@smorrow ohhhh ok got you… never heard that related to as a Barney load before! Thanks!
@OzarksWildman
@OzarksWildman Жыл бұрын
Ian is a left handed expert about right handed equipment. 👍
@happyhaunter_5546
@happyhaunter_5546 Жыл бұрын
I had one of these with a GI Joe and never knew what it was as a kid even though I was a huge nerd and went well out of my way to research all the usual suspects. Really cool to see this, in action, thanks again Ian.
@LUR1FAX
@LUR1FAX Жыл бұрын
Maybe a stronger recoil spring and/or redesigned receiver to allow for longer bolt travel, could have made the gun more controllable. I don't necessarily think you'd have to add a lot more weight to it.
@nicholashodges201
@nicholashodges201 Жыл бұрын
A stiffer recoil buffer *would* be a great start, but adding weight is much more reasonable for someone who owns one than redesigning the receiver. And you can add quite a bit. A heavy profile barrel, replacing the stock, forgrip & grip with either heavier material or weighted copies. You could also try lightening the bolt a hair. This will bump the rof slightly, but the bolt would lose an amount of velocity proportionate to the mass reduction and it would decelerate better. This is a really good design. Imagine how much better it would've been if it were designed using modern cad & physics animation programs
@RCP-1136
@RCP-1136 Жыл бұрын
@@nicholashodges201 lighter bolt would be quicker. I feel like that the harsh recoil was a trade off from having the semi auto closed bolt and fully automic open bolt system...
@nicholashodges201
@nicholashodges201 Жыл бұрын
@@RCP-1136 that's because it is. Open bolt designs like stiffer recoil springs than closed bolt. I imagine the Johnson recoil spring is an unhappy medium.
@colemanmoore9871
@colemanmoore9871 Жыл бұрын
@@nicholashodges201 Adding weight would not have been reasonable for the paratroopers.
@joshtiscareno1312
@joshtiscareno1312 Жыл бұрын
@@colemanmoore9871 Speeding up the rate of fire wouldn't be good either. When you are feeding your LMG with stripper clips, you want a SLOW rate of fire.
@DShiflet01
@DShiflet01 Жыл бұрын
When you need to get the job done, send in some Marines with big Johnsons.
@M.M.83-U
@M.M.83-U Жыл бұрын
Now immagine this, but in .276 Pedersen... That magazine was a surprise, such an old idea.
@MisterBiscuitsOfficial
@MisterBiscuitsOfficial Жыл бұрын
Glory to Elbonia!!!
@paleoph6168
@paleoph6168 Жыл бұрын
Glory to Arstotzka!
@marvindebot3264
@marvindebot3264 Жыл бұрын
Way too good for Elbonia.
@Jabberwockybird
@Jabberwockybird 3 ай бұрын
Viva los Elbonia! --Henry Kissinger
@dwayneelizondomountaindewh6073
@dwayneelizondomountaindewh6073 Жыл бұрын
such a cool design
@Gem_MintCollectibles
@Gem_MintCollectibles Жыл бұрын
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@raoulchapman7310
@raoulchapman7310 Жыл бұрын
I once had the opportunity to shoot an FG42 and a Johnson LMG in the same afternoon. My assessment was that the FG42 kicked harder but easier to do controlled bursts as the recoil was a bit more straight line. I very much enjoyed both. Both seemed to be a bit finicky, but either one would do well in battle.
@stephenrickstrew7237
@stephenrickstrew7237 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this episode… I’m sure there is an upcoming episode on the Johnson Spitfire and the MMJ 5.7 cartridge.. !
@petesheppard1709
@petesheppard1709 Жыл бұрын
Now go and ice that shoulder... The M14 included a charger clip guide for the same reason; in fact, they were issued with only two mags for riflemen. Early publications stressed reloading the rifle with stripper clips, similar to the Lee Enfields. This was the case when I was issued an M14 at Marine Corps OCS, in 1975. AR-men, who used M14s with the selector switch activated, would carry more magazines.
