🎦 V#50 Part 2 - 3650 Sensorless Brushless Motors

🎦 V#50 Part 2 - 3650 Sensorless Brushless Motors - Maximum RPM Test & Comparison

Рет қаралды 46,735

3 жыл бұрын

Please click SUBSCRIBE : bit.ly/2VM8DFi and help this channel grow _ Thanks ! 👍
*****Watch Part 1 here : • 🎦 V#11 Part 1 : 3650...
This is another test and comparison of the highest RPM ( Revolutions Per Minute ) we can get from six 3650 size brushless motors with different KV ratings ( 4370 KV, 4300 KV, 4550 KV, 5200 KV, 5400 KV ) using 5300 mAh 2S Lipo Battery .
From this test, you will get an idea which 3650 motor & KV to use when upgrading the motor of your RC car.
You can get here the DIGITAL TACHOMETER :
www.banggood.com/custlink/KK3...
Motors:
1) F540-4370 kv Surpasshobby, was taken from this combo: www.banggood.com/custlink/3GG...
2) 3650-4300 kv Queenhobby (same brand not available but you can also get this) : www.banggood.com/custlink/vGm...
3) 3650-4550 kv X-Team ( no link, bought from a local rc shop )
4) 3650-5200 kv Surpasshobby Platinum series ( site link no longer available, they only have a smaller 2845 motor now ) : www.banggood.com/custlink/KGv...
5) 3650-5200 kv Surpasshobby : www.banggood.com/custlink/mmv...
6) 3650-5400 kv Turnigy ( site link no longer available, out of stock )
Thanks for your support to this channel
Please SUBSCRIBE and hit the Notification bell icon
#brushlessmotor #test #comparison

Пікірлер: 138

@RcModwerks23 3 жыл бұрын

*****Watch Part 1 here : www.youtube.com/watch?v=db6Zm... This is another test and comparison of the highest RPM ( Revolutions Per Minute ) we can get from six 3650 size brushless motors with different KV ratings. Feel free to tell us which of these motors you have in your rc car, and also share us your experience with that motor .

@TheRCMaster 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome comparison and tests 👌 great video bro 👏

@RcModwerks23 3 жыл бұрын

thanks bro! 👍

@bigbeardrc4145 3 жыл бұрын

Really really well done mate.really interesting and eye opening

@RcModwerks23 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! but this is just an RPM test wihout load, and each motor might perform differently under load.

@troydoherty2738 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video, thought about testing the same kv but seeing which one draws least current and what temperature they reach?? Keep up the great work!!

@RcModwerks23 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I didn´t get those info because I was only focusing on my speed run builds at the moment ( I was more interested in knowing the motor max RPMs) ... those info will be useful if you run the rc car in the track 👍

@norcalrc 3 жыл бұрын

Nice work bro

@RcModwerks23 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the visit 👍

@fran.6496 3 жыл бұрын

Finalllyyy thank you :)))

@RcModwerks23 3 жыл бұрын

You are welcome ! Yes, I remember that you were asking for more motor RPM tests few months back 👍

@fran.6496 3 жыл бұрын

@@RcModwerks23 yes sir! I bought turnigy motor but with higher kv last month, it pushes my 144001 to 79mph on 2s! With castle ESC Idk name but it is perfect fit

@RcModwerks23 3 жыл бұрын

@@fran.6496 That´s awesome! 79 mph on 2s is very fast 💪

@illic0 Жыл бұрын

Top 👍🏻

@RcModwerks23 Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@mark.a.estrecho Жыл бұрын

This is a great comparison! Thank you for making this video! May I ask, can I use a 3S LiPo battery on a 80A Brushless ESC?

@RcModwerks23 Жыл бұрын

Yes you can, as long as the ESC is rated for 2s-3s lipo

@beachinrc101 2 жыл бұрын

Great 👍🏼 test maybe you can get a prop that can fit these moters & scale so we can determine best torque & with the battery 5300mah is even enough for rpm testing imho but hey I’m just another hobby crazy 😜 lol great 👍🏼 job thanks for the great vid

@RcModwerks23 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! 👍

@operator8014 3 жыл бұрын

Hey, I always wonder how these hobby grade motors compare to the performance of the brushless motors on cordless power tools.

@RcModwerks23 3 жыл бұрын

IMHO the motors they used in power tools are slower but they have more torque, but we cannot make a conclusion unless somebody makes a direct comparison. Thanks for watching !

@Speedslays 3 жыл бұрын

Been using that 4370kv f540 in my traxxas Bigfoot truck. Working awesome so far. If all goes well I'm gonna order 2 more for my rustler an stampede. I might get a fan for it though.

