If Squilf makes it, we throw the hugest fandom celebration anyone has ever seen. Edit: Oh yeah, she made it!

Also, Doestar trained Pinestar, who I believe trained Sunstar? Who trained Bluestar, who trained Firestar, who trained Bramblestar. It may not be a typical version of a dynasty, but I think it would technically count as far more than a dynasty than Squirrelflight taking over after Bramblestar decided he didn't want to be leader anymore, just because her father was a leader.

To expand on that 'rejected by Starclan' thing, it's 100% possible that Starclan will refuse to make Squilf leader because she raised Leafpool's kits. They already made a huge deal about it in her super edition. They literally try to send Leafpool to HELL for doing what she was told. it's likely they'll pull a reason out of their ass like "She broke the code so in good conscious we can't give you these nine lives"

At this point, I am genuinely hoping Squirrelflight snaps and pulls a Scourge. Just takes all Bramblestar’s lives at once. Tiny angry cat with a white paw killing a Tigerstar clone that they hate/has traumatized them, plus Scourge is her uncle. Then StarClan would have no choice but to giver her her lives, and we know they have no problem giving lives to cats when they killed the last leader. (They let Brokenstar be leader for crying out loud) That would be a fun parallel, and maybe reinstate just a tiny bit of my faith in the series. But we can only hope at this point .

The biggest reason I'm worried is because the writers themselves have said she would never become leader. She's going to die before she gets her lives, the question now is how.

these videos r the only things that keep me involved with warriors… i get so excited when u upload a long video i love ur stuff sm

They have already made the "nightheart is soooo similar to firestar" thing. I can see them making Nightheart a very young deputy to a deranged and traumatized leader they basically get to babysit to stop from making bad decisions. And then becoming leader. It would be a fun plot to revisit but I also hope it doesnt come at the cost of Squirrelflights life.

I hope they write her well, she deserves to be written good!!!

Squirrelstar life predictions Leafpool - Loyalty (they were v supportive of each other throughout their lives) Graystripe - Sacrifice (he died to Ashfur in her place) Hollyleaf - Integrity (or just doing what you think is right. I forget the word for it) Firestar - Leadership (important quality for being a leader) Dandelionkit - Motherhood (so she can nurture her clan) Juniperkit - Motherhood again Dustpelt - Power drill Shrewpaw - Clout

To be fair, Squilf has always been screwed over by the writers (and the fandom for that matter). I wouldn't be surprised if she never became an official leader for the same reason Ferncloud was killed off

If she dies I want Bramblestar to die too. Just let these characters rest writers, PLEASE. But if she dies then her coming back to life just feels so pointless and a waste of time. However if she becomes leader my bitter butt kinda hopes it doesn't last for six arcs. We need to start getting rid of these older characters instead of dragging them back into importance. Bramblestar and Squirrelflight feel like they've gotten this treatment the worst and it gets so draining. I just want to have a new cast of characters, not focus on their terrible relationship

Ok this is kinda off topic but still a bit on topic but something that bothers me is that people try to justify any mistreatment towards her with "She disobeys her leader and goes behind his back." and everytime I see that I just think "Ok? So did FireStar." He did the same thing for the same reason multiple times and that was always seen as something great about him. It was one of the big things about him. Why is it when Squilf does it, its so wrong and justifys her being treated terribly? Also this entire thing recemented her parallels with FireStar. Idc if he scolds her for disobeying BrambleStar screw that Arc 1 FireStar would have gone off on BrambleStar for alot of the shit he did and stood by Squilf til the end(SandStorm goes off on AshFur in the books, let FireStar scold his old apprentice)

hi moonkitti, i’ve watched your content for a long time. i am a fellow abuse victim and i was in a eerily similar situation as you. its sucks to see the writers do brambleclaw like this, as he was my favorite character. i hate bramblestar personally i wish he just didn’t become a leader or anything like that. i feel content with the way you explained the abuse i went through, an example is me playing a game he really hates behind his back, he then got extremely mad, went into my account and got rid of everything i had and then guilt tripped me and blamed me for his issues and for not supporting him. i was 15. he was 17. i was a kid with undiagnosed adhd and who didn’t like people with power. thank you for all your content about silly cat books :)

Okay so before I even watch the video : Knowing that there is catbloodthirsty dog around the way to the moonpool without any Thunderclan cat knowing about it ,I think Squilf is going to be killed by those f*ckers. Bramblestar would probably lose a few life (until he only have one left) I hope she won't die because I love her but knowing the team of writers we are absolutely not safe of her death. But if she was to get killed, I hope and pray to God that she won't become another horrible Starclan prophecy cat (I'm looking at you Yellowfang and Bluestar !)

