Same here

Init

​@@beckyhale8240Because you both, like crybaby goldbridge, cannot admit you would walk on broken glass to stop City.... because if you listen to this moron every decision in favour of City is corrupt and every decision in favour of anyone else playing city is correct!.... The guy is pathetic!!! 😬

Me too. 😂

Yep me too.

Man city fills their pockets

Sky are protecting the cash cow that is the premier league

SKY won’t show a controversy

I know it sounds like an absolute conspiracy but it's the UAE paying it off isn't it. Plus the fact that London UK is basically a Muslim place now. Its not even, there could be bigger things out there

​@@thehoodieguy1341woahhh okay bro 😂 this is a new one

Totally agree. When you have a culture that leads refs to ignoring blatant on field mistakes because they don’t want to make their on field buddies look bad that culture is rotten. PGMOL are the problem not VAR.

yeah just get rid of the clear and obvious threshold

It’s the technology

@@TheIrishFoley wrong

@@grimaffiliations3671 right

Not sure how that changes anything. The fans in the ground are more aware of things sure, but how does it alter wether it’s right or wrong? Plus, NFL is already a much more stop/start. Do you want football to be like that

Can't be done with football

@@GIBBO4182 idk but maybe the refs then can‘t just say „no it‘s not a pen“ and bully the var people into not giving pens and stuff?

That doesn’t change anything Only the EPL uses non-automated technology , I wonder why

@Fmfcg Of course it can - they don’t want to sort it because they don’t want transparency

Even if it's not corrupt or biased, why on earth have the PGMOL got themselves into a position where this can even happen? They're already under scrutiny due to their complete incompetence when it comes to decisions being made, putting a rival fan on VAR duty would be questioned regardless of in game decisions, but now that we've seen that farce unfold it's either corruption or complete negligence. Needs a complete overhaul from top to bottom

Nah - suck it up, was that not what LFC were told, unfortunately while I agree with what you have said, you only shout when its your team, should have stuck with LFC who would still be 6 points clear at the top but for poor decisions by PGMOL.

hello without var forest still don't get a penalty???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

@@darinmany5397 that's not the point though. There is VAR. An actual human with emotions who has a horse in the race. And he got 3 blatant decisions wrong, which benefit the team he supports. Should never have been put on VAR duty in the first place

I'm hoping that more than one club join forces to uncover the obvious corruption throughout the game

agree It’s ruined those moments

Am i the only one who thinks Coventry actually benefitted from VAR? Wan bisaka's hand was by his side, wasn't a pen for me. And we're complaining about an offside that was rightly given?

​@@grimaffiliations3671 you're the only one

@@arolblkno he’s not, the only people against fair games is the football purists who don’t seem ato see anything wrong with an offside goal not being called offside and losing a whole trophy because of it

idc what they feel, i just want consistent correct and fair verdict no matter which team benefited from it. whether if its the ref or VAR. you can't have different result on same situation in two match.

Exactly! They say clear and obvious error, but when it’s half an inch on offside, now they can do whatever they want???

@@tnt_n1nja252 Who is going to decide how much offside you need to be to be offside? It becomes subjective again. You use VAR or you go back to the old days with the referee guessing and the linesman asleep.

@@glfirst4247 yeah, you can't claim something wasn't offside "enough" to reverse. A better move would be to get rid of the clear and obvious threshold all together. Put it to a vote in the VAR room, if 2 of em disagree with the ref, send him to the monitor. That way everyone gets more responsibility, VAR can't hide behind clear and obvious, and we get to learn what the ref actually thinks by sending him to the monitor

I get the reference!! 😂😂 I can’t remember who he said it about, but I do get it!

He said it about Michael Oliver, Anthony Taylor is bald.

Typical bald Manc

I thought you were talking about the boxer Anthony Taylor lol

A Wise Man once called him a disgrace

This is exactly why the likes of Goldbridge are so popular. Carra and Nev are friendly with players, managers and refs, so don’t say what we all fell because they know them. Independent creators like Goldbridge have no allegiances so can speak honestly.

⁠@@jamesleonard85I think it’s the broadcasters as well…you can’t criticise the PL too much, just in case the PL get mad, and sell the rights to a rival

@@GIBBO4182 you reckon the pundits are briefed about what they can and cannot say? Interesting. You’re probably right, might be afraid of legal repercussions. It brings their credibility to the mud if true.

