BTW I was pretty active beta, pre-Auction Houses and during Beta 2's Rest System phase, I basically lived at The Crossroads for like 2-3 months lol. And the speculation 'ran out of time' is pretty certain I think. Westfall was Kaplan/Tigole's baby. Duskwood and Elwynn got immense amount of polish. Even the first Forsaken areas did. I don't think they necessarily ran out of time per se because Barrens was pretty much in at the same time as the Forsaken areas -- which did have Human and Dwarf levels of quality detail IMO -- it's just it probably made the most sense that if one area was gonna, it makes sense to make it the open plains one. Which, of course, was always the counter argument -- of course it's barren, it's a Barrens! which is silly of course because the problem with the Barrens was never that it was open plains but even the content detailing within it was lacking -- the most barren plains could be loaded with alive NPCs, little nooks and crannies, story and dungeon arcs as good as Deadmines, etc. So it was never that it was an open plains; it was that it felt like they finished the art and spend 1 week randomly plotting done random quests and NPCs with none of the crafting and caring that many other zones received.

Trevor Philips Best comment 👍🏻

Just to come back and find your character stuck in a bush 10 steps away from where it was.

4. ???? 5. PROFIT

Man, those were the days...

Idk why, I kept thinking Thousand Needles was a dungeon when I heard about it in the chat. I was a bit disappointed

And your first encounter with........... The silithid. *Shudders*

@@DivineAtheistWannabe I always wondered why there wasn't a grimtotem instance to fight those bastards in.

Memories unlocked!!!

I will never forget my first time entering Tanaris

That's an overly optimistic view of the world that doesn't take into account human nature. It's like saying, "There will never be another Measles outbreak."

@@andrewjensen8128 no he means now that Classic WoW is coming out, we will be able to experience the Barrens in their original state

@@kid_ock I figured that he was looking forward to the Barrens coming back. I was being facetious, but my hatred for the Barrens is entirely sincere.

I'm so excited to get the Vanilla servers!

The Jordan peterson inflection is strong in this here, kiddo

I learnt so many interesting facts about *High Overlord Saurfang while grinding through the Barrens. ftfy :)

Did you know Chuck Norris is a meme, and got his ass kicked?

The only thing Chuck Norris fears is Chuck Norris himself.

@@givemeanameman1 And Jackie Chan. Because Jackie beat Shite Norris in a fight.

@@GrumbleGombol Pretty sure that's Bruce Lee you're thinking of, dude

rite* Also alliance had it worse in redridge.

Ha! Not even close! Redridge is sandwiched between Elwynn Forest and Burning Steppes, ones a lvl 45-50 zone and the other is a zone containing an Alliance capital city. The easiest way to get there for a Horde is through STV, and they still have to travel through two zones. Compare that to the Barrens, one boat ride and you're there, and there's even a handy neutral town to fall back to incase you get overrun by the defenders.

CarrowMind don't forget the 4 Alliance Elites roaming the zone ready to do the work for them.

Also doing quests as shaman there, or if you wanted to go Tanaris or Searing Gorge etc. u had a long long long never ending journey, omg.... : D

I got ganked my fair share of times leveling through Duskwood and Redridge back in Vanilla. Lots of Horde used to screw with Alliance in Duskwood, at least on my server. I had to go there on my main more than once every time I was leveling an alt there to take care of Horde griefers. At least in the Barrens, Horde were protected from being attacked without consent.

And hunt gnome warlocks around the Ratchet trying to get their succubi quest... I lost count how many of those little bastrads I murdered and cannibalized in the days of yore. Humans could go in peace, gnomes were food.

Where's Mankrik wife ?!

