Vatrer 12V 200Ah Plus LiFePO4 Battery Review and Teardown, Almost Perfect!

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Today we'll be testing out the 12V 200Ah LiFePO4 battery from Vatrar. This is the "plus" version of the 200Ah battery meaning it's built to withstand 200A continuous charge and discharge.
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00:00 Introduction
00:22 Battery Features
01:33 Capacity Testing
02:03 Disassembly
06:05 SmarTEC BMS
06:53 Low-Temp Protection
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@LithiumSolar Жыл бұрын

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@AndyMcBlane Жыл бұрын

Great video as always, keen to hear what the manufacturer says!

@Vatrer Жыл бұрын

Our battery definitely has low temperature protection function. We just updated the internal structure. We will only update the battery without reducing functionality. Our 200ah battery has three temperature sensors, you need to put the three temperature sensors together in ice water at the same time, it will detect it, and then it will stop charging the battery.

@AndyMcBlane Жыл бұрын

@@Vatrer If the temperature sensor was disconnected I would like to think the BMS would throw an error / refuse to switch the FETs

@tsp2jxd Жыл бұрын

@Power Vatrer - is that how low temp sensors are supposed to work? If the one lead senses low temp, that should be enough to turn off the BMS. Epic fail.

@AndyMcBlane Жыл бұрын

@@Vatrer I guess we will wait for Mike to test and get back. I just can’t see a genuine failure case where it (low temp cut off) worked at the factory, but doesn’t work on Mike’s desk if the unit was properly designed and tested.

@jacintobernal7954 Жыл бұрын

Hello, thanks for your great information. I bought 2 of 200ah and one stopped charging after 9 months and despite doing everything that Vatrer asked me, it did not comply with its 5-year guarantee and only told me to buy a new one Vatrer is not a responsible company, so if you buy, you know, don't get scammed. In the end, I lost more than $600 because it seemed like a good company, until this happens to you and you realize that it is not. Blessings

@wideawaketotruth5301 Жыл бұрын

Extremely well done video. I especially like your intricate evaluation of this battery. Thank you

@BradCagle Жыл бұрын

Nice review! Blows my mind all these batteries, most still do not include simple low temp protection. Especially with all the videos we all do, you would think they would catch on by now :)

@Roll2Videos Жыл бұрын

Great video 👍 glad to see your reviewing batteries again 🍻

@jasonbroom7147 Жыл бұрын

Great to see another video from you. Always enjoy your content. Bummer on that battery not having low-temp charging protection because it looks like a very good product, otherwise.

@stuartstuart866 Жыл бұрын

I saw that video with Will Prowse, he really hammered the Vatrer. If the manufacturer ever watched his videos, they would have known this ahead of time and built the battery accordingly. Imagine the damage they have to overcome now, with that bad publicity. Personally i’m impressed by the updated build quality and intend to replace my AGM RV battery with it in the future.

@user-zo6xg8bx4l Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review. This is important and it sucks that the manufacture can't seem to get it right.

@derekleclair8787 Жыл бұрын

Another great review thank you!

@michaelhesse9981 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for a great review!

@AveRage_Joe Жыл бұрын

Great Review! 1 other thing I saw in video was the nylon nuts. Looked like every post with a balance lead and main positive/negative lead wasn't even touching the nylon which explains why it was so tight. Did you happen to check the others? A good rule to follow for nuts is to have a least 1-1/2 threads showing on top of ANY nut.🤘

@Scott-ig1zd Жыл бұрын

@terrytexas8257 Жыл бұрын

Good Review Mike!

@Mike.Caimbeul Жыл бұрын

Another excellent review, many thanks.

@DavidPozEnergy Жыл бұрын

I like the large busbars they used between cells, and the capacity test. Thanks for the review.

@christomalan6773 Жыл бұрын

Hi david. Why is your channel so quiet?

@Lawiah0 Жыл бұрын

@@christomalan6773 Because he is here doing research; now stop brown-nosing, kk thx Hey David.

