I want to take a moment to admit that I don’t know everything and I’m sure there are many people out there who can accomplish a one day patch and paint. To those who can I tip my hat to you. Personally, I have just never had good luck with them so I won’t do them. Just means there’s more business for those of you who can🙂

Can you do a video explaining why it takes a couple weeks so I can show my wife

I just wanted to say thank you. I've attempted numerous patch jobs after buying my first house and they have all turned out awful. But we recently had a chandelier moved and after watching your videos, I worked up the confidence to try to patch the hole myself. I bought proper mud this time and took my time, learned to accept the fact that I was going to have to patch and paint more than just the little 4" square and that I was going to have to sand and make a mess, and it has turned out great so far. Maybe I'll take another shot at some of these crack repairs now...

As a handyman I did them all the time. 5 minute mud, 3 coats. Alternate with heat gun and fan. Never had a problem with painting over hot mud. I think adding the all purpose is what causes the issue. Interesting video.

Your instruction on sanding and using a coarse grit is very helpful. I always believed that final sanding should be with a fine grit..and my patches always looked polished. Thank you.

Ben, I really enjoy your videos. I find them relaxing. I also do drywall for a living and every now and then I do same day patches. I don't recommend it either but sometimes my builders want it done as soon as possible. steps I would do is pre fill 5 min quick set tape and float 5 min quick set skim coat with all purpose heater sand and paint.

This is a fantastic video! I’m just a DIY’er so have never had the need for 1 day patches or fixes. I always do these types of projects over days not hours to ensure proper drying, but this is still great info and I am glad to know that I should avoid one day patch & paints. Appreciate the video and I’m glad you vindicated at the end. 😂👍🏼

As a professional drywall finisher you did everything in this video to do a 1 days patch and paint quite good except for once thing. You are able to do 1 day patch and paint, but you forgot to pre-fill the gaps. You have to pre-fill the gaps and let it dry before applying the mesh tape, then you wouldn’t have that problem of gaps appearing after..

Thank you for showing what not to do. I am a first time home owner and have been so hesitant to ever try anything involving walls. I've really enjoyed your channel and getting ideas on what I might be able to try myself and what I definitely need a pro for. I appreciate your work!

Really enjoy your videos….your projects are always well lit, you don’t talk so fast I have to rewind several times, and also you don’t talk TOO MUCH👍. As a new DIY’er with drywall, I am so grateful for your tutorials. Thank you! 🙏🏼

A drywall guy told me once that when doing mud...less is more and don't fuss with it too much.

I like to score a square around it and use my multi tool scraper attachment scrape all the paint off so my tape is embedded and I don’t have to float it way out.

Prefill the gaps, no tape. Let the mud harden. Then use tape. That’s technically your first pass. You’ll never have that problem again. Prefill is critical, especially for 1 days. If you don’t prefill, or push a valley through the tape on the first pass, then a few days later the gaps do show up like you’re describing. Due to the paint and final coat’s moisture content, the base layer can pull out once fully dry (few days later).

You are such a perfectionist, and I say that in the most complimentary way. Thank you for the fantastic info in each of your videos!

Mr. Vancouver Carpenter, I have been learning so much from you, waiting for this video and clear statements from you. Many clients keep asking me for the one day repair. Tried and failed often enough. Whenever someone asks me again, I will send him a link to this video .. and asking them to BE PATIENT!

I should have my wife watch this then maybe she will understand why I don’t rush a project. Lol Thanks for the video

Thank you for your videos, I have patched in the past and my wife thinks I can’t make a smooth repair. Watching you and the tips I think I am better but not perfect. I need more tools but don’t repair very often so I work with what I have.