@jamestarbet9608
@jamestarbet9608 Жыл бұрын
??? That doesn't make sense as the standard loadout for the Army's M-1956 gear was two magazine pouches capable of containing up to 3 M14 magazines each (USMC later adopting more USA standard field gear throughout Vietnam). Even my own copy of the Guidebook for Marines c.1971 shows at least 4 separate single-mag pouches in the garrison 'junk-on-the-bunk' displays. Only exceptions I'm aware of are for range work or pulling Guard Duty.
@petesheppard1709
@petesheppard1709 Жыл бұрын
@@jamestarbet9608 I wish I could find my 'Guidebook' from the early '70s! IIRC, the photo you mention was for an AR-man. At OCS in '75, I was issued two mags with single-mag pouches along with my M14. We were also issued WWII-era deuce gear. I didn't know there were triple M14 pouches; the largest I've seen were doubles (I actually have a couple of them) I'm not disagreeing with you, just sharing what I actually saw and remember myself. 🙂
@jamestarbet9608
@jamestarbet9608 Жыл бұрын
Quick reference I found stated 3 in the unreinforced M-56 pouches, but I have never personally used an M-14 with that equipment set. I have squeezed up to 4 20-rnd M-16 magazines in those same pouches though. To quote from my copy of the c. 1971 Guidebook "These displays are designed for a Marine who is issued the standard equipment and minimum clothing allowance, appropriate modifications will be required." The example photos over the next couple of pages show separated components of the helmet, both packs with accompanying straps and suspenders two canteen sets (but only one canteen cup) and 4 M-14 magazines with pouches. I believe since you were state side, post-Vietnam and OCS, your allotment was modified as special-case.
@petesheppard1709
@petesheppard1709 10 ай бұрын
@@jamestarbet9608 Sorry for not seeing this sooner; I must have missed the notification. The ways of the Marine Corps are often inscrutable. In '77, we got M16A1s, full ALICE (including the 3x30mag pouches) and cammies.
@GazalAlShaqab
@GazalAlShaqab Жыл бұрын
Interesting and original weapon, with its pros and its cons. Thanks Ian for showing it "at work"'!
@jasonb7230
@jasonb7230 Жыл бұрын
The sound of that gun reminds me of the original opening for the channel
@HalfWarrior
@HalfWarrior Жыл бұрын
Whenever I see you shoot Ian, it’s always pleasant to see you with your left hand on the trigger; the reason why is I used to be left handed on my rifles or long guns. But now I have a problem with my left arm and hand where I can’t shoot anymore. Thanks for the time and effort you put into making your videos.
@LARPing_Services_LLC
@LARPing_Services_LLC Жыл бұрын
Maybe you could use a ...not sure if it's blasphemous but fuck it... a motherfucking THUMB TRIGGER. Although I don't know the extent of your problem, so it may be useless anyways. Cheers!
@Ingsoc75
@Ingsoc75 Жыл бұрын
I’m right handed but firing my rifles left handed feels more natural.
@HalfWarrior
@HalfWarrior Жыл бұрын
@@LARPing_Services_LLC Thanks! Yeah, my left hand is right here; still attached to me, but I had a stroke in early 2019; left side of my body has been paralyzed since; unable to move it at all.
@HalfWarrior
@HalfWarrior Жыл бұрын
@@Ingsoc75 I was always left handed when shooting my rifles; but naturally used right hand for handguns; but I’m halfway paralyzed, so I don’t shoot much anymore;well, not in the past 4 years anyway. Thanks; have a great day!
@y2a1979
@y2a1979 Жыл бұрын
@@HalfWarrior Just have to pick what you're shooting based on what you can do now, I would think. As long as at least one hand still works fairly well, you could always enjoy an afternoon plinking away with a small calibre pistol, if nothing else. At least you still get the smell of the powder in your nose. :)
@Chiller01
@Chiller01 Жыл бұрын
I would think that charger reloading feature would be really valuable during those aggressive Japanese attacks. Seems to fulfill all the requirements of the FG42 before the FG42 was a thing.