@patrickrodgers7864 Ай бұрын

Thank you thank you thank you for that assessment I bought the 300 amp hour battery just recently!!!

@excillisbank2611 Жыл бұрын

Merci pour cette démonstration👍

@bill2292 Жыл бұрын

Good review! How about a review of the new EG4 v2 next?

@jamest.5001 Жыл бұрын

The companies that use their profit to improve the product, while sill being a low cost, fair quality product, is a company I can get behind,. Continue to buy from, and recommend !

@thachnnguyen Жыл бұрын

Thanks to people like you the manufacturers will try to be honest.

@Vatrer Жыл бұрын

The battery was sent to Mike for testing by ourselves. If there is no low temperature protection function, we will not test it for him, and then let you complain about our false propaganda.

@tsp2jxd Жыл бұрын

@@Vatrer you make people think you are an angry, frustrated company. You should try to be nice to people that want to buy your battery. Instead, you are nasty, condescending, and rude. I will stick with ANY other battery manufacturer before buying from Vatrer. I don't even like saying Vatrer. It's annoying!!!

@Vatrer Жыл бұрын

@@tsp2jxd Please watch our test video, it's Mike who didn't use the right method, you can't just slander us. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qrZpddeZmJ2ngo0.html

@Asiastanley Жыл бұрын

Great review. Please check bms low and high voltage cut, lot of them don't work as spec.

@stevemacdonald3522 Жыл бұрын

Will you please check out a new brand battery from O'Cell Tech Lithium. Its a 36v 100AH meant for golf carts. The question is about whether its a lithium battery or LiFiP04. There is a vent on the side of the case to "vent gasses" as stated in the video on the battery. Thank you for your effort in educating us about these batteries.

@TimShelnut Жыл бұрын

That thing is built solid!

@christomalan6773 Жыл бұрын

Nice review.

@racingtogreen2023 Жыл бұрын

low temp cutoff. Nice, if it works. I have two of the powerqueen 200ah look alikes, but no low temp cutoff. Had to be careful and put in a transfer switch and an extension cord feed to either my tool shed's battery, or the house, to keep the mini-split keeping the temp above freezing. I have not been able to get the low temp cutoff to work on the Epever AN series 80amp charge controller using basically the same test.

@explorenaked Жыл бұрын

Great review. One thing I saw that could be an issue. The nylon lock nut you referred to from the BMS to the negative post was not fully engaged into the nylon which makes it no better than a standard nut with no lock washer. That's why they torqued it down so much that it dug into the ring terminal. In a rough environment, like an RV, it would eventually come loose.

@cmthumboldt6896 Жыл бұрын

I noticed the very same thing. Sharp eyes!

@RolandOfGileadOnYT Жыл бұрын

It has some Loctite on it.

@StansE250 Жыл бұрын

Even if it has Loctite (not an ideal application, as it introduces Resistance), it could have been EASILY rectified with a low profile Nylok nut 🤷🏻‍♂️

@andrewhansen4179 Жыл бұрын

Yes, they should have used low profile lock nuts like in the aircraft industry OR extended the threaded post a bit.

@devadroid5269 Жыл бұрын

@3:34 It doesn't look like the bolt/screw is long enough for the nylon "thread lock" to be engaged properly! (On the negative battery lug bolt.) Or am I seeing that wrong?

@chuxxsss Жыл бұрын

Nylock nuts are amazing for that design. BMS looks like a JKBMS model to me.

@stewartmhyre1528 Жыл бұрын

Awesome review. Will be interesting to see how the company responds to your review

@Vatrer Жыл бұрын

@davidsolberg9464 Ай бұрын

@Vatrer this is good to know. I just purchased a 12 volt 100ah battery for my boat. Looking forward to getting everything set up and functioning.

@davidparker7156 Жыл бұрын

great job

@timaz1066 Жыл бұрын

Nice job

@myhificloud Жыл бұрын

The compressed air test produced a definitive result. It's very nice to see it employed in your tests. Also, thank you very much for this and all your reviews. With a few design revisions, this product looks to be a great option, especially for those looking to integrate combined starting capacity for larger RV diesel power units (eg. parallel a bank of 2-4 200Amp batteries (260 amp BMS +peak for 3-5 seconds) to a Victron lynx distribution block.

