Vaporeon’s Secret Weapon in Gen 3 OU.

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8 ай бұрын

Pokemon Competitive Singles in Gen 3 has a long history. Vaporeon was once only seen as a defensive water type, where it was largely outclassed by Suicune, Milotic and Starmie.
But in recent years creative gamers have reinvented the identity of Vaporeon. Now most active Gen 3 players associate Vaporeon with its vital role on Hyper Offense teams as an aggressive lead.
A brilliant Vaporeon set emerged that had positive matchups against every common lead, helping the consistency of Aggressive teams by assuring that the early game went well.
This is insane.
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@jimothycool 8 ай бұрын

jimothycool.com/ Get your very own Iron Mugulis! Currently only available in US, Australia and NZ. Ask me on Discord in discord.gg/hssyGya3 or email me at jimothycool.store@gmail.com for any questions about the mug.

@nezantra 8 ай бұрын

Iron Mugy was a shut in just like me?! Now I have to buy one of his clones and continue his outdoor education

@CubeBizz 8 ай бұрын

this is insane

@joetalentoh 8 ай бұрын

I honestly don't know what's more insane, a bulky water reinventing itself as a HO lead or the prize pool for ADV revival surging past $4k.

@xendra333 8 ай бұрын

Tbf, Gen 3 is one of the few gens where you can get away from running "Chinese" ev spreads because of how unique the interactions in this gen are compare to now, where everyone runs 252/252/4 spreads.

@nitro5247 8 ай бұрын

@@xendra333nah the REAL tech is to run 252/252/1/1/1/1 for that ✨optimal mirror coat damage✨

@FrogInShorts 8 ай бұрын

Lore reveal for Iron Mugulis having contempt for being a mug to hold drinks when what he truly desires is to be a planter to hold flowers.

@a-s-greig 8 ай бұрын

That makes sense to me. Being a mug is draining.

@FrogInShorts 8 ай бұрын

@@a-s-greig You really gotta look at it glass half full.

@mamutepeq 8 ай бұрын

Hey guys, did you know that you probably think of Vaporeon as a primarily defensive Pokémon

@Mystic_DW 8 ай бұрын

It was definitely designed that way, with its massive HP stat.

@ZeroForPresident 8 ай бұрын

Not to mention it's utility movepool, and it's defensively oriented water absorb ability.

@DkKobaADV 8 ай бұрын

pokemon community stop making unfunny jokes challenge [failed]

@appelofdoom8211 8 ай бұрын

As well as its good defensive typing

@appelofdoom8211 8 ай бұрын

@@DkKobaADVthis copypasta is only accetable when its subverted instead of cut off or played straight

@petrie911 8 ай бұрын

Vaporeon has the highest special attack of all water types in OU and UUBL. Not all that surprising its best use would be offensive, though subsalac baton pass is certainly quite the spicy set.

@Omar_ZX 8 ай бұрын

I am very ready for the vaporeons that are gonna be filling the ladder after this video like blaziken or regirock

@sassafrassanid5718 8 ай бұрын

Jimothy Cool can make a video about any Pokémon he wants to see more usage for in ADV and people will use it

@hiei49 8 ай бұрын

Don't forget buterfree lol

@leonardobarbosatelles2779 8 ай бұрын

Is there any more solid records of Haunter being used as a 2nd Gengar? A video on that topic would be epic

@appelofdoom8211 8 ай бұрын

I mean someone used duskull as a second dusclops in the adv revival tournament so its probably out there somewhere

@jimothycool 8 ай бұрын

I saw BKC use it in a vid once I think

@hv433 8 ай бұрын

In Stadium Rentals, Gengar is used as a 2nd Haunter, is that kind of a record...?

@mattzr1550 8 ай бұрын

You really really shouldnt

@azeria1 8 ай бұрын

Wolfy used a haunter and gengar once I think made a video on it as well

@boop53 8 ай бұрын

I really like vaporeon’s moveset its like the safest counter to banded or boosted gyarados in dpp ou

@mariokartwii6663 8 ай бұрын

It truly warms my heart to see that iron mugulis has discovered the wonders of nature ☺️

@senpai2.054 8 ай бұрын

"hey uhhh our smeargle lead is kinda not working out, how can we fix this?" "add another lead!"