You know a series is bad when the whole fandom is better at keeping track of the events than the authors

Squirrelflight wont die. If you tell yourself that she wont. Sandstorm will give her a life as her mother. We also need a talking video on Sandstorm Moonkitti!!!

Fellow abuse victim here. I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I also went through something a little similar and my abusive ex would tell me I'm the only one keeping them from offing themselves and/or harming themselves. They'd also use their bad home life as an excuse to guilt me into staying. That's just scratching the surface but you get it. Anyways reading Bramblestar's disgusting behavior always rubbed me the wrong way and now I know why lol. Squirrelflight has been the series' emotional punching bag for so long it would not surprise me in the slightest if she was just killed off. "A woman in a position of power over her partner? The horror! 🥺" /s I also would not be surprised if Bramblebutt got insecure about Squilf becoming the equivalent of the breadwinner and using that to abuse her further, which is something that is unfortunately very common in hetero relationships with real people :(

I feel like Shrewpaw would give her a life for like idk guidance or vitality

Imo they need to stop changing personalities period. I get that if they become leader they may be a bit more strict or power hungry, but some of these characters traits are just thrown in the dirt. I've been disappointed so many times while reading these books, I like when bad things happen. It's fun, I'd be too boring without it. But c'mon, cool things can happen without changing characters in every other book.

Squilf theories aside, I wanted to take time to appreciate the inclusion of your own experiences. I know how hard it can be to talk about these sorts of things, but I feel younger audiences will relate to and better understand what you’re saying by grounding it in a real life example. Abuse manifests in many different ways beyond physical, and I hope folks can learn that no one deserves to be treated like this. They may not be experiencing world ending consequences in the realm of cat politics, but they may experience something akin to your ex’s actions, and it’s important to know it’s not okay and that the behavior is abusive.

If squilf doesent become leader, firestar will somehow

I’m worried Starclan might just go by Nightstar logic and be like “uhhhh Bramblestar is still technically alive, so we can’t give you your nine lives go fuck yourself” which honestly I would not put it past the writers to try that again (even if it’s dumb)

I really hope they let her become leader. Book after book, Squirrelflight has done nothing but suffer. And we just had a whole plotline in which she couldn't rise to power- them doing it again would just be bad writing.

hi I wanted to make this comment but I’m bad at wording so here we go several years ago I was in an abusive relationship which ended in sexual assault. I had only been in one relationship prior, and I was rather young, so I didn’t realize it wasn’t okay. My parents didn’t realize either until it was too late. My situation is close to yours. I cried. I am upset that these very real, very serious issues are nonchalantly thrown into these books. thank you very much. i am happy that you’ve healed. your art makes me happy. thank you.

Squilf has always been super personal to me too cos of her shortness and relationship issues, etc. there were multiple times I had to pause the Bramble Is Worse video because explanations and cycles and what not brought be back to dark places with, much like you said, much much scarier men than Bramble even. Had me tearing up a lot pfff. She's the only character I've ever considered a "kin" because of how personally she hits me (though honestly idk if I use that the same way others do) I'm rooting for Squilfstar sm, even made that name my main on twt. I'm still confident as hell she'll become leader, I'm honestly more worried that they'll severely dumb down or under utilize her character as a leader after this arc- as in like, yeah, she'll be leader, but they just wont really focus on her or something, like they did with Mistystar. Imagine how insulting it would be for them to just start ignoring Thunderclan as soon as she becomes leader. It feels like something they'd do though I wouldnt be shocked if she does die, but i truly feel like she will survive and make it to leadership, i really really really feel like her becoming leader is going to also be a "thing" to Nightheart, I think his grandmother also being in firestars position is going to pressure him further, its gonna become a plotpoint. I see more they can do with the plot by making her leader and way way way less they could do if they killed her off Also!! Warrior Cats love to allude to things, and I think Nightheart pointing out how much of a leader Squilf looks at the gathering before even being one was a clear sign too

knowing how little main characters we have left, she’ll probably live

Fucking "CAN YOU CONNECT ME TO JESSY WARRIORCATS??" just floored me, oh my God

I think the last arc I got to was omen of the stars... you're telling me Squirrelflight is STILL alive??? It's funny how the cats' lifespans seem to be so directly related to their importance lol

Don’t worry guys I will stop her from dying.