@jar407 Жыл бұрын

diesel trucks pull a lot of amps i doubt if theses batteries would last very long . there is one i saw made to do both in a car which can pull 400amps easily plus you need a dc to dc charger and you cannot charge unde 32 F OR 0C remember class 6 to 8 often have 2 # 31 1000 cca or size 3 to 7

@rockpadstudios Жыл бұрын

I like the construction also.

@jamest.5001 Жыл бұрын

Hopefully they will fix the BMS deal, yeah low temp cutoff isn't a deal breaker for me either, I keep my stuff inside, and it doesn't get that cold in NC for long anyway, I would still rather get raw cells, I need about 400-600ah 12v bank, and eventually about 2000ah 24v, or 1200ah 48v bank, if I go to 48v, (I really need to do so badly, the number of charge controllers is crazy, and I need more, 2x more, with 2x the pv) It will be a while before my 24v bank needs replaced, 1000ah+ liion, I'm just nervous having all that LI- NMC in the house, if I could replace it with LiFePo about 1000ah I'd take the loss, until I could add more, I will probably buy a few cells per month, or maybe save the money and buy at once , after I find a good reasonable supplier, I'd like to get the BYD BLADE cells, in about a year or so, but these batteries are almost tempting, for the 12v bank anyway!

@brentmodzelewski1689 Жыл бұрын

Try putting all temp sensors in ice water, it might average them to make decision. It may also use the temperature plus the charge rate to determine if batteries are safe to charge. It could be more complex than you think

@Vatrer Жыл бұрын

Yes, you are right, the 200ah battery is not 100ah, 200ah is more complex, as you will understand after watching our video. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qrZpddeZmJ2ngo0.html

@kevinwion8552 Жыл бұрын

Cold temp? I can get over it in a hurry. I am sold! But I am preparing to buy one...how do I know if it's the newer (upgrade inside the case) vs older one? Is there a serial number designator or date stamp or ?? to make sure I'm getting the new design?

@coreybabcock2023 Жыл бұрын

Can I use my inverter charger in lithium profile and connect directly to the cells bypass the BMS ?

@davidpatrick1813 Жыл бұрын

Have you considered testing the Weise 100Ah? I am not able to do such testing as you do. The company says it has low temp protection (Will showed it did) and a 10 Yr. warranty. However the paperwork says 5 years. They assured me 10. I suggested they be more descriptive and fix the paper work. The paper with the battery doesn't say low temp protection...

@bobcole3852 Жыл бұрын

Great job, agree, nice unit but no low temp cutoff is deal breaker for me

@Vatrer Жыл бұрын

Our battery has it, it's just that Mike's test method is wrong. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qrZpddeZmJ2ngo0.html

@tumbleweed1976 Жыл бұрын

Nice!

@jttribe7683 Жыл бұрын

Do you know the parameters that should be set for a victron charge controller for this battery 200ah battery?

@timmyers3428 Жыл бұрын

Has anyone done a teardown and test on an Enduro battery, I am curious how they are 25% smaller in size than other similar batteries.

@tooldiebum Жыл бұрын

In your opinion what’s the best home back up battery let’s say one day with the 220v appliances changed with solar

@steves3688 Жыл бұрын

I think you might have an older battery. The battery model number on your case has a K at the end and any listing Im seeing isnt showing a K in the model number ...so Im also assuming they are listing their newest battery models....could that be the issue?

@endostyle Жыл бұрын

Great video thank you! I was wondering if you think this could handle a boat AC unit. I currently use a 3000 watt generator and only kick it on for about 15min at a time every hour over night.

@massa-blasta Жыл бұрын

are you using some kind of timer?

@endostyle Жыл бұрын

@@massa-blasta no it has a thermostat. But I would like to use a timer, and could if I could set up with this.