I'm interested to see what wow classic will be like. Will I be abandoning the vanilla servers I already play and what will the financing be like on it. I assume it might be a sub thing. Or maybe since it wouldn't be a progressive and on going game they'd make it one time or maybe even all together free it's not like it's hard to find a unofficial vanilla server. All though I doubt blizzard would do that their a company after all. I'm sure they'd find a way to get everyone to join their vanilla server instead I mean most of us only played the others because the live version had been going down hill for a long time now, sometimes they level it out but I don't see it going up hill anytime soon. At least not in the way a lot of people wish it would. A lot of people loved some of the old mechanics. Like the hunter pets. The talent tree being capable of a hybrid class. Rather then a single thing. Honestly despite the fact it would make you weaker it was the ability to be unique that I always found the most endearing towards the vanilla talent system rather then the live versions. None the less vanilla certainly will be something to keep a eye on. Hell maybe we might get to see two live versions for once lol. Maybe they will redevelop the games in a different way. Unfixing all the stuff they fixed and make a hardcore wow lol is certainly a interesting thought however theirs gonna be someone unhappy no matter what they do. While I grew up playing wow, having being a child when I first started watching my step dad on his computer half the night on vanilla wow, then finally getting my own version of wow. I'll never be able to relive that feeling the first time I got to play wow. I sucked badly lmfao I was always trying to play cacth up with every new expansion I was never able to reach cap level till it got easy the unofficial servers gave me another chance and I did that now blizzard will let me take another crack at it on a official server hell yeah lol let me relive it I'm sure it won't be the same I'll be taller and have more experience and knowledge in relation to the game I got alot better computer to lol it grew with me. It's like me and my computer get to relive our childhoods I can't wait to see how disappointed I'll be... holy shit the very last line of that could have been my entire comment and it would have been the same exact message lmfao

Joey Collins need more fullstops

Dan yep.

I still have Groundhog Day nightmares of endlessly killing zhefras.

@@xostler Reall? I don't recall that quest at all.

One of your favourites is only a 5/10 lol ya got some high standards then

Rencol666 you would make an excellent Klingon. THRALLHAL!

FOR THE HORDE

Me too friend, me too

+Alexandre Larocque that music is.....wow

So many good memories here.

name? :)

MyViolador it's still playing on the barrens to this day

Ha!!! I've never degraded myself to play Horde EVER! (Ally FTW!!!) But I do remember good ole' Vanilla Barrens ;-))) A nice, chilled out place, with lots of yummy Horde meat to eat. Oh yes, I have participated in raids on The Crossroads... Killing ALL on sight... Horde NPCs, players, rats, fish, cats, dogs, birds... ALL!!! Ah... Those were the days ;-))))

John Doe And you have the nerve to call us Horde barbaric. Tssk, filthy murdering Alliance. Make a nonaggression pact only to break it and slaughter women and children with glee.

I knew I had smelled ALLIANCE PIGS there.

Except I see a lot less Chuck Norris and a lot more Keanu Reeves. Its New Old Barrens.

@@abiwonkenabi7027 For me they are repeating all the old 2004 memes and you'd think itd be funny. It really isn't! However, having only played alliance in classic before, the Barrens is actually kinda delightful in recreating a classic experience. I'm finding the tedium is what makes an MMO an MMO, weirdly enough. Which is probably why people whine so much about wanting WoW to return to classic and BC days.

With the modern internet, classic wow barrens is much more bearable, also I think they may have tuned the drop rates as I had no problem with the zheevra quest

ziroth12 same here! Barrens chat is everything I’d ever heard of, as I was also an alliance player back in the day that dropped out around Cata.

Them endless Chuck Norris jokes tho....

You mean, spoken like a rational human being.

Tuhljin Tampergauge No

Idk, I main Alliance and even we had shit talking in the barrens chat at like all times because of RFD, RFK and Crossroads raids. I did play horde for a couple years on another server but barrens was always alive whenever I was there.

RIGHT?!!!

No, spoken like a lazy casual with no willpower stamina or patience. In short - alliance player.

Vanilla WoW is still the best game I ever played. And probably always will be.

Google it "Elysium wow" and join to thousands of players playing Vanilla right now

Melzare I can only agree with you, i had my best experiences in vanilla

i know i was addicted to WoW in 2005. Would wake up at 4am with guildies in the USA to raid MC. Even got half a DP for being there 30 mins early. Farming fire resist gear and having DPS meters on my UI to track myself against other mages, rogues and warlocks. Those were the days :) So much fun. The back and forth PvP battles at Tarren Mill and Southshore as a mid-level horde player. So epic. Expansions are just a reset button, and basically make anything you have of value now be a useless item. Have no regrets quitting WoW just before

gdmclean I slept 2-3 hours a day. Going to sleep by 1-2am and waking up at 4am. I would be so pissed off through out the day and my eyes would always be blood shot lol.

