We Dyno Tested 6 Different Audi 3.0L Supercharged V6's!!!

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I reached out to the Vancouver Audi Club and asked for everyone with a B8 S4 to join me on the dyno at Racing Greed to see just how much power everyone was making. Sadly when a bunch of people were not able to make it, I had to open the invite to anyone with a 3.0L Supercharged V6 otherwise known as the 3.0T in the Audi world. I had a lot of fun with everyone as they got to see what kind of power their cars made for the first time ever!
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@VancityAudi 4 ай бұрын

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@brockdez1259 2 жыл бұрын

Other KZfaqr’s should take a clue from Adam and his channel, this is how you make a video! So many other channels just video tape themselves going “ohhhh ahhhh, wow it’s fast.” Adam goes to the dyno, the strip, and utilizes a dragy. Perfect

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Let's not tell the other KZfaqrs and instead just take my channel to new heights! Lol! Thanks for the kind words!

@KillerZero259 2 жыл бұрын

And it was the 6MT model that won!!!! Hell yeah to that!!!!

@DJTEDDY507 2 жыл бұрын

Adam, thanks for another incredible video. I like that you use data to showcase the true power of our cars. A lot of tuning companies claim high horsepower numbers, but it is good to see how our cars perform in real life scenarios. This video gave me a better sense of how much power I'm truly pushing. I own a 2013 Audi S4 B8.5, 034 motorsports stage 1 ECU+DSG tune

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome. As much as this video may give you a "sense" of what kind of power you're making you won't know unless you log your car and make sure it's running correctly in the first place as demonstrated by a few cars here. Thanks for watching!

@AJyfm700R 2 жыл бұрын

First video I've seen from you and it feels like a breath of fresh air. Thanks for not overreacting everything.

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I get WAY more excited for how my cars perform than others, lol. Especially when I know they are underperforming.

@Rommellollis 2 жыл бұрын

The 3rd S4 with APR Stage 1 tune...yes it's manual but look also how smooth the dyno graph is compared to the other S4's...really good tune i must say. Well done APR.

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

A lot of that can be attributed to the smoothing on the graph because it made more power we had to raise the max hp limit on the graph which makes the graph look smoother.

@eeiko321 2 жыл бұрын

I think it’s also shows the overall health of his car. Many people assume… eg stage 2+ “yeah I’m on this tune… my cars running xxx hp” When things such as carbon build up (which tHese early direct injection are notorious for) and west and tear of components in the engine/transmission can impact wheel power… it’s probably all shown here.

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

@@eeiko321 It had nothing to do with the health of the vehicle and carbon build up on others. It's very simple actually. Manual B8/8.5's have significantly less drivetrain loss. Seeing as every other car we compared it to was a DSG, it appeared to make more power than the others did.

@eeiko321 2 жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi carbon build up has a lot to do with affecting power! Even if manuals suffer less drivetrain loss compared to DSG, if you notice, all the other readings from in comparison between one another are all over the shop. So as I said, the health of the car is very detrimental

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

@@eeiko321 I'll let you believe what you want to believe. I strongly disagree

@jrf607 2 жыл бұрын

Super interesting to see the wild differences between each car! Very cool video!

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@martinezs89 2 жыл бұрын

That was awesome! I have my self a stg 1 apr 2012 a6. Was cool to see the different tunes out there.

@joevergnetti767 2 жыл бұрын

I have a ‘13 S4 with dual pulleys, Revo stage 2, AWE intake and full exhaust and dyno’d at 450. It sounds and drives amazing…oh on 91 in CO so 5200ft in elev…these 3.0 superchargers are no slouches. It’s lowered and have 034 Motorsport front strut brace and it rides like it’s on rails.

@lukeimoberstag2734 2 жыл бұрын

What part of CO you in? I live in Denver and just picked up a basically stock '10 S4 6MT APR stage 1. Let me know if you'd ever want to link up. Love to feel the dual pulleys and see if its worth upgrading mine more.

@PatrickMatte911 Жыл бұрын

I would love to see each log’s of each dyno run from between the 6 cars. This will give us the REAL winner. I admit i love this test BTW. Nice Job Adam.

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Stay tuned to the channel for more dyno showdowns on the B9 platform!

@toddn.3123 2 жыл бұрын

Love it! Very good comparison video.

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@BoostedYote 2 жыл бұрын

This makes me happy that I only went stage 1 on my A6 and I’m plenty happy with it.

@Rugged_again 2 жыл бұрын

Yo me too!! Apr baby 🙏🏾

@henryp9600 2 жыл бұрын

looking into doing this after considering a pulley and tune, ill start with tune!

@BoostedYote Жыл бұрын

@@Rugged_again 034 all the way

@APRtube 2 жыл бұрын

Great APR Stage 1 results! On the Stage 2 car, log IAT. IAT on the dyno will KILL performance and that's very true with a dual pulley setup that spins the charge much faster. If you're on a dyno with low airflow (a big low CFM fan won't cut it), you'll definitely see power drop off compared to the road. Log IAT and this should become very clear. Once you cross our IAT safety threshold, we open the bypass valve to prevent the engine from eating itself.

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

The owner provided me logs from the street after he suffered performance loss on the dyno. His car is pulling massive amounts of timing on your Stage 2 - DP & TB 93 octane tune. His IAT's were well within reason as well. Although they would have been significantly higher on the dyno, that wouldn't have been the case on the first dyno pull before the car really started to heat up unless something wasn't operating as intended.