@agiruda8380 8 ай бұрын

Has Iron Mugulis embarked on a journey of redemption? Will the power of nature and friendship set him straight? Have we been wrong all this time? Is there a larger lurking evil behind the scenes?

@shoogles_ 8 ай бұрын

Vaporeon isn't just my favourite Eeveelution, it's one of my favourites of all time. It was the only Pokémon I could get consistently working back in DPP's Battle Tower, with Wish, Protect, Toxic, and Surf and I've loved it ever since. Always glad to see it carve out a niche for itself.

@WildBandit300 8 ай бұрын

Im happy the fishdog still gets some recognition. It had pretty solid niches all the way to gen 5 only to get killed by power creep and then butchered by internet memes.

@ToluElswordCEO 8 ай бұрын

that hydro pump crit at 03:00 was nasty

@Claudehopper 8 ай бұрын

Wow a vaporeon video and not a single comment about its "compatibility"? Well done everyone.

@ursaminor2732 8 ай бұрын

yet here you are

@hangoverbirdman6339 8 ай бұрын

Saaaaay the line, Bart...

@kheireddineattala1281 8 ай бұрын

did you know that in terms of saying the line, Bart is the most compatible character to say it?

@maskofthedragon 8 ай бұрын

This is insane...

@VJ-Vice 8 ай бұрын

Roar on lead subpass vaporeon is also a very good option to counteract stuff like roar suicune. I saw mcmeghan use it on a cmpass team and it’s super good since you can cmpass to vaporeon and roar before the opponent and roar you out. The cmpass celebi is also a good switch in for lead zapdos since you’re dropping ice beam and using lefties with this set

@yoshineitor 8 ай бұрын

21 years later, people are still maturing the meta. Respect for Jimothy and all those guys labbing this stuff.

@thisisdefinitelymyrealname 8 ай бұрын

I've been messing around with the Kanto eeveelutions in ADV recently. So far Vaporeon is the only one I haven't had a lot of success with and haven't played too much. Jolteon is a horrifying lead with TWave + Sub to throw foes' off balance. This set also helps reveal what Blissey set foes use. Flareon walls Moltres all day and punishes Starmie and Gengar with Shadow Ball and Wish. It also denied a +2 DD Sala sweep with Quick Attack. I knew Vaporeon had some offensive utility-- compared to Suicune, Milotic, and Starmie, it has the highest SpA, but most of the time we end up thinking "Wish Sub Pass." ...But what if we combined all three?

@armorbearer9702 8 ай бұрын

Cool video! I am so glad Vaporeon has a niche in OU. I am a bit surprised Wish was never mentioned.

@nibblerdoo 8 ай бұрын

Dragon Dance Vaporeon: Am I a joke to you?

@AnarchoCatBoyEthan 8 ай бұрын

man i love vaporeon. except not in that weird way lmao

@DiscoPope 8 ай бұрын

fishdog gang

@apiratcc 8 ай бұрын

You probably think of Vaporeon as a primary defensive Pokemon. It was definitely design that way.

@appelofdoom8211 8 ай бұрын

I mean in gen 1 it had an excellent special stat so it was probably meant as a bulky attacker

@user-ty7mk9oj8o 8 ай бұрын

With it's massive HP stat, utility movepool

@chess_fella 8 ай бұрын

Vaporeon has some other famous uses.

@nightmare_1337 8 ай бұрын

Yes, I think of it as a primarily defensive Pokemon. What else an I supposed to think. It‘s not like the internet has shaped it‘s perception in any other kind of direction.

@vivian2798 8 ай бұрын

Wow i actually did think of vaporeon as a primarily defensive pokemon how did you know

@StriiderEclipse 8 ай бұрын

It’s good to see iron mugulis mellow out after discovering the natural wonders of the world, im proud

@maskofthedragon 8 ай бұрын

I can't wait for Iron Mugulus to start his reign of terror on the 3rd dimension!