@samobispo1527
@samobispo1527 Жыл бұрын
MMJ’s most innovative breakthroughs were the final development of his rifle/LMG, the ‘Daisy Mae’ carbine, and his 5.7mm, a .223 projectile for a necked down .30 carbine cartridge. The Carbine was a mix of an LMG lower with a rifle upper fed from a BAR round. Short, compact, full barreled and under 10lbs, it predated every modern main battle rifle.
@storytimedavidcollins2897
@storytimedavidcollins2897 Жыл бұрын
Thanks again as always Ian Very good video learning once again about a very interesting and important gun that we all wanted to know more about.
@mayomancer527
@mayomancer527 Жыл бұрын
I remember finding this gun exactly once while playing Medal of Honor Pacific Assault, and then never again. I thought my memories as a kid were lying to me but recently I discovered the name of the gun and found out it only ever drops if a specific allied soldier in a specific mission happens to be killed and drops it.
@seanmaier4941
@seanmaier4941 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see you adding slow motion shots again.
@andrewfidel2220
@andrewfidel2220 Жыл бұрын
Glad that the KZfaq issues got worked out an you can bring us these machine gun clips here.
@Gem_MintCollectibles
@Gem_MintCollectibles Жыл бұрын
Congratulations 🎉 You're one lucky soul🙂 Contact the above to get your (new gun)🔫🔫🔫
@gregbrown4009
@gregbrown4009 Жыл бұрын
The report of that gun in full auto--even on computer speakers--is terrifying. And it does look like you are getting quite a shaking too! Great video once again!
@randomexcessmemories4452
@randomexcessmemories4452 Жыл бұрын
I've always loved this gun. The Johnson LMG is an underrated gem of a weapon!
@Gem_MintCollectibles
@Gem_MintCollectibles Жыл бұрын
Congratulations 🎉 You're one lucky soul🙂 Contact the above to get your (new gun)🔫🔫🔫
@mikeross8653
@mikeross8653 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful Ian! Loved this video, would love to see a weapon that is more “friendly”for left handed shooters like Ian and me!
@KHugg1776
@KHugg1776 Жыл бұрын
I used to feel so sorry for the left handed shooters when I was in boot camp / M-14's
@indigomer
@indigomer Жыл бұрын
Made me happy when you did the magazine dump at the end
@hooks4638
@hooks4638 5 ай бұрын
It sounds so good. I can't believe how beautiful it sounds.
@robviousobviously5757
@robviousobviously5757 Жыл бұрын
have had the opportunity to shoot a Johnson rifle that belonged to a friend years ago.. the recoil impulse was quite unique.. odd somewhat.. can only imagine that in full-auto... jealous of your range experience..
@jimsiress9687
@jimsiress9687 Жыл бұрын
These Johnson machine guns are just absolutely one of coolest machine guns ever 👍 Super Coo!
@jordansvennes5587
@jordansvennes5587 Жыл бұрын
More great content from Ian, keep it coming good sir!
@Coltbreath
@Coltbreath Жыл бұрын
Really Sweet LMG Ian! Way to take the hits on the full auto recoil. 🙏👍
@eksbocks9438
@eksbocks9438 Жыл бұрын
3:10 I've noticed that with a lot of guns, actually. If it hits the back of the receiver, there's more kick and barrel climb. But if the recoil spring stops it from doing that, it's more pleasant to shoot.
@basketcase1235
@basketcase1235 Жыл бұрын
congrats, you figured out why the ultimax is very controllable.
@Kav.
@Kav. Жыл бұрын
That's the principle of constant recoil iirc.
@gordoncouger9648
@gordoncouger9648 Жыл бұрын
The 101st jumped with BARs. A friend of mine carried one in WW II. He went out the door, weighing almost 400 pounds. He dropped the two 60-pound leg packs of ammo before he hit the ground. He was 6' 2" at the upper limit the paratroopers would take. His only combat was a truck ride to Bastone for Christmas.
@cerberus144
@cerberus144 Жыл бұрын
Ian, his camera, and his Johnson.