VC: feather those edges me: feathers the like button

I have been doing this for many years. I am not going to say anything you have done is wrong.... However in Canada we never use mesh tape over drywall. It is only used for Dimond finish plaster. All in all that is not the point. I do use one day finish. Patching or one small room in an emergency. It is a hot mud however it is a plaster of Paris. It goes hard if 4 min. Even if I drop it in water it is hard at same time. It is a chemical reaction. No fan or heat required. It does not shrink like durabond or sheetrock. It is not sand able. So do a good job and keep edges paper thin. With each coat spread wider and thin the mixture with more water. This way you can achieve a zero edge and it dries faster. I do a finish coat with out the plaster. Just straight up drywall mud (drywall compound) don't use a fan let it dry a couple hours maybe 1 or 2 hours. The compound will dry quickly and have a very smooth finish if done properly. ... I know I have no video to provide. I am thinking of doing a video just to show. However I understand this is for the do it your self. So I applaud your video. It is good advice for people whom are not professional.

Your idea of a one day patch and paint is better than my 3 day patch and 4th day paint lmao I have learned so much from you. Your the reason I taped my house and with bullnose too. Thanks skater!!

I remember doing a one day hang tape texture and paint and it looked great. Years later I went back and every joint was seen but the homeowner didn’t even notice. From flawless to rookie.

Thanks for sharing your experience. Saved me a future headache for sure!

I'm not the best drywaller, I'm a general contractor, but I usually do most of the work myself. However, my drywall guy is amazing. He can have an entire bathroom done in 3 hours. He uses a wet sanding method. No imperfections, no tape showing, no issues. Have you ever tried wet sanding? It's also a lot cleaner of a process.

There's always time to do it right the second time

The trick is to be a painter and not a drywaller. As a painter I know a million tricks to make the wall look nice again after the patch. My normal routine would be: using all purpose mud (green lid) mixed with some easy 5 or plaster of paris do one solid coat to backfill it, sand it, shellac it, THEN put your top coat with the same mix, sand and shellac, and skim it with all purpose, sand and shellac one more time and check for touch ups, shellac any touchups and paint 2-3 coats. That should take you just a few hours if you do it right and put the fan or heat gun on it. Also, us painters aren't doing huge patches like that either, we typically keep it nice and tight, just big enough to blend but not so big it takes a year to dry. At the end of the day, I really more on my painting skills to blend the patch back into the wall if it's not just right yet. The reason I shellac it after the coats is that the shellac will seal it and stop any moisture from traveling any further in either direction, but it will also let you visually see any ridges or high spot that cast shadows a lot better than without it, which makes the touch ups easier and faster.

What a great video to watch while I am waiting for the paint to dry on a wall that I sprayed texture on yesterday.

Hey, I own a drywall repair company. Although my techs are very quick and very knowledgeable (this repair would have taken them about 3 hours without painting. Maybe slightly less time), I will definitely say that what we do is NOT easy-peasy-lemon-squeezy. And yes, we leave all repairs seamless.. but it's definitely an art and I've had techs who have been doing drywall forn30 years plus and believe they know how to do it, however they have to have a huuuge adjustment in how they do it. It's doable though and some can't. That's why this is one of the best niches in the system 😉

Hey my guy really enjoying your vids since stumbling on them recently, you've come handy for me trying to eliminate my own mistakes on wall repairs. Really is about being patient and taking the time. Great vids and advice bud

See, that's the great thing about 1 day patch and paints. They look great just long enough for your taillights to be out of sight, the check to clear, and to change your phone number. 😉 And you can always tell the customer that you have been doing it this way for years.

Done hundreds of repairs and paint in three hours or less.Never had a callback.Five minute mud is the only way to go. Thats a fact Jack!

I do one day patch and paint all the time. Your process is a little flawed thou. On the tape coat I use 5 minute mud and just a 6” knife the only thing I’m trying to do is fill the crack and leave the slightest pit of mud on the mesh. Then I hit it with the heat gun for a good 7-10 minutes this issuers the deepest mud is set in the crack. Biggest mistake I see is when people coat the whole repair on the first coat.

Great job. You have to charge alot to keep coming back for every process to complete itself. But i can see homeowner not understanding, because they watch too many HGTV programs.

Thank you, very informative. I appreciate you adding how to fix the failure, too!

You are amazing. Love watching your videos. Very informative and down to earth. Please keep them coming :)

I’m a painter in Chicago we do one day patches all the time.In an ideal world probably best to do it over two days.We use quick set then a topping compound, and a heat gun. I’ve used quick set and painted over it haven’t had issues,but a topping compound over it seems to be best.Thanks.

