Vandoren Clarinet Reeds: Quick play-test comparing Traditional, V12, 56 Rue le Pic, and V21.

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Queen Reed

Queen Reed

4 жыл бұрын

Vandoren makes many types of clarinet reeds. How do you know which one you'll like better? In this video, I play each reed right out of the packaging so you can hear the differences between them!
Who is Queen Reed?
Queen Reed is just a name that sounded good to me once when I was signing up for something musicky and didn't want to provide my real name. I am obviously not a queen. There is nothing I claim to rule, especially not reeds! And this rather presumptive title is at firm odds with the view I hold of myself as a performer, educator, creator, advocate, and occasionally (we've all been there), a complete imposter.
You, Me, We, have all had life and music experiences that help others when we share them. Along my way here, I have picked up a good deal about playing and teaching the barkystick we call the Clarinet. And when I zoom around the internet for help, advice, insight, I want the most specific, articulate help I can find. So this is what I offer - not only what works for me, but whenever I can figure it out, why and how I think it works.
Quite simply, Queen Reed wants to share everything she knows about playing, learning, and teaching clarinet with the hope that it will make your life easier, help you feel connected to others, build your knowledge - which is power, and enable you to get more and more joy out of your own barkystick.

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@blevinsmusic
@blevinsmusic 4 ай бұрын
I just began breaking in 5 56's (not "strength" 5, but half of a box) and I am just amazed. All five of them are "players." I can already tell. I had read somewhere that they are a great pairing with my mouthpiece (BD4) and that seems to be true. Thanks for this comparison!
@emjay2045
@emjay2045 3 жыл бұрын
Brava! Beautiful sound. I wish I would had purchased a Vintage when I had the chance...
@ClariHero
@ClariHero 9 ай бұрын
Very helpful review.. Short and sweet 👌
@billducker7404
@billducker7404 3 жыл бұрын
Just playing out of the box straightaway mean anything? It's a nice idea and thank you for your video. I've even used Vandoren Juno reeds! I had a stroke a couple of years ago To start with I couldn't blow at all after a lifetime of playing. But after lots of prayer medication and using soft reeds I came back to playing again using mostly the Juno reeds. It's a very scary scene when you suddenly can't play again but there is a way back and those reeds helped me. And I started to play in just a little register for some time just like a beginner. So don't give up if you ever find yourself in the position I was in. Vandoren make excellent reeds I have used them consistently for over 60 years During the 50s it was almost impossible to get VanDoren reeds due to the fields having been burned during the war. I also remember that came in boxes of 20. Yes they were like gold dust I think they have gone on improving especially since the new packaging was introduced. Thank you for what you are doing God bless you and yours - happy New Year to all - Bill - UK
@queenreed373
@queenreed373 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment - I'm so happy you are playing again!
@chinchillaintheheat2641
@chinchillaintheheat2641 4 ай бұрын
I was a clarinet performance major but got mega burned out. In those times, I preferred the regular purple box, 3.5's. I used to find that there was only around 3 I ended up liking in an entire box. I went through this whole rigmarole of carefully breaking each one in and then chucking out the ones I didn't like. I could never get ito the v12's or stiffer reeds. I wasn't a "dark" tone type of person. Liked things clear and resolute. All of that plus the fact that missing a day of practice and all the sudden your embouchure is weak made me so discouraged. Now I just play keyboard and guitar in my spare time but sometimes I miss the joys of clarinet, particularly playing in an orchestra and chamber groups.
@pukalo
@pukalo Жыл бұрын
The 56 sounds best to me, with purple box coming in second.
@zvonimirtosic6171
@zvonimirtosic6171 2 жыл бұрын
Clarinettists often choose the reed that sounds good to them behind the instrument, and what is easier to play. So this is interesting; to me, your clarinet produced abundance of overtones and signing qualities across registers with Traditional reed. Other reeds had some inertia, emphasis, or 'colouring', which may work in some genres. Perhaps choose different reeds for different styles of music, rather than choosing just one, which seems "easier to play"?
@queenreed373
@queenreed373 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely! We want nuance for chamber settings and a little more projection and punch for big halls. And genre is an entirely separate conversation!
@gsco82
@gsco82 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing the comparison, and especially the remarks on how the reeds felt. You have affirmed my decision to stay with V-12s, which I have been using for the past 10-12 years.
@queenreed373
@queenreed373 Жыл бұрын
excellent! It's so important to go with sound and feel when we play -- it needs to be comfortable in order to sing!
@alfredicy
@alfredicy 4 жыл бұрын
Played both V12 and V21 and I agree that the V21 is darker and beefier but harder to play. Also I found the V21 is good for playing large leaps! But im still struggling to find a suitable strength for the V21
@queenreed373
@queenreed373 4 жыл бұрын