@RcModwerks23 3 жыл бұрын

Good that it´s working well for you. You can also try the 3650 size motor even if it´s the same kv, it will give yuo more torque compared to the F540.

@Speedslays 3 жыл бұрын

@@RcModwerks23 yes I'll probably have to change gearing for 4x4 Motor gets pretty warm.

@chaddison5928 2 жыл бұрын

What's the top speed and would you recommend it for a rustler 4x4?

@Speedslays 2 жыл бұрын

@@chaddison5928 I thunk it was like 40kmh with the high speed gearing for a 2wd stampede. But I put it in my 4x4 pede and it wasn't as fast. So not sure if I'd personally put it in anything 4x4 long term

@chaddison5928 2 жыл бұрын

@@Speedslays oh ok thanks for the info and have a great day/evening

@user-kz1dl2tg3v 7 ай бұрын

I thought the green 1 was castle I was like yep that wins 😂

@RcModwerks23 6 ай бұрын

The motor brand is X-Team

@dannywalker6279 2 жыл бұрын

Nice video thanks I'm thinking bout getting a wltoys 124019 and putting brushless system in it I mainly just drive in street any suggestions as to what motor I should go with

@RcModwerks23 2 жыл бұрын

Get the ones with lower kv ( 3600-4200 kv ) and it will be good for street driving... the equivalent of the stock 550 motor is aorund 2800 kv only.

@darkki94 2 жыл бұрын

@@RcModwerks23 so a 3100KV + 60A ESC should be fine for 2S and 3S , i want to upgrade my 124018 to brushless and to avoid overheating .

@piotrzas4248 18 күн бұрын

This data is provided by the manufacturer. It would be nice to immediately state how many amps it consumes.

@ValFPV 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this nice video! Which motor would you recommend for speedrunning a wltoys 144001 on stock gearing with 3s lipo? I'm currently using a 3650 3300kv motor with a top speed around 100km/h, my next goal is 120km/h.

@RcModwerks23 2 жыл бұрын

If your speed goal is 120 km/h in 3s lipo, either the 4300 kv or 4500 kv can do the job. Thanks for watching!

@ValFPV 2 жыл бұрын

@@RcModwerks23 thanks for your answer! Do you think 5200kv would give me even more speed or would it have too little torque then?

@RcModwerks23 2 жыл бұрын

@@ValFPV Yes, it will be faster but runs hotter

@evgeniyan2426 2 жыл бұрын

The main parameters are Output/Input Power and Efficiency at this power.

@RcModwerks23 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! 👍

@Sam-nz2zs 9 ай бұрын

What about a 540/7.5t v3 surpass hobby motor. With a 120hobbywing esc? On 3s??

@RcModwerks23 9 ай бұрын

Sorry I dont have that motor

@antoniaydin 6 ай бұрын

Can they make more rpm with higher batterij voltage?

@RcModwerks23 6 ай бұрын

Yes, as long as you dont exceed thier maximum RPM which is 50k RPM

@aizatnorman 2 жыл бұрын

Do you have any idea if all of these can run smoothly on a surpass hobby 60a ESC? I don't trust that 120a budget blue ESC. Cogging on those things can be felt more significantly too.

@RcModwerks23 2 жыл бұрын

I can´t tell because I dont own that specific ESC ... but all these motors will pull 60+ Max Amps. If you want a smooth system, better get a Sensored motor & ESC.

@aizatnorman 2 жыл бұрын

@@RcModwerks23 thanks boss!

@RcModwerks23 2 жыл бұрын

@@aizatnorman no problem 👍

@joelposadas5890 Жыл бұрын

What motor would u recommend for a traxxas slash 2wd dirt track racing it

@RcModwerks23 Жыл бұрын

I am not familiar with that rc car, but i think the lower kv motors will be good

@NostalgiaRC1 Жыл бұрын

What attachment did you put on the motor for the test?

@RcModwerks23 Жыл бұрын

It was a dIY piece made from an old pinion gear

@josuenevarez7209 2 жыл бұрын

I have a wltoys 124019 which one fits the stock motor mount and I wanted to get the 5200kv silver one but people say you lose acceleration deos it lose to much or not my goal is 95 km

@RcModwerks23 2 жыл бұрын

All of these 3650 brushless motors are direct fit to 124019 ... the selection of motor kv depends on how and where you drive your rc car . If you want speed and drive on-road only then the 5200 kv is Ok ... it can hit 120+ km/h on 2s and 140+ km/h on 3s. But if drive off-road better get a lower kv motor. Check my other videos and see the kv I use and top speed I get with them. The 4500 kv got me 120+ km/h on 3s at 3/4 throttle.

@arif_fadillah_ 9 ай бұрын

how many amperes of esc do you use?

