They will in anyway insure you. 🤓

Right they are with the gov.

As an MS patient, I lost my faith in it all, especially when my neurologist follows the MS society who in turn follows the CDC. Most patients I notice let their doctors guilt them into taking advice without question. I've found too many short comings in doctors knowledge that should be a given or they should have asked instead of assuming. Like a specialist I saw assumed I regularly got steroids for MS 🤦 Wrong kind of MS. Or a GP assuming the lumbar was regularly imaged 🤦 when the spinal cord stops at L1-2 and I wanted my lumbar checked for worsening of DDD. Just to name a couple 😑

Me too. 32 years a nurse and now vaccine injured

@@donnazukadley7300 Oh geez, sorry to hear that

Lied? or just dont know? either way it is unsettling

don't know???? unsettling!!! @@user-py2nz4qx8f

@@user-py2nz4qx8f yeah I still have drs pushing c-vac still!

Yup! My thoughts exactly

OMG they never said that, only anti-vaxers spread that nonsense. We know we can still get covid, just not as bad of a case that might kill us. As for spreading covid, duh, of course it's possible if you have covid.

"safe and effective".

@@loop1479 yep, saving lives!

No one has ever said that if you get vaccinated you will not get covid-19. Why? There is no vaccine for any disease that gives you 100% protection against the disease! getting vaccinated does reduce spread (but not a well as it was hoped) by reducing the chances of you getting infected (but that wanes).

What I find interesting is when Pfizer hands an FDA commitee their own research. The company providing the research that will make them more money is doing their own research. To me, that is a red flag.

Read page 137 of the book "The Real Anthony Fauci" it exposes where Paul Offits loyalties lie and it isn't with us or our Children my friend.

Often, they do have positive intent, but they are ignorant/incompetent. The evidence for this is that they do the same to their children/family or friends. I mean giving wrong/harmful advice. We live in an idiocracy. Idiots on the top.

I don’t think it his optimism. Fact is he’s one of them and obviously already borderline because he’s not 100% in agreement

You definitely wouldn't have his optimism if you read the book "The Real Fauci". I had to stop reading halfway, just couldn't take it anymore. Was getting so upset with how the public gets duped over and over, and we keep lining up for more.

Even with data, mandates should not be in place

In reality it was never a vaccine mandate, but a mandated, forced and coerced participation in a scientific experiment without informed consent, compensation or liability. First do no harm. To acknowledge the harm then essentially gloss over and dismiss it & the harm that will be done with "we'll just have to wait and see" is criminal.

@@bobshenatzky5576 Have you even watched the video? Can you give examples of where your parallels are coming from?

@Jason Johnson He should! Because he’s smart! He would actually being seeing a doctor who’s not a lap sitter of the establishment

@@geraldmacneil8995 How could you possibly need examples… did you watch the video

I don’t know that we are outliers. 75% are not biting. Maybe we are. Can’t figure it out. Feeling like a political orphan.

The problem with saying the science does not support it is that even this guy who dr z brought on started hedging on his initial hypothesis which was science does not support getting a booster. He basically went from saying there is no benefit to saying well there are benefits. Lol

And I hope you are recognizing your party doesn’t support science. They use it to control people just like everything else they say and do.

@Jason Johnson She said the science does not support a "mass" booster policy... mass implies for all. Yes, boosters are good for some people. People should have a choice. I think we all agree on that.

Hope you are still not a progressive Dem. Anyone who thinks giving up any freedom to our government after seeing how far they will go to lie. Blatantly lie. Fauci, Walensky, Biden all directly lied. And these vaccines only work for a few months and actually hurt your protection.

If only you had any idea how many people whined about "bodily autonomy" only to regret their words bitterly when they landed in the hospital and on a ventilator because they made excuses for refusing the booster shot!

@@SpectatorAlius gimme a break - you ain’t even making a real case

@@SpectatorAlius i would bet many of those who ended up in the hospital that were unvaxed knew the gravity of their decision. What they didn’t know is the doctors there were captured by their administrators to not save their life but to only prescribe what Fauci allows. And this is why people die. Not because of covid of being unvaxed but because hospitals are stopping doctors from being doctors.

@@WeJamWorld How would you know? You couldn't recognize a real case being made if your life depended on it.

@@kphawaii You drank the antivaxer Kool Ade. We simply do not have effective therapeutics for COVID 19. The vaccines *are* the best medicines we have for it. Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying.

The fact that you trusted the health officials and took the shot to then be dismissed and left alone to deal with the consequences is so disheartening.

There is a bigger problem with VAAERS: there is absolutely no quality control on the data. Nobody really knows what really happened to the people reporting adverse effects. We *certainly* do not know it was the vaccine that caused it.

This is so horrible. May I ask how old was she? If its ok with you. Now i am concerned. Why would it be difficult to report ?

The lot number should be found on the vaccine card. Do you see it? Can you ask your mom's doctor to submit it?

You have to have all of the lot number and information for the vaers. They send you several weeks of check ins text asking how you feel and if your feel your heal is getting worse or the same. When a co worker had some issues after receiving the shot I work in health field our Chief RN reported it. Officially. Due to the reaction or side effect the coworker. They have been following her and touching base. So the medical facility does report and an autopsy should have been conducted also.

BINGO

Vaccine mandates are all fun and games until you don't want another dose and cannot get an exemption. Maybe at that point, you will understand the importance of informed consent and bodily autonomy.

EXACTLY!!! I have been saying this all along! You like it until they come after YOU. 🙄 Ridiculous!

@@amberlindberg3435 Something is very wrong with those who want to force others to do anything.

He "personally" didn't agree with it by using his scientific expertise.

Makes you wonder what might be on his mind that he will speak out about in another 18 months?