I want squirrelstar so bad, but it as you said, seems too good to be true, and I'm scared the writers are going to throw squilf again and this time she doesnt live. Anywho!!! excited to see your content more and i adore the talks you do keep it up!!

Man. I do not want to be around the one time Squirrelflight breaks the warrior code and it's actually a bad thing. People already act like she's evil just because she's snippy. Imagine her *gasp* making a real mistake

While I do wanna believe that she will live, I do believe that the Erins will simply fuck it up by killing her. Right now, we can simply just hope.

If youre wondering, this is all of the leader "dynasties" so far in WC are in terms of Genetic Relations: Skystar/Gray Wing - Thunderstar - Owlstar (they are adopted brothers im counting it Lightningtail died b4 becoming leader) Cloudstar???-Oakstar - Pinestar - Tigerstar I - Bramblestar - Tigerstar II Bluestar/Crookedstar - Mistystar - Reedtail (had he lived. also Oakheart, Stonefur, and Whitestorm were deps) Raggedstar - Brokenstar - Rowanstar- Tigerstar II (Raggedstar is Rowanclaws uncle apparently) Firestar - Squirrelstar if she isnt die.. Windclan literally has 0 leader dynasties just deputy ones in Ashfoot/Deadfoot - Crowfeather but not really lol Same with Skyclan :P Thats all i could really find, if im missing cats let me know!

Squirlf is genuinely such a good idea for lead?? Like we CONSTANTLY see her keeping peace VERY easily. Literally firestar Jr. and we love that for her

Moonkitti is truly Squirrelflight's strongest solider! ^w^

Personally, I think Squirlf will become leader, but she won't last long. I see two possibilities: (1) Due to some weird situation with StarClan, Squirlf will receive very few lives - maybe only one. She will die by the end of the series. (2) For whatever reason, she will really struggle with leadership. Maybe her clan still won't respect her, maybe she "can't handle" the horrors of war, or whatever. She will retire by the end of the series, and join the elder's den alongside Brambleclaw.

squirrelflight is still fucking alive??? yooo i havent read the books in a few years i lowkey thought she was gon be dead by now

Jayfeather is the only cat that can be a fan favorite and still survive for a very long time.(if Sparkstar,Lionstar,or Ivystar happens im completely stopping reading the books.)

Here after reading Thunder!!!!

If Squirrelflight actually become Squirrelstar I will buy the next warrior cats book and read it, something that a good portion of the fandom has not done for a while now

I hear Ivypool and Lionblaze as frequent suggestions as alternate future leaders, but I wonder... what about Cinderheart? She starts off as a young cat whose paralysis crushed both her legs and her dreams, and on top of that suffered a young and painful death from a badger attack. Then she's given a second chance at life, and nearly meets the same fate again, but she perseveres and finally lives up to her true potential, given the ultimate reward of the nobility of leadership. There's some interesting metaphors behind it too. After all, the previous leaders were Firestar and Bramblestar. When a bonfire burns in the forest, the *fire* inevitably dies and the *brambles* that fueled it are permanently damaged. But what remains in their place? The cinders of the fire, able to refuel the bonfire and let it shine brightly in the forest once more.

