Vaults of Terra - (Horus Heresy) War Within the Webway

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7 жыл бұрын

The Vaults of Terra return with a video on the Battle within the Webway, a much overlooked conflict that decided the fate of the imperium for over 10,000 years.
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@robertlaw9162
@robertlaw9162 7 жыл бұрын
What about the theory that the portal was never really closed and the custodes have been fighting a hidden war for over 10 millenia hence why they never leave the imperial palace?
@joshuachandler1750
@joshuachandler1750 7 жыл бұрын
All this could have been avoided if he took Magnus with him to Terra to help.
@rcmunro22
@rcmunro22 5 жыл бұрын
The Emperor wanted to keep it as low key as Possible. So for example imagine if the Emperor left but took Magnus with him... all the other Primarchs would be like.... WTF... The Emperor did not want Chaos learning of the Webway project at all costs.
@5chr4pn3ll
@5chr4pn3ll 7 жыл бұрын
Magnus breaching the palace and destroying the webway machine is, imo, by far the most important event to take place in the horus heresy. That is the thing that truly chains the Emperor and his elite forces in place. Without that event he would have been free to act and to do so at a much higher power level. Magnus act was the true doom of humanity
@strategicgamingwithaacorns2874
@strategicgamingwithaacorns2874 7 жыл бұрын
"SUCK IT LEMAN, YOU FURRY FUCK!" [SUDDENLY DAEMONS]
@Big_E_Soul_Fragment
@Big_E_Soul_Fragment 7 жыл бұрын
*MMMMMAAAAAAAAAAAAGNUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSSSS!*
@Manuelomar2001
@Manuelomar2001 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, they discuss this in A Thousand Sons and Deliverance Lost. Both Magnus (and later, Corax) realize that Horus's entire rebellion is way less important than what happened at the Terra webway gate.
@venomstar6789
@venomstar6789 7 жыл бұрын
i got to ask why would chaos have to fear form humanity even if there a webway people would have still give off emotion which would still power them people would still kill korn get's something people would still get sick nurgal get's something ect i never really got how having a webway would change all that
@venomstar6789
@venomstar6789 7 жыл бұрын
***** (imo)that what it stands for in my honest opinion
@christopherwilliams7845
@christopherwilliams7845 7 жыл бұрын
What about the role of future Captain General Kitten during the Battle of the Webway?
@albertpasternak4299
@albertpasternak4299 7 жыл бұрын
Kaiser Chris he was the one sweeping the floor in the throne room. gotta keep the gold clean!
@franciosdeaeruiu7555
@franciosdeaeruiu7555 7 жыл бұрын
Kaiser Chris i love how any 40k video comments section would be just as at home in a tts comment section
@mitchverr9330
@mitchverr9330 7 жыл бұрын
He was purring his way up the ranks ofcourse.
@TerrorBlades
@TerrorBlades 7 жыл бұрын
Mmm yes, but that's all he ever was really good for~
@revantobias8567
@revantobias8567 7 жыл бұрын
terrorblades THAT'S NOT FUUUUCKING CANNON!!!
@tincano-beans2114
@tincano-beans2114 7 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered why emps didn't just build this thing LITERALLY anywhere but earth... also why magnus didn't say, "oh shiz, sorry dad but a civil war is about to rip your empire in half and horus is ebil! *shows proof* aight? cool, ima just let myself out and melt daemons as I leave" *mind bullets*
@kirkcannon4704
@kirkcannon4704 7 жыл бұрын
Alex Kerley Serious security hazard lol
@VaultsOfTerra
@VaultsOfTerra 7 жыл бұрын
Most secure place in the Imperium.
@gcircle
@gcircle 7 жыл бұрын
The Emperor's angry face is probably something even the mighty, demi-god like Primarchs shit their pants at the sight of.
@romulusnuma116
@romulusnuma116 7 жыл бұрын
I guess the projection he made of himself wasn't very stable so when he realised what he had done and how pissed the emperor was he wanted to not be there even if only for a second so it send him back.
@vsGoliath96
@vsGoliath96 7 жыл бұрын
lvn nvk And once again the prodigal nerd is brought low by his greatest enemy... social interaction.
@Redem10
@Redem10 7 жыл бұрын
Nice job, Magnus
@justincronkright5025
@justincronkright5025 5 жыл бұрын
Just learn how to say sorry 'For Fuck's Sake'. I mean come on! He's 'Canadian Red' after all...
@Jinisinsane
@Jinisinsane 7 жыл бұрын
Magnus the red is the bad luck brian of the 40k universe.
@alecnava5465
@alecnava5465 7 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else want to cry when they read that the golden throne is failing, and soon humanity will have to face the darkness without the light of the emperor?