⁠@@jamesleonard85it honestly wouldn’t surprise me

What do you EXPECT from SKY SPORTS ? 🐂💩🐂💩

best analogy

Great analogy

This also applies well to governments. Most specifically, the US and UK. Funny how that works. It's almost like they don't exist to serve the people that employ them and they certainly don't care.

Channelled my inner Goldbridge for that one lads😂

Too long baby

Manchester United fans protest all we get are behind closed door matches, also we get called entitled, so why bother 🙆😭

Fans should walk away and spend their money on their families.

You didnt protest when the PL was sold to the middle east and some Investment funds. But now you want to protest because of this minor thing?

Because people are just getting sick of the game and can't be bothered

because most fans know its much better with var with much less false decisions.

And Bissaka's handball was very questionable while Grealish's one was very blatant

Sheikh has deep pockets....man u are part of the corruption..😊

And he made the error worse by giving a goal kick not a corner in Grealish"s case.

Just look at the similarities between the wan bissaka handball and the Ashley young handball and you then see the corruption

So what's the solution then. Go back to the days of referees getting blatant things wrong. 😂

​@@DC-zi6se Nah we just have to clone a bunch of Pierluigi Collina's. No problem

@@DC-zi6se yes, VAR is there to stop mistakes but its making more mistakes not less.

@@DC-zi6seyeah

@@orwellboy1958 no it isn't. It's not putting enough bad on-field decisions right, and that is Howard Webb's fault.

How Carra is still a pundit is beyond me after his spitting incident

@@1TeMpLaR_KniGhT Not bothered about the spitting. Cantona kung fu kicked someone and still gets work. Am just bothered about the sh*te that comes out of his mouth when he's backing these officials with his mate Gaz.

How exactly is Sky “woke” and can you define the term?

It's what goes in their pockets that count 💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰

carra was spitting teeth when liverpool were denied a goal against Tottenham so him and neville need to pipe down

If VAR wasn't there, then the refs wouldn't be exposed for being how crap that they are

Will he speak about all the bad var decisions which went in his favour?

😂😂😂😂😂😂

@@funnyfuse3869name two.

​@@funnyfuse3869 there should be no bad VAR decisions, for or against, Einstein. People who love football are asking why VAR gets it wrong. The sheep are giggling.

He'd probably be too busy whining about how many games his pansy players have had to play recently the same as poncy Pep, up the Villa!

fr bruv

AKA, cheating is fine if it benefits my team. 🙄

can't be happy only when VAR benefit them.

My Nan is Finished

Wake up bro

Ur mom is finished

Everything is apparently finished 😂

@@kryptikknowledge1501 RIP

I think they made this decision because they knew the Wan Bissaka handball penalty decision was wrong - trying to make up for it? If so, they are completely controlling our games

I think the international breaks are good to keep players together throughout the year and to give some breaks

nah var is needed, they should scrap clear and obvious tho

@danpop1714 💯 They cover up BS by saying phrases like “not clear and obvious” etc etc

The offside rule I have said for ages should be a CLEAR space between the two players never mind this BULLSHIT about toes elbow ,knee ,shoulder ,LINESMAN eyesight like REFEREES not THAT GOOD🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓

This! The technology is good but the refs have used it to get more control and say on the game instead of using it to improve their decisions/mistakes.

Exactly. While it isn´t perfect in say the Bundesliga either, i didn´t see anything close to the awful decisions made in english football this season.

It's fine in the Bundesliga

I assume they can't say much because of the higher ups. They would probably lose their job if they pushed the issue. Even if I don't agree with it, I can understand it.

They're paid actors

They’ve been totally internalised by the power structure.

They are defending their fat payslip

Given the opportunity to comment on this Gary O’Neill knows who his paymasters are - cowardly

The fact you didn't like the decision or that it violated some perceived karma should not be a valid argument here.

It was a shame for Coventry, but the penalty wasn't a penalty and so Coventry had the chance to win it because of the penalty decision. We need consistency......Chelsea v Man City no penalty, Coventry v Man Utd penalty. If anything Grealish's was more of a penalty than the one Coventry got and Chelsea didn't. How can one be a penalty and the other not.

Me too celebrated the 'goal' love an underdog story and look what happened. Can't even share real emotion anymore you have to hold it in and then it's not quite the same feeling after that point.. completely destroying the point of football. Every other goal is disallowed.