7-14k people online, NEW 100% blizz like wow server, its a free server, dont have to pay a dime, and ANYONE, can play vanilla wow, literally the new server just started so there are like a handful of no-lifers that are 60 lightshope.org/

#wehateblizzardandwhatthedotothsigamethatnamedwowakaworldofwarcraftfuckblizzardandactivision!

Wow's probably the reason you didn't have a social life I'm watching this shit out of curiosity, and I do want to play.. but I'm not going to.

Keven N you’ll never understand

Same lol

branden williams A right of passage for the Horde.

It's almost the same as "I survived Goldshire inn"

Heron Ottoni Ferreira so much erotic RP..

That's why the horde is so violent.

@@jayjayson9613 Alliance scum will not understand. They all pussies

So, I asked Barrens Chat about it, because I thought it was a bit interesting. What happened next? Well, everything went apeshit. Some people didn't believe me and started raging, but those who DID believe me went even crazier. Everybody started to talk about mutant shrimp giraffes that were going to take over The Barrens.. And then the culling of the Barrens Giraffe's started. There were literally raid groups with high level players that started killing the giraffe menace, in order to save the horde from giraffe domination. It was the most insane thing ever and I loved every second of it.

xD

That's awesome

That never happened lol

It did.

same

Barrens chat is still amazing. So nice to see it back to it's glory days.

Nothing beats fishing at ratchet and talking about male circumcision in general.

@@jenkseboy Or fishing at the oasis for deviate fish while listening to discussions of anal fisting.

Keanu Reeves memes now apparently.

It won't be the same though because one part of what made the barren sunique was that before linked flight paths the crossroads was the one flight path that linked to pretty much everything. That's a big reason why Barrens was thw way it was.

@@DaDunge was crossroads never linked to the other fp in other zones in early vanilla?

@@PeterNielsen-ov2is Linked flightpaths wasn't a thing in early wow. You had to do one hop at the time and crossroads sat in the middle of the network for the horde in Kalimdor.

I do as well; I remember playing this back in the day...

Chaz Hartwayne did someone mention...........

THUNDERFURY BLESSED BLADE OF THE WINDSEEKER????

Chaz Hartwayne Shimmering Flats :(

+ LOTR SOLDIER did somebody saaaay?...

The battles to this day....epic!

and if you complained about that everyone just said Dang dude, run to Ratchet!

I only leave barrens once, when I realize was lvl 40 already

+

This is a serious problem with any RPG these days.

Mr.Vojtik So true, and i hate the holding hand through the game and everthing gets delivered on a silver plater. The graphics are getting better sure (in new zones that is) but the gameplay gets worse.

Mr.Vojtik Blame the meta sheeple they the ones that bitch about this stuff the most and ruin the fun for everyone

Basically make the quests harder to complete but give more exp Instead of spoon feeding a huge number quests that they make as easy as possible to pass. And you just trying to burn through them.

Right on, "with a fresh memory", that's the key I think a lot of the old timers forget when they complain about how things have changed. Even if they could revisit the servers exactly as they were, it still wouldn't be as good, because you can never recapture that feeling of discovering something for the first time. I've always thought that one of the reasons WoW made it so big was it came in just at the tail end of when the very concept of an MMORPG was still magical to most people. It was far enough along to reap the benefits of lessons from earlier games like Everquest, but people were still enchanted by the concept of a multitude of people playing in the same world.

Same here. I still love wow but I just cant hardly play it anymore. If I could go back to that magic time it would be fantastic. Oh well, at least we have the memories. The game was truly magical at one point.

Its okay to let it go you are not the only one who feel that way trust me!

Jotun90 same here. the years have gone by too quickly.

same here friend....same here.