@dickdyson3100 Жыл бұрын

I would buy the 100ah one anyways. More options on voltage when buying 4, 100 Amp BMS is common. 200amp is really scary 😳 for BMS.

@tracyoliver550 Жыл бұрын

Seems to be a huge disparity in build quality between this battery and the 100 amp hr in other reviews. Anyone know which to expect with their 300amp hr model?

@AlWiedmannJr Жыл бұрын

does anyone know what the exact float and absorption charge settings on MPPT controller should be for this battery? And should they be the same?

@SoundzAlive1 Жыл бұрын

Maybe you can adjust temp cut off in Software? They are using you as a tester. Not available here in Australia. André in Sydney

@LithiumSolar Жыл бұрын

They don't allow changing of settings in the app - and that's a good thing honestly. No reason to tinker with settings that could create unsafe operating conditions.

@SuperVstech Жыл бұрын

Also note, the bms you printed out is fully populated with fetts, the one in this battery is missing several fetts, so I doubt it could handle 200A discharge for long.

@LithiumSolar Жыл бұрын

That is a VERY good point. I wonder if this is actually rated for 200A even though the part number indicates 260A because of those missing FETs.

@MrRich1068 Жыл бұрын

A good one with serviceable cells

@craigdillman2464 Жыл бұрын

I puchased 2 of the Vatrer 200AH Plus batteries 3 months ago. I contacted their customer service today about purchasing additional Vatrer 200AH Plus batteries to add into parallel configuration and they informed me that their current version of this battery is not compatible in parallel or series with the ones that I just purchased from them. Seriously?

@markwitkop7022 Жыл бұрын

Is that feature adjustable in the BMS? Is it posible that it has not been enabled?

@LithiumSolar Жыл бұрын

Not adjustable by the consumer, but yes - it is set/configured by the manufacturer and is possible it's not enabled.

@vanmasterflash7153 Жыл бұрын

Free battery. nice

@helenabha Ай бұрын

There is a 300ah model. It would be nice to evaluate it when there is a chance. Thank You

@mikebroom1866 Жыл бұрын

The locking function of that nut was not engaged. Needed a longer stud.

@vwtoys Жыл бұрын

Yup, first thing I noticed. Need to hire a proper ME.

@StansE250 Жыл бұрын

Or … lower profile Nylok …. Plenty on market, to Not need one so … Tall.

@johnshaw359 Жыл бұрын

We used nylon locking nuts on our skateboards running gear, they likely still do.

@jamesherron9969 Жыл бұрын

The Chans 300 amp hour battery is the same price and has high and low temperature charging protection and is just as well built plus another hundred amp hours

@luctessier2215 Жыл бұрын

If you but one of these batteries & it does not have a bms w/bluetooth, how can we monitor soc? Asking for a friend!

@LithiumSolar Жыл бұрын

This battery does not have bluetooth. There is no way to monitor state of charge without an external device, such as a Victron Smart Shunt.

@docbooth8834 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video. Get a breath. I am not a fan of aluminum conductors be they buss bars, cables or straps. With the capacity at 200 amps there is going to be sufficient heat to warm those bars up and expand. Where is the goop, grease, etc. for the connections. With the aluminum conductors swelling and shrinking unless they are chromed there is a problem. Still with chrome there should be a fine layer of goose grease preferably Ronny Red grease. The ny-lock nut is good except for the "one use scenario". We all reuse them but that does not make it right. I never have trusted "one shot parts", even on the first shot. Still, better than a smooth nut or a kick there. I love these lithium cells. After 45 years of babying lead acid banks large enough to run a regular house for weeks or one 125 VDC motor for 72 hours or until it went up in flames, I see lithium batteries as amazing. Still, this battery is a "PLUS" and is rated at 207 AH. 202 AH is just another scratch in the finish. Thanks for the education.

@aspendell209 Жыл бұрын

The company also claims a 100% efficiency rating between charge and discharge, which isn't nearly possible with LiFePO4 chemistry. That suggests to me that this isn't a reputable company and/or they don't understand their product.