Yes - the V21's are a bit of both worlds - round in the lower range but thinner feeling up high, so it's hard to settle on a good strength. Maybe go for a slightly harder feel, and whittle away till it's right!
@emjay2045
@emjay2045 3 жыл бұрын
Traditional all the way !! It seems like you have more flexibility with the traditional reeds... but “where’s the beef?” The V-12 is it because I’ve noticed what you’ve noticed... however, v-21’s are too pudgy
@queenreed373
@queenreed373 3 жыл бұрын
Ha! Love the word pudgy to describe the V21s! :)
@shotagogodze3156
@shotagogodze3156 3 жыл бұрын
V12 super
@partticle2222
@partticle2222 2 жыл бұрын
The random V12 was the better, among the others
@klarinetta
@klarinetta 3 жыл бұрын
V12 has the most even sound from top to bottom.
@queenreed373
@queenreed373 3 жыл бұрын
yes, evenness is such a hard thing to accomplish, and any reed that helps us toward that end is a good reed!
@rolandoperdomo1955
@rolandoperdomo1955 3 жыл бұрын
I usually use legere clarinet signature 2.5 with a pyne simfonía and Hite mouthpieces as well.
@queenreed373
@queenreed373 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Always great to hear what works for each person!
@rolandoperdomo1955
@rolandoperdomo1955 3 жыл бұрын
Are you a teacher here in California?
@queenreed373
@queenreed373 3 жыл бұрын
@@rolandoperdomo1955 yep! website: www.queenreed.com
@rolandoperdomo1955
@rolandoperdomo1955 3 жыл бұрын
I am a recorder player. I graduated from Santa Monica College in 2016. I had a little background learning the clarinet when I was living in another country back in 2002. I dedicated myself to play recorders from sopranino to tenor. I am very impressed about your degrees and education. I decided to learn the clarinet. I have been practicing it for 15 months already...
@queenreed373
@queenreed373 3 жыл бұрын
@@rolandoperdomo1955 Right ON! Keep at it!
@indyjoe36ify
@indyjoe36ify 3 жыл бұрын
Bit off topic, but what kind of barrel is that that you're using?
@queenreed373
@queenreed373 3 жыл бұрын
That's my Fobes barrel! It does a good job with that clarinet -- my vintage R13. But now I have a Prestige R13 and the stock barrel sounds a teeny bit better than the Fobes on it.
@saxefoner
@saxefoner Жыл бұрын
Blue box is harder than the V12; all 10 V12a were good, but only 6 of the blue box..
@jimis3167
@jimis3167 3 жыл бұрын
This is the Luyben ligature you use here?
@queenreed373
@queenreed373 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! I rotate back and forth between that Luyben and a Rovner most of the time!
@is02ub
@is02ub 3 жыл бұрын
Try playing these different Vandoren reeds on a very closed tip opening mouthpiece (1.03mm and less - down to 0.96mm) across all registers, and you will be able to pick the winner instantly.
@queenreed373
@queenreed373 3 жыл бұрын
Good point! -- all our reeds will behave differently on different mouthpieces. Mine is more open - B40 Lyre. If I want to play on a more closed-tip I'd have to move up a strength!
@is02ub
@is02ub 3 жыл бұрын
@@queenreed373 The strength does play a role with any tip opening. I was alluding to the 4 different Vandoren reed models. I find that the closed tip mouthpieces play best on the Traditional blue box reeds.
@queenreed373
@queenreed373 3 жыл бұрын
@@is02ub nice!!
@davidwinfrey2861
@davidwinfrey2861 3 жыл бұрын
This is what works for me. I perform on rico cause on my clarinet Rico has the best tone. It takes about 3 months for my regular vandoren to break in. Rico I. My opinion has the tome i want.
@queenreed373
@queenreed373 3 жыл бұрын
Neat!-- it's so important to go for the sound YOU want and YOU like!
@jimis3167
@jimis3167 6 ай бұрын
Can you recall what strength were the reeds?
@queenreed373
@queenreed373 5 ай бұрын
Pretty sure I was using 3's across the board. It's possible I had 3.5's but more likely 3s. Hope this helps!
@jimis3167
@jimis3167 5 ай бұрын
​@@queenreed373 Seem right strength numbers for the B40 lyre, that's what I wanted to check.
@Brave_Aviator
@Brave_Aviator 4 жыл бұрын
Which is reed is cleaner in the high range?
@queenreed373
@queenreed373 4 жыл бұрын
Great question - for me, they are all clean and pure in the high range, but the V21’s and the V12’s are both meatier, more substantial, and have a larger shape of sound up high for me. That goes hand in hand with the mouthpiece I use: Vandoren B40Lyre 13.
@Brave_Aviator
@Brave_Aviator 4 жыл бұрын
@@queenreed373 the problem is that i use a vandoren bd5 mouthpiece so our outcomes might be different lol
@queenreed373
@queenreed373 4 жыл бұрын
@@Brave_Aviator The BD5 is nice! I lose too much core in the sound when I use my BD5 - but I gain an evenness across the range with it. I can see what you mean about clean high notes - it is one of the reasons I don't use my BD5, there's a little gunk in the sound for me and I hear it up high.
@Brave_Aviator
@Brave_Aviator 4 жыл бұрын
Queen Reed I seem to get very good sound out of my bd5. Maybe because I’m used to it but my high notes are pretty good but right now I feel like the reed strength I’m using is too soft and that might be a problem with high range
@queenreed373
@queenreed373 4 жыл бұрын
@@Brave_Aviator yaaaasss! soft-ish reeds just won't do high notes well.
@johnfrazier5548
@johnfrazier5548 11 ай бұрын
It’s not possible to judge that way when every reed in the box is different from each other. How about trying all 10, finding the best one or two, then comparing. That’s the way!
@queenreed373
@queenreed373 11 ай бұрын
You make such a good point. It would be so wonderful (for my sanity and my wallet) if all 10 in a box were essentially equal! Vandoren is making synthetic reeds now - maybe that's the ticket?!
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