@APRtube 2 жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi With higher IAT the ecu will request less timing rather than showing up as knock, unless we're talking about something extreme. If there's a lot of timing pull that's causing issues, check the quality of gas, and use a different gas station. Change the oil and inspect the PCV for blow by. Check the plugs, replace, regap. Inspect for coolant leaks within the cooling bricks. Inspect the cats to ensure they haven't failed.

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

@@APRtube It didn't have high IAT's on his street pull that I was referencing. It was pulling up to 8 degrees of timing at 47 degrees. He has a lot to look into on why it never made the power he should have on that dyno day.

@JT-bu9ln 2 жыл бұрын

Will there eventually be a crackle tune file with the APR B8.5 3.0 tune? Or is there one that could be requested?

@122ffsdd 2 жыл бұрын

@@JT-bu9ln crackle tunes are cringy. Just don't.

@ferdi.b93 2 жыл бұрын

Good job to everyone. APR is as awalys killing it with torque. That's why they are one of my favorite tunes.

@jamesturner2329 2 жыл бұрын

Stage 1 Manual s4 FTW 🙌

@larrrythecableguysoldneigh8899 Жыл бұрын

Dude! Sick video keep the innovation coming!

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@CajunVol 2 жыл бұрын

Great video as always! Big thank you to all the guys who came out to participate. Was hoping to see a little more from the IE Stage 1 - 93. I am going to have to take the S5 with the same IE tune and an APR cold air intake to the dyno so I can get a comparison.

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

Unless you're local, testing on the same dyno, with the same fuel, with the same conditions, with the same fuel, don't expect your results to be a fair comparison.

@CajunVol 2 жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi that is certainly a valid point. Seeing as how I am in the southern states, I won't be able to drop by your dyno shop, LOL! It would still be fun to see what numbers "Jolene" (wife named her that because I can't stay out from under her hood), can put up.

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

@@CajunVol once you've datalogged your car to make sure it is running properly it's always a good time to see what a dyno says it makes for power.

@5Headerino 2 жыл бұрын

I'm IE Stage II Throttle Body, 93 map. I'll be doing a dyno soon and I'll upload the results to youtube (Or I can just reply here if I remember.)

@matthewdiabo2879 Жыл бұрын

@@5Headerino do you happen to remember your dyno results?

@michellguzelgul4267 2 жыл бұрын

Been searching all of youtube for this exact video. Can't believe it just came out same time. Very coincidental. Subscribed.

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks and welcome!

@dsmatts 2 жыл бұрын

My somewhat built 3.0t is on the way back from blackbird.. gonna be interesting to see what we can get out of it..

@salik990 2 жыл бұрын

hey Adam great to see the comparisons, now plz do their dragy run :)

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

As I have already stated in the video, none of these guys race their cars. This was the first time on the dyno for all of them. They don't performance test their cars. They simply modify their cars to enjoy more as a daily driver and that's it.

@devinisonline120 2 жыл бұрын

Great vid!!! would love to see you get the guys together for some test runs with a draggy

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

As I stated in the video, none of these guys race their cars. We won't be shooting that, sorry.

@BoostedYote 2 жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi if you ain’t racing then buy a Prius.

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

@@BoostedYote lol, I agree. Sadly many people out there including these guys don't.

@Rugged_again 2 жыл бұрын

All dope ass Audis!! APR BABY 🔥🔥

@Ryndel 2 жыл бұрын

This channel reminds me of sport compact car magazine back in the day, no fluff.

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

I find there to be enough fluff and bull sh$t in this world. I try my best to simply bring results

@stefandsc1028 2 жыл бұрын

the APR stage 1 tune curve on the manual S4 is 440Nm. strange because that's the stock torque on paper. but where on the stock engine the curve begins to bend downward abruptly at cca. 5200RPM, this one remains flat and consistent. I have a hard time choosing between APR, MTM, and Turboperfomance-punct-de. The results in this video help alot!

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

Not sure you understand how this dyno is reading power. The stock torque is 440nm at the crank. This dyno results shows 408nm at the wheels, not the crank. So you still have to add drivetrain loss into that calculation. I'm also glad you liked the video but you shouldn't base what tune you are buying off of dyno results.

@stefandsc1028 2 жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi fair enough, I forgot to take into account the drivetrain loss. nevertheless the torque curve looks very smooth, if not the smoothest from the test. and the guy said he only had a stage 1 chip tuning, namely the 441PS/535Nm. impressive! PS: also drive a S4 with a manual gearbox, but mine is estate. greetings from Germany!

@Sle3p520 2 жыл бұрын

Just a little disappointed I couldn’t see what the A7’s truly making! I have a ‘16 A6, just installed the Heat exchanger cuz I’m ready to go stage 2 dual pulleys. Great video!

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! We were all disappointed as well. It just serves as a reminder to always datalog your cars because even though every single one of these owners thought their cars were running perfectly, they weren't.

@rhnathan11 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Disappointed the A7 didn't work out. Hope to see it again. Am single pulley on my a7 hoping to getting the IE tune soon.

@wes8398 2 жыл бұрын

You're single pulley without a tune? That means you're basically just blowing off any extra boost you make with the pulley... why only do half the job?

@rhnathan11 2 жыл бұрын

@@wes8398 it's ie stage 1 tune right now. I just didn't have the money at the time.

@stephenosei-kofi9461 2 жыл бұрын

That’s interesting I’m 6MT with Apr stage 1 93 tune but with intake and test pipes. I wonder how much I could pull

@bucdan9242 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. I'm a bit shocked even the single 180mm crank pulley stage 2 cars were having belt slip. I'd understand the slip on a DP setup, but wow.

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

Turned out his IAT's were skyrocketing due to him running a Stage 2 tune with a stock heat exchanger. Once he upgraded his heat exchanger, he made much more horsepower when he went back and dyno tested his car again on his own time.

