The final version of the Discovery actually does have Starfleet hull livery. It's located on the outboard sides of the warp nacelles and was inspired by the design seen in TNG.

Pretty rude to not even leave a link for that used mattress

We need a discovery pizza cutter.

I kind of wish the Discovery (and the Glenn) had an NX registry. It would've fit nicely with the highly experimental nature of the spore drive

Junkball Media, keeping the audience vague as to whether or not he actually likes Discovery since 2017, probably.

I would think the sphere is a nod to one of Matt Jeffries' early TOS Enterprise designs, now accepted as the Daedalus class. ;-)

I don’t care for the design of Discovery, BUT the version of the Enterprise that showed up at the end of DIS season 2 is probably my absolute favorite design for Enterprise I’ve ever seen. It’s so sleek yet sturdy looking, and I LOVE how the pylons are super angled backward, but not too flattened down. The drive section has the nice barrel shape, the nacelles are intimidating but not stupidly over sized like in the reboot movies, ah I just love that Enterprise so much! Take that model and replace it’s saucer section with the almost cruise ship like looking saucer section if Enterprise D and you got my dream ship right there.

I'm glad you put that part in about only the surface spinning. That makes it seem less ridiculous. But I swear I've seen the hull to a loopy-loop kind of thing where the inner and outer saucer section spin on an axis that would run from front to back. Did I imagine this or does the ship really do that? God I hated that.

Awesome. I really like how the discovery is blocked out in basic shapes. Circle, Rectangle, Triangle. Simplicity in elegance. Never knew hard lines could look good on a ship.

Wait, I can buy Junkball’s used mattress?!? Shut up and take my money! This is the only channel I actually get excited about when I see a new video post.

Love this channel! Thanks for making these!

It was so satisfying when playing ST Timelines, I destroyed Discovery with the ISS Enterprise.

Captain, incoming hail on a priority channel.... It's JUNKBALL, Sir!

"I have no idea how I'm gonna end this video." Just like the producers of STD.

I knew I had seen the sketch for that damn ship, when I was a kid it was a concept for the new Enterprise before the first film was made. Some people did not believe me when I said "Discovery is just a recycled idea from the late 1970s."

did the designer have a few strokes between all the nice looking ships he did and this one?

This videos are actually therapy. Just the thing you need in lockdown.

I've missed you!! Always love your, ..,well, your stuff!

I would seriously watch you do a deep dive into just about any topic. I like your super laid-back yet informative style.

Just love the way this guy makes this kind of video's.

Junkball your videos are extremely well done, and I love your comedy. The 80s style really does keep my attention in the way use it as your theme. Awesome content and great job remaining impartial

If the discovery went into atmosphere it would immediately tear apart

Minor inaccuracy: Discovery does have the Starfleet pendant on the forward/outboard panel of the engine nacelles. It isn't easy to spot.

1:12 actually it wasn’t Ralph McQuarrie who created that concept art, it was simply found in one of his folders. The name of the guy who actually did it eludes me, but there was a note in the folder identifying him as the artist.

Fantastic video as always!

So glad you're back to the videos! Genuinely missed your chat and sense of humour

Woooo! Love it, can't wait for another video!

I would probably watch this channel just for your voice and the music, so the Star Trek is a bonus!

Great video as usual buddy! Looking forwards for the one about the ship´s final design! Cheers.

yes yes yes i am hyped for every new Video from Junkball Media

Always love your uploads!

I really like your videos! Your attention to detail is informative and entertaining, and you have some good humor (I especially love the Marsh Melon episode). Is there any chance you might do future videos about various shuttlecraft, like the Type 7 and it's various onscreen changes (and it's more ufo-like concept art, and failed attempts to make a full-scale version), the type 6 and it's rebuild from the Star Trek V shuttle and later it's other rebuild into the type 8 and then that random one-off ship in Voyager, the little lower-budget Type 15 Shuttlepod, and so on? Those would be awesome to see.

"so that's the video" I love it

Been waiting all week for this!

A deeper look at the creative process is always worthwhile. In your channel's case, doubly so! :-)

cant believe i just discovered your channel! i love your style of videos

all the early concept designs are better then the finished look

Very interesting Video. Thanks for this :)

Unpopular Opinion: Star Trek Discovery is a good show

Could a Friday night get any better, I submit it cannot.