@techknight3753 8 ай бұрын

Iron Mugulis redemption arc where they learn to embrace the beauty of nature???

@jayscott9882 8 ай бұрын

The "jimothy cool effect" is real. The whole ladder was filled with this team yesterday 🤣

@hagetsuuu 8 ай бұрын

gratz on 57k subs

@TheSandwhichman108 8 ай бұрын

I actually used a vaporeon in fire red. I desperately needed a water type and I didn’t want lapras or a starmie since I’d have to grind a fair amount of levels to get starmie caught up. So I chose vaporeon. It definitely held its own. Plus it got a pretty solid move set early on.

@hot-headedloosewire6878 6 күн бұрын

What's a best nature for a Vaporeon? In gen 3

@TheSandwhichman108 6 күн бұрын

@@hot-headedloosewire6878 If you’re going for stall the best nature would be a special def raising and physical atk lowering nature. Then put most of your ev’s into hp and special def. The remaining in either special atk or physical def. A toxic stall set is probably your best bet. With moves like amnesia,rest, toxic and hydro pump for a more stall focused build for example. For a more special attack focus build go for a special atk raising and physical atk lowering nature. Put your ev’s in hp and then split between special atk and special def. A more aggresive rest talk set with Surf and ice beam are a good option. Hydro pump is a good option but Surf is the better alternative if you prefer reliable stab over pure power.

@nocsu4850 8 ай бұрын

How do I get my Vaporeon to crit 70% of Hydro Pumps like the one shown in the clips?

@BigfudgeRTN 8 ай бұрын

No wonder I just saw 3 vap leads in the past hour lol

@rotem6033 8 ай бұрын

Video suggestion: what happened to TSS rock spam after gen3? Where does it stand in DPP onwards?

@andersolson44 8 ай бұрын

TSS is usually outclassed by stealth rocks in gen 4, and there are a large amount of strong ground and steel mons in newer gens who just don't care about rock type attacks. 8 Ground Types in OU is a meme for a reason, and ground's been a strong type for a good 6 generations in a row now

@majorscrub2856 8 ай бұрын

@@andersolson44 Yeah, the existence of stealth rock warps the meta, and in a roundabout way, makes rock types worse. With stealth rock, rock weak pokemon are disenfranchised from the metagame, while pokemon who are neutral, or resistant, actively gain value. Defensively, rock types are also pre much just worse steel types, with the main types they resist being pushed out by stealth rock, similarly.

@FlamingZelda3 8 ай бұрын

Can someone explain to me the competitive differences between gens 3 and 4 OU? I’ve played every other gen on showdown/Pokémon online

@noble0155 8 ай бұрын

i used to baton pass with blaziken. bulk up, sword dance, hone claws, whatever i felt like passing with the speed boost. drain punch for recovery if needed

@0001aardvark 8 ай бұрын

Blaziken doesn’t learn drain punch???

@goksir5845 8 ай бұрын

i hope iron jugulis never finds out about the real world

@jimothycool 8 ай бұрын

That would be a disaster.

@rainbowgg___ 8 ай бұрын

It sure counters my fav suicune set [max hp/spd rest, sleep talk, cm, surf]

@its_me_jamie 8 ай бұрын

This is insane

@the_PvP_expert 8 ай бұрын

Hey jim i saw you made a video on this team about a year ago expect with registeel , how come you tell us about it just now?

@blunderpolicy 8 ай бұрын

A little bit of Haunter gaming has been spotted in this Gen 3 OU video. This is surprising.

@MatterMadeMoot 8 ай бұрын

No, thank YOU Jimothy

@catandfishfc 8 ай бұрын

More food for my lead Starmie team

@settrasurfs1780 8 ай бұрын

Vaporeon named Oh no

@cobrachicken1869 8 ай бұрын

Uhh... Yeah. When I see Vaporeon, I think of a primarily defensive Pokemon. Yup.