@MichaelPanzer 2 жыл бұрын

I great to see videos like this! I think this engine is great except for the fuel efficiency. It's just sad that I only see videos about the S4 with that (and the A7 here for a change) because I have it in an A6 Avant 4F with the ZF 6 speed torque converter. I know you never got that model over there and that's a bit sad. Anyway, great video and keep that up! Cheers from Germany

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@alexross4062 2 жыл бұрын

Just did my C6 (4F) today, with a JHM 187mm crank pulley, tune, and intake, I managed 353AWHP!

@jgizzy Жыл бұрын

If you press on your keyboard the number pad 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 -- it will bring you perfectly to the dyno results on 5 of the 6 dyno results. Very cool find

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

That's very cool!

@dirk5950 2 жыл бұрын

Congrats on getting real gas to BC! Also, that blue stage 2 car is absolutely beautiful.

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I'm hoping that I can do a test of the new Shell 93 soon to verify it is the best fuel we have around here now.

@dirk5950 2 жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi Man I hope so, seen your logs and other cars from that area on that 91 crap. They are painful to look at.

@greatwhitenorth3717 2 жыл бұрын

Yes would love to see what that 93 looks like vs 94. Also very curious as to what % E blend shell uses.

@dirk5950 2 жыл бұрын

@@greatwhitenorth3717 Not all 94 is equivalent up there either. Whatever they get in Ottawa region is the gold standard for 94. it runs like E30 but without the stoich hit you would see on E30.

@craigwilson6314 2 жыл бұрын

Curious to see how our 2010 S4 would do. We have IE Stage 2 dual pulley 93 octane tune with all bolt on items available less throttle body upgrade. I'll see if I can get a time slot next week at our local mustang dyno. We also have the same Shell gas here in Hallowell, Maine. Hopefully we won't experience the same issues! Great videos!

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

Sadly this comparison won't provide an accurate test between your car and these. Your Shell 93 is not the same as our Shell 93. Your Mustang dyno is not the same as our Mustang dyno. No matter how close you try and make the variables they'll never be the same when trying to test 2 different cars, on 2 different dyno's (which may have been calibrated differently), in different parts of the world, using different fuels and in different environmental conditions.

@TremainSr 9 ай бұрын

Damnit I was looking forward to that A7 dyno

@VancityAudi 9 ай бұрын

We all were!

@TremainSr 9 ай бұрын

@@VancityAudi Guess I’ll have to do my own dyno to see what my numbers

@tubemeister676 3 ай бұрын

Adam, I've got 2012 A6 stage 2 intergrated engineering, test pipes 80mm throttle body heat exchanger and magnaflow mufflers. Have you tried NOS,or got any input on the that? Was thinking 75hp-100hp shot. Trying for 10sec 1/4 mile machine. THANKS ADAM.

@VancityAudi 3 ай бұрын

No, sorry. I've never heard of anyone running NOS on this platform.

@maxgagnon1947 2 жыл бұрын

Cant wait to dyno my s4 when I upgrade my clutch to stage 2 with the eurocode lw flywheel and those jhm race pipe

@Yerppper 2 жыл бұрын

skip euro code . southbend stage 3 endurance . If that’s not in the budget. The ringer stage 4 with the CM steel fw would be the go to for us manuals. Me personally I run the ringer with no issues

@maxgagnon1947 2 жыл бұрын

@@Yerppper I got my stage2 street southbend when I was stage 1. It an error I know but I dayli the car during summer and she sleep the whole winter.

@roderickroderick7216 2 жыл бұрын

6MT FTW

@darkside2303xxx 2 жыл бұрын

This is an awesome comparison. Next step is to get them all 1/4 mile times to see how those peak numbers translate! I bet the numbers are surprising.

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

As I mentioned in this video none of these guys race their cars. They all use them as daily drivers and have never done any racing in them. This was also the first time any of them had put their car on a dyno so we won't be seeing 1/4 mile times out of any of them any time soon.

@darkside2303xxx 2 жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi isn't yours a daily? Mine is 😜

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

@@darkside2303xxx yes, but I was reitering what I said in the video, that none of these guys ever race their cars.

@darkside2303xxx 2 жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi I hear ya and I get it. I would just love to see all the times as my closest track is 300 miles away and I'll probably never get there.

@zackgatopolus9851 Жыл бұрын

going dual pulley soon with my a6 going with IE intake 80mm tb can auto performance heat exchanger and 191mm crank with test pipes then going to try to run an e40 tune what kind of numbers would you expect?

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

Every single dyno reads differently so I couldn't say. If you wanted what IE claims here it is though: performancebyie.com/collections/ecu-software-tunes/products/ie-ecu-tune-audi-30t-supercharged

@j.w.presents9552 2 жыл бұрын

A manual car is king when it comes to drivetrain loss, and they're lighter aswell! I almost pulled the trigger on one but couldn't get myself to accept a 5k clutch job everytime lol. Anyways good work as always man, looking forward to the B8 S4 fueling issues video!

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

That's coming up soon!

@122ffsdd 2 жыл бұрын

They may make more power on a Dyno but real world manuals are still slower

@j.w.presents9552 2 жыл бұрын

@@122ffsdd Depends on what racing you're doing... Dig racing yes, but in roll racing manuals can most definitely be superior.

@tehgzizlauw1787 Жыл бұрын

@@j.w.presents9552 it's all driver dependent, so in the real world more often than not a manual is slower because the drivers can't shift as fast as a DSG

@j.w.presents9552 Жыл бұрын

@@tehgzizlauw1787 Absolutely. That's why I said, " can ". Lol. But remember they dont even have to shift as fast. The Manuals have much longer gearing..add in less weight and less powertrain loss like i said earlier. Then the average person with some good seat time can and most definitely will pull away from a DSG car on the top end. I loved my DSGs consistency but man I would've loved to bang some gears in that thing.