It'll take as long as it takes. And it'll take a while to feather those edges right..... Great vid as always.

Tried and failed at this :-) I'm going to repaint the whole room this summer, so I will fix things up perfectly - according to all the knowledge I've gotten from you!

New Sub Love your content. I primarily do restoration and warranty repairs in high end new builds. With deadlines/scheduling and unrealistic builder expectations you have to be able to produce quality fast and don’t always have the time to return the following day. You got the right idea dropping fans and technique is perfect scraping the hot mud down flat. Ditch the 20mm use 5mm. The 20 just doesn’t activate fast enough. pre fill - ultra thin mesh tape applied with spray adhesive- then coat. Give it atleast half hour under the fan between coats. Final tight skim with AP mud so thin that it dries under a fan by the end of the day without bubbling. Sand we’re necessary prime and paint. Has to be perfect or we can’t sell it If it fails we know immediately once boss gets the callback 😂

I do one day patch and paint every day as a Handyman. The secret is - Prefill any gaps with 5 minute mud use Fibre fuse tape and 2 coats of 20 minute mud. 1 coat of topping mud. Dry all coats with heat gun. Sand to smooth finish. 1 coat undercoat / sealer paint top coat wall paint Done.

I have learned to have patience when doing any job. Now I know NOT to rush any drywall problem. Will definitely help me as I move forward with future renovations. Great job as always Ben.

1 customer rushed me & complained that I was taking too long to fix an external concrete wall full of moisture & peeling paint, tried explaining to them that each layer I put has to cure before moving on to the next step, she was having none of it, so rushed the job, demanded pay & walked away, 6months down the road her wall needs fixing again. Great vid, demonstration of a rushed job, take ur time do it right.

Nice Amazing and entertaining video also vary helpful. Keep up the amazing work Ben.

I'm a DIY and I've given up on the quick fixes. I'm with you on it. They just never come out great for me. Between renovations and two boys I have no shortage of things to patch. Instead of heaters and fans try running a portable home dehumidifier in the room with the exhaust blowing towards the patch. Just make sure you turn it off when you are sanding so you don't clog up the coils.

As a remodeler, I never use hot mud. I have tried it but didn’t care for it. I use regular all purpose and do maybe 2 coats in a day and 2 coats on another day. Then I put drywall primer on it to get the texture. Then I will paint it. I get pretty good results this way and I just explain to the customer that’s the way I do it for the best results. Rushing drying usually leads to failure (as shown in this video). Thanks for making this, I really had no idea that this would occur because I don’t use hot mud at all. Now I can explain it to my customers better why I don’t do everything in one day. People have no patience lol

it works if you let the first coat fully dry, use 5min mud and a heat gun and or a fan works well too

Excellent advice and demo - thanks, Ben!

This guy is a great inspiration to us all I’m sure. I’ve done a lot of his suggesting. 😊😊😊😊

Wowww. I have been doing one day patches for years as a remodeling contractor in the state of Maryland. We typically use mesh fiberglass tape with easy sand 20. Use a heat gun in between your two or 3 coats. We do not put regular mud over top of the easy sand. We would never use the egg shell primer in the paint as first coat. We always used a cheap flat paint. If you use the other paint you can see the patch right through when the paint dries no matter if you put on 5 coats of paint. The trick is using regular flat paint as your primer. Anyway that's my 2 cents and yes we never had any call backs after patching.

awesome vid. i do apartment maintenance and i always have to do drywall repair as quick as possible but it is usually a 3 day job. i do use fans but never heaters or quick set

I just taped and mudded a 38 foot long 10 foot high wall. Waiting 24 hours is GREAT advice. It came out absolutely perfect.. and letting it dry overnight made it easier.

Thanks for putting yourself through the process for us.

Feathering plaster is an art that requires good eye AND long practice. The first-timers always get eyes glazed after over-repeated passes in an attempt to make it seamless. It is hard to apply diminishing pressure from start of the stroke through to the lift at the end.

I do 1 day patches all time . And doesn't take that many hours like you. I use 20 minutes mud thin layers and master appliances heat gun to make sure it's dry before applying another coat. And for sure if the wall isn't a flat finish. U need to paint corner to corner otherwise it will flash.