@LosFloresLunares 8 ай бұрын

You don’t want to know I primarily think about vaporeon mr cool

@codyfelts9531 8 ай бұрын

Vaporeons secret... the forbidden lingerie.

@cynamothcyclopsyt 8 ай бұрын

Vaporeon. This thing's been bad-mouthed on the internet like crazy, yet still eaks out a niche as a bulky water in a lower tier. Or here, an early gen higher tier.

@sudoornator3000 8 ай бұрын

Winning is about using your favorite Pokémon

@2im36 8 ай бұрын

bro went from 3k to 57k subs in one year, absolutely insane

@hot-headedloosewire6878 6 күн бұрын

So what's the best nature for a Vaporeon in gen 3?

@hairdeduction4337 8 ай бұрын

holy hell

@superpancake4872 8 ай бұрын

You probably think of Vaporeon as a primarily Vaporeon Vaporeon

@azeria1 8 ай бұрын

If only flareon could actually be good in anything like I don't think it's ever had a niche in uu or ou in almost any gen

@ThatGuyThai 8 ай бұрын

He can overheat baton pass...yeah there's not much I tried.

@tecul1 8 ай бұрын

zf used haunter. this is insane.

@VioletLunaChan 8 ай бұрын

Will Iron Fellow ever become a product too?

@SamaelDionysus 8 ай бұрын

I mean it 𝘪𝘴 just as strong as Jolteon, after all!

@pitchkinker 8 ай бұрын

Will the beauty of nature make iron mugulus less evil?

@user-AADZ 8 ай бұрын

Funny bulky water type

@hiei49 8 ай бұрын

Couldnt zapdos hp grass vaporeon instead of tbolting on turn 1? Assuming its not hp ice

@danriley3770 8 ай бұрын

Normally I would get an Iron Mugulus but I fear for my safety. (I don’t live in any of the countries with access to the merch)

@haloeightYT 8 ай бұрын

Why This is Insane

@DusBeforeDawn2008 8 ай бұрын

So you're saying its compatible in terms of the gen 3 metagame?

@ctfunk 8 ай бұрын

I too like Vaporeon

@RecycleYourStyrofoam 8 ай бұрын

As an HO player, I would like to give some advice to anyone looking to join the archetype: dont mess up

@RecycleYourStyrofoam 8 ай бұрын

The person who replied to this comment is not Jimothy Cool. It is a spam bot. Please do not click on the channel, just report for spam. Thanks

@RecycleYourStyrofoam 8 ай бұрын

UPDATE: We got him lads

@charlesf.9904 8 ай бұрын

The money got different, cause of what I’m spending.

@haipydragon5965 8 ай бұрын

You probably think of vaporeon as a primarily defensive Pokémon

@hanswurst9120 8 ай бұрын

Thank god Iron Mugulis hasn't come to Europe yet. I will celebrate safety alongside my fellow Europeans.

@Dankfort 8 ай бұрын

Hey guys did you know that in terms of

@midend 8 ай бұрын

any plans to ship the mug to sea?

@IDESTROYER236 8 ай бұрын

*DID YOU KNOW THAT IN TERMS OF...*

@pookiegaming75 8 ай бұрын

The comments on this vid are gonna be insane

@DkKobaADV 8 ай бұрын

so many unfunny references to a bad copypasta

@michaelmurphy1749 8 ай бұрын

this setup is incredibly weak to blue offense with a calm mind roar Suicune lead, pretty much falls apart even if they switch to Gengar immediately

@FaceD0wnDagon 8 ай бұрын

I was about to say, it probably has to do with passing 101 HP subs, and I was right! :D

@EnjoyGengar 8 ай бұрын

Vape nation

@AmberLB93 8 ай бұрын

Gen 3 OU has a modest power level and a low degree of overcentralization? Gen 3 OU is the polar opposite of Snorlaxused--I mean Gen 2 OU

@switchbro6622 8 ай бұрын

Phishhhh

@Ieozawa 8 ай бұрын

did you know?