@bassmasta9117 2 жыл бұрын

I have 2014 S4 with the Stage 1 APR 93 octane and an intake basically the same as the dude at 4:44 and I love it!!. I'm happy to see it dyno at 400 horsepower! P.S. You remind me of Vsauce

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

No idea who VSauce is, so I don't know if I should take that as a compliment or a dis, lol.

@bassmasta9117 2 жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi Popular KZfaqr that does science videos😅

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

@@bassmasta9117 hahaha, that's awesome! Just looked him up. I don't necessarily see the resemblance but with a subscriber count that high I'll take that as a compliment! Lol. Thanks!

@diegorodri19 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome content

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@ActuallyVen 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Adam! Just as surprised as everyone else about the Manual APR S4 putting down the highest number. Would be interesting to see the drive train loss between the DSG and 6MT. Do you think it's the tune making the most power difference? 🤔

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

No I don't. I believe it is the drivetrain loss that comes into play.

@TheDarkhorse82 2 жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi there isnt supposed to be drivetrain loss from a dsg though is there? the only thing would be the wet clutch no?

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheDarkhorse82 every vehicle in the world suffers drivetrain loss. Depending on the transmission, the driveshaft, axles and every other part inbetween it varies between vehicles

@TheDarkhorse82 2 жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi im meaning between a manual and dsg comparison

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheDarkhorse82 I'm aiming to answer that question in a future video

@skyhookpro 2 жыл бұрын

Adam you are a great person keep up men...

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

thank you

@derekspringer1596 Жыл бұрын

Can I use the same IE stage one tunes on two cars? I have a 2016 SQ5 and a 2012 conv S5. Same engines. Or so I have to pay twice?

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

You have to pay for the tune per VIN.

@crunch3rYouTube 2 жыл бұрын

Wow that A7 owner spouted off about 7500G worth of mods and he could not even get past 400, I have the same 93 APR tune with full exhaust and I'm super happy with that. No need to go stage 2 or xpipe downpipe or any of that crap. Exhaust was more for sound than performance but still I am grateful to your video because now I feel doing any more engine mods on my B8.5 S4 would be waste of money. As long as I can whip V8 Coyotes and maybe a stock 911 I'm happy.

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

That's a shame that's what you took from this video. Doing the additional mods is absolutely worth it as proven in this video on my Dual Pulley Throttle Body E40 B8 S4: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j52VptFm3tDedJs.html It solely depends on what the owners have done to ensure they are getting what they should out of their cars. Both of the Stage 2 owners had never even logged their cars to see that they were working correctly prior to filming. It proves how important it is to log your B8's to make sure you are getting 110% out of them like I did.

@crunch3rYouTube 2 жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi Well I agree about your comment about getting what you want out of the car. I found your video to be super informative! Don't be shaming me! Ill check out your other vid you linked... I'm just very practical I have a small budget for mods for the S4 so I have to be very selective in the choices considering HP, reliability, comfort & tech.

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

@@crunch3rKZfaq completely understandable!!! Budget conscious build you say?!? Here we go: Integrated Engineering Stage 2 Single Pulley E30 & 7200rpm TCU tune, IE air intake system, IE supercharger pulley, MercRacing Heat Exchanger. Done and done!

@wes8398 2 жыл бұрын

Did that A7 happen to have a bolt-on / clutched blower (CREC engine code)? If so, they're known to have blower pulley clutch slip issues.

@TheWarawaj 2 жыл бұрын

No code faults before or after. Its a 2012, so not a CREC

@jonrodriguez9304 Жыл бұрын

Question: For the S4 only running APR stage 1 without tune or other mods - won’t that strain the OEM components? Or is that safe?

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

You have to keep in mind that the only reason that tune made so much more power is because of it having less drivetrain loss because it was a manual transmission, and the fact that it was able to rev higher than all the other cars. Supercharged motors make more power the higher they can rev. This tune along with all the other ones showcased are safe for the motors.

@o0TaxMan0o 2 ай бұрын

Im single pulley, cold ram, gearbox tune and ecu remapped dynod @430bhp. Pretty sure the tuner never had it in dynamic either.

@VancityAudi 2 ай бұрын

Dynamic mode isn't going to change the results on the dyno. Also, every dyno reads differently based on the dyno brand, how it was calibrated, the ambient conditions, the fuel quality and so on.

@72defender 2 жыл бұрын

Shell 93...I’d be interested to see how it stacks up vs. Petro-Canada 94.

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

As soon as someone else pays for the dyno time and all the fuel necessary to do this testing I can do another fuel comparison.

@nivamonicolas 2 жыл бұрын

You should really test an S4 with a (Chipwerk pro 93 setting piggy tune) I’ve seen some cars with that tune gap stage 1 apr cars on the 93 setting.

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

Won't be happening, sorry.

@tonyboss4291 2 жыл бұрын

I'd love to do something like this in Toronto. I'd love to throw my b8.5 in there and see what it's doing. 😁

@tonyboss4291 2 жыл бұрын

I'd put b8 against others😎

@Todd.T 2 жыл бұрын

No mention on whether the A7 was CREC or not. I'm guessing by the tail lights, not.

@TheWarawaj 2 жыл бұрын

That is correct, not a CREC. It is a 2012.

@ulrikphilipsen6343 2 жыл бұрын

What is the rear diffuser on the Stage2-EPL car?