Off topic, but I just want to say I love your use of the F13 III theme for your videos. I've always loved that beat and I think it fits so well here.

Regardless of anything else, this design had an epic journey to finally see the light of day!

You, sir, deserve more subscribers.

Great Video!

the plane was giving me big fireflash vibes

On hull livery: There are deltas and stripes on the nacelles, but they’re painted silver and tend to blend in to the rest of the hull when photographed. There is also a delta and stripe on Discovery’s belly, but shots in show rarely show it. Just thought you’d like to know, Junkball. Great video as always!

ok what is the intro music? ive heard it before and so want to find it again

5:47 i kinda like this version better than the final one. My head canon is this is a stock Crossfield, the final version is the Spore-drive refit.

Tje doscovery would look a lot better with red orange nacelle bussard collector like on tos add in the tos pin stripping and shorten the nacelles or go with temp nacelles

Gonna have a controversial opinion, I think the discovery ship looks quite cool especially seeing their design inspiration and thought process, also didn't know the thing about crossfield being named after a pilot or the walker being named after a pilot. I also really liked the crossfield class as it was a pretty neat departure, kinda the same but different, especially without the poorly designed bridge dome on top. Feels like a ship designed for war.

What’s the song that you played when Star Trek Discovery popped up in the beginning.

why are your background music choices so good

Dope, the Alpha version from the preview trailer was pretty cool. Thanks!

Fuller's best comment when we were working on it, "I don't want them to be able to make a toy. I want it to CUT people. That's how flat I want the saucer. Like a pizza cutter." Fuller didn't last long after that. ;) Another rarely known fact. The registry number. Yeah. It changed weeks before he got the boot. He changed it to the Halloween date at the last minute because, "I really like Halloween." Also, the spinning rings was literally last second. Like...DAYS before shipping.

Wouldn't it be bad to only have 4 corridors between the inner and outer rings for crew passage?

The bit at 0:41 was pure gold.

Great video, thanks! :) As someone who hasn't seen the new show (and won't be watching it!) I was hoping this would be more of an introduction to the new ship. This is really my first look. Seeing all these sketches and visuals, I had no idea which (if any) was the final design. Does the saucer section really rotate? That's a big shock, and it seems too advanced for the timeline it sits in?

wonderful - never knew the Valkyrie and Crossfield connections

whats the name of the background music at the beginning?

(Trying to convey in a neutral emotion) I love Eaves, I don't blame him for what he was given to work with, but still Fuller should've given Eaves some slack to come up with another legendary ship and not polish up wadded up art that Gene Roddenberry and or others threw away. At least with the Phase II Enterprise, it still had familiarities that people would recognize and welcome more willingly than McQuire's (in my opinion) lazy "concept".

I gave YOU a thumbs-up......NOT the ship.

And so, after all the hard work and thought....We Bring You the 23rd Century Warp powered Pizza Cutter.😒

Came for the cars on this channel, stayed for the sci-fi geek-out!

I confess when it first appeared, I thought some fan had made a fake trailer, and I hated it. But now I quite like it.

So the copper look comes from the faded, old paper of the McQuarrie design sketch?

Great video. I particularly like the detail on plates rotating...not rings. I swear I have seen rings rotating in the show. I bet the spore flip is also an illusion, and it works differently than my brain perceived it. Could you do the same for other DSC ships? And will you review other Eaglemoss models from DSC line?

I go back and forth on whether I like the ship design. I like the longer nacelles and I like the general shape of the ship, I just don't like that the secondary hull is raised up on a neck but the whole back end of the ship is flat. It feels really unbalanced.

I love the look into the design process. Nice job! Still a pretty ugly ship, though.... IMHO.....

It is supposed to be black or bronze color? In the show it clearly looks black, but in the eaglmoss model its a bright shade of bronze??

3:53 Reminds me of the tail section of the "F-22 raptor" aircraft.

1:39 Where is that star destroyer from?

is there any even semi sensible reason why would the surface of the saucer spin?

Mattress still available?

Can you do Warp Drive with only 1 warp nacelle?

2020 and its STILL the most ugly thing in starfleet.

"I have no idea how I'm going to end this video." .... "So that's the video..."