He just used the word insurrection unironically. So.

Everybody who took high school biology knows that toots. I’m in my fifties and still remember it because we deal with it every winter! Is it a cold or do I now have an infection? Why do they push a new flu vax every year? Because it’s different mutations spreading. We act like we’ve had lobotomies when we take in news. It’s not like we don’t know that there’s a prompter and these people are actors. They read lines with emphasis. Yet when they speak of the untouchable they drip superiority. Like these two at the start of the cast. It was sort of gross. And now after 18 months of tv doctors not thinking for themselves for one minute, taking cues from politicians and news anchors and marches, now the Goya’s eat those words. They know they do. But they’d rather let this whole place fester than apologize and admit that they got lost and led us badly. Most people would accept an apology. Some won’t. And they deserve it.

Regarding Covid-19 the concept of natural immunity was misinformation and a conspiracy theory.

Read page 137 of the book "The Real Anthony Fauci"...it exposes where Paul Offits loyalties lie....and it ain't with you, me or our Children.

It’s also sexist and misogynistic asf, female erasure at its finest.

I also don’t like the term but this analogy is a mess

@@jasong7373 Yes I understand, surely it was not a moment of inspiration. I will think a better one.

What do you expect from these ultraliberal genderless baphomets

Every tradesman knows that ANY tool can be a hammer... Then again, tradies are one of the groups least likely to care about political correctness. You should watch a bunch of sparkies when you tell them they are not allowed to call the "diagonal cutters" what they normally call it...

It is reckless. Vaccines use to be safer too. This one was not fully tested. No one knows what we did to our bodies long term.

With this one pretty much everyone should get it

@@strnglhld No, it is not a good idea to get it. It is for the covid that is past. Why get now? Risk other problems later. Seems reckless. . .

I notice the same vacinated seems to have a long term cough and always look like they have problem with their sinus

This story is made up lol

So many people die in car accidents even after wearing a seatbelt…curious LMAO

Don't press your luck. There have been numerous studies showing that natural immunity actually wanes *faster* than vaccine immunity. It is more "broad spectrum", since APCs present a much wider variety of viral protein fragments, but what good does that do you once you are 10 weeks out and immunity is waning? As for your report of your neighbors, this is still the cold season, most people cannot tell the difference between Omicron and a cold -- that is why we are trying to get test kits to everyone. And there is a bigger problem with your sampling of 'neighbors'. You say "two doses at least -- but there is a *huge* difference in protection between two and three doses -- especially when so many people got their 2nd shot 20 weeks ago, so that its protection has waned now.

@@jasons9087 So maybe the seatbelts are not doing what they were supposed to be doing? Curious.....

Offer wouldn't

Hell no they'd force them to answer real questions

No, he wouldn't. He's a pseudo intellect with a HUGE ego.

Yeah, that would never happen. The veil would be lifted.

ZDoggMD acts like an elitist when it comes to debating the other side. He’s above it.

Are you aware of the Spanish flu pandemic with NO VACCINES? How 'ridiculously powerful' were the immune systems of the estimated 50 million who died then?What about the victims of bubonic plague, smallpox, polio? At no point in human history have we lived longer, had better protection against deadly diseases, or had the ability to effectively treat chronic illness. What's TRULY amazing is that people who have never been part of actual scientific research teams actually believe that they have greater knowledge, experience and intelligence than those AROUND THE WORLD whose expertise is built on years of dedicated study. Any ideas. Please reply.

When this man talks to "you" who are you? 3, 18, 65, 81.5 year old, pregnant woman, without cormorbidities or without,? A previously unvaccinated infected who is has recovered, a vaccinated "you" that didn't feel too great after the first, second or booster? What hypocrisy the way this man tries to belittle VAERs reporting, What the f is going on here!!?? Yes, they are beyond forgiving. That ship has really sailed. And the tribe BS can be slung back to where it should go. This is beyond tribal. Thanks for your comment.

@@plintdillion286 Plint, he simply pointed out that VAERs isn't a controlled and is therefore not reliable. He's speaking as a scientist. I find it fascinating that all of us can watch a video in which both people in the video advocate that mature adults need to get vaccinated and that the case for a full regimen is much less convincing for young people. Yet, the majority of the comments are still against vaccination and conspiracy prone.

I take away that this is an attempt at damage control. These doctors are biased and have seen their credibility be challenged and now want to fight to keep it. As you say that ship has sailed.

I already lost a lot of trust on Doctors lol. It's like none know what they're doing and are just following recipes for symptoms and never dig further. Sometimes it even feels like the patient is being treated like a paycheck and not a human being. Did the goal move from healing to encouraging constant visits and adding more pills to the cocktail that don't change anything at some point? It's ridiculous and this made it even worse.

@@riel0563 these two refer to doctors who work for the establishment and only site studies from the CDC and only bring credit to natural immunity after the CDC sites it. They mentioned the freedom rally and slander two doctors when they are representing 17,000 with verified signatures. The bias is so obvious. When they talk they repeat how vaccination is a must and only question should you get more after the second. It is amusing watching them squirm and get animated for being challenged on their narrative by 17,000 doctors who disagree with them. Clown show. They can claim the be centre but it is easy to see through the ruse.