I'm worried that the sacrifice omen at the end of Shadow dosen't mean Bramblestar needs to give up his position. I have a bad feeling Squilf is going to die, and Bramblestar's sacrifice is going to be having to lead despite his condition and losing his mate and deputy. I hope I'm wrong. Squilf is my favourite. If StarClan fucking REJECTS her I'll riot. I'd rather she was killed honestly. Stop torturing her. Or just give us Squirrelstar. edit- wrote this comment before finishing the video. Moonkitti agreeing with me is validating my fears and now I'm scared

OMG I'm halfway through THUNDER and I have feelings

I stopped reading at River, then heard "Squirrelflight leader" and thought "did i stop reading as they got good? Did i do that?" So given that my only other source for Warriors news is Tumblr, it's nice that you're making videos about the recent stuff because I really don't want to read the books anymore. Partially because I'm just tired of them being disappointing ("come on, they've got to get good now- nope. How about now- nope") but also because of how much the Bramblestar thing hits much closer to home now than it did then and i just don't want to read that.

We better get squirrelstar, and not someone else who would just be cliche (another firestar clone, ect)

The Erin's love for Firestar will ensure Squirrelstar. They want to keep his legacy going on, soo unless they appoint his grandson lionblaze(please no) or his great grand niece ivypool, who'll take the crown.

All I want is for things to make sense in these books. Like I just want StarClan to actually be consistent in their powers, values and motives, and I want the authors to STOP turning characters into completely different people in every arc. Consistence is really important to me and it makes the story better because it makes it more believable.

I don't think the Erins will kill Squirrelflight, I think they will use her to showcase the new changes to the warrior code where a leader can be forced out of leadership if the clan agrees that they are incapable of preforming the job well, which seems incredibly likely to me because every time Squirrelflight assumes leadership, despite seemingly doing the job better than Bramblestar, Thunderclan continuously disrespects her, saying things like she isn't actually the leader because of this or that, stuff they seem to already be implying before Bramblestar has even given up his title.

Personally I expect Starclan to deny her. I don’t really expect her to die after Squirrelflight’s hope and her choice to live being such a huge plot point but I think Starclan will refuse her

Im watching from five miles away with a pair of binoculars, waiting for the impending doom

Im going to break the fourth wall and try to save Squirrelflight

I’d love for squirrelstar to become real, I am a huge fan of squilf and want her to see her happy and as leader. But knowing the Erin’s it’s doubtful it’ll happen, yet I still hold out hope. If she doesn’t become leader I hope the fandom riot is massive- especially since tigerheart became leader despite DYING… so like why can’t squilf??? However, there’s always your points at the end of the video, which does give me some hope.

considering Bramblestar mentioned losing his last life, I think what might happen is that he's going to sacrifice himself so that Squirrelflight can become leader

I think the last book cut off where it did because they're going to find Frostpaw along the way to the Moonpool; the blurb for one of the future books makes me think that ThunderClan finds her and not WindClan. At worst Squirrelflight's ceremony would be delayed to take care of Frostpaw, but I hope she'll ultimately become leader afterwards.

I really hope that even if she dies, she gets a realization she was mistreated by Bramble. Like she speaks about wanting be leader, feeling she could do a better job, and Bramble tells her she’d have to kill him to get her lives which ends up being Squilf’s breaking point for their relationship. Going through some kind of finding herself lone journey to find out that she’s a person outside of Bramble and deputy would be great even if she dies on her way to her lives.

edit: On my actual thoughts on this in regards to the plot (sorry about the tangent) I am 100% convinced the series will pull a "Oh, but Bramblestar was the true leader all along, he just needed to believe in himself!", whether in this book, or the series ends with that. This is a terrible idea. No one wants this. It goes against the lore we have. But the writing team never cared about that, they will use this as an excuse to further Bramble's story over her own, because they have done this already multiple times in the past, and with other female characters. I do personally like the cycle of abuse as a concept, because it really IS often the case that abusers will try to "change" their behaviors and try to make things calm and happy to keep this relationship. It's a control move in of itself (see: lovebombing), and never lasts. That's the kicker here; an abusive person has patterns of behavior that, unless they actively address and work on it, means they will ALWAYS come back to it, and thus the relationship will always be abusive. I do agree this doesn't apply to all abuse stories, but the fact people are using this term to belittle abuse victims, and say they're overreacting or what they're going through isn't real, CLEARLY don't know what they're talking about or what abuse is. Even if there's a "calm" in cycle, if it always comes down to those same abusive patterns, same hurt, then it is abusive. Honestly it helps me make sense of my own story as a victim of abuse, but I totally get why people are phasing out of it or why they may not feel it is fully accurate.