I will watch this full video, I love your content and *kanye west voice* "I'ma let you finish" but let me tell you my secret. I do these all the time. Sometimes 2 patches for ac repairs. In one day by using 2 coats of 5 min hot mud, and 1-2 coats of lightweight all purpose. After priming I have to give it an hour but that mud absorbs a lot of it, I give it a 2nd coat of primer and walk away, and when I get back from lunch I deal with paint. It can be done and I'm down to share what I've learned 💪🏽

I use a mix of plaster of Paris and spackle. I fill in the gaps before I tape. And then of course I use a fan to get it to dry. Seems to work OK for me I haven’t had any real issues even going back a few days later checking it with a flashlight against the wall, Great great way to see your patch repair quality. I like your videos been please keep making them I’ve learned a lot from you. Thank you, D. C

Ben, I love your videos. Since you told me how to feather the edge I can't stop renovating our house! My wife is already mad with me.... thx

I appreciate the unusual level of attention to the subtleties of drywall in this video. I am doing some drywall repair after a leak and I REALLY do not want a building inspector to notice my patch work and turn the attention of the potential buyers towards previous imperfections in my dwelling's plumbing work. That would totally kill the vibe and make them fear an unlucky leak and mold intrusion- just like I experienced, but already fixed. Thank you to my Degros.

I’m so glad you did this one Ben. I’d given up on one days because I never ended up happy with it , I just resigned myself that I suck at making it work. Now I won’t feel so bad about telling them I need to come back a few times...

Love your videos,I always learn multiple things in everyone of your videos,GOD BLESS

It looks like it's just the gap that's messing it up, meaning: there's must be a way to make 1 day wall repair work if the gaps were prepared using different method.

This is really interesting, I have done these patch and paints many times. They always have looked good when I've left the job and never had a call back over it. In my area there is usually texture on walls, so maybe that has something to do with it.

Here’s the thing . . . when it comes to painting and drywall, there is a difference in ability necessity. What I mean is this - I’m a journeyman in both trades with over 30yrs experience. I’ve found that professional painting is pretty straightforward. If you serve a two year apprenticeship in the painting trade, when you’re finished, you’ll be a journeyman with all the capacities to do good work No so with drywall! When it come to drywall, unlike like painting, you HAVE TO HAVE A TALENT for it! Period. It’s like singing. Either you can sing or you can’t, and if you can’t, it doesn’t matter how hard you try you’ll NEVER be a singer. Anyone can learn how to paint. Just spend the time, put in the hours, and you WILL be a good, professional painter. With drywall, if you don’t have the “talent” for it, it doesn’t matter HOW LONG or HOW MANY HOURS you dedicate to it, you’ll NEVER be good at it. Tried it with training different people and found out that it is true.

I use a grouting sponge or drywall sponge once the sand sets up a little. That little bit of moisture takes so much of the effort out of sanding, and it really helps with hard edges.

Part time handyman here. I do one day patch and paint all the time. But I use the 5min quick set with a heat gun, and I’m usually done in 4 hours.

Paint n Primer products means they'll stick to other paints. Very few will work on bare plaster/drywall, or will bubble up when repainted down the road. Best to hit it with 2 hr dry Zinzer first, then topcoat.

Love you're content! Keep it real 💯 always use "primer sealer" that's my advice.

Muding along with you. And the tip about too much water literally answered a question I had.

Man you did a great job, and smooth wall makes it 10x harder.

my uncle does them all the time same process.. we never been called back.. now I'm just thinking if it showed up 3 days later😮😅 great video 💯

Overall great job👍. I've been doing patch and paint for almost 20yrs. Hot dry day, can do several per day, and still have time to get home for dinner. Cold wet day, gonna take two days. Especially with a two coat (5min) quick topping skim and texture, super easy. Smooth wall level 5+ in a sunny location, might take 2half days just to play it safe.