Doesn’t apply to Covid patients either

Other countries recognize a recent, positive infection as a reason to delay a further dose. I do not know why NY or our country does not recognize the value of an recent infection, which you survived well enough to continue daily life. It could be a simple blood test to measure the antibodies from infection,since they can differentiate them from vaccine antibodies. Perhaps a person would need to have a certain threshold of natural antibodies to get approved to pass on a booster? I do not support taking vaccines which are not needed. I have had my vaccines and booster by choice. If NY and California looked at the data on Delta and concluded previous infection was protective from Delta, shortly they should know if the same could be true with Omicron. It’s worth knowing. www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/prior-covid-infection-more-protective-than-vaccination-during-delta-surge-us-2022-01-19/

You know you are correct. We all know you are right. The people in charge are sick

In Connecticut, I need another dose, too! Even if it was 10 days ago the positive test, they say I'm ok to get vaccinated! And this is a hospital that has seen a 5 fold myocarditis rate in children from vaccination than any other place in the US! I think they're doing a study on this right now why the rate was so high here!

Think about all of the surges happening to your system. The system will become fatigued or overactive, one or the other. So within a year: Jab 1&2- system reacts C19 infection- system reacts Jab 3- system reacts Omicron- system reacts all of that along with heightened stress is a lot going on.

Thank you for this comment!

I’ve been doing the same and it’s so disheartening when i see people being ridiculed and dismissed, being labeled anti-vaxxers just for questioning health officials. it’s not like ALL doctors agree on vaccines, mandates etc.

@@AAS-fr7bm exactly. There is so much nuance that isn't being addressed.

As someone reading a lot of studies myself, did you also here him saying: myocarditis 1 in 20.000. I mean how many studies do we have now showing it’s far below 1:5000, one from Hong Kong with 1:2750. is it just me who thinks, when did he get updated lately.?

@@81sante Yes, very strange. It's sad but there's no incentive for them to look deeper into all that "petty" stuff.

@@heynow01 where was this discovered? What's the source of the discovery? I sincerely want to know.

I understood him to be saying that there ISN'T an incentive to keep patients hospitalized. However, there IS a kind of incentive to get patients in and out of the hospital as quickly as possible.

@@heynow01 Oh dang. I do not know the "quack" search engine. Therefore I cannot wink. 😐

@@heynow01 OMG, too funny! Did not know about that search engine! No really. So, what should I search? COVID kickbacks? Or?

The payments come from the CARES act. There are payments to reimburse hospitals for positive covid tests, respirator use, remdisavir use, even deaths. Reimbursements seems logically, but the economic stimulus may impact the medical choices of for profit hospitals.

I know he has admitted in the past that he dislikes using the term "anti-vaxxer." Although still uses it for lack of a better term

He wants to be seen as alt.middle, but he really is not.

@@aikoshimada3167 he very much is, or at the VERY least, slightly left of center, but even then, he's against the mandates so... Yeah. Maybe slightly right of center.

Most use "antivax" term for lack of a better one . Most of the misinformation on Covid vaccines originated from antivaxers (no vaccines) so the term stuck describing those against Covid vaccines.

@@matthewparsons9407 anti-mandate is the better term

Seeking confirmation bias?

@@ish7957 it is literally opposed to everything we know about how our immune systems work to presume that natural immunity doesn't work. And it is especially silly considering the narrow protection of these particular vaccines (a SINGLE protein structure of the virus is used), to think that immunity from the jab would be better. It is completely foolish, short of strong evidence otherwise.

@@inthefade are you vaccinated?

@@ish7957 Do you think it has any relevance to our conversation?

@@inthefade yes it does. Are you vaccinated?

Thank you for saying this ! Literally what i thought

I am a nurse and have a friend working in labor and delivery. She has seen some very sick moms with clotting issues. They are collecting placentas and are studying them.

@@MNP208 vaccinated women? I’m not attacking I just want to know

@@AAS-fr7bm No, unvaccinated women.

I agree. Lifetime dem, the first time really voting against a dem was I voted to recall newsome in Cali. I wasn’t going to but every single ad I saw was him boasting about instituting vaccine mandates, proud of it like it was the right thing to do. I’m vaccinated and boosted but the vaccines don’t stop transmission so the argument for community help doesn’t carry. It’s also just a parent I know what’s good for you approach. That’s not American. Do we outlaw cigarettes then? These mandates have shown just how elitist people like newsome are.

Please vote on the midterms election,we have to start showing those people who’s in charge,be safe 👍

@@damiantirado1515 Republicans AND Democrats, AND EVERYONE who has voted for them‐ *ARE the problem.* Democrat n Republican are two sides of the same coin; two branches of the same party.

Sont vote. It truly is the dempublican party. All against the common man and true freedom

@@keisi1574 when is comes down to the hunger money and power it is the same for the leaders, but very different approaches at the heart. Though repubs have been less zealous about limited social spending. They just don't want new spending without it being paid for, in order to prevent inflation. Dems believe it is okay to go deeper in debt if it is for a good cause.

Same with Malone. It’s like he gets his information on Malone/McCollough/RFK from secondary media sources which distort and misrepresent what they say. And it’s a real disservice to those of us who have heard compelling points from them, and need to know why these points aren’t valid. Instead, zdogg and others can’t even state what Malone/RFK say in a semi-accurate manner. It’s very frustrating.

People are constantly maligning RFKJr, Malone and many others without ever responding to the things that they are saying. It's so unscientific to smear individuals rather than using data to counter their arguments.

Both of these lame doctors are matrix bot schills

@@danaworkman2565 this is just wrong, I've seen Malone say the exact things they claimed he said in this video. Why does Malone continue to repeat the Vaers disinformation? Name a single claim from this video that is false or out of context, that goes for RFK jr. as well. Name a single specific thing talked about here that is a misrepresentation, and not RFKjr. being anti-vax, he is effectively antivax but still. People like you constantly post on videos that debunk your hero's claims but never offer a counterpoint, you just complain. It is by no means apparent that you even understand what was said in this video, and my hunch is you didn't watch much of it.