I’d love to hear who you want in Starclan to give Squirrelflight her nine lives! I’ve also been thinking about that.

I'm so scared because Squilf is my favourite warrior cats character and i will definitely cry if she dies. Ngl i'm already in a crying situation to know this. I want her to be the leader so hard and if Erins kill her or something, i will be so done with these books. It is so stressful to all Squilf lovers. I don't actually like the newer characters tbh and if something like this happens (i wish it doesn't) i will always remember the old memories of squilf and we all will make many animations/MAPs. But if something like that doesn't happens, we will still do that for the celebration and i will still cry in happiness! But- i hope so... Edit: 13:27 Oh god. I can't believe something like that happened. It's so bad and traumatizing to hear about. You been through so much. But remember one thing, Moon, we love you, we all do love you.

*me if Squirrel flight dies* I'M GOING THROUGH a A MID-LIFE-CRISTIS!!!

Heyy, could you make a video talking about falling feather and jackdaws cry? I feel like they're one of the most underrated characters in warrior cats. They deserve some attention since their story is really tragic and has alot to it, i think it'd make a great talking video!

If squirrelflight dies as a fandom, we’re marching towards all the Erin’s, circling them like birds, and devouring their souls

Honestly it’s kind of sad how the series kinda just went downhill after the new team took over. I really loved warrior cats but after all these problems that either already existed and they just amplified it or they created new ones, I don’t even know anymore, I don’t really bother to read the new books now because I know it will just make me more upset about what the new team is doing. It kind of sucks but warrior cats will still be a part of me, I love warrior cats but the new team is just upsetting.

Yk it’s a good day when Moonkitti posts.

Squilf is my favourite character i’m gonna be heart broken if anything happens too her 😭

In terms of who would give Squilf her lives, I'd say Firestar, Sandstorm, Hollyleaf, Leafpool, dandelionkit or juniper kit (probably not both), maybe Feathertail, maybe her mentor Dustpelt and/or Graystripe, not sure about the rest. Larksong or Flickerkit maybe? I think it'd be really cute if shrewpaw gave her a life as well.

I also don’t think she won’t make it because Splashtail’s actions are leaning towards violence, and Berryheart will get exiled for treason, according to the next book’s description. I think either of them will kill her, or worse, they might team up.

8:14 ocelot sighting (hearing?)

Screw it, I want every single leader to die / step down in this arc. Give us Hawkstar, Squirrelstar, Cloverstar and Crowstar. Hell, make Splashtail leader to spice things up.

if squilf dies, warriors is over also i stg she better live if she "dies", if tigerheartstar can do it, so can squilf

I’m going to throw a massive hissy fit if bramblestar outlives squirrelflight

See, I don't want Squirrelstar... but I don't want dead Squirrelflight either...

All hail Squirrelstar!

I know I'm a little late to commenting (eh four hours isn't THAT late), but the "prophecy" Leafpool gave that Bramblestar must make a sacrifice... it might mean he'll have to decide between saving Squirrelflight and him dying and letting Squirrelflight die so he can remain alive.

homestly i feel like even if she dies they’re ( the writers ) gonna continue to bully her.

I love moonkitti's new approach to the new Warriors. Preparing for possible misery with misery, just as our lady and saviour MJ preached ❤

Hey Moonkitti, I’m sorry you had to go through that. You didn’t deserve it, no one does. We’re all glad you’re okay now. Keep thriving! 💕

I know you said that you're fine now, but I really do want to express my empathy and apologies for the toxic relationships you've been a part of, Moon. It makes a lot more sense as to why you despise Bramble's and Squilf's relationship so much. I definitely admire you for having the courage to come out and talk about your own experiences. It's things like this that make you an even more honorable creator in my eyes.