@RcModwerks23 9 ай бұрын

120Amp ESC

@DinhNguyen-ki7lk 2 жыл бұрын

So the surpass hobby red better than the plantinum one?

@RcModwerks23 2 жыл бұрын

They are almost the same but the red one is a bit faster in my experience

@kamilthegreat2834 2 жыл бұрын

Would be interesting to see this teat on a proper power supply that wont have voltage sag.

@RcModwerks23 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the input 👍

@yogamon Жыл бұрын

All you have to do is parallel another lipo or 2 to get no voltage drop or sag over time thru the test

@kamilthegreat2834 Жыл бұрын

@@yogamon itll still dip even with 3 in parallel but not so much.

@yogamon Жыл бұрын

@@kamilthegreat2834 well yes. You can't use infinity amount of lipos, but the draw on the lipo is low to begin with, there is no load other than shaft and the adapter for optical reading purpose.

@yogamon Жыл бұрын

@@kamilthegreat2834 or use a life battery with flat discharge curve

@cage-rattler 2 жыл бұрын

What are you using on the shaft to attach the reflective tape to?

@RcModwerks23 2 жыл бұрын

That is a DIY piece I made from a pinion gear

@cage-rattler 2 жыл бұрын

@@RcModwerks23 did you just grind down the teeth?

@RcModwerks23 2 жыл бұрын

@@cage-rattler nope, I glued a plastic piece around it

@cage-rattler 2 жыл бұрын

@@RcModwerks23 Thanks. Just got my tach delivered and anxious to start testing a few motors. Going to start breaking in some brushed motors and want to see the difference from out of the bag to broken in.

@R-EVLMNKY 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Sir, Is the surpass 4300kv with 60A esc platinum combo fine to run up to 3s?(but I mostly run 2s) I just want to do some pop up wheelies and fair speed on my wltoys A979b truck now with bigger 80mm wheels...thanks for the videos! 👍🏻😊👍🏻

@cds1223 3 жыл бұрын

I just blew up my 60amp esc with the 4300 kv on 3s surpass platinum combo. About the 3rd run but it was a 4x4 MT. I only ran it because thats what was in the combo and awaiting my 120 amp. :/. Sorry. Be careful.

@RcModwerks23 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, there will be no issue for the 4300 kv motor to run on 3s since it will only be around 47k RPM (which is not yet exceeding the 50k Max RPM recommended by most manufacturers).The more sensitive piece is the ESC, so just make sure that you will get a good one and 2s-3s capable. I don´t own a Platinum series ESC so I can´t comment about it. Thanks for watching my videos! 👍

@RcModwerks23 3 жыл бұрын

@CDS ....Yes, we should always be careful with the ESC (personally I always check the Temps) because it is the part which usually fails instead of the motor. The cheaper brands generally are more prone to getting burned when abused or misused, but I also saw many expensive one like Castle Mamba ESCs that also get smoked. So, as you said, be careful.

@R-EVLMNKY 3 жыл бұрын

@@RcModwerks23 thanks, will look for 80A or stay with just using 2s on it👍🏻😊👍🏻

@R-EVLMNKY 3 жыл бұрын

@@cds1223 thanks, will look for 80A or stay with just using 2s on it 👍🏻😊👍🏻

@niklasmoller4121 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting video! The last motor did 41,996 rpm and was the fastest, but in the comparison picture at the end those numbers are wrong.

@RcModwerks23 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, true ! That was a typo error ... thanks for watching 👍

@niklasmoller4121 2 жыл бұрын

@@RcModwerks23 It doesnt matter, its one of the best videos Ive seen in a while! Keep up the good work!

@RcModwerks23 2 жыл бұрын

@@niklasmoller4121 Thanks for those encouraging words ! 👍

@MrPD-uu7wr 2 жыл бұрын

just subscribed on your channel sir, your vid comparison is very clear, may i know if i can use a simple 3s lipo batt on 3650 5200kv brushless, it says 9.6v is the max voltage. im using an unbranded 120a esc. thank you

@RcModwerks23 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, yes you can run it with 3s but watch the temperature so that motor will not overheat... 5200 kv will be very fast even with 2s lipo only

@RcModwerks23 2 жыл бұрын

Which model of rc car you have?

@MrPD-uu7wr 2 жыл бұрын

@@RcModwerks23 im gonna use it on my built boat ,20 inch outrigger, no gears, direct to propeller.

@RcModwerks23 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrPD-uu7wr I dont have yet any rc boat, but I think there will be no problem since motors on rc boat generally have a cooling system

@MrPD-uu7wr 2 жыл бұрын

@@RcModwerks23 maybe a 3s with a lower c rate, like 25c, 2000mah.will it do?