@Mindflayer911
@Mindflayer911 Жыл бұрын
Stripper clip reloading definitaly makes sense considering the marines didnt get Garands in large numbers until later in the war. (43 I think - not sure) Anyway, makes sense from a early war logistic standpoint.
@cammobunker
@cammobunker Жыл бұрын
Technically the Marines adopted the Garand in 1940, but there was a great amount of pushback from the old salts. It was in very limited numbers through 1941, but the fighting on Guadalcanal showed that the M1903's days were past. In roughly mid-1942, the Corps went to replacement of all M1903 rifles with M1 rifles, and by the battle of Tarawa in November of 43 the entire Marine Corps was armed with the M1. The only exception might be some stateside garrison and guard units and shipboard detachments, essentially support troops as opposed to combat troops. New units being stood up in late 1942 were being issued all Garands. One would sometimes find an old Gunny or Master Sergeant packing an M1903 though. Also the Marines issued the M1 Carbine and M1A! Thompson sub-machine gun in large numbers as well.
@richardbruce8111
@richardbruce8111 Жыл бұрын
Once again you nailed it Ian! I have always been curious about the Johnson Down here in NZ many good things were said of the Johnson after WW2 . Maybe its attraction with US troops was because the BAR held on too long! Compared to the Bren there are many points it comes second, but it would have been better than the BAR in use! Obviously the tendency to move round due to recoil is a negative , compare to the "pinpoint" accuracy of the Bren it is second. really cute clip loading feature! Great performance Thank you.
@joshuaspicer8454
@joshuaspicer8454 Жыл бұрын
Awesome as always Ian!
@Warmaker01
@Warmaker01 9 ай бұрын
I didn't even know the USMC was using this thing. Thank you.
@johnmcclain3887
@johnmcclain3887 Жыл бұрын
I was so enthused by this machinegun a couple decades ago, I bought several Remington model 8 rifles, semiauto, but using essentially the same long recoil action. I really enjoy shooting them. A good gun collection ought to have quite a few "oddballs" in it. Thanks Ian!
@robgraham5697
@robgraham5697 Жыл бұрын
Many years ago I was designing a role playing game. Specifically a cyberpunk RPG. I wanted to make the combat as realistic as possible. One of my go to research books was a Gun Digest book of Assault Weapons. It had a very good article on the Johnson weapons. It was the first I'd heard of them. Nice to see one of them in action. Thanks.
@ishaandas3006
@ishaandas3006 8 ай бұрын
That's awesome. If it's not a hassle, may I ask which guns did you end up taking as an inspiration. Also what happened to the RPG project you were working on?
@robgraham5697
@robgraham5697 8 ай бұрын
@@ishaandas3006 The main firearms I used as inspiration were the P90 and the Steyr assault rifles. Because they look cyberpunk. The project, at least the final prototype, is gathering dust in a closet. I got very ill and couldn't continue,
@ishaandas3006
@ishaandas3006 8 ай бұрын
@@robgraham5697 that's amazing. I was also designing a game concept. It was set in an alternate 1930s wherein the Mediterranean (special emphasis on Adriatic) and Red sea was infested with sky pirates, airships and regular gunrunners. Weapons included a lot of Aircraft machine guns in the form of flexible mounted weapons (you could use them from an emplacement or handheld) such as aircraft Lewis guns, breda safats, German mg15s and maxims. Planes ranged from practical real life fighters of 1920s and 30s to Schneider trophy racing planes converted as fighters. The idea was that you were a ww1 veteran working as a bounty hunter. You had to take down fellow pilots and large airships called ranging from flying airstrips, floating miniature towns etc. You also had a secondary antagonist as the fascist government of Italy sought to end both the pirates and the bounty hunters by their own air armada. Aesthetics were mostly art deco/dieselpunk. The idea sadly ended abruptly. Being an adult takes up a lot of time.
@robgraham5697
@robgraham5697 8 ай бұрын
@@ishaandas3006 Very cool idea. Very imaginative. And yeah, adulting sucks.