I’ve done same day patch and paints. I don’t really paint anymore however. You have to do light coats. Giving plenty of time for each coat to be at least half way dry. Being patient with the first coat allows that first coat to suck in the moisture of every other coat. And if it’s a flat finish we always comeback for a quick sand or extra skim. You can paint over hot mud but you absolutely need a high quality primer like killz 2 or something

Many thanks for your videos. I have learned a lot from these. Greetings from Antwerp, Belgium

Sanding the quick set edges prior to the finish coat is KEY. Makes such a difference.

You have me wondering what I'm doing wrong, I usually do those small patches in about three hours. I use the heavy mesh tape and 5 minute mud with cold water. 1st coat is just to bed the tape with little effort to smooth except to eliminate high spots. As soon as the mud is stiff enough, no sanding, I do another coat or two maybe three to float everything. Once that is stiff I skim and feather the the edge. I use a hair dryer to dry the edge enough to sand and blend to the surrounding surface, I'm not good at wet sanding. Everything here is textured so I apply texture, the can stuff takes two coats with dry time between. The hair dryer gets the texture to set quickly, a light sand to knock off the points in the texture then paint. Two coats of flat on the patch and its good or with sheen paint, one coat on the patch then one coat on the whole wall or ceiling area. Hot mud still needs hours to dry but with care I've had no trouble layering the hot mud once its stiff enough to hold its shape. I've never heard, until this video, not to paint hot mud. I think I have always covered it with texture so maybe that does the trick, no clue. I often apply texture and paint on "stiff" hot mud and the only issue is being careful to blend the edge. One thing I have to watch for is that the texture seems to shrink more on the damp hot mud and it doesn't show until paint but if it was easy I couldn't make a living. I really appreciate your videos. Even though I do this every day I still learn from watching other guys so thank you.

Nice videos bro. I do patch and paint all the time. I use quickset,never as a finish coat though. 2 light coats of quickset and bucket mudd as a finish coat. Sometimes 2 super lite coats of bucket mudd. Run a fan on that jewel for 1-3 hours and paint. Thanks for these videos.

This whole dynamic changes if it's a textured wall. You can pretty much do the whole patch with hot mud if the wall is textured. If you're doing knockdown, just be sure to prime before texturing, and prime a larger area than the texture. Otherwise the texture dries faster on the mud than on the original paint, and will knock down differently.

That backhand at 3:49 Ben's ready for Wimbledon.

Been doing this stuff over 40 yrs and For some reason i keep looking for flaws in your systems - I have certainly found things that I disagree with, but not enough to become a “troll “ about them Overall I think you do a great job & describe your process impeccably. I never did get the idea of switching back-and-forth between Hawk & Trowel versus /pan and knife ,and most of the professionals I know use one ,or the other , but I guess that’s just another tool set that you have mastered, that maybe I did not. Good job.

Btw, the lighting in this video is great! The high contrast from light to dark looks pro

Thanks for proving what ive been telling contractors for years!

I think the most important step is prefill and let that fully dry. Like 2 hours at 100 degrees F. I typically also use a dedicated high quality primer.

I think the water in the finish mud penetrates the quick set mud and that's why it expands like that. If you seal the quickset mud before the finish coat, I think you won't have that problem. But who knows. These kids have a mind of their own sometimes.

I appreciate your insight!

32 yr handyman here in N Calif wine country (Sonoma, not Napa). Patch work is fun because it literally is an art form. The light touch, angling the knife, the imperceptible differences in pressure that make for a fine job! Very rewarding! It's interesting to realize that the harder something dries the glossier it is when smoothed - and that you want regular mud eventually for that proper texture for painting ! Thanks Ben!

My 1 day & dones definitely do not turn out as well, but I'm very picky about my work. Anyone else working with me generally say that its perfect as I'm getting ready to cut the entire patch out and start again. 15 years and zero callbacks can be a curse when doing production work, making sure everything is done correctly and the repair is erased from the timeline because it blended so well is my goal everytime, needless to say several of my weekends have been donated free of charge to the cause😢. 2 coats of eazy sand w/ glue 20 or 90m depending on time frame, fans & heat, scrape and wet sponge edges to blend, 3rd coat of all purp, fans, wet sponge & scrape. Touch up with all purpose skim coats using super flex stain steel blades and final sponge. Primer, touch up skim w/ all purpose for light textures & re prime, then texture, wet sponge & de-bur texture if need to blend, primer, paint. I prefer my mud dries over night before primer, had to fix bubbled primer before just as I started texturing, sometimes even pulling off as I'm priming after texture, so irritating to have to do things twice because of rushing.... thanks for the videos, I've learned alot!

