Turns from a promotion to a plea. Doesn't result in a good sell. BUT at least it's transparent.

@@vysusvt the thing is i don’t even think overdress is at that bad of a state, like sales of products hv been decent, merch r sold so i dun know why he’s so worried about vg dying

@@yamuelsam Because there are currently less than 40% the number of local shops hosting weeklies for it in the US compared to 8 years ago in 2013. Less than 200 stores are keeping the game going; it's been on a slow downward trend for years that the pandemic dramatically accelerated. In Japan the 2019-2020 fiscal year saw a 20% drop in sales for Vanguard, while Media Create's quarterly report for March 30th - August 30th 2020 showed the game making 67% of its revenue compared to the same period in 2019. The last year Vanguard made more money compared to its previous one in the domestic market was 2018, so it's already been in financial decline for two years on top of being played at less places than ever before--putting it in a dangerously close position to where Buddyfight was prior to its cancellation. On the international level, California was Vanguard's largest US customer base, but has gone from 50+ active shops to just 16, while major urban stores like Core TCG have dropped the game for Digimon. (Currently, Digimon is actively carried at 90 stores in CA and weeklies are being held at 59 of those, roughly double and triple what Vanguard is doing in terms of carriers versus event hosts.) Other states that already only had a small number of locals have fared even worse. Massachusetts dropped from 11 stores to 4, Michigan went from 9 to 3, and some states are down to a single active shop. The game has not been hit as hard in Western Europe, but it has stagnated--there are exactly the same number of carriers now as 8 years ago. This is all going on as we're entering a highly competitive market where players will have more options than ever before, coming from Flesh & Blood, Digimon, Wixoss, and Gate Ruler. In October, Japanese Vanguard will be going up against Build Divide, which is timed to hit just as OverDress' second season is airing, and given Aniplex's scope as a global big-money company, this is likely the beginning of a major international clash between them and Bushiroad. We're watching the fight for Vanguard's future play out in real time all over the world. If we don't band together now, we'll be annihilated.

​@@lost-worlds If Overdress isn't doing well its not something the player base can fix: it's a fundamental issue that solely relies on Bushiroad to resolve, especially if it's still aiming to become "the #1 TCG". The $4 starter decks and producer communication were great, but the anime's a huge miss and something's lacking for sure in the design department if players aren't showing up and stores don't feel confident stocking the game.

@@ANblader001 We don't know how OverDress is doing, and we won't know for several months because of the nature of these quarterly reports. We only know that pre-OD was bad enough to make this do or die. You can vote with your dollar to kill a business; you can also vote with your dollar to save it.

Can you start with a start deck or you have to buy more cards or maybe more than one deck? Thanks

Overdress is balanced? Lol this is Vangaurd, just give it time and it will become unbalanced fast and many of the decks will end up playing the same. This is the comment I would have left a year ago, when you posted this comment. However it's already become like this in Overdress, as it always inevitably does in Vanguard because Bushiroad sucks at card design.

@@MatthewCJoy I feel you mate *Looks at Chronojet and Messiah*

Yes, vanguard is very good. This, yugioh and mtg top 3

i second this, would really like your opinion on vanguard in 2023

Seriously. I've been a player ever since early g, and I stopped having fun at the end of G where the abilities and power creep accelerated to insane levels and there were turns it felt like were impossible to survive like with final support dominate. And those turns practically never minused the active turn player in terms of cards. Premium has always felt like that to Me, and that just makes it a very unfun format to play or even attempt to get into. Which is a shame because on paper I'd love to make a deck with such a huge card pool to pull from, but what's the point if I get killed before I can even blink if I fight gp, or I fight dI that kill me in one turn no matter what my damage is at or stand trigger abuse decks like valkerion and blade master.

There has to be something analogous to Goat format in YGO out there. I'm convinced it's as simple as BT4 format, but everyone gets a Ride Deck and vanilla triggers have the clan limitation removed

I got chills when he said "stand up your vanguard"

also the overDress anime is a lot of fun and very well animated

Bandai's lack of confidence in the game was appalling. It deserved so much better.

@@lost-worlds I still play it thanks to some people translating the cards to English thankfully. But I still want to be able to buy the cards. Time to learn a second language

I still play the Japanese DS game from time to time. If you do pick up Japanese, it's pretty fun.

@@lost-worlds I mean, it's still running in Japan, and is pretty strong there. it's also the only tcg to end up in super robot wars which is definitely a thing

well... its back.

Go for it dude 👍

Nice!

Yea the freaking 20 something clans didnt help. Nations is much nicer, but I still find problems with the deck themes not to mention nostalgia cards.

Reading this really makes me want to try CFV. I picked TCGs back up with FaB (I LOVE FaB) and this game is giving me strong “you missed this while you were away” vibes. Will probably pick up a couple decks to jam before an armory night.

@@chopc2w highly recomend it, it plays with some of the same fundamentals as fab and is heavily opponent and decision based as well. the only thing is dont judge it by the start decks/standard its fun but the complexity and true potential of the game isnt shown. highly recomend solemn vanguard on youtube if you ever wanna look into the competitive side.