@sofakingeuro 2 жыл бұрын

ECS gloss black diffuser

@cnjconsulting 2 жыл бұрын

Shout out for Sask tags haha

@phobiazzzero4935 2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂lol at that guy’s license plate LOLM3 buahahahaha nailed it

@alexandrecorrea 2 жыл бұрын

My A6 c7.5 with apr stage2+ (dual pulley, supercharger whatercooler, intake and exhaust) and TCU upgrade … 550whp

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

On a different dyno, in a different density altitude, in a different ambient temperature, with different fuel. Comparing dyno results from one dyno to another are silly.

@stevepryce6738 2 жыл бұрын

very nice video!

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@xdzeron_1859 11 ай бұрын

Dose anyone knows the potential of the 3.0t cuz I didn't found anyone talk about them 🙂

@michellguzelgul4267 2 жыл бұрын

Am I missing something? The white s4 with stage 1 IE only got 356 HP? The car stock is roughly 333 and the IE site states it will push it to around 403. I am relatively new to all of this and am planning on going with IE stage 1, is this common or can I expect 400+? Got a S4 B8. Thanks.

@michellguzelgul4267 2 жыл бұрын

Actually what year was it?

@alexburr36 2 жыл бұрын

The results in the video are showing wheel horsepower readings , not crank horsepower readings. Hence why you’re misinterpreting the numbers compared to their tunes and advertised gains .

@michellguzelgul4267 2 жыл бұрын

@@alexburr36 Got it. I appreciate it.

@devinisonline120 2 жыл бұрын

Do you think the added power from a manual would be better for 1/4 mile times than the shift speed of the DSG

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

The 6 speed manual would go much slower than all of the tuned DSG cars due to the shift speed being so much slower

@devinisonline120 2 жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi Thanks for the reply, kinda figured that :/. But the numbers were so impressive I had some hopes haha

@spaztooreal9736 2 жыл бұрын

Those last 2 stg 2 cars have that much Who due to not having a TCU tune & maybe IAT’s i believe also could be belt slip but its crazy how that 6 Spd Got 400 whp just from stg 1

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

Their results have absolutely nothing to do with not having a TCU tune. Their IAT'S weren't the problem either.

@TheWarawaj 2 жыл бұрын

Not to mention that the A7, my car, has a TCU tune and a Heat exchanger.

@alwayswindigs 2 жыл бұрын

I’m really curious on the first one. I thought the S4 comes stock with 340? How come he was sub 300

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

They come with 333hp at the crank. All of these power ratings are at the wheels. You have to account for the drivetrain loss.

@blucobalt8688 3 ай бұрын

That a7 sounded incredible its too bad that it didnt work out

@VancityAudi 3 ай бұрын

It's too bad that multiple cars didn't work!

@JP-do1xc 2 жыл бұрын

If you could make a video of that A7 where the run is better that would be nice. I drive a a7 and would love to see what the A7 platform can do

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

Sadly that won't be happening. Perhaps you could reach out to the owner directly and find out if he plans on going back

@TheWarawaj 2 жыл бұрын

I would love to make another video once my issues have been resolved. I don't have an active channel, but I could find a way to get it out there.

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheWarawaj if and when you go back just film a run, take a photo of the results and post it in the B8/8.5 Network FB group. Lots of people that watch these videos are in that group.

@JP-do1xc 2 жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi would love to see that

@TheWarawaj 2 жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi Will do Adam, thanks again for all of your guidance. Much appreciated.

@cameron9292 Жыл бұрын

Crazy how these S4's are slept on in the car community, at least around here. Everyone's still cruising around in their JDM's like it's 2002 and they're in the Fast and the Furious lol

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

When modded correctly and looked after, they sure do boogie.

@mohammadkamran5862 8 ай бұрын

Totally agree. They are beautiful and wonderful cars. I’m glad they’re slept on tbh. So I can snatch one up for a decent price hopefully in the used market. And they won’t be overhyped and overpriced like the JDMs. 😁

@DarkSession6208 5 ай бұрын

@@VancityAudiBought a S4 Avant V6 Supercharged yesterday , holy shit its a dual pulley with just a tune (everthing except stock, means exhaust, cats, airbox etc). 100-200 km/h in 10.4s , this is by far the fastest and most violent car i ever owned and i had amgs,rs and so on. It sounds and feels like a porsche engine.

@Imnuktam 5 ай бұрын

As someone who sees a lot of tunes, what would you say is the best to use on an Audi s4 2015 if I go water/meth? I currently use APR stage 2+ with the APR Heat exchanger, Ultracharger kit, Open Airbox CAI, Awe Exhaust and 034's Dual pulleys. Havent done Water / Meth yet but seems APR doesnt support it and if i want to go with it I will have to change to a different tuner. IE and 034 are the two I have considered but not sure if all that price of changing and getting water/meth would be worth it, though from what I have read it will allow me to use my 91 octane which is all we have here and go with a higher octane tune.

@VancityAudi 5 ай бұрын

You'd want to go with a custom tune to utilize water/meth to its fullest. All of the OTS tuners that you mentioned won't get you every last drop of performance via the additional octane and cooling it will provide.

@Imnuktam 5 ай бұрын

Is water/meth worth it in your opinion for the money with the mods I have so far when all I have access to is 91 octane? Any suggestions on a good custom tuner? Only things I feel I really have left to get me to the 500whp I have been shooting for is that and porting the blower.

@VancityAudi 5 ай бұрын

@Imnuktam water/meth would be an amazing octane booster for you, seeing as you only have access to 91 octane fuel. With a proper nozzle and WM setup, you'd be able to theoretically run a 100 - 104 octane map and make WAY more power than straight 91 octane fuel would get you. You would need a specific tune to utilize the fact you'd be spraying anytime above a certain throttle application. United Motorsport offers custom tuning. You'd need to find a local dealer near you though to create a custom tune for your setup.