2:13 it actually isn't black, it's more of like a dark gold/bronze, but in space it looks black

1:10 The problem is - Ralph McQuarrie's style (especially in scifi with the wide reaching audience of Star Wars) was something that defined the " used future" aesthetic we see in Star Wars and Alien, i.e. all the 80's. Star Trek was originally made in the 60's when scifi was still 'supposed' to look sleek and clean. [I think Roddenberry even stipulated minimum lines and detail on the hull! "Race car" "dragster" in space with aviation influences] When they did the re-fit in 1979 they updated while still keeping a sort-of 'smooth' aesthetic - at the least EVERYTHING FLOWED and looked good at any filming angle (apply the 1/3 frame thing or the Golden Ration to any angle of the original or refit and it will look good. Applies for the most part to TNG but not Voyager. I can't really count DS9 (since the station was symmetrical and the Defiant too compact - though it applies and makes it work perfect in battle shots). I give up on NX-01 ... too simple to delve into like the Defiant, except a pie tin in the air at any angle would work (I actually dig the NX design in secret). I think the refit even accentuated this aesthetic by sweeping the nacelle struts back at a V ... and moving the connection of the pylons forward on the secondary hull, which makes sense when we see the new larger shuttle/cargo bay in TMP ... and the ends of the nacelles at angles. I'd bet the angels in which the rim of the saucer, the neck, the struts, the shuttlebay, etc are even on tempo. Yes, space has no air so why make things aerodynamic etc. But that's the design that was laid out that defines the franchise. It's not the Millenium Falcon it's the Excelsior, it's not a Star Destroyer its the Enterprise yadda yadda. Referring to a concept that was radically different and never followed through with through 13 films and 4 TV series makes no sense. It's a dead end. It's even dead on the timeline because pre-Discovery ships follow the same aesthetic as Matt Jefferies, Probert, etc. It looks like carving fork.

Oh yea, Junkball Media uploaded a new video!

Discovery is the first ship in Star Trek that made me go "Ewwww..." It looks like they spent 10 minutes making it with a ruler.

You still got that mattress?

Can you do a video on the Constellation class next?

Whata your intor music? It's groovy man!

I knew I was right in thinking only the top spins and not the main saucer, so many youtube channels kept saying the whole saucer

7:36 It Actually does have a Pennant, It's On the Upper Outward facing Slants on the Forward Ends of Both of the Warp Nacelles, It's Coloured White, Similarly to how the Registry was Coloured.

despite some bugs, that startrek game was actually really awesome, and had some of the best environment art/assets any games had. Luckily that game became WARFRAME. Sadly Warframe deviated a lot when it came to characters and mood.

I feel like so many of the concept art pictures were much stronger than the final product. The ship still looks dumb and I do not like it. I wish the Shenzhou was the main ship of the show (but scaled down in size so its saucer section is the same size as the constitution class).

I don't like the open shuttle bay , enemy ship can pretty much blast it way thru the force field once the shields go down.

Fascinating history to the design. I really like it, but not so keen on the bronze finish.

Yo you still got that mattress?

Apparently Fuller originally wanted the Discovery to disguise itself as a D-7, hence the ball on the neck and the squared-off nacelle housing.

04:40 What are "bizarre collectors?" (That's not just me. The closed captions heard it that way, too.)

Am I the only one who likes the uss discovery? (Minus the wired hull texture)

The “Edsel” of starships. It’s like bad fanfic designs that 8th graders did in the 70s. The difference is those 8th graders knew there designs weren’t any good.

Looks like they put together the constellation class disk on top of a D7 Klingon battle cruiser.

Wow another transmission!

I can accept the design for what it is even though I would have done some things differently. As iconic as a ship can become for a show, the design is not the point of the show for me. It's got warp nacelles, a deflector dish and a saucer section -ok, I'll take it. The bronze/brass color was an unusual choice as was not going with red for the bussard collectors color.

HOW MUCH FOR THE MATTRESS

There are definitely elements from the concepts that I think would have worked better aesthetically, such as how the nacelles are mounted slanting outwards in one concept, while in another concept, the secondary hull appears Star Destroyer-like, rather than flat on the top and bottom. And am I the only one who thinks that the round inset navigational deflector doesn't work as well as a rectangular unit would have? And it's not like rectangular navigational deflectors weren't used in DSC.

So it's actually based on the Canadian Avro Arrow which predates the examples given. Canada also contributed to putting a man on the moon yet we get no credit for our role in that en-devour either.