@brimstoner982 8 ай бұрын

You probably think of Vaporeon as a primarily defensive pokemon

@hecorter3834 8 ай бұрын

"Hey guys, did you know that you probably think of Vaporeon as a primarily defensive Pokémon" *Looks at the special attack stat* yea about that..

@-_soy_-888 8 ай бұрын

Get ready This comment section is going to get very degen very quickly

@G1mpG1mp 8 ай бұрын

do u know in terms off.......

@Isol8__ 8 ай бұрын

Please don't 😭

@iamwilson6922 8 ай бұрын

Vaporeon being a primarily defensive Pokemon is the second thing that I think about it

@subtodicerat8305 8 ай бұрын

dont talk about that copypasta. vaporeon is better than that

@lulugaj5859 8 ай бұрын

you should have started the video with "did you know...?" for no reason

@calebcalhoun9847 8 ай бұрын

I primarily think of Vaporeon as a *Victim*

@nicocchi 8 ай бұрын

Hey guys did you know that in terms of having funny jokes made around it, Vaporeon has fkin none

@MelonSeedOfficial 8 ай бұрын

Hey guys, did you know that in terms of human Pokémon compatibility Vaporeon is Probably thought of as a primarily defensive Pokémon

@immagns 8 ай бұрын

That's cool but did you know that "Unfortunate" doesn't begin to describe my series, this game rewards blind luck and nothing else, I am beyond convinced at this point. After getting completely tooled by scheduling with my opponent changing times on me last minute and refusing to provide confirmation prior to the day of the match as to play times, losing this way somehow felt even worse than I had thought possible. My preparation was superior, my play was superior, and I lost, so I don't see a reason to continue engaging in an activity where what is within my control is overwhelmingly outweighed by what is not.

@aritra2116 8 ай бұрын

Hey guys, did you know that in terms of making the same repetitive joke, the Pokemon community is the most adept?

@vez3834 8 ай бұрын

This is insane

@Submissive-Soul 8 ай бұрын

BUH TAWN not bat on idk why people can't say baton pass and truant like TRUE AUNT its TRUE ANT ive heard people say it like TRAWNT lmao

@jimothycool 8 ай бұрын

That's vital

@Submissive-Soul 8 ай бұрын

@@jimothycool so is iron mugulis

@ShadowXeldron 8 ай бұрын

Truth be told, I don't actually think of Vaporeon as a defensive bulky water type... I think of it as an unfunny meme. I also associate it with Ice Beam; whatever you do don't do level caps in a FireRed Water monotype or you'll have to grind a Magikarp to level 20 to beat Misty and gamble it all on the slots for the Ice Beam TM in order to beat Erika. And don't get me started on the fact that Kabuto is only given out at level 5 in that game...

@meinthefuture789 8 ай бұрын

did you know in terms of...

@cadesummers5866 8 ай бұрын

People think that vaporeons best ability is water absorb but really it’s best one is the ability to bear human children

@joejones 8 ай бұрын

6:10 what is this lie? Every swampert is max spdef + max hp now way youre doing 75% on mixgross Mixgross cant kill blissey w/o booming. what are you gonna do about mence and dos? you need ice punch and you need boosting. AND you need the EQ. No mash? Yea right.

@jimothycool 8 ай бұрын

You're making things up.

@MattyHAM 8 ай бұрын

Hey guys, did you know that in terms of male human and female Pokémon breeding, Vaporeon is the most compatible Pokémon for humans? Not only are they in the field egg group, which is mostly comprised of mammals, Vaporeon are an average of 3”03’ tall and 63.9 pounds, this means they’re large enough to be able handle human d*cks, and with their impressive Base Stats for HP and access to Acid Armor, you can be rough with one.

@glassbead9339 8 ай бұрын

Hey guys, did you know that if you gave Carbink Prankster, it is possible for it to force out Iron Mugulis? Carbink typically runs two sets, Stealth Rock and Iron Defense, both of which benefit from Prankster.