@VancityAudi 5 ай бұрын

@Imnuktam as I mentioned United Motorsports offers custom tuning. IE doesn't offer custom tuning. Snow Performance and Aquamist both make good kits.

@Imnuktam 5 ай бұрын

Saw that you mentioned United Motorsports and finding a local dealer but only found locations for them in OH and KY which is why I asked about remote tuners. Appreciate all the feedback, water / meth is not something I have ever done to a car before so is all new info for me. Car runs great right now and I am guessing is somewhere around 500hp to the crank. W/M is about the only mod left on my list (maybe ported blower if I could get a good enough price) to get me to around 500whp / 600 crank, which is where I wanted to get the car to when I started modding it. Always want more, but I am not sure on the S4 internals limit and want to make sure I dont push them to far.

@macrolosses 2 жыл бұрын

I have a heavily modified A7 as well. Recently on some hard runs on the highway the tires will hop a little and the car just kills all power for a few seconds. Almost like a hesitation in the ignition. I'm pretty sure its over Torque warning but it could be the belt slipping.

@eeiko321 2 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure about the A6-7 or even the A4 S4 of North America But I do know the A4s where I live (either 4cyl T or V6 supercharged) equipped with the 7-spd DSG s-tronic has two stages of torque restrictions that need to be altered

@tmack79 2 жыл бұрын

274 horsepower but plate says m3 lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@pianomail 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, really surprised to see such low numbers from the Stage 2 vehicles. I'm on a Stage 2 APR DP tune with 034 TCU tune and I'm seeing about 395-400whp from virtual dyno, but my graphs look really smooth and boost is holding strong in the high rpm. That 405whp from a Stage 1 car seems to be a fluke, that engine must be blessed by the car gods because that's way more than what would be expected from most Stage 1 cars. Manual definitely does help putting a few more ponies to the road though.

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

Sadly, both of the Stage 2 cars were suffering from mechanical issues that neither of the owners were aware of. The APR manual car read as high as it did because a manual car suffers less drivetrain loss than the cars that use a DSG.

@bsg2923 Жыл бұрын

405 isn't crazy for stage 1.... Especially not with a manual. I am sure they didn't just do one single pull, don't be mad just because it makes more hp than yours.

@pklifter 2 жыл бұрын

EPL racing's both contact email addresses both go undelivered. Anyone know what is up with that?

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

All I know is it is a small, relatively unknown company. I don't think they even have a website. Perhaps reach out to them on Facebook.

@pklifter 2 жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi Yeah I used two emails from their website. Their certificate has expired and emails are bouncing back. Sounds EPL might have gone under.

@gt-r_guy 2 жыл бұрын

Really makes you wonder how many of our cars have belt slip issues and such.

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

If I had to guess... a whole sh$t ton of them

@gt-r_guy 2 жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi did any of the problem cars dynoed on here mention that seemed a little off or did they all feel like it was 100%

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

@@gt-r_guy they literally had no idea their cars weren't working correctly because they had never logged them before, so they knew nothing different

@swift__ 2 жыл бұрын

Damn that a7 was sick🤘🏻🤘🏻apr always seems to pump higher numbers.

@TheWarawaj 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man, I hope to get to the published numbers one day.

@JV-py3lg 2 жыл бұрын

So stage 1 tune should expect around 350wheel?

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

No, it heavily depends on your tune, your complete setup, how well you have taken care of your car, the dyno you test it on, the ambient temps, your intake air temps, the quality of fuel you are using and on and on and on.

@dirk5950 2 жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi and the price of tea in China. You forgot that one.

@JV-py3lg 2 жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi I’m guessing you’d recommend IE since you have them on your B8.

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

@@JV-py3lg abso-freakin'-lutely. IE's software and hardware has been amazing

@leapers124 2 жыл бұрын

What gear you pulling in

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

4th gear

@BoostInMotion 2 жыл бұрын

good video...

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@GermanCRMZ Жыл бұрын

The manual car did 404 hp on stage 1?? Wth I bought an S4 manual with stage 2 plus and test pipes at the auction. I haven't fixed the crashed doors, but I expect it to pull more than 500 hp I guess.

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

Every dyno will read differently. Plus you have to keep in mind that being a manual car, it went higher in the RPM than all the others. Superchargers need RPM to make power, so by reving it out higher than all the other cars it made more power. As for the 500hp simply go on a Dynojet or Dynocom dyno and you'll make way more power than these cars did.

@Redk00laid 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if any carbon buildup affected these numbers it would have been cool to ask them if they have done that service yet on their vehicle. I have a stag 2 B8.5 Manual and I feel like it’s not quick I’m at 85k miles

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

I personally don't think carbon build up affects horsepower ratings on a dyno as much as some people do. I think I'll have to do a video in the future to see if I'm right or not.

@Nubsauce Жыл бұрын

Seems like APR is still the best tune to get. Good to know.

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

No, it isn't. As I explained in the pinned comment, that car suffered less drivetrain loss than all the other automatic cars. Not only that, it managed to rev higher than all the other cars because it was a manual. The higher you can rev a supercharged motor, the more power it will make. Looking back on it, I should have never included that car in the testing.

@Nubsauce Жыл бұрын

@Vancity Audi I know how the transmissions work. That's why it's an even larger benefit to get the transmission tune with the 7spd ones after the ECU Tune. Brings that rpm limit to 7300 and change. But even still. The cars with the crank / pulley upgrades should have been pushing upwards close to 4 with a tune. A full stage 2 dual pulley with an APR tune, after the other bolt ons, of course, are pushing over 500bhp. And if people are putting 93 in a 91 octane profile, it could cause performance issues as the car is now pushing more hp and tq than what the ECU tune is expecting.