Yh , even the receipt drops there afaik xD

43CYN is not what i meant, cause people fish in the lake for that deviate fish hell back then, that was the shit still is

Genes i feel you ,bought my first tuxedo by the deviate fish, also as a horde every time you try and farm it you get spam by ''cross road under attack'' also in alliance AH the recipe is like 3 gold but the fish is like 99 gold i don't get that logic

I made so much gold as an alliance player farming those fish then selling them.

Yes!

I know exactly what u mean. Could never get passed the giant 4 legged dinasaur things that shot lighting bolts at you at low lvl lmao

Trucker Woody been there done that

It won't be the same when it does south park member berries taught me that sadly

@@xeinex maybe not, but it will still be allot more fun than current wow.

Play on lights hope,it's still there

God damn 1 year ago

wowcrendor vic

And im killing some horde members there :D

mAN, that's dark.

Yeah...I am a new player who recently got into legion (fire mage currently at level 109) and I have to say the process of getting there was really fucking boring. Pretty much everything up until like WoD gets 1-shot by something that isn't an autoattack. Dungeon spamming was more fun than questing for me, and dungeon spamming is almost never an enjoyable experience in an mmo. Ugh. Legion is enjoyable, at least.

One of my favorite memories was chilling in the barrens with strangers infront of a camp fire talking about random stuff..so fun!

Yeah somebody told Activision that only raiding mattered. So they did away with the rest of the game just to get you there faster.

wanna say that over desolance or sithlus?

Lol nothing memorable since cata? So either you quit after wotlk, or you're a fucking idiot.

It's such an easy quest to do if you just read the quest.

The quest description gives you no indication on where she was location.

I spent way too much time in Barrens because of constant trolling and shit-posting in the chat.

Need help finding mankrik's wife

The dude is completely wrong, the consumed by hated quest after Mankrik's wife is the cancerous quest, you needed to collect FOURTY quillboar tusks.

TheBlaggert insanely good. God i miss it

I got my first hk off sitting back and waiting for high lvl horde to show up and hitting alliance play right before his death.

one time, a lone high level paladin decided to attack x-roads (Dentarg server, shortly after it was added). all the low level questers, probably 20-30 of us, tried to fend him off. it took several minutes, many of us died, ran back, kept up the fight. but we did it eventually. some low level guy /shouted 'for the horde' after he was killed. yeah, you could say how lame it was that it took so many to kill him. or you could say, the horde players defended their town, and the lone alliance player fought 1 vs many, never asking for help or quarter. this is the old way, we will not see it again. this is old school WoW

Yh it even was on the game box :D

That would have been me ahaha, except I was a mage and often recruited players to join my raids :D

She will wander around the Barrens trying to collect 4 Zhevra pelts for her clothes, but gets knocked out by them and lay there for 10 minutes before moving on. The Crossroads is under attack!

Best comment

The corpse will be burnable and have a spawn time of 15 min.

"She's in my basement"

@@server1ok the corps will be in one of several different places picked at random when the player start the quest.

How is that a profit?

WotLK did improve that with the DK's being able to send enemy players hurtling across the entire continent to the ships of the damned for a while.

Jonathan Gréen LMFAO!!!!!!

You are assuming hew actually wants her back. He's just keeping tabs on her so he know its still safe to drink.

Check out WoW Hellground. They will release a new TBC realm in the first week of March. All scripted, the Kharazan Chess board works perfectly and everything works amazingly and almost perfectly ( so far i have not encountered any bug )! The realm is open until 28 february for testing - you get instant 60 and you can either chose to level in outland or just level until 70 from a vendor. You can get items and start doing dungeons and raids. It will be a blast and I can't wait for them to open the new realm !

why are all these scrubs missing playing the game, when theres plenty of fantastic private servers out there?! its annoying to see how stupid you all are. check em out and forget about blizzard singleplayer facebook game.

i miss vanilla and wotlk. For some reason i never really like bc too much.

Vanilla: elyssium project ; WotLK: Warmane ; TBC: Warmane ( new realm starting at 20 may, it's gonna be as good as Lordaeron, the best wotlk server there is ). Cheers

is there anyway to transfer a char from elyssium to warmane?