I'm getting tired of all yall Coventry crybabies. They didn't do sht for 60 mins and needed a very lucky deflected 2nd goal and a questionable handball to even the playing field. United were sht after the 2 subs of Mainoo and Garnacho but Coventry bottled their pens

Your boys definitely gave mine a run man, damn what a bunch of fighters, my team always gives up when down 3

They should be fined a week's wages for every shocking decision they make, the same as the players.

@@andrewjack31 isn't that subjective tho? Some think the penalty call on wan bisaka was shocking

Happened to England football cos other countries don't have those issues, England ref and var are corrupt. They dictate the games now .

Agree. The frustrating thing is that in theory it’s such a good idea and works well in American sports.

@@seb1554 We need an independent panel to run VAR. VAR is looking after the mates because they don't want to make them look bad by over turning their wrong calls. Refs are too scared to make calls because of the possible protection. The whole thing is shambles

"VAR is the worst thing that happened to [English] football"

​@@kerwinellis1793 it's similar in nearly every league

Oh give it a rest, people laughed because Klopp asked for a replay, not because he said the decision was bad. Typical martyr mentality

@@bonjouritsready Klopp didn't ask for a replay. Some fans felt it was in order, since it was an unprecedented blunder, where they were robbed of a goal even VAR felt should stand. Tribalism caused people to say he moaned a lot, and he and fans should just get over it. Nice try, though.

@@ruslanvictorenko1536 smoke his a$$ bc clearly he’s too thick and doesn’t think before he speaks💯

​@@ruslanvictorenko1536he asked for the game to be replayed

Livarpool got a their only PL given to them by VAR. Did you forget that?

Same thing there is no Var without officials.

VAR are officials mate

Agreed. I think some of these officials are compromised, being black mailed by clubs

@@FredericFreedom it’s not big clubs pal it’s corrupt officials who either like certain teams or officials with connections to the Saudi pro league and are being groomed by the higher powers in the UAE 🇦🇪 look at the decisions against Liverpool this season sure they got lucky in the Forrest game but factor in Liverpool Chelsea first game Diaz header on goal blocked by hand no penalty Liverpool Spurs 2 red cards one for a stupid reason onside goal given offside Liverpool Arsenal Odeguard handballs it in box clear penalty not given Liverpool City Doku studs into chest of mcalister penalty not given… that’s title deciding decisions going against Liverpool and I support Madrid am just saying what I see in the English league and other top teams have had some bad ones too Arsenal Newcastle… The only team at the top who seem immune to these bad decisions are Man City the same team that win the league every year have 115 charges next to their name what about the year they won it by a point with the Rodri handball…. The Premier League is corrupt.

Definitely match fixing, I’ve known it for ages.

So who is the dictator in football?

Agreed...all this endless woke crap shoved down our throats before the game even starts. Absolutely sick of it all. And fair play to Forest for giving them the two fingers. We all know it’s corrupt.

Woke is now in sports! Shame on you shameless officials. Michael Oil Oiliver is no longer a top referee. He is a disgrace

@@ajc5479 money, same as everywhere else

​@@ajc5479There's only one pest! It's a cult with many capital letters.

You must be blind

​@@Fmfcg are you talking to the VAR team

@@Fmfcgperfect vision, VAR were desperate to rule that goal out, drew the lines and gave offside in about 45 seconds, so fast they didn’t even draw the line properly.

The curve of the line over the boot was ridiculous

I was laughing at that curve. Cov player was onside.

We do have the same discussions in Germany. I'd be surprised if they weren't the same everywhere. Main arguments are: - it disrupts the flow of the game and the flow of emotions (quite true) - it doesn't put away with grey areas and judgement calls (not the fault of VAR, but of the rules and the nature of the game) - shoddy implementation (sometimes VAR getting active, sometimes not)

@@TheHesseJames Personally I don't care about the flow of the game. Getting the correct decisions is far more important

@@adambrunt2870 Agree. People don't want to remember how bad things were before VAR with terrible calls every week.

@@adambrunt2870 Exactly. The issue isn't VAR, it's this whole stupid "clear and obvious" rule. VAR should be used to check everything and give the correct result, end of.