@@reeceh78 Watched the whole thing, so you might need to revise your ideas about “people like me”. . He said Malone claims there is an “international conspiracy” by hospitals and medical personnel. Then he “debunks” this claim by stating how busy he is personally and how no one has time for that. So he implies that hospital staff/doctors are being accused of this massive conspiracy, which is completely misstating Malone’s position. Malone’s position is that, various high-level actors have conspired to promote certain narratives. For instance, Malone often talks about the ‘trusted news initiative’, which is an international alliance of mainstream news organizations, pharmaceutical companies, and wealthy donors like Gates and Soros- who literally control what types of information is promoted (and discredited) in news outlets all over the world. He has also talked about “fact-checkers” like Reuters that have personally gone after him- and he has pointed out that Reuters is owned by a Pfizer board member. There are the famous emails from Fauci and Francis Collins where they clearly conspire to suppress information they deem dangerous, despite scientific studies that suggest otherwise (essentially killing discourse). Malone talks about these (and other) SPECIFIC examples of people in power trying to silence, censor, and discredit experts who disagree with them. Malones “bottom line” is, this is not how good science is done. Zdogg, however, doesn’t state any of these points. Instead, he summarizes everything Malone says as “he claims there is an international conspiracy to hide the truth about Covid”, and then worse- he gives his personal experience as evidence that’s not true. The implication is that Malone has said all mid-level doctors at your local hospital are in cahoots together, which is obviously ridiculous. And you seem to be validating this ridiculous misrepresentation- I assume because it’s an easy way to discredit Malone without actually having to address his points. Now, I can be FAR MORE specific. I can give many more points that Malone makes that are completely misrepresented by zdogg. But a more accurate “summary” of Malone’s points, in my estimation, is: (1) only vaccinate high risk individuals (2) the science is constantly changing and we should not be censoring discussion on it- ESPECIALLY on people who are clearly qualified to give opinions. (3) There is data that suggests the vax could be dangerous to children- we don’t know for sure- but the risk of covid is so low in kids that it is very hard to scientifically/conclusively support mandating vaccination (and masking) for children. (4) politics have really controlled (and hindered) our ability to respond to the pandemic. Political actors need more accountability and less power in these situations. Now none of those points is radical. But if zdogg said that, he wouldn’t be able to quickly and arrogantly dismiss them as outrageous. So you wanted more specifics, and I can keep going, but I think I’ve expanded on why zdogg is really misrepresentating and slandering Malone in this video.

Data from South Africa was correct with Omicron. However people still question the South African data because the data came from 'Africa.'

Looks like the third dose works, then.

@@professorstaceycamp what makes you come to that conclusion?

@@professorstaceycamp I dunno, my unvaxed are also relatively asymptomatic. I am vaxed with two myself. I just had the omicron varient. There were more side effects from the 2nd dose than symptoms with omicron. Maybe the original covid 19 strain would have caused me problems. I got my second dose about a year ago. Appears that the vaccine provided good long term protection for me. Ive heard that it is just about as good as immunity from infection. Some odd reason despite me having had the infection work has mandated that i get boosted too. I have some issues with this. I have yet to find anyone who can provide any real reason why a booster is necessary so soon after infection other than political.

I am triple vaxxed as is my husband. My children are double vaxxed. None of us have had COVID yet, and I work with a lot of folks, including some COVID positive people. I wear PPE for one of my jobs and have been protected. Perhaps we have all been asymptomatic at some point, but so far we have not been sick for over 3 years and we have also had absolutely no reaction to any of the vaccines. My father, who is 74, just recovered from omicron and was minimally ill. He is triple vaxxed.

Malone regrets taking the vaccine and is vocal on the lies about it's efficacy and safety.

Yes he took the Moderna vaccine when he got the virus. Long before we knew that what Fauci said was a lie.

@@notoillegals1 he already had covid and had a ridiculously bad reaction to the shot. When you hear him tell the story, you can tell, at the time of his shot, he was proud of the work he had done early on with this technology. Once he had his side effects and researched the limitations of the actual trials, including not testing on previously infected individuals, did he recognize the disaster we were heading for. To your point, he's VERY much against shots for kids, but tends to be for it for older people, which makes sense. He's most certainly not anti vaxx and these two clowns know that.

Malones main message has ALWAYS been that people should have the choice, information should not be censored, and people at low risk (kids) should not be vaccinated. The thing that gets Malone in “trouble” is that he presents the scientific data about vaccine side effects, potential risk, and waning efficacy. The things that zdogg attributes to Malone in this video are ridiculous. It’s infuriating to see him misstate Malones positions and then mock him for it. But I’ve seen this from zdogg before with Geert Vanden Bossche. Zdogg is great until he tries to address what he sees as opposition. Then he acts like a 5 yr old and misrepresents and mocks people with valid points (that he seems unaware of)

I really don’t think they do know that? They seem like they get their info on Malone from the NYT lol. It’s wildly inaccurate. But then because they are misinformed (I guess) they go on to mock these people and their “followers”. And it’s very off-putting. I got so excited when zdogg said “let’s look at Malone dispassionately”… then he proceeded to completely butcher Malones position and mock him. Huge let down, but pretty typical these days.

“Mandating answers “! I like that!

🎯 👍

Yes !!!!

Also anti vaxxer is loaded with all kinds of connotations. Like being into homeopathy and flat earth and stuff.

It's always been that. And the parties names and platforms have changed many times.