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

@Nubsauce depends on the TCU tune. Most are raised to 7200rpm. Some are even higher up to 7350rpm. That is if they are even using one. As for the Stage 2 tuned vehicles, I'm not sure you watched the whole video or just skipped to the end results? I go over the fact that neither of those cars were working properly, and that is the owner's fault for not datalogging and testing before they brought it to the dyno to make sure they were running at 100%. As for putting 93 octane in a 91 octane tuned vehicle and suffering performance loss... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 That's not how it works. Using a higher octane fuel then required will only benefit the vehicle, not take away from it.

@Nubsauce Жыл бұрын

@Vancity Audi I watched the whole thing. And I agree that it is the owners' faults. As for the octane, sure, it will benefit, but some tunes specifically say not to use any other octane other than the one that the profile is built for or it could cause anomalies. At least, that is what I see from the main brand tunes. Could be different from company to company. IE: Cobb tunes are less pissy with octane differences. I was really excited to see that A7 dominate, but man... that one really didn't like what was going on.

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

@Nubsauce I've yet to see a tuner say to not use any octane higher than what it calls for. Do you have any examples of this I could check out? And ya, it was a major let down to not see either of the Stage 2 cars perform.

@BoostedYote Жыл бұрын

This is the video that made me want an RS3 instead of an S4/5.

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

Nice! Glad I could encourage you to go with a better vehicle!

@willneverstop Жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi nah RS3’s are front bias…I much prefer the handling of traditional, longitude, rear bias Quattro cars. RS3’s are way faster and sound better but I find handling way more important plus S4’s come in a stick too which makes it more fun. 😊

@bath1968 2 жыл бұрын

Great video 😷👍 and 1st comment

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@eeiko321 2 жыл бұрын

Lol imagine that day. A man going in with chests pumped and the. leaving speechless and heartbroken lol

@1Pueblito Жыл бұрын

Looks like APR is the way to go.

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

You'd be wrong. The only reason the numbers were higher were because of less drivetrain loss because of it being a manual and being able to rev the engine higher.

@xie.arw124 2 жыл бұрын

wow

@FASTU-mz3tm Жыл бұрын

THE MORE I SEE THIS VIDEOS, the more i love my C7 VETT 680hps.................................

@VancityAudi Жыл бұрын

And probably running high 11's in the 1/4 mile 🤣 Thanks for watching!

@jamesturner2329 2 жыл бұрын

I wish Noel with the manual s4 had a channel or was a content creator manuals will always be faster the 7sp is just quicker.

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

He's a good dude for sure. Not sure how you've come to that conclusion though. I've never seen a manual B8/8.5 trap 132mph in the 1/4 mile which is what has been done repeatedly in a 7 speed DSG.

@jamesturner2329 2 жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi yea it’s cause the shifts in the transmission try roll racing with a good manual driver with similar mods with such a small stretch quicker wins everytime but up top or rolling manuals are lighter an like you said suffer less drivetrain inertia. But dsg is just a really fast shifting trans compared to most who own these cars mainly people who can’t even begin to think on how to launch let alone drive a 6sp

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesturner2329 I see. I've just personally never witnessed that. In my opinion as soon as the "real good manual driver" pushes that clutch in to shift, the DSG car starts pulling. Then the next shift he pulls even more. It's just physics in my opinion, but I know we all have one of those, haha.

@jamesturner2329 2 жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi Yea I’ve yet to see it on video except maybe 1 here on KZfaq but I live here in Colorado Springs an have witnessed it in person dsg losing to a manual 60 roll to 130 then dig racing an the dsg shows the 6sp its tails lights by about car an a half but I mean there are nothing but dsg s4’s out there an everytime a manual shows up it gets dogged everytime in a dig. I don’t have a camera btw or I would set up another roll race an film it.

@jamesturner2329 2 жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi These manuals aren’t built very well either have yet to see a fully built manual transmission an everything but those dsg’s are everywhere with the tcu tune!

@sherwinzn1 2 жыл бұрын

so the tune only car made.the most power

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

AKA the manual transmission appeared to make the most power because he suffered the least amount of drivetrain loss

@peterklassen626 2 жыл бұрын

Noice

@Mattmazz77 2 жыл бұрын

Sooooo you drained everyone of the cars gas tanks and put shell 93 ? It's a little weird that the 6 speed made that much on only a stage 1 tune even though yes a manual has less drivetrain loss. It's funny how he said that it's completely stock except. 🤔

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

They each had been running Shell 93 for 2 to 3 weeks prior to this video to ensure their tanks had nothing but that fuel in them. It is very weird that the Manual car made so much power. I'm hoping to get an answer on why that was in upcoming videos.

@Mattmazz77 2 жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi I have a 2013 A4 with the 6 speed manual with just a stage 1 Intergrated Engineering stage 1 tune. It's actually not running perfectly I'm thinking my injectors are clogged and possibly n75 valve, waste gate issue or something because it definitely will over boost. Find it hitting 25 psi plus if I don't regulate the throttle...lol. But even with the clogged injectors an over boosting it feels pretty quick. It's not fast by no means but quick if you know what I mean. Love Audi, and I hate Audi....lmfao. A beautiful manufacturer with very finicky machinery..lol.

@tvfish 2 жыл бұрын

From my own experience. Auto trans have more whp loss then manual trans.