First of all make the patch as flat as possible or atleast have patch recessed an 1/8 so you don't have to feathered that far out. Sand wall around area to recess it for mud. Orbital sander works great. One thin coat of 5 min and dry with heat gun. If still recessed do another thin layer of 5 min and dry it. Add some plus 3 not all purpose just to make it easy to sand and dry that with heat gun. When using heat gun also run fan behind it. Once dried hit with quick dry primer. Within 20 minutes of priming you can add wall paint. This can all be done including unloading and packing up tools in 3 hours.

This was great to watch. Someone knowledgeable and taking pride in a job well done! If more workers were like this I would actually be able to let someone else do a job at my home. Just beautiful work and so helpful for showing “us”, the ones trying to do it right!

Always done one day patch, (texture) and paint and it’s always worked out great. I am a journeyman drywaller, but I’ve always used 5 instead of 20.

I remodel one room in our house every summer. I have a portable dehumidifier that I run for a day after taping with all purpose joint compound. I have never tried to paint the same day.

I've actually had what happened to Ben happen once on a job, on a popcorn ceiling removal job, it wasn't even one day, but paint the next day. After removing the popcorn I pretty much had to retape the room, and retape around a box with one recessed light in it, and feather/etc, and it all looked great when I left it, but I noticed the day I was sanding it and painting it once I got down to the hot mud it was still damp, and my boss was really adamant on getting it done that day, especially because it was a lower income property, so I just went for it and painted it. I even took pictures for my boss that day and everything looked perfect, but the next day it actually shrank a little bit and you could see a ridge/outline around the light. That's the only time I ever had it happen that severely, and admittedly it was just too damp to proceed, but from how the AP dried you would definitely guess it was dry, but underneath the hot mud still didn't finish doing what it needed to do.

I think this would be a great video to revisit maybe by teaming up with some of the people that do the one day patches and getting a feel for their workflow. and quality. Personally, I won't really do a one-day patch, but I could see where adding a shellac prime after all coats are on might fix things but I could also see where it could trap gases and cause issues further down the line. For me, it's not hard to pass on the painting to the homeowner or swing back the next day and finish her up. But if I live somewhere with our plus traffic each direction to the job site, I might feel differently about that.

wow nice advise, thanx to sharing. If a pro like you can`t do it there no chance nobody can do it, I will remember that for the futur.

12:07 Ben's Drywall "Woman" 👐🤣 PS- Great job Ben, I don't even mess with quick set, just AP, but I'm never in a rush 👍

i used to work for a roofing company, i mainly did drywall repairs, varying from a foot thru the ceiling, to a new skylight install....i never used quick mud because of that reason....i always used all purpose....and they always took about 4 visits......

Very helpful!. Thank you.

Another great video!

I put finish paint on quickset every day. First coat of paint flashes and second coat of paint is perfect. SW Promar 200.

I always keep a roll of 1" painter's tape in the truck. I'll give it to the homeowner to point out holidays and any other issues with patches and paint. It might look great at 2pm, but by 5 every imperfection is on full display.

I'm in Colorado. For reasons lost to time, walls are textured here. Paper tape for less buid up. Two coats of five minute. Burnish the last coat right it sets hard. Texture with an oil based spray can. Let all that dry for 40 minutes without a fan or heat. One heavy coat of primer. Two coats of wall paint. Done in three hours

First two coats for me is 50/50 mix. (Westpac- Fast Set 20 minute and Westpac -White Dot All Purpose ) Mix your powder and water first, then add your all purpose once you’ve mixed properly, powder and water. Final Coat-texture : Westpac White Dot All Purpose .Only After they dry I paint. No problem, no issues. Being doing it for years. Hope it helps . .I also live in Arizona, weather might have something to do with the setting of the compound