Wow classic coming August bro! I know this is a very old comment but if you read it go youtube wow classic. Old is coming back

Now u can both play classic wow. 👍👌🏼 and old barren again

sixties? wow..

Great story 💯

Curiosity killedthecat how is it different now? did the expansions change the landscape?

The zone is cut in half but that's not as important as the fact that all of the quests are much easier. Even though Trolls, Goblins, Tauren and Orc's are all funneled there at once now, it doesn't matter because you can blow through the zone, so nobody needs help, and everyones out pretty quickly Leveling also took forever in vanilla, sometimes quests werent enough for you to outlevel a zone and you'd either go to another zone of similar level (there were usually at least 2 once you got past level 20) or you grind mobs. Back in Vanilla there werent even enough quests in the game to hit level 60 and you basically had to grind the last 5 levels... anyway im getting off topic. Also, now alliance isnt as inclined to attack horde settlements and vice versa... you only ever get lone pranksters now. That's about it. I fondly remember getting corpse camped by a gnome mage level 60 while questing from tarren mill.

Dancer of the Boreal Valley I started during the Burning Crusade, and even then playing on a PVE server, I remember the bloody body pit that was The Crossroads. I remember Alliance players trying to provoke you into attacking and thus switching to pvp mode by killing your quest givers (which is how me and a fellow warlock ended up facing and slaying a level 25 gnome rogue twice at level 18, we each solo killed him once after the other was stealth backstabbed after he forced us into pvp by backstabbing our quest giver multiple times preventing us from quest completion)

thats what im saying...it was super fun and emotionally attaching.

THE CROSSROADS IS UNDER ATTACK! THE CROSSROADS IS UNDER ATTACK! THE CROSSROADS IS UNDER ATTACK!

Ricky Nelson yep... Cause their was no group of people who never had to go-to the barrens unless they decided to go their at Max level.

Horde Dogs! I'll raid crossroads!

Barrens was the appetitser, Tarren Mills was worse, at least in my server back then. Haha

Ik ur comments old but unfortunately it wouldn’t have been the same. Vanilla WoW was a very different thing to Classic community wise

It's funny because you go to a vanilla server, I was on Nost before it was shutdown, community was vibrant and full of life. People everywhere doing quests, helping each other actually DO the quests because you weren't fucking GOD at level 1. Enemies were hard, hell even a small group had trouble in loch modan at the kobald caves! I made four friend there because we accidentally spent 4 hours there just talking and killing the things. You don't see that anymore in current WoW, you don't see that almost anywhere anymore.

I think you had some of both back then. The need to group up made people nicer and want to group up. But then with places like the Barrens being so vast, often you were the only toon for miles around. Helped you fall into the role of the lone hero saving a village or something.

YOU WILL GET A GARRISON AND YOU WILL LIKE IT what's this community? the fuck you thinks this is some sort of mmorpg? what are u gay here is your own artifact now go be a solo cowboy

FeyWinter Fox you say you are a fox but i see a picture of a wolf i don't trust you anymore, also SOONtm for real wow has gone a long way it kinda is better but now i feel is a bit repetetive and too much i do so i go on steam instead of whining on the like internet because what will be the point of it but yeah i hope it get better

There is Elysium right now. I've enjoyed it as much as I did vanilla back in the day.

You could empty the City with a simple phrase. From the Alliance side you knew that, from the first attack, you had X amount of time before you got steamrolled.

But not your undead though 😂

No, No, not the bridge, I don't want to go to the bridge, please ...

lol, thats actually a planned video similar to this one

Depends on which side you're tying to cross from. Red does NOT enjoy the bridge.

hirumaredx Holy shit!

that was the best, games went on for days making it damn near impossible to get the unstoppable force.

The Silver Dragon follow the gold road south, after the bridge, turn right

The Silver Dragon was the good answer back in the days

Did someone say [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]?

Only Barrens chat knows.

I last heard she was turning tricks in Westfall.

Why? It's so different now.

Because I still like it, and never fully explored all the changes. Not that I really need a justification though.

I hope all questing and leveling in Classic will be the same as it used to be. The Barrens was my favorite leveling zone.