I think people who wore the masks diligently, stayed home, followed every rule are now so tired and it did not work. The vaccinated still got Covid. Omicron was not as deadly, yet we were locked down where I live. You are not alone. There are millions of people like you. Now you want to skip one shot and you become an anti-vaxxer! You can lose your job. It's not fair! No, it's not. It has not been all along. What do we call this thing we went through? Medical tyranny? Authoritarianism? Many are getting red-pilled to now know this was more than just a medical response - but what was it?

yup exactly. They are lying too make him look as if he's a hard-core anti vaxer and conspiracy theorist. That way people who are on the fence, quickly side with the vaccine. So far ive caught two lies, those about Malone and the part about the vaers where it's easy to submit that you turned into the hulk. You need to put specific information and it takes 45mins to complete. Not buying what these guys are selling me. Will still keep on open mind and look at sources without bias. So far, I don't want my booster. I'll take my 8000IU of vitamin D daily.

You can also turn into Unvaccinated even after your Booster shot. Like women in LA could turn back into virgins if plastic surgeons do surgery at the right location.

@@ytcomms3945 not true

@@truthteller2711 which part? You might understand TROOF but apparently not SARCASM.

Yeah I guess if you care or listen to whatever a random bunch of small people say

Exactly

There's a small county in Canada that went from 10 a year to 60. Very concerning.

@ Sharon Abdalla, friend’s mother in 70’s. Had booster and now spotting.

Nursing school did not warn you against "post hoc ergo propter hoc"?

It will take people collectively speaking out on what they are seeing and experiencing first had for people to really know truth. "Truth" is too relative, censored, and manipulated otherwise.

Yikes...

oh wow, i havn't been labelled that yet. I'm holding off on the booster because i'm not in a high risk group and everyone is catching and spreading Omicron anyway. I'n not worried about mild illness and it annoys me that this booster isn't even the correct vaccine for this variant.

Same

Welcome to the club. We're growing every day.

I understand. Just know it’s a very small and unsophisticated way of thinking. Unfortunately it’s all a lot of people are capable of.

@Jason Johnson really? Wow you’ve been fortunate to be protected from the talk of the herds.

God bless you. Thank you for sharing your story.

I totally agree with you. I'm still trying to make sense of this strange world in which we all live now. I just wanted you to know that you're not alone.

That is what the VAERS database is for. It collects all those grains of sands and then those grains can be examined to see if further follow-up is needed. This is how the blood clots issue with J&J was detected.

🤔

@Dogan it takes about 20 minutes to use VAERS. I doubt many doctors want to take that time.

@Dogan yer those terrible anti vaxers who got vacinated & had an adverse effect. 🤣😂😅

​@Dogan Do you realize how incredibly biased you have to be to dismiss VAERS data completely? The form takes at a minimum 15 minutes to fill out, and it is a federal crime to make false reports. Plus, CDC removes entries that are clearly fake. Even CDC admits there is no evidence that there is widespread fraud. Still not convinced? Let's take it a step further then. More than half of the reports are filed by medical personnel, so even if we make an outrageous assumption that ALL the other reports are bogus/filed by "antivaxxers", the remaining adverse events is still enough to raise alarms. VAERS data is useful for detecting potential problems that need to be investigated; it doesn't prove that there's something wrong, but to ignore it completely and assume it's "flooded by anti-vaxxers" is irresponsible at best and at worst dishonest. In my opinion, your stance is no better than that of anti-vaxxers who assume every single VAERS incident is caused by the vaccine. You guys have the same thought process but just happen to be on different sides of the issue. www.science.org/content/article/antivaccine-activists-use-government-database-side-effects-scare-public [Some worry this might make it easy to post false reports. But CDC removes data that are clearly fake, such as a recent report purportedly filed by Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro about an adverse event in a beach volleyball superstar. And deliberate, false reporting to VAERS, which is a federal criminal offense, appears to be rare. "We don't have evidence that there is widespread fraud or gaming of the system," says Tom Shimabukuro, deputy director of CDC's Immunization Safety Office, which oversees VAERS. "We have to balance keeping VAERS an open system and getting as much information as we can on vaccine safety against potential data quality problems."]

Well said

The manner in which anti-vax and anti-mandate are conflated seems to be a big problem in news reporting, but not so much for most people whose views aren't echoing one extreme of political spectrum or the other. I see it as a personal choice for your own well-being, and no amount of mandating will encourage people; rather it seems to have the opposite effect: more division. Go figure.

What if it was a choice and not dictated?

Well if it wasn't for the anti-vaccine movement, we wouldn't need vaccine mandates.

@@plintdillion286 Anti-mandate is choice. "The Narrative" is anti-mandate = anti-vax and it's false and divisive. It's binary and backs people into corners.

Maybe one dose to get us over the hump for new virus that just escaped from a Chinese lab, since the body would be unprepared, but after that we depend on our immune systems.

Yearly, no Once every four months, yes

Page 137 of the book "The Real Anthony Fauci" exposes who Paul Offit really is.

@@openyoureyes3969 thank you ... yes I am reading it now. Z Doggie should be renamed Zee Traitor to Humanity (said with a french accent of course)

I know of three people with 1° of separation Who all had blood clots within a short period of time following vaccination. All under 50

Z Dogg don't give a shit . He's been pushing this experimental vaccine the whole time and giggles when Dr Offit laughs about the doctors all introducing themselves like it's funny. Z Dogg is a puke that does this all for clicks . Why didn't Dr. Paul Offit stand for what he believes in with natural immunity? He could have went public and stood up for what's right , but they all just giggled and said ohh well . People like both these men should be held accountable for at the very least complicity . Not ZDogg . He has laughed with his smugg face the whole time , because that's what the CDC and the FDA told him so it must have been true . These guys are sick humans

Doctors are supposed to do no harm? Almost, if not every industry, is out to make money and get repeat customers. They make money if everyone is sick, not if they're well. But it's tricky because they have to try to not get caught when they make you sick.