@cheatham777
@cheatham777 Жыл бұрын
That’s a Mighty Big Johnson you got there GunJesus
@MythicMagus
@MythicMagus Жыл бұрын
The ability to top off using a stripper clip is neat. I don't know of another gun that's mag fed but can also take clips like that.
@tonyc223
@tonyc223 Жыл бұрын
M-14,M1A.
@nbenicewicz
@nbenicewicz Жыл бұрын
I look at the Johnson and I can't help but think that there was some missed potential. The firing chamber is located above the magazine action. I can't help but think that if the magwell part of the action could have be enlarged enough to use BAR magazines. Then since it used a side mounted magazine they could have developed 40 round magazines for it that would have been about the same overall length as the 20 round single stack magazines. I also wonder if someone could have come up with a belt fed version that could have looked similar to what would later be seen on the HK-21 machine gun. What do you think Ian @ForgottenWeapons ?
@kyle857
@kyle857 Жыл бұрын
This has to be of the best looking guns of all time.
@scttewegner72
@scttewegner72 Жыл бұрын
Thats just awesome! I never heard of this firearm before, but then again, you are kind of my oddity firearm gurus
@MrCrystalcranium
@MrCrystalcranium Жыл бұрын
What an amazing piece. "That'll rattle your bell"! Perfect. I can see why proud and burley US Marines loved this thing.
@markpeterson1819
@markpeterson1819 Жыл бұрын
I always wish you would show the target just for an idea how easy or tough it is to keep on target.
@tpelle2
@tpelle2 Жыл бұрын
Actually, the group size for a machine gun is not so relative. What good does it really do to send an entire burst through the same hole? The effectiveness of a machine gun is in indirect fire area denial. There's a story of an early British machine gun (Maybe the BREN gun?) that was TOO accurate, and the British army had the mount redesigned so that the gun sort of bounced around a little so as to provide MORE shot dispersion. Actually I may have heard that here!
@markpeterson1819
@markpeterson1819 Жыл бұрын
​@@tpelle2 To be honest I was actually meaning groups with the smg's that he does. Nice to find out if they stay on a man sized target at 50 yards or not. My only experience with full auto at distance was an M2 carbine at 50 yards and even in short bursts it was tough to keep on target.
@czack_rz3532
@czack_rz3532 Жыл бұрын
On the final mag dump - to my ear the rate of fire varied a little bit. Would that be due to the ammo or the gun?
@jimmack1504
@jimmack1504 Жыл бұрын
Ian has a knack for handling his Johnson
@mean45acp
@mean45acp Жыл бұрын
Ian Just wanted to let you and the viewers know about an issue you stated. The "floating" of the last 2 or 3 rounds of ammo from a magazine is ONLY an issue if you are shooting the weapon in SEMIAUTOMATIC. When running the Johnson in full auto with either short bursts or with a mag dump, the issue disappears every time. I own a Johnson LMG and to be honest it is my pride and joy. Of all of the machine guns.I own it was the HARDEST to find. I purchased it in 2011 in PA when I lived there. It came from the widow of the man whose father carried it on TARAWA. When I acquired it the rifle did not have the bipod. I figured I would NEVER find a bipod, but the lady contacted me about 2 months later and asked if I could come by and see if a box of "stuff" that was labeled "Johnson parts" she had just found were parts for the Johnson I bought. When I arrived at her home, she led me to the garage and there was a foot locker from WW2 with "JOHNSON PARTS" painted in military stencil. I opened it and almost had a heart attack. The bipod was there, along with 20 magazines that looked brand new, several still had oiled paper wraps on them. Also was a sling, and 200 03 Springfield stripper clips. Several other little things were there as well. I asked how much she wanted for the foot locker and was told if those are parts for that "WEIRD RIFLE" take them, they are yours. When I picked it up I saw a other foot locker marked BAR STUFF. I asked if I could look at that box and she said I could have it for $100. I handed her $100 and put both foot lockers in my truck. The BAR stuff was a bipod, 50 magazines, sling, a bolt, 2 barrels, and some small parts. I asked if she had any other guns she wanted to sell. She asked me if I had been in the Marines. I showed her the tattoo on my arm and she said, come on in and see what you want. I had to call a friend who owns a gun store to come over so we could do a ton of paperwork. She sold me a BAR, a Garand, 3 M1 Carbines, and 3 1911s, and a 1917 Colt. I felt as though I had taken advantage of her because of how little money she wanted for all of it. I explained how much the guns were worth but she did not seem to care. She said none of her family wanted the weapons around and that she and her husband had discussed the guns before his death. He wanted them to go to " A GOOD HOME, HOPEFULLY A MARINE HOME",.that is where they are and where they will STAY. GREAT VIDEO.ON THE JOHNSON LMG. They TRULY ARE FORGOTTEN WEAPONS!!!!!