@nikko9167 3 жыл бұрын

What is your tools to measure rpm ??

@RcModwerks23 3 жыл бұрын

Please check the link shown in the Description 👍 .. it is called Tachometer

@nikko9167 3 жыл бұрын

@@RcModwerks23 sorry i didn't see.. Thanks for your super test 👍

@RcModwerks23 3 жыл бұрын

@@nikko9167 you are welcome! Thanks for your support to this channel... You will see these motors in action soon.

@RcModwerks23 3 жыл бұрын

@@nikko9167 You are welcome, this is the link: DIGITAL TACHOMETER : www.banggood.com/custlink/KK3hHBwygn

@jimiedaytona 2 жыл бұрын

asalam tuan... esc brand surpass ok tak tuan...

@RcModwerks23 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! 👍

@vivotw1787 2 жыл бұрын

聲音小轉速快，才是好的馬達

@RcModwerks23 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! 👍

@digeolrc8586 2 жыл бұрын

What the best one?

@RcModwerks23 2 жыл бұрын

The answer depends on how and where you want to run your rc car ... you can check my other videos using these motors in my Speed Runs. Thanks for watching ! 👍

@digeolrc8586 2 жыл бұрын

@@RcModwerks23 thanks a lot for your suggest my friend

@zaideybzakariazaideybzakar3198 2 жыл бұрын

Hello,can suggest me,which best power brushless motor for 200km?

@RcModwerks23 2 жыл бұрын

Which model is your rc car? You got a very high goal of 200 km/h ... i think None of these motors can get you there. .. you need to look for a TP motor and Castle ESC for that speed goal.

@zaideybzakariazaideybzakar3198 2 жыл бұрын

@@RcModwerks23 hello,rc model buggy 124019,?

@RcModwerks23 2 жыл бұрын

@@zaideybzakariazaideybzakar3198 There are only 2 persons who were able to reach 200+ km/h with 124019 and they are using TP motor

@zaideybzakariazaideybzakar3198 2 жыл бұрын

@@RcModwerks23 tq,all the best

@RcModwerks23 2 жыл бұрын

@@zaideybzakariazaideybzakar3198 Thanks, no problem 👍

@RickSanchez-vr6ok 2 ай бұрын

Do you have any problem running the Surpass Hobby KK series 3650 with those BLUE ESCs? I'm trying to have a similar setup for my beetleweight battle bot using the 3650 4500KV + 120A blue ESC.

@zepol100 3 жыл бұрын

Link to the motors?

@RcModwerks23 3 жыл бұрын

please check the Description box, but some of these motors are no longer available since I bought some of them 2 years ago

@facbecrawmid1188 3 жыл бұрын

Hello, very good engine comparison. I wanted to ask you if an ESC 80A Surpass Hobby would break down with a surpass hobby kk 3650 7700kv motor (max 95A amps) and a 7200mah 7.4v lipo battery? I think that due to my ignorance I should have bought a 4500kv motor (max amps 75A). Thank you for your help in advance.

@RcModwerks23 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks ! I dont have that specific ESC, but it sshould be OK since I was also using a Hobbywing 80A ESC with my 7700kv motor without any issues. The motor will easily get hot due to the high kv, so you only need to watch the ESC & motor temps. 👍

@clintmackenzie3419 2 жыл бұрын

95Ah @ its max voltage but at 7.4V Lipo (8.4V) it may only simmer, But! your right prolly should of gone for a lower kv to start with and work your way up the motors are pretty cheap these days

@tooleyzrc1973 2 жыл бұрын

Would you please start showing the name/brand of each motor before you test it. Not just the specs. Thanks. It would really help.

@RcModwerks23 2 жыл бұрын

Please check the Description box. Thanks for watchng !

@zeurdozeurdo5409 3 жыл бұрын

Hello You can give me tips for a full engine for a 124019 wltoys Thanks in advance

@RcModwerks23 3 жыл бұрын

All these motors will be good for Wltoys 124019, but the selected kv will depend on what is your goal . Higher kv motor is faster but it will be hotter than the lower kv.

@zeurdozeurdo5409 3 жыл бұрын

@@RcModwerks23 Just for a leisure ride, I'm a beginner. Thank you

@RcModwerks23 3 жыл бұрын

@@zeurdozeurdo5409 you can get 3600 kv to 4300 kv and pair it with 60 amp ESC .... the stock motor is comparable to 3200 kv, so you will get even faster than the stock motor

@zeurdozeurdo5409 3 жыл бұрын

@@RcModwerks23 Thank you I found an engine 3660 4000kv max10 SCT

@RcModwerks23 3 жыл бұрын

@@zeurdozeurdo5409 that´s a good electronics combo 👍