I agree. If they are so confident that these are safe then the protection from liability should have been lifted long ago!

@@republicoftexas3261 Do you know that claiming worker's comp means you can't sue the employer but don't have to prove employer guilt? Something pretty similar applies with vaccines. Since the variability in lawsuits is so extreme, a lot of businesses are unwilling to take risks until those risks are made more predictable. Worker's Compensation is one way it happens. Employer's pay in a fixed amount and don't have to worry about the huge variability that lawsuits involve. Vaccine injury compensation programs work on a similar basis except that claimants have to prove some kind of causation (at a standard of proof far lower than a real legal case). Much like worker's compensation programs, the standards for claiming vaccine injury compensation are made low but people confuse that substitution for being utterly unaccountable.

@@Lawofimprobability the problem is that vax manufacturers have no accountability for poor safety, particularly now.

Tell them they have 2 choices take on full responsibility for side effects: in a peaceful way or violence can be used to get even for any side effects

The reason for the law protection is to prevent those companies from being destroyed from frivolous lawsuits. Especially when it comes to pharmaceutical companies.

"This justifies the amount of taxpayer overfunding you put on us!" When most of these government institutions shouldn't even exist.

I trust people, especially doctors, who have lost money and reputation. They are not, like this guy, trying to monetize a youtube channel. Honest scientists sounded crazy but they have been right from the beginning and SUFFERED for it. The scientists and doctors willing to suffer are the ones I believe: America's Frontline Doctors; FLCCC (Front Line Covid Critical Caregivers); and the signers of The Great Barrington Declaration.

Controversy has never happened before with a vaccine and that experts of all kind are questioning it or even raising the alarm should not be ignored.

That part was super mushy and borderline misinformation. He was also mushy on the justification for kids to get vaccinated. Smart guy, but we heard a lot of bureaucratic talking points rather than references to hard data and studies.

Vaccinated people shed significantly less virus though. He said that too 🙂 I've always understood this in a mathematical way, and possibly a little computer-sciency too (my field of study). If you take any number less than 1, and you continually raise it to an increasingly higher power, it will tend towards zero. Similarly, when you have many possible transmission chains whereby an infection can move between individuals, and you present this as a graph of nodes and edges, even reducing the odds by 30% at each node will not only lower the overall transmission to 0.7 (70%), it will lower it to some power of 0.7. If you treat enough of the nodes, and keeping in mind that the R-value (how many people a sick person infect) is somewhere between 2.3 and 2.7... the result has to be dramatic!

He would show them the front door, open it , kick their axxes out, slam it and lock it! It would be like Rifle Man Vs Andy Griffith .

he has his Dr. Malone on-

@@patrickmcmahon1443 when? Link?

Not a good argument. Most people who make all these sketchy reports are lunatics and hypochondriacs, not liars. And making something illegal has never stopped the public from breaking the laws, especially fanatical movements like the anti--va.cksers.

I liken Twitter and FB hypochondriacs about a respiratory virus as to VAERS hypochondriacs about vaccines

They keep saying things like that, which aren't true. Makes me feel like there is a blind eye being turned. Also theyre painting Malone as an anti vaxer. Malone is just against the mrna covid vaccine. He has a net worth of 18million, I doubt he's salty about the money. Seems like he's speaking out cus it's the right thing to do.

The CDC reviews, verifies, then uploads each report. Its clear whether a report is entered by HC professional or lay person

My understanding, having heard many who have reported, or at least tried, it is a very cumberdome system and not easy to use hence fewer than should report. Even the medically trained and obliged have trouble finding the time.

Natural infection is better.

Just more propaganda meant to keep the people divided.

Zdogg completely misrepresented what Malone says. It was very disappointing after an otherwise quality interview. You can’t correct misinformation until you actually know what the “misinformant” said. And in this case, zdogg sounded like someone who relied on vox to tell him what Malone positions are. As a result his argument- whatever it was- was completely ineffective to me.

the "benefit" to you is that pfizer and moderna would make more money and the politicians who suddenly care about you (but not about the opioid crisis, homelessness, the fact that most americans have literally no financial safety net, etc...) will gain more power. The key to understanding what is happening is to take the 100% cynical view, then it makes perfect sense.

Não se vacine. Continue firme!

it's probably because it helps reduce the spread to other people because being vaccinated reduces the viral load by shortening the period you are infectious.

@@algore92 I had a milder case or ‘less viral load’ than most, if not all, the vaccinated people I know who got infected, so this is still not relevant to me or makes any sense.

@@dearandwild My point is that it would have been reduced had you had the vaccine prior, and that the chances of the people around you who are immune compromised would be reduced. I'm not so sure that because your symptoms weren't that bad, that it automatically translates to less viral load over a period. In either case, getting the vaccine is better in ever metric, whichever way you look at it, but it may not be the drastic improvement youre looking for

Is it a mandated vaccine or mandated testing?

@@DahVoozel Neither should be ! Its all total BS!

I am so sad they politicized the vaccine and it anger me a lot.

How many MMR vaccines are you mandated to give your child? Has that gone up over time? Is there “no end” with that? Does the government mandate a third and fourth dose for your baby? No. Why not? Because everyone is trying their best to make sure your child is effectively protected but not getting useless extra vaccines. The government is not out to get you, to control you, to kill you. They are trying to figure out what helps you and your children not die.

The government is also not infallible. They can’t see the future, and they don’t know what negative impact their mandates will have on their citizens. They are doing the best they can to keep people safe. I am doing the best I can to keep my family safe. Drug companies are doing the best they can to make their stock holders rich. I’m perfectly fine with all of that. But the moment you cross the line into forcing citizens to do something against their will, there is only one possible outcome. Just provide people with accurate information, make whatever recommendations you see fit, and let the people make their own decisions. Anything else would be un-American.

never gonna happen.