RAZRfreak I was Alliance but I had a Horde on another server and Loved Barrens.

It wont be. Itll never be the same again. Rip

RAZRfreak do both!

RAZRfreak It won't be the same as it was back then

Classic wow? has blizzard released a classic wow ?

They announced a Classis WoW server on last Blizzcon. It will probably launch after the release of the next expansion Battle for Azeroth on 14,08,2018.

probably in 2 or 3 years I would say

smilly456 - It won't be the same, though. People are more experienced at the game and have a much better understanding. You'll never get it like it once was.

It won't be the same sadly

and if it wasn't so fun? then you can just say "screw it" and have an alternative to get to max level while having fun, that being the dungeon finder

I'll never understand how playing the same dungeons over and getting 3 levels per dungeon to skip all the hours of content they put into the game is fun. Going out and exploring is so much better than farming dungeons. But whatever floats your boat.

I'm with you, as someone who loves leveling alts I don't even bother with low level dungeons. Going through quests chains, stories great and small, exploring the nooks and crannies of Azeroth, that's what got me into WoW in the first place. I can't imagine wanting to get around that just to sit in Ogri and click LFG/LFR all the time.

Current content is by far more interesting, and if you feel like experiencing old questing, that's what alts are for. This from a player who got in at late vanilla, with just enough time to get a 60 before tbc. Nowadays I have one of every class on both factions. Vets have seen it all before, we don't need to see it again. If that's your thing, great, do that, but all the alternative leveling methods are there for those of us who don't want the old slow way.

I

John Weck RIP Asherons Call. Will be missed

Tanaris and Stranglethorn were beyond awesome too, during BC (when I started playing). Ridiculously high amount of mobs, ridiculously long quests, ridiculously dense concentration of Alliance and Horde players in the same place. It was mayhem all over, everyone was camping everyone and that was a huge part of what made the game great.

Every toon I levelled in Vannilla after the first always levelled in the Barrens, even my undead toons levelled in the Barrens. You could find literally everything there. Every tradeskill was covered, there was frequent world pvp, and chat was always moving when waiting for WSG to pop, once it was added. Even when I played on Nostalrius, I still levelled my toons through the Barrens.

I dont know how silly this sounds but blizzard changing barrens in cata was a major reason in my decision to quit the wow back then

Not silly at all, it was the beginning of my losing interest as well.

But did you survive? ;)

They must have KZfaq access in the coffins now. Ahh, technology.

@Darth Digital That explains why all the trees suddenly disappeared and there's nothing but sand there now

I survived!

LvL60 was a stand up and pump your fist cheer.

Barrens was something unique that came about due to several intersecting factors. Having experienced barrens chat makes one feel like part of something bigger. It's was a rite of passage for all horde😌

Doomhardt high standards or being overly comfort-focused, rather. Like, the most liked games these days are the ones that require not much effort from you, like the narrative-focused ones (Uncharted 4, GoW, TWD, Witcher 3). Sure, there are exceptions like DS series, but it's popular exactly because most other games focus on the player's comfort rather than challenging them.

Right on. I played a few years more than most of the cool people I started with. It was more than just a grind it was a party.

We're back

Me too, I was just thinking that. And doing my warriors class quest there :) no more dungeon finder , easy leveling and walking every where until 40 :) I miss the days of fear of being killed while leveling or just heading to do a quest

yea i feel the dungeon finder made leveling way too easy, nice to level alts but really easy. I cant remember any significant moments leveling my alts but i remember a lot with my main. I haven't played wow since the end of cata and i'm looking forward to coming back. I think ill reroll my main in classic

Classic wow truly has reignited the glory days. Barrens chat is almost identical to what it once was, just with a few less chuck norris jokes, although I still see some popping up for the memes. Welcome to the best zone in WoW.

the door➡️

RoboticsNShenanigans the usinverse is expanding because everything flees from Chuck Norris

Chuck Norris gave the baby Jesus the gift of beard. He wore it until his death.

Chuck Norris can walk on Jesus

good

Aaron Gerste Zombies prep for the Chuck Norris apocalypse.