@whofookncares2149
@whofookncares2149 Жыл бұрын
Rope is pretty cheap now adays if you truly think that ink on paper should make you cry kid
@AnonNomad
@AnonNomad 7 жыл бұрын
Press F to honour the Emperor.
@Sigismund697
@Sigismund697 7 жыл бұрын
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@Vsm426
@Vsm426 7 жыл бұрын
F
@artski09
@artski09 7 жыл бұрын
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@mikeloeven
@mikeloeven 7 жыл бұрын
The thing I never understood is if the portal is essentially a small hole into the warp why cant the mechanicus cant just set up a few gellar field generators around the portal to plug it. These generate containment fields powerfull enough to protect huge starships from the forces of the warp so generating a field to seal such a comparatively small portal should be rather easy
@dylan__dog
@dylan__dog 4 жыл бұрын
If the demons have already entered realspace it doesn't help much to have a bubble of fake realspace on the entryway
@parkermaisterra8532
@parkermaisterra8532 7 жыл бұрын
Hmm so the Emperor from "If the emperor had a text to speech device" was right "Everything is Magnus' fault"
@artski09
@artski09 7 жыл бұрын
#blamelorgar
@jamietucker3872
@jamietucker3872 7 жыл бұрын
poor magnus..who knew? its horus's fault.. but he was in a weak state.. its chaos's fault..but really its humanities fault...
@parkermaisterra8532
@parkermaisterra8532 7 жыл бұрын
Jamie Tucker How the hell is it Humanities fault!? If it wasn't for Chaos screwing everything up we would still be in the age of technology, if it wasn't for chaos the emperor wouldn't have to take time to find his sons who got influenced by their planets which caused problems coughLogarcough. But a lot of shit could have been avoided if Magnus didn't runaway from his daddy and just said two damn words "Horus" and "Betrayal" which would have lead the emperor to have his troops ready to fight Horus
@superwargamer3229
@superwargamer3229 7 жыл бұрын
lmao i love that show
@hellball5
@hellball5 7 жыл бұрын
Lorgar did nothing wrong.
@vsGoliath96
@vsGoliath96 7 жыл бұрын
Shit like this is why I'm buying some of the Custodes models when they come out later this year. Im not even going to make an army of anything, I just want some cause they're badasses.
@mitchverr9330
@mitchverr9330 7 жыл бұрын
They are out in 6 days actually in the BoP set :)
@vsGoliath96
@vsGoliath96 7 жыл бұрын
mitch verr Aaaaaand there go my life's savings. They'd better get a full army and not just the one squad type though...
@mitchverr9330
@mitchverr9330 7 жыл бұрын
vsGoliath They will be, in the back of their profile picture is a golden dread and the facebook has said that forgeworld is doing a full (or at least mini dex) 30k army in the next book it seems.
@gwailo1056
@gwailo1056 7 жыл бұрын
yeah i agree the models for custodes from BoP looks badass
@hellhelghast
@hellhelghast 7 жыл бұрын
now THIS is a video i can watch without feeling guilty or worried of spoiling a Horus Heresy book
@ronj7677
@ronj7677 7 жыл бұрын
I love your videos so much. I've read all this lore so many times but hearing you just brings it to life for me. Thank you for bringing me a few minutes of happiness every time you upload! I know that was cheesy as hell but I wanted you to know that your work is greatly appreciated!
@claypidgeon4807
@claypidgeon4807 7 жыл бұрын
MMMMMAAAAAAAGGGGGGGNNNNNNUUUUUUUSSSSSSSS
@MrUser1million
@MrUser1million 6 жыл бұрын
The imperium really should have figured out a way to close the portal by now!
@Masonicon
@Masonicon 7 жыл бұрын
Navigator house's greed are come to play when it makes Emperor refuses to tells even Primarchs about his Webway Project
@MrJohnycomelately21
@MrJohnycomelately21 7 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be nice if these Mega Super post humans had any sort of social skills and just, you know.... talk to one another?? Sorry I broke your stuff dad but Horus is evil now??
@phylippezimmermannpaquin2062
@phylippezimmermannpaquin2062 7 жыл бұрын
no be fair, he was in the right to fear the mightiest bitch slap in the universe that could have befallen him before he could have said a word
@Manuelomar2001
@Manuelomar2001 7 жыл бұрын
They did. Magnus psychically imparted all knowledge of Horus's treason in an instant. The Emperor did not believe him. Also, you're hitting a greater point that, in general, the Emperor and his sons were a bunch of short-sighted dipshits that had no business being in charge of any government, or humanity.