Dr Dan Wilson has debated and debunked AntiVaxx nutcases to their face on his channel "Debunk The Funk" and has torn them to shreds.

@@KevinWayneRoar!

Absolutely is, just make sure since you decided not to get vaccinated that if you get Covid you treat it at home and stay out of the hospital so you don’t needlessly fill it up like the rest of the mostly unvaccinated.

@@uglyvision and you should stop driving, riding bicycles, drinking alcohol, playing sports or doing anything else that could cause you to possibly end up in hospital.

@Amanda False Equivalency just like the idiot above. When you get in a car you wear a seatbelt right? You may still die if in a crash but you are doing all you can to avoid death. Look you don’t want to take the vaccine fine, but if you go to the hospital don’t get the montaclonial antibodies or other drugs, those were also made by big pharma. Hopefully you will just ride out the virus. I decided to get the vaccine and I’m pretty confident I’ll be fine and not need hospitalization.

@@uglyvision Hey you just keep living in your fake vaccinated world! Thank god they changed the definition of what a vaccine is instead of actually delivering an actual vaccine. So keep thinking your superior in some way, by only being vaccinated because the definition was changed! Maybe tomorrow they will change another definition and you will a super hero!

@UCo8bRskBIfZNDtgdOxwyTHA LMAO!!!

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You thought you were being clever, but you are not. There are, after all, therapeutics and other vaccines under development. You are not likely to require a fourth dose, far less likely a 5th one. A single shot of the US Army 'pan-coronavirus' vaccine will do the trick.

@@SpectatorAlius Can I borrow your crystal ball? (PS They are already on the 4th dose in Israel.)

@Jason Johnson Orange man has had 3 Covid shots so far, and has repeatedly urged people to do so as well -- so I guess that make YOU a Trump follower.

Ha! Good one. lol.

What is even more shocking is how you got it exactly backwards: it is the anit-vax tribe that believes poppycock instead of science, calling 'research' what is nothing more than a few careless GOogle searches. The real research is *clearly* on the side of the vaccines: they are not only safe and effective, the are more safe and effective than most other vaccines.

@@SpectatorAlius I guess I was unclear. I agree vaccines are safe. I am vaccinated and boosted. HOWEVER, as this channel has discussed many times the issue of vaccinations is very “nuanced”. Meaning as the data comes in from all over the world repeated vaccination MAY NOT be necesssry nor desirable. So in talking to the pro vaxxers many of them are not following the changing landscape of Covid data. This episode with Dr Offitt really highlighted this problem as he gets trolled by these people for just following the science.

@@cambizkhosravi And you get trolled just for asking questions. Why are they shaming us for asking questions? Why is there so much pressure? What if we all reach a point where we don't want to wear masks, aren't' afraid of new variants, don't want another booster, don't want babies vaccinated? Don't we all become anti-vaxxers eventually?

It’s rather disheartening that they were willing to close their minds to actual science for the swill that the cdc and nih and who were peddling!

The same way we did with the Polio vaccines that were fully rolled out one year after the trial.

Because they have a lot to hide ! They were sued and a judge has just ordered them to release the documents within 8 months , I believe

50 years

So how many children deaths or severe covid outcomes are ok with you? 10-20?

@@jasons9087 it doesn't matter how many I think it matters what the individual thinks. You might think 10 or 20 is too many. Someone else may think 1 is too many. There is no right or wrong answer. There is only cost benefit analysis. 0 kids have died in my town of 100k but I know 2 kids who died in 4 wheeler accidents in one month. Guess what we dont stop using 4 wheelers. It's all a matter of how much risk you are ok handling. Personally I live/ work in a very high risk profession. 2 of my direct friends died on the job. I still work said job. Life is risky we have to deal with it

@@jasons9087 None are ok, but when it's very low risk, demonstrating that the virus is more dangerous then the vaccine becomes problematic. The total number of childhood casualties in the USA is around 1000, 2/3rds of which had serious comorbidities. Yes, its GREAT that there's a vaccine for these kids, but when you're getting numbers as low as that (large denominator indeed -- millions) you're getting into peanut allergies, asthma or bee sting types of numbers. One thing for sure, vaccinating kids that already had the virus & recovered ok is beyond stupid. Send that shot to the 3rd world instead where it would do more good.

@@WhiteLightning777 so you are ok with 1000 children dying are you? Especially with vaccines making it preventable? Also, I didn’t know they had vaccines for peanut allergy and bee stings… your analogy is so flawed I can’t believe I have to explain this

@@jasons9087 the question is whether the kids will be harmed more from the shots or from getting Covid. The experts won't know until kids start getting mass vaccinated. My kids were barely symptomatic with Covid. We quarantined. Cost benefit analysis for my kids= no experimental shots.

He is still in a type of denial about these inconsistencies.

@@1GratiaPlena i mean it's not like i expect to get a response. but like, imagine just laughing at a comment like "THE ONLY WAY TO KNOW HOW SOMETHING AFFECTS PEOPLE IS JUST GIVE TO PEOPLE HAHAHAHA" honestly that was disgusting.

So how exactly shall we build this plane without doing it?

@@susancanter2909 concentrate resources and EUA designated pharma on the most vulnerable populations first. A one-size-fits all approach is not only wasteful it’s harmful.

@@susancanter2909 Isn't the answer obvious? Public health needs to be fully transparent even with the data that may be detrimental to their messaging, robust debate should be open and public, and the intervention should be voluntary.

@@susancanter2909 How about allowing early treatments instead of dismissing them because they will stop the EUA status of the leaky liquids.