Nah the same problem is in all countries. You celebrate a goal and then 2 mins later it’s being ruled out. That’s just how VAR is

Exactly, imagine getting acused in court and you can't defend yourself That would be a broken system

Exactly this, you know for a fact his tone wouldnt be the same if he was still playing the game in the current state of play

@@ashtonndlovu9470 And yet that’s what everyone wants to happen to City

Its a corruption that could cost a club 200M easily if relegated... in what world can someone being corrupt cost you 200M and you're not supposed to even complain in a public forum?

Exactly. It's like saying there's no more steps to challenge the dictatorship 💀💀

Needs to be done by AI

VAR is a tool used by bookies to rig matches. Prove me wrong

VAR is just another level of mistakes.

@AussieGooner14 Get rid of Webb, Oliver and all the cronies and use AI

Unless it was utd who were always offside but they were given no wonder mark wants shot of var 😂

I watched after hearing about those pens and I agree with you all 3 I would have given. I'm also sick of the fine margins of the offside rule it's a joke

Mark is a reactive helmet just like supporters

It's gone that far that I can't be bothered with football anymore

and thats why its a broken rule. For example - if you had Peter Crouch attacking running in line with Kante the last defender - their bodies could be in line with each other but Crouchy stride would reach further forward than Kante because of the clear height difference and longer legs - thus deeming him offside when in reality he is actually in line with Kante. So the rule is biased in favor of shorter players - so its broken.

@@gladiatorscoops4907 good point

Exactly 👏🏻 they warned PGMOL of what could happen if VAR made questionable decisions. They didn’t say he was corrupt just that it would look dodgy either way ie favoured Everton or Forest.

Agree. We need VAR but the league doesnt want to accountability and do better so can you blame people not wanting it?

Yes Crap Refs + VAR = Bad decisions Crap Refs + No VAR = More Bad decisions

But we don’t get transparency.

Do you remember clearly? Are you sure? Because I remember that there had to be daylight for a player to be given offside, and the rules were interpreted sanely and in the spirit of the game.

"so many errors and influencing the results" So, just like VAR then.

He has said that himself

@@encinho that's good news 😅

haha! 🤣.. arsenal fan here and that wasn’t funny 💀 and everything he is saying is right and you just dont give a crap fair enough, watch your team get robbed next week also

115

And united are still finished​@@alette7

Both United fans and players knew there wasnt anything to celebrate. Not so mutch the offside but the complete sh*t show United put on. Like someone said, to bad a premier leauge team was knocked out by a premiership team.

And city would've won the UCL in 2019

​@@Fmfcgdelusional, they had a frightening liverpool side to face in the final.

​@@mcallistaircampbell8422frightening var handball decisions

@@Fmfcg City fan talking about dodgy VAR decisions 🤣🤣A comedian couldn't write it better!

@@Fmfcg doesn't take away the fact that liverpool in 2019 was more propabale to win the champions league over city. There is a reason they are the best English side in European competitions.

That probably is a crime if the plumber was a minority 😂

Mums life I’m crying 😭😭😭

What?

oh the tears~

Bet they dope the players to. Its a known fact that the Norwegian ski team all use asthma inhaler. Opens up the Airways making them able to go for longer.

Bindippers and conspiracies 😂

The missing bit of info is how they determine what it means to call the instant when a pass is initiated. Is that first contact by a boot, or the instant the ball leaves the boot? There are a few microseconds, and a few feet of distance, between those two events. And in those microseconds the line is moved as well. And as we have seen, that is enough to steal a perfectly good goal and lose a team points and ultimately a league title. We need to see two lines. One where they determine initiation. And then a second line drawn at that precise moment showing the defender and attacker's position. I suspect that its the initiation point that we don't see that enables them to manipulate a goal or an offside decision.

@@Hitstirrer The rule is when the first contact is made, not when the ball leaves the boot

*Crystal clear, and this is coming from someone who thought an FA cup match was in the Premier League😂

it wasn’t over the line mate

​@@marvooo3933 tight call. Shocking they couldn't find the right camera angle aligned with the post.

@@DC-zi6se surprised they don’t have the watch which can dictate whether the ball over the line or not

It didn't go in. Bein sports made the lines.

It was absolutely offside loads of people saw it in the replay

The really bad problems with refereeing and VAR have started this season mostly. I don't know what drugs the PGMOL has been taking, but prior to this season it was mostly okay (not great but still acceptable). Even though I think VAR should be scaled back regardless. VAR should just be the automated offside technology