@DCGULL01 Жыл бұрын

Wow- so much to love, but- no low temp charging protection? I live pretty far North and the boats I'm looking at are even farther North (Nova Scotia)- It's NOT optional for me. I like the 8D form factor with the lower height even. Bummer. Thanks David!

@Vatrer Жыл бұрын

In fact, our models with batteries above 50ah have low temperature protection cut-off function, so you can buy with confidence. This battery may be an accident, we are also looking for the problem.

@DCGULL01 Жыл бұрын

@@Vatrer Thank you for responding directly & quickly. Glad to know that it was an error rather than a build spec. All other aspects are so well considered- even overbuilt- that it does seem like an oversight or mistake.

@Vatrer Жыл бұрын

@@DCGULL01 Of course, it is impossible that directly falsely advertise our products like this by ourselves.

@pogpogcasino Жыл бұрын

i guess that sensor is for overheat sensing not cold :)

@jar407 Жыл бұрын

i have 2 of that brand 100 ah i paid extra for low temp cutoff . is there a way to test without breaking them apart?

@joeh3767 Жыл бұрын

Sure. Cool the entire battery below the cutoff and quickly see if it accepts a charge current.

@LithiumSolar Жыл бұрын

As stated above, cool the entire battery to below freezing and see if it still takes a charge. You would need to leave it sit for a while (like overnight) to ensure the temperature inside the enclosure has reached the same as outside. This is the only way to know.

@Vatrer Жыл бұрын

Do not worry，There's definitely low temperature cut-off protection, and you can also watch Will's video, which has long been proven to have low temperature protection. 200Ah also has it, which is an accidental accident.

@davidrogers5343 Жыл бұрын

does it have an app for bms? for $700.00 it shoud

@richardsmith5001 Жыл бұрын

Per chance there is something in the BMS that is allowing charge at low temperatures because your only charging at a very very low rate. I think you said 1.5Amp, not sure if its a mosnomer or not but i thought you can charge at below zero but at very reduced rates ? Just clutching at straws, thanks for your time.

@najaB76 Жыл бұрын

I was thinking exactly the same thing. Would need to see the test repeated with a 10A charge current.

@bobcatt2294 Жыл бұрын

REVISED: After reading the manufacturer's response, It needs to be retested. Disregard the following: // The deal breaker is mislabeling. Your blog is worth subscribing thumbs up and subscribed.

@SuperVstech Жыл бұрын

I see the spec of 10P allowed, and 4S is allowed... Can 10P be set in series? Meaning what is the largest bank that can be built? It sounds like they can be arranged 10P and you can arrange 4 sets in series for 2000Ah 48V setup of 40 batteries... No?

@LithiumSolar Жыл бұрын

The booklet doesn't specify; however, I assume it's the "standard" approach per most other companies where you would series connect 4 then each series group be wired in parallel. Total of 40 batteries.

@mikebroom1866 Жыл бұрын

What do you do after these after you tear them down?

@LithiumSolar Жыл бұрын

I don't know yet. I have a big shelf full of them lol.

@banzonGreat Жыл бұрын

Is there a chance you can sell it to your Loyal subscribers? 😏 Regards from New Zealand... I Love your work :) Forcing these companies to improve :)

@sajupimi7054 Жыл бұрын

What you do with these batteries after test

@LithiumSolar Жыл бұрын

Use them

@quoleo Жыл бұрын

Do you have a new link or a battery you would recommend since this one?

@LithiumSolar Жыл бұрын

I didn't realize the Amazon listing was dead. My recommendation for the 12V 200Ah class would be the SOK www.currentconnected.com/product/sok-sk12v206-lifepo4-battery/?ref=lithiumsolar it costs a bit more but it''s sold and serviced by a US company and backed by a 10 year warranty. If you're looking for budget and don't require low-temp charging protection, LiTime is a solid choice (previously known as AmpereTime).

@quoleo Жыл бұрын

@@LithiumSolar thank you. I watched a ton of videos and yours made sense, thank you

@uhjyuff2095 Жыл бұрын

maybe they can update the firmware of the BMS so it works with low temp protection?