The pro mandate tribe thinks they are superior and thus have the right to control every aspect of everyone else's life. Putting anti mandate individuals into the class of "anti-vaxxer", which historically has been where the uneducated nut jobs are, is expedient to destroying the credibility of those opposing their over reach of power.

I would disagree. Just because you disagree with the policy doesn't determine whether you deny science or not.

@Jason Johnson

@Jason Johnson Merriam-Webster defines anti-vaxxer as "a person who opposes the use of vaccines or regulations mandating vaccination". Did we forget that Google exists?

No mucosal vaccine stops transmission entirely. But these vaccines do reduce it, make no mistake about it. So if everyone were to take them, we’d likely not have had Delta or omicron or other highly infectious variants.

@@eadler1220 Everything you just said is flat wrong. The people not getting Omicron right now are the ones with natural immunity. Data from the most highly vaccinated places in the world show this. Yes, vax still important for the elderly and certain others in terms of severity of disease but it does not reduce transmission meaningfully and wrt to Omicron may have negative efficacy in terms of infection. Plus mandates wouldn't be justified even if they did what you suggest.

@@eadler1220 your so full of crap. You don’t know that but are just repeating what you hear. Saying that we would not have Delta or omicron is just flat out stupid. You don’t know that nobody does

@@eadler1220 Utter nonsense. The current vaccines did little to stop Delta from spreading and nothing wrt to Omicron. How can a vax that doesn't prevent infection, stop variants from forming? These arguments about "no vaccine stopping transmission entirely" are ridiculous when we're talking about a vaccine that doesn't stop it at ALL. Maybe v.2 of the vaccines will do better...

He does have questions about the vaccine he has questions about the 3rd dose.

He said here the mRna vaccine is the 1st mRna vaccine used so how that is not an experiment? People are been experiment plain and simple. There NO data for long term.

Spot on. My thoughts EXACTLY. Not to mention I heard a lot of “ I love Dr X and Dr Y.” I don’t care who you love. I want to hear evidence based science.

@@sea17wave You have been repeating the same statement that others said many times. The answer is that like all drugs, they did clinical trials to experiment on the drug. Also like all drugs, mass release of it is essentially phase 4 of trials in order to monitor the effects of it to determine any adverse effects that didn’t show up to clinical trials. Fortunately in the case of the vaccine, all the severe ones are rare and far more likely to occur when infected by the virus. It is approaching 2 years since the first vaccines were given. The products of the vaccine degrade quickly. The chances of any long term beyond this point is extremely unlikely.

@@sea17wave With your logic no medicine should ever have been released. Also that is what the clinical trials were conducted for.

Yep. There are always anomalies of people not knowing they had "x" condition prior to getting infected , but by and large if you ARE healthy if you eat nutritious foods, exercise regularly, take vitamins etc you are definitely good to go with not having any of them especially at this point with omicron. I'm 38 and it was a cold with fever off and on for 2 days for me.

Statically, yes.

They will never watch that ! Too much information that conflicts with their beliefs. I made myself sit through this interview to see what both sides were saying. Paul Offit is part of the Big Pharma machine who “loves” Tony Fauci and Rachelle Wolinsky !!! If you want the real truth , please read Robert Kennedy”s book on “The Real Anthony Fauci” which has thousands of references and lays out the absolute corruption and control of our federal health agencies by Big Pharma and how Fauci contributes to all of it.

On gawd, please get us a better Republican candidate. He has gone off the deep end!

@@MNP208 The covid hearing has nothing to do with Ron Johnson personally … he just headed the hearing, which has over five hours of testimony by medical experts… tons of evidence presented. Put politics aside and watch first, then criticize if you must.

@@kathylutter9211 It's a shame that Robert Kennedy is an absolute loon.

@@Jacob-Vivimord Yah....loony with solid facts and solid data.

He has never stated that he has inspected the MRN a vaccine. Ever! People keep saying it every time they have them on the shelf he has never said that. He invented the art and a technology deck keeps the I guess it’s the envelope or whatever anchored and protects it I’m half asleep right now but he never said that he invented the mRNA VACCINE! People need to get off that stupid statement he’s never said that ever he’s never said that once it’s like everybody’s a big puppet and they just repeat everything they hear why doesn’t somebody get on his website and see what really happened involving everything that went down at the Sault Institute in the 80s and early 90s and then maybe everybody will shut up and eat crow because just like this is the dog a hypocrite did the other day I wanted to videos where he totally dogged him alone and said something about him being the inventor he never said that. And if the idiot would go on his website and read what happened maybe he wouldn’t be lying to everybody

Exactly. Rogan has put out a call for debates against Malone and McCullough. Open debate podcasts. No one seems interested, or is stepping to the plate.

@@RavensEdge23 Everyone cares about the money. They don’t want to have their channel taken down, and I don’t want any channel taken down. Someone needs to step up and have the conversation. Get Paul Offit to have that debate if he’s the best man for the job. I have no skin in the game and don’t care “who wins” other than a win for the American people.

@@jhedrich good point.

@@DavidBrown-jt7yi and that pretty much describes the "political science" arena that the world is currently trapped in, while actual science is being "taken down"..

@@RavensEdge23 no doubt.

Then get the J&J shot. It is not an mRNA vaccine. But it is less effective.

...pro or anti vac both presume the definition of virus as pathogen / antigen. It is neither contagious nor able to mutate, evolve etc. These are bodily responses to environmental toxins or process of cellular respiration and elimination. Yes?.

THIS. Malone has been VERY careful to explain his role in the evolution of the technology.

Yeah what they said about Dr Malone. Total nonsense. They should be censored 🤬 for misinformation.

A lot of “debunking” that actually doesn’t debunk. You need data to do that.