Does vanguard EX have an English version?

You could play vanguard area, I have the link if you want. You can play all 3 of the styles of vanguard

vanguard dear days copium but its overdress format tho

I know the time period you're talking about. I remember going into a card shop that had a yugioh player base in prior years and at that time yugioh was dead in that store and everyone was playing Vanguard. Now, Vanguard is dead and everyone is playing Yugioh. I think this might be more of a smaller population issue since where I live we don't have as many people as other places, but if each game had their own player base or everyone played both then it wouldn't have been an issue and everyone could play. I've always been a yugioh player myself and I'm really curious about Vanguard. I love how the cards look and they're super cheap compared to Yugioh.

​@@kylovich7129 Yeah my experience is similar to that. It was like months after I returned to playing Yugioh in 2017 and after years of believing that locals for it never existed in my city at all which made me quit in the first place. I only knew that Yugioh players were playing on chess tables at a park and Vanguard players in that bakeshop that used to host Yugioh. A year later, Yugioh players returned to that bakeshop after some negotiations and both games coexisted until Covid made the bakeshop stop catering to card games and us Yugioh players moved to another place. Still have no idea where do Vanguard players play now though some of them returned to playing Yugioh but still, it's a relatively small community. Since I live in Asia, Yugioh cards are cheap (based on what TCG people say) here since we use cards in the OCG. Despite that, I still find Yugioh kinda expensive to play on paper and it kinda tempts me to start playing Vanguard given that the starter decks cost around 200 pesos ($4).

It will have one eventually. Orfist is essentially mecha enough to tie people over at least.

2020 was literally just the second time that happened, treating it as a recurring pattern that happens all the time is a bigger stretch than goatse. Game was great from 2011~2016 and it's been fantastic since the second reboot. The starter deck bosses from last year are still competitive now, and every set's introduced new ride lines while providing support for old ones. It's the only game where players spend the month before a major release whining about how weak a new boss is and then it wins 14% of all tournaments after launch anyway because it's fun to play. (Also the only game where 14% can be a majority because there are so many viable decks.) As bad as things got through the end of V series, Bushiroad's done a lot to earn back the players' trust by reviving the public playtest program, limiting critical triggers, and diversifying nation support. Sure there's room for it to get better--no one's 100% satisfied with how regionals are structured--but we've entered a format where you never know what decks will win anymore. You should give it a shot.

Did you ever get an answer? I'm asking the same

Uh sorry, somehow my reply to this got swapped with a reply to a different comment...the $200 alt arts are neat, but personally, I'm content to just buy the $5 starter decks and get a playset of the normal art. Or go through the shop commons and de-rarity my deck as much as possible.

Maybe atleast g format

What makes you say that?

@@mhz3317 well people are getting hyped and card designs have been balanced. Standard currently is a pretty fun format and all formats get constant support

@@kamenridereclipse3217 that's great to hear. How's it doing sales wise?

@@mhz3317 you can check as idk, but there has been high participation in BSFO and springfest

@@kamenridereclipse3217 gotcha Thanks

You can Check out this link [kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o7OaiauKrpPZXWQ.html] from the official Cardfight Vanguard YT on how to play vanguard OverDress and should be easy to follow. If needed you can also check out different Cardfight Vanguard KZfaq channels if you want to kinda get more in-depth info about the game. P.S. If links are discouraged in this comment section pls let me know

I understand your concern. I was ready to give up way back during Bermuda Summer in V; but playing OverDress firsthand really changed my view of it. Mori is doing a lot of good for the game, and the balance and deck diversity is among the tightest it's ever been--I'm actually looking forward to the Lyrical booster now, which I never imagined I'd be.

@@lost-worlds Maybe, sad this came out so late...some are too burned to play now.

Yeahh…. This is why i watch the first years of something that is rebooted for a first time. Reboots are double edged swords either bringing success or bringing a massive flop. But if Bushi truly learned something from the mistakes of V then Overdress might have a bright future.

Just because you checked out of them doesn't mean those communities stopped existing. They expanded into Discord, KZfaq, and Twitter; that hasn't taken away from the countless local hobby shops running them, or from players like Jason Klaczynski passing the torch to the next generation. I was already an adult when Vanguard came to the US, it was never a fad; it never got that much of a chance. Many shops refused to carry it at the start because they insisted only the Big Three were viable games. Most of the American players were 18~25 when it started, some in their 30s--barely any children played. If my game dies, what's left for me at locals? What am I supposed to play? Metazoo? Shadowverse? Yet another Magic clone? There isn't anything else that copied Vanguard's unique hooks; the drive check, the shield system, counterblast. 12 years on and it's still unlike anything else out there. How is it in any way right that Magic, Pokemon, and YGO should thrive for all this time, while more innovative games are cast aside? We know from other markets that it doesn't have to be this way. Duel Masters and Battle Spirits have continued uninterrupted in Japan since 2001 and 2008. Digimon 2020 and Flesh & Blood finally broke through the Big Three's deathgrip on western markets and opened up local retail to smaller games--this is an opportunity for Vanguard to live, instead of just survive.