@TheDarkhorse82 2 жыл бұрын

DSG doesnt lose that much power over a manual tbh, like probably couldnt even measure it, the only loss is from the wet clutch.. also dsg cars are faster than a manual anyway... the ZF8 in the A7 is a normal automatic.

@Chrissssooooo 9 ай бұрын

But why this "stock tune" is less than the the stock car!? 😂 274hp?? Usually the S4/S5 are 333 hp

@VancityAudi 9 ай бұрын

This dyno reads the horsepower at the wheels, not at the crank.

@rocavelli20 2 жыл бұрын

To put down 400 on a stage 1 is quite impressive, but that aggressive timing may be questionable on straight pump gas

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

To this day it makes no sense to us whatsoever on how this was accomplished

@rocavelli20 2 жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi 😂

@daveblais4019 2 жыл бұрын

Most likely was not on pump gas IMO. That kind of timing on pump gas - good luck.

@rocavelli20 2 жыл бұрын

@@daveblais4019 based on the fact that it was a manual car and fact that the torque is still pretty low, I think it truly is just a 93 file with some wild timing.

@APRtube 2 жыл бұрын

We don't have aggressive, or rather risky/dangerous timing on Stage 1 pump gas tunes. This is evident by the over 10 years of tuning 10's of thousands of these without issue. It's more likely the correct variable wasn't logged, or the resolution at which it was logged captured the moments after lifting. We're not doing anything magical here to achieve more ignition than race gas on pump gas and keep these engines alive.

@oxy6233 2 жыл бұрын

How is a stage 1 producing 40HP more than a stage 2 car? That's insane.

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

As I mention multiple times in the video neither of the Stage 2 cars were running properly. The owners never logged them prior to dyno testing them and didn't realize they weren't running correctly.

@oxy6233 2 жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi yeh I heard that, I was more impressed of the 400whp on the stage 1, that's what is meant by my comment. Apologies.

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

@@oxy6233 no need to apologize. Manual transmission B8's have less drivetrain loss then the DSG's do so it fell in line with what a properly operating Stage 1 car should make on 93 octane.

@barrymcockner5850 2 жыл бұрын

That manual car was impressive for stage 1. Lesson learned the cars with upper pullies usually slip and underperform anyway. Not worth it.

@ramblor 2 жыл бұрын

You mean lower pulley? The single pulley car had an upgraded crank pulley.

@j.w.presents9552 2 жыл бұрын

Manuals have less drivetrain loss my friend! Also, what makes you say that? I've a big 207mm crank pulley with no belt slip at all from day one. lol

@wes8398 2 жыл бұрын

@@j.w.presents9552 A larger LOWER pulley gives you MORE surface area for the belt to ride. = less chance of slippage. Barry is saying the SMALLER upper pulley - which results in LESS surface area for the belt to ride - seems to be problematic in that belt slip is an issue.

@noob-ennings5316 2 жыл бұрын

Did I catch a RWD??

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

@DoolieBlunt Жыл бұрын

Apr is king

@mastalee1776 2 жыл бұрын

Too bad there isn't enough of the better looking brother the s5

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

I invited them. No one came out.

@alexmanoshin1943 2 жыл бұрын

can't believe a7 with so many parts lost to s4 apr stage 1 ecu/tcu holy shit

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

The A7 was suffering from belt slip and not running properly. The APR Stage 1 car was a manual so it suffered much less drivetrain loss artificially making it display higher numbers than all the other DSG cars.

@alexmanoshin1943 2 жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi damn wonder how mich tq and hp he would had if all was good.

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

@@alexmanoshin1943 I wonder the exact same thing!!!

@alexmanoshin1943 2 жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi i am actually going stage 2+ 034 with 207 crank pulley, ecu and tcu tune then going with ported blower. Only then i will do dyno.

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

@@alexmanoshin1943 what you should do is dyno the car now and then after the mods to see what the actual gains were

@joeszucs2190 2 жыл бұрын

Are you guys way up in the mountains? Stock 2014 s4 should be over 300 HP stock. Only the a7 whined at all. And not even a screaming whine like the 600 HP s4 next door.

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

Every dyno reads differently. These are all done on a Mustang uncorrected dyno. It is reading horsepower at the wheels, not at the crank. We are at sea level and with a low DA.

@joeszucs2190 2 жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi any of the duel pully setups should easily be nipping 500hp at sea level not crazy humidity not crazy temps.

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

@@joeszucs2190 again. This is at the wheels on an UNCORRECTED Mustang dyno. They read considerably lower than most other dynos like a Dynojet or Dynocom. My 10 second B8 S4 with a DP TB E40 setup managed 465whp on this dyno.

@joeszucs2190 2 жыл бұрын

@@VancityAudi around here most tuned s4 be in about the 10 sec range anything past duel pully be flat 10s or better. Mustang dyno is only 5 to 10% so has to be some other factor at play? Do you not have 93 in the area?

@VancityAudi 2 жыл бұрын

@@joeszucs2190 I can tell you have zero idea what you're talking about referencing the times B8/8.5 S4's are running considering the world record holder in the 1/4 mile is 10.2, lol. All the best to you. Thanks for watching.

@kswis 6 ай бұрын

Makes me not want to do much more than test pipes and heat exchanger.

@VancityAudi 6 ай бұрын

Don't let the lack of logging your car and making sure it's working optimally discourage you from making power on this platform. It's simply the owner's faults for not being on top of their car's health.

@CalebsCars 6 ай бұрын

I love these cars but damn they suck at putting power down

@VancityAudi 6 ай бұрын

Not the car's fault the owners don't maintain them and test them enough, haha. Certainly is the responsibility of the owner's to make sure their cars are working properly.