Moonkitti I love your videos so much like I get so excited for every one

can you make a video about how sunbeam has changed as a character?? i feel like she _already_ is completely different because of nightheart... like she doesnt think of anything else anymore. i thought that initially, when he left her behind in shadowclan, she would build up some sort of resentment towards him-- like she has a line where shes like "my mother was right all along..." AND THEN SHE _GOES TO THUNDERCLAN_ TO TAKE HIM BACK??? HUH?? WHERED THAT COME FROM??? especially since her line of thought was "well whorlpelt is right wing and flaxfoot keeps mansplaining stuff to me, so i guess i have no choice." ITS DEPRESSING?

yay!! new video!! :D also I might spent some of my birthday money to become a patron!! I've wanted to support you for a long time but just haven't had the money :((

The objectively unhealthy romances in the series plus all the forbidden romance plots is what made me stop reading some months ago. I wish the new authors would stop making plot decisions that everyone hates and move the conflict out of ThunderClan for once. We could have a massive blackmail scandal, some rogue/kittypet relation plot points (that actually force the Clans to confront their discriminatory tendencies instead of routinely utilizing the ‘you’re one of the good ones but only because your existence benefits us’ trope as a crutch) I don’t want to be hyper-critical, but there has to be either a storied lack of self-awareness or some intentionality behind these continued controversial decisions. The implications of sexism, the blatant ableism, and the justification of colonization, and other assorted things speak for themselves. I honestly don’t see how these things continue to happen.

Honestly if Squirrelflight dies I'm done. I get that there are new characters coming and they need focus, but there's no reason she can't be leader and just be in the background, doing amazing leader things and then dying. IF she dies, both her and Bramble better die, but if he lives and just suddenly shapes up and returns to being leader I will be livid, but honestly even if they both die I just might be done. Sqilf doesn't deserve this. The writers know she doesn't and if they want to be that blatantly contrary against their fans then they can deal with said fans no longer supporting them.

Ty for talking about the myth of “mutual abuse” I think it’s really important.

I love the old man voice you give Bramble 😂 was near the end of the vid a lil on edge abt Squilf dying and I couldn't help but get this big goofy smile on my face❤

I didn't know Dovewing was your favourite, Moon! I truly thought it was Squilf

If she dies, I die with her.

0:21 i like how Firestar looks like a cheeto puff and Squirrelflight looks like a hot cheeto 😂

As someone who gets really attached to specific characters and has been waiting over 2 years to find out if that character will be okay or not (as well as a theory I have had regarding that character for /5/ years) I understand how difficult it is to stew on this. I applaud you for being able to except the worst case scenario though because I feel if I could do that I'd feel a lot more at peace. Personally I feel Squilf will be okay, but I also haven't read Warriors under the new team, so I understand your concerns.

If Squilf dies... I will sue Ein hunters, I dont care what they say I NEED Squirrlestar now, I need her to pick Ivypool as deputy and the two of them become immortal, deal with it.

the tiger/fire dynasty is inevitable. I strongly believe every thunder leader we see in the next ten years will be of that lineage, and only related deputies will be the ones who get promoted. But I'd love to be proven wrong

I’m sorry that you had to go through what you did, Moon, but I want you to know that we stand by you no matter what happens! Thank you for making my day every day and I will stand by your side, even though I’m just a comment 😅

I hope Sandstorm gets to give a life

I am terrified, this is inevitable to be what happens.. and I absolutely hate that I have to worry about this so much.

I am honestly here for Squilf becoming leader and going "now it's my turn bitches" and taking noone's shit! That being said, this could mean she'd probably not listen to advice and therefore not see the whole story. It would make her decisions reasonable and in character while still being not so good ones.

Imagine if tigerstar 2.0 goes and kidnaps the two cats and might even kill bramblestar to get more or all of thunderclan territory

haha take that moonkitti! throws up from stress like a weary chihuahua

I'm honestly sick of the newer books. The Warrior Cats serious has always had flaws, with characters I don't always agree with, but that made them interesting. What's frustrating about the newer books is they've strayed almost completely from what made the original arc good. I barely finished the fourth arc before dropping the series completely, and I was *obsessed* as a kid. This whole thing just sucks, and I wholeheartedly blame the writers. Warrior Cats should never have been a group project.

Squirrel'flight: i will become leader... Right? The Erins:.. Uh... Maybe...

I won't be able to get over it if she dies, that time she almost died on Power of Three due to her very bad wound I cried so hard, I've never cried like that for a character before. She needs to make it! I won't be able to go on without her 😭

Waited for this rationalization fr