@Vatrer Жыл бұрын

Our batteries definitely have low temperature protection, so you can buy with confidence. then go back and test

@vacantspace333 Жыл бұрын

Wow. This battery is OCD heaven.

@370gtsp 11 ай бұрын

Please tell me the size of one cell

@jacquesb5248 Жыл бұрын

you should a try overheat protection, most likely that would have stopped it

@davidcox8961 Жыл бұрын

A nyloc nut, also referred to as a nylon-insert lock nut

@paulhart7585 Жыл бұрын

Anyone got a link thmo these in the UK? Great video.

@LithiumSolar Жыл бұрын

You can contact the company and ask here, www.vatrerpower.com/pages/contact

@Vatrer Жыл бұрын

Will do in Germany

@atpro4115 Жыл бұрын

Funny how right after someone does a review of these batteries the price goes up 30 bucks for the 100ah version and no more coupon for the 200 amp on Amazon. Twice now on the 100ah that I've seen. Not sure on the 200.

@user-iq8hn6yt9f 10 ай бұрын

Can you please review the Vatrer 460 ah battery

@LithiumSolar 10 ай бұрын

I don't think I am going to review any more of their batteries due to questionable quality/quality control.

@user-iq8hn6yt9f 10 ай бұрын

@@LithiumSolar most of us rivers do not travel in cold weather and could care less about low temp shutoff being a necessity. I do thank you for your reviews and teardowns

@Johnasmith99 10 ай бұрын

I just watched the cold test several more times and I never saw him put all 3 sensors in the ice cold water at the same time. Maybe the manufacturer is correct, all 3 must be used.

@douglaswindsor120 Жыл бұрын

Actually they probably wouldn't listen just anybody but they do the big four reviewers if Will gives a bad review they lose sales that hurts hopefully you have enough clout if so they'll fix it if not maybe Will will do a review this is why I wish he hadn't forgot where he started from up hear in Canada we have a lower dollar add 25% and gst add 5% and sky-high shipping which is sometimes higher than the product price so we're stuck with what we can buy from Lows and Rona online free or low shipping costs and all they carry is sealed lead acid battery technology now there is a unit which could be a good Entry level unit but since it has the wrong charging parameters it'll need new batteries yearly it would be a great entry level unit if they'd change from pwm to mppt solar charge controller that could be programed for lithium but as long as the only reviews they get are that it's a great unit because it works when purchased don't care if it dies after the warranty period is over or if it needs new batteries every 9 months to a year don't care if you can only use it every 2 or third day because it has so bad an input wattage

@TheDigitalMermaid Жыл бұрын

It's like being in first place in a race and tripping 10' short of the finish line.

@uhjyuff2095 Жыл бұрын

lol

@bentheguru4986 Жыл бұрын

Nuts to be safe need 2.5 threads of the bolt protruding. That NyLoc nut is usless.

@shitina.bucket9699 Жыл бұрын

Great video! However could have done with some fire🔥 so I'll have deduct a point and can only give you a 9 out of 10

@LithiumSolar Жыл бұрын

Why would you want to see fire in a battery review?

@shitina.bucket9699 Жыл бұрын

@@LithiumSolar Will does fire it's all about the fire, sadly not enough fire here 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

@PeteLeuenberger 6 ай бұрын

Great review. Anyone had a look at the 460Ah model ?

@LithiumSolar 6 ай бұрын

I just got one in yesterday! Give me a week or two :)

@PeteLeuenberger 6 ай бұрын

@@LithiumSolar ah...I kind of need to put my order in sooner. Any early insights would be great, if possible (maybe by email ?)

@HomeSysAdmin 6 ай бұрын

@@PeteLeuenberger I peaked inside and it looks like a JBD BMS and possibly EVE cells. No immediate complaints seen. Hoping to have a full review done by the end of next week at the earliest. It's being charged up for the capacity test currently.

@PeteLeuenberger 6 ай бұрын

@@HomeSysAdmin Thanks a bunch for that early info ! So it looks like to be one of the better built version, not like the one Will Prowse had done a review on. Any further updates will be greatly appreciated.