@edwardanenberg349
@edwardanenberg349 Жыл бұрын
Can’t help looking at that weapon, and thinking about a belt fed version 😎
@WaukWarrior360
@WaukWarrior360 Жыл бұрын
An underfed receiver and chambered in the T65 cartridge too
@biggerbehindthetrigger2814
@biggerbehindthetrigger2814 Жыл бұрын
I really like that weapon. I wonder how much they are? It would be a great investment and fun to shoot. They are rare, $65,000 rare. I'm still going to keep my eyes open. I should do a video on class 3 firearms. Go into the special safe and put some ammunition through them. I just don't like to shoot them that much. Well the old ones and rare ones not that the safe is full but capital wise it is.
@RockSolitude
@RockSolitude Жыл бұрын
I really love the sound signature of this weapon. Such a simple yet satisfying, meaty bang.
@evandotterer4365
@evandotterer4365 4 ай бұрын
I particularly like the Johnson lmk cause they some at canal. They played a pivotal roll in fire power supremacy defending the airfield. Really cool
@DuckAllMighty
@DuckAllMighty Жыл бұрын
My first thought when I saw this was like: "Wait isn't this an FG-42?" but I see they have some distinct differences. This is a pretty cool example of convergent design to overcome the same issues for paratroopers.
@Drownedinblood
@Drownedinblood Жыл бұрын
I imagine it was some officer reading through the history of paramarines and the Johnson that led to IAR being a thing.
@larryschmidt3594
@larryschmidt3594 10 ай бұрын
That gun has the sweetest sound in full auto.
@dropnoelfield295
@dropnoelfield295 Жыл бұрын
Never heard of it, this is why I watch. Thanks mate
@JF-xq6fr
@JF-xq6fr Жыл бұрын
What would happen if you selected full auto with a round in the chamber, closed bolt and fired?
@larrythorn4715
@larrythorn4715 Жыл бұрын
Also something I want to know. And how about the change from auto to semi?
@bulukacarlos4751
@bulukacarlos4751 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Just one question: When you changed from semi to full you should have activated the bolt and ejected an active ammunition. In the case of going from full auto to semi, do you have to do any specific action? Greetings from Patagonia Argentina
@Stevarooni
@Stevarooni Жыл бұрын
I'm guessing that when he switches from full- to semi-auto, he would have to pull the bolt handle making the bolt close, loading the first round.
@bulukacarlos4751
@bulukacarlos4751 Жыл бұрын
@@Stevarooni I assume the same as you, but I don't know if I should do it slowly to avoid the percussion of the primer. Thank you for your comment and greetings from Patagonia Argentina.
@honorb4glory606
@honorb4glory606 Жыл бұрын
I just realized something huge. Ian is concentrated kryptonite to the anti-gun crowd and narative. He's 100% non-threatening, he looks and sounds like an educated left-leaning intellectual, he educates others about guns in a fun and interesting way, and naturally dispells gun control myths and misunderstandings. The more popular Ian gets, the better.
@wasntmeXYZ
@wasntmeXYZ Жыл бұрын
Morphy’s is an excellent auction house and I can vouch for that 100%!! Great video as always!