@TheCorrodedMan
@TheCorrodedMan 7 жыл бұрын
Manuelomar2001 they were,and didn't
@superhooper9490
@superhooper9490 7 жыл бұрын
one of my fav vids u have done. Very interesting topic loved your enthusiasm
@captainl-ron4068
@captainl-ron4068 7 жыл бұрын
The death of the emperor, the destruction of terra, the return of nearly all the primarchs and the forging of Imperium Secundus centred around Ultramar.........41k age of smurfs?
@kyokyoniizukyo7171
@kyokyoniizukyo7171 7 жыл бұрын
its hinted that it will be probably the darkest days of imperium, but they have stated numerous times that they don't have to end 40k due to its profits...
@Manuelomar2001
@Manuelomar2001 7 жыл бұрын
What profits? Nobody plays it anymore. Go to any game store and everything is Magic and Yu-Gi-Oh and the various new living card games. Minis in general are pretty dead. Not just 40k, but the whole minis market.
@mitchverr9330
@mitchverr9330 7 жыл бұрын
"nobody plays it anymore" new stuff going sold out within the first week with backlog orders stopping shipping to stores for a week or 2 more suggests otherwise man. In fact 40k seems to be reviving thanks to the foresight of the current CEO in not being an idiot and moving into giving people what they want.
@Manuelomar2001
@Manuelomar2001 7 жыл бұрын
***** Maybe where you live. Nobody in Texas plays it.
@mitchverr9330
@mitchverr9330 7 жыл бұрын
***** Shame bud, picking up quiet well in the UK to the point they opened new stores in places which didnt even have groups, having the managers form them, is working pretty nicely too. Always sucks when you live in a place that doesnt do it though when its something you like, i remember that.
@leopoldjenkins
@leopoldjenkins 7 жыл бұрын
excellent video. really well researched and presented as always Ed
@gswinney1533
@gswinney1533 7 жыл бұрын
now THIS, i didnt know. theres always somthibg new to learn in this lore, and i love it.
@222Kev
@222Kev 7 жыл бұрын
Love every one of these vids. Nice work.
@TheMrFishnDucks
@TheMrFishnDucks 7 жыл бұрын
that is awesome. i had no idea this lore existed.
@nuke7777
@nuke7777 Жыл бұрын
The big e really rocked up and proved why skill based match making is important
@moesua9217
@moesua9217 7 жыл бұрын
I know my 40k lore fairly well, & normally I watch your videos just to confirm details. However I actually really did not know this particular story. Thanks for the education
@Big_E_Soul_Fragment
@Big_E_Soul_Fragment 7 жыл бұрын
*[SUDDENLY DAEMONS]* *MAAAAAGNUUUUUUUUUUUS!!!!*
@jazeroth322
@jazeroth322 7 жыл бұрын
this answers a lot of questions thanks
@lianglonglong
@lianglonglong 7 жыл бұрын
maaan... how cool would it be if you would have a 10 man custoduan guard protecting you (+ all their support network ie. repair maintanance equipment etc)
@albertpasternak4299
@albertpasternak4299 7 жыл бұрын
liang longlong even superman wouldn't come close to you
@matthewgillaspy01
@matthewgillaspy01 7 жыл бұрын
love these more please!
@allways28
@allways28 7 жыл бұрын
wow thanks for this vid. I never knew any of this!!!!
@hollyhandgrenade42
@hollyhandgrenade42 7 жыл бұрын
I thought that Malcador didn't die on the throne and went on to help for the Inquisition.
@christopherwilliams7845
@christopherwilliams7845 7 жыл бұрын
That was before Horus arrived as Loyalist Astartes from the Traitor legions such as Captain Nathaniel Garro arrived on Terra after the Istvaan V massacre. The Emperor told him to bring men and women of unquestioning loyalty to the Imperium so Malcador created the foundations of the Inquisition with 8 Loyalist Astartes and 4 Sisters of Silence.
@BlueskKulls
@BlueskKulls 7 жыл бұрын
Alpharius no he invented the inquisition beforehand with the knights of errand and other individuals
@johndalziel4226
@johndalziel4226 7 жыл бұрын
BlueskKull Omegon survives not Alpharius. At the end of Dorns Praetorian it tells you Omegon feels Alpharius death when Dorn kills him and goes on making Horus believe he is still alive :)
@BlueskKulls
@BlueskKulls 7 жыл бұрын
John Dalziel i think you misunderstood my answer his nickname is alpharius I was talking about malcador
@Deathskull0001
@Deathskull0001 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, this want covered in any of yhe books I read, it explains so much, thank you.