@LithiumSolar 6 ай бұрын

@@PeteLeuenberger Wooops, didn't even realize I was logged in with the wrong account. And yes, NOT like the one I tore apart that smelled like leaking electrolyte either......

@patrickrodgers7864 Ай бұрын

You are so comprehensive

@jackmarx3447 Жыл бұрын

Would you buy this battery? Do you think the company will be around for warranty replacement? Do you think this one is representative of all the current manufactured ones or did you receive a "special" one?

@LithiumSolar Жыл бұрын

I really don't know. I highly doubt it's a "special" one sent for review; however, company has not demonstrated adequate knowledge of internal components to my satisfaction.

@Vatrer Жыл бұрын

See this， kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qrZpddeZmJ2ngo0.html

@paul.phillips Жыл бұрын

Looks like a great battery, so long as you won't use it in freezing conditions, at least the price is right.

@LithiumSolar Жыл бұрын

I agree, it is a great battery! They just should not advertise it with a feature it doesn't have. That's my only gripe.

@joatmofa0405 Жыл бұрын

@@LithiumSolar Agreed - I suspect the Technical department, Sales department and the Language Translation departments of these companies very seldom communicate with each other.

@ericklein5097 Жыл бұрын

How can you say this when we have proof of different BMS’s being used????

@Vatrer Жыл бұрын

@@ericklein5097 If you don't believe me, you can buy our batteries and go back and test the low temperature function yourself. If not, you can return the battery.

@Vatrer Жыл бұрын

@@ericklein5097 100Ah battery and 20Ah battery use different BMS, but both have low temperature cutoff

@salsepulveda494 Жыл бұрын

Is the battery protected from an EMP?

@LithiumSolar Жыл бұрын

@mmurphy7036 Жыл бұрын

You would have a better presentation if you got the info from the co. You said you didn’t have time for before uploading your video. Content is as important as timing, in my opinion.

@offgridwanabe Жыл бұрын

These things are starting to become affordable.

@uhjyuff2095 Жыл бұрын

taxes

@z50king29 Жыл бұрын

No low temperature charge cut off.... Sad

@MyGoogleYoutube Жыл бұрын

It is amazing how quickly you pull your pants back up after you get pantsed....

@ChrisEpler 11 ай бұрын

Nice soft icecream cone dispensing (ROFL)

@LithiumSolar 11 ай бұрын

I'm not sure I understand the joke??

@ChrisEpler 11 ай бұрын

@@LithiumSolar The silicone blobs

@bobcatt2294 Жыл бұрын

I think you should post the manufacture's response to the low temp sensors - it is the right thing to do. You should retest grouping the 3 sensors together. Then post the results.

@LithiumSolar Жыл бұрын

I did, check here kzfaq.infoUgkxuQRI3Zamd5nl3bdBNA_Owxc3a6La9Wkl

@Vatrer Жыл бұрын

Such a test is incorrect and can only be tested if it is really in a cold, large environment. Please refer to our video ：kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qrZpddeZmJ2ngo0.html

@lickalittle Жыл бұрын

It's really a great battery for the price but without low temp protection it's a huge failure without having a heated space.

@Vatrer Жыл бұрын

Our 200ah battery has three temperature sensors, you need to put the three temperature sensors together in ice water at the same time, it will detect it, and then it will stop charging the battery.You can buy them with confidence or test the function.

@tsp2jxd Жыл бұрын

@@Vatrer Unless you show proof that the battery can perform a low temp disconnect.... YOU ARE JUST AN ANNOYING SPAMMER. PROVE IT OR GO AWAY!

@randylenart9674 Жыл бұрын

Great review to bad ya hsd to cut it up

@Oblivionsurveyor Жыл бұрын

Wild, people only buy low temp protection battery's if they need it. Typical,I went for the battery without low temp cut off, I store them in heated storage. Let's face it if your battery's are cutting off because of low temp than that's a problem in itself, when its cold people need their battery's to work. Heated storage is the best solution.