@JamesLaserpimpWalsh
@JamesLaserpimpWalsh Жыл бұрын
hah. Jeez. The recoil nearly took your hat off man. Bouncy as heck lol. Cheers Ian
@tadyoshi3610
@tadyoshi3610 Жыл бұрын
First of all thank you Morphys Auctions. Also thanks you Ian for showing us this Iconic machine.
@user-zp5jk7gx5b
@user-zp5jk7gx5b 10 ай бұрын
That is one of thee most smooth actioned weapons I have ever seen in military action ever. Beautiful .
@almayne5733
@almayne5733 Жыл бұрын
My father was with the First Special Service Force in world war 2 and the Johnson LMG was the weapon he used in Italy.
@Gem_MintCollectibles
@Gem_MintCollectibles Жыл бұрын
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@ole7428
@ole7428 Жыл бұрын
Hey, very interesting to hear about machine gun plastic belts! Thank you.
@davidv.3135
@davidv.3135 Жыл бұрын
Now that's a cool weapon! Thanks Ian!
@dustyhedger380
@dustyhedger380 Жыл бұрын
Nobody ever said the 30-06 was a pleasurable plinking round . Good vid .
@The_Modeling_Underdog
@The_Modeling_Underdog Жыл бұрын
I'm sold on it. Absolutely beautiful.
@stevekillgore9272
@stevekillgore9272 Ай бұрын
Awesome, thanks all !
@rdb8509
@rdb8509 Жыл бұрын
Such a cool MG!
@user-fs5zr5gc3k
@user-fs5zr5gc3k 10 ай бұрын
My father was a Marine and was a Johnson user in combat. One thing he spoke of was turning the SMG on it's side with the magazine up and using it from the hip that way. He stated that in this configuration it's downward ejection made the SMG "float" and was easier to control. He also stated that he was several times asked to go to the front lines and "let off a clip or two" to stir up the enemy. Seems they were drawn to the sound and assumed that "something" was up" and gathered for combat, which let the line know where they were and where to aim and call in mortars or shelling. He loved the SMG and hated giving it up.
@theblackhand6485
@theblackhand6485 Жыл бұрын
Nice. This gun really sounds good. Strong and powerful.
@nealgold8442
@nealgold8442 Жыл бұрын
Great video and content!
@BobSmith-dk8nw
@BobSmith-dk8nw Жыл бұрын
That was really nice of the auction house to let you take it out and shoot it. .
@fordfarmer6465
@fordfarmer6465 Жыл бұрын
He said sturm and drang in reference to the Johnson. This man deserves a doctorate.
@juhomaki-petaja
@juhomaki-petaja Жыл бұрын
I love this gun. Just by looks and mechanics
@royshobe6642
@royshobe6642 Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks for making this video
@masteroogway5028
@masteroogway5028 6 ай бұрын
Fun fact. The 1st marine Para troop regiment equipped with 12 Johnson Rifles(not the Johnson LMG yes there were two types for those who didn't know) , 1-3 Johnson LMGs, and the rest were M55 reisings every marine that had a reising traded it in for either a Johnson Rifle or LMG when they were re-arming due to how poorly made or unreilable the M55's were. Also a marine had a confirmed kill count of 42 with the Johnson Rifle.
@collinmclaren6608
@collinmclaren6608 Жыл бұрын
Gotta love the sound of that slow “PAP-PAP-PAP” cyclic rate. The quintessential world war video game machine gun noise
@jacknelson8601
@jacknelson8601 Жыл бұрын
Ahhhhhh yes, the famous Johnny Gun! My fav video to date...thankyou Ian!
@stevenhall2408
@stevenhall2408 11 ай бұрын
Over 30 years ago I was looking in M&I Surplus in Pomona, Ca and there was this 4x4 creight full of these magazines. They were $10 each, I thought they were Madsen mags but many years later I found out otherwise and watching this video reminded me they were Johnson magazines! I wish I had bought at least one as my great uncle had served in the 1st Special Service Force and no doubtedly were around them in Italy.
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