@tabscuswastooshort9351
@tabscuswastooshort9351 7 жыл бұрын
the fact that the emperor created only created magnus for fixing the broken webway makes me wonder if he always considered the webway to be able to break
@D3athChick3n
@D3athChick3n 7 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for Magnus
@ectogambit
@ectogambit 7 жыл бұрын
If only Empz had a text to speech device
@Haconen96
@Haconen96 7 жыл бұрын
i would love to see more content from GW about the blockades and the battles that the sisters and custodes
@adamoneill2660
@adamoneill2660 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome video
@jakobsjoling107
@jakobsjoling107 6 жыл бұрын
This explains the Emperors surprising ruling at Nikea.
@oatlord
@oatlord 6 жыл бұрын
You'd think after 30 thousand years the emperor would have learned to put the dangerous web gate project someplace unpopulated. Did he not watch Stargate SG-1?
@Thetepkai
@Thetepkai 7 жыл бұрын
Damnit Magnus if you just flew back to earth like a normal person......
@norkimo8797
@norkimo8797 7 жыл бұрын
great video keep it up!
@Valivali94
@Valivali94 7 жыл бұрын
So Magnus is more responsible for humanities downfall than Horus.
@Trazyn_the_Infinite_40K
@Trazyn_the_Infinite_40K 6 жыл бұрын
Valivali94 technically it's Erebus and Kor Phaeron
@davephillips8908
@davephillips8908 7 жыл бұрын
Magnus dropped a bollock there...
@negativezero8174
@negativezero8174 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Magnus
@skycommander2153
@skycommander2153 Ай бұрын
Magnus you did this for all the right reasons goddamn it man you fucked it all up
@matthewzumbo9868
@matthewzumbo9868 7 жыл бұрын
i hope the emperor doesn't die!
@paccini1
@paccini1 7 жыл бұрын
I really want to read the books. Do you know where to start? Someone told me to start with the Horus Heresy books.
@aristocraticcthulhu3831
@aristocraticcthulhu3831 7 жыл бұрын
Ed, is there going to be a dark heresy stream tomorrow?
@LordofAshes
@LordofAshes 7 жыл бұрын
I have a question. If the emperor, inturned on the golden throne, is acting as a beacon to guide all the ships of the imperium through the warp, how then did they navigate before this point? how did the emperor and his sons navigate in the warp during the great crusade? And how did mankind navigate before then, in the golden age of technology?
@Darkflame1423
@Darkflame1423 2 жыл бұрын
Know this is very late but I believe they didn't need the emperor in the beginning because the Golden Throne and the astronomicon we're not damaged then Magnus cause damage so now I had to pretty much be manually done which is what the emperor is doing
@williambuehler5640
@williambuehler5640 7 жыл бұрын
what if he has been repairing it the entire time?
@noahschneider400
@noahschneider400 7 жыл бұрын
Hey xenos and heretics of KZfaq! I need some advice as to where to go next with my dark angels army. I have 3 squads of marines, a dreadnought and a squad of terminators. I want to expand but I'm short on cash right now so I can only get one thing for now. I was think some more armour like a land raider, rhino or a squad of bikes. Should I go for one big thing or a squad? Maybe some Astra militarum to support my marines? Any suggestions from more experienced commanders?
@klaiken989
@klaiken989 7 жыл бұрын
Can you do one on the animals or creatures of the warp??? Aside from the daemons of course:D I mean like the primal animal type creatures that have always dwelled there!
@lorgaraurelian2907
@lorgaraurelian2907 7 жыл бұрын
that was the non chaotic entities of the warp video :)
@rogerr.8507
@rogerr.8507 7 жыл бұрын
Thats when he knew.... He'd fucked up.
@olavlomeland2183
@olavlomeland2183 7 жыл бұрын
If Magnus was to be placed on the golden throne to space magic fuel the webway stuff why was he not kept at Terra in order to be educated in how to maintain it? If Magnus hypotethically was to refuse this order, to essentially be an battery sitting in the chair for all eternity, what would the Emperor have done? Place himself there for all eternity?
@GaratghDeloi
@GaratghDeloi 7 жыл бұрын
If the gateway/throne haden't been damaged by Magnus attempt to contact the Emperor they wouldent have needed someone sitting on the throne 24/7 to seal the gate shut. So keeping Magnus on terra and educating him in something that wasen't supposed to happen seems a bit wastefull, but on the other hand it might have prevented everything going tits up like it did (would kinda ruin the whole warhammer 40k storyline though) :P . Would kinda be intressting if games workshop made someone write a book with some alternative storylines for wh40k. What would have happened if certain things didnt happen or happened in different ways. They could allways present them as a farseer seing possible futures before the heresy or something.
@Manuelomar2001
@Manuelomar2001 7 жыл бұрын
They did need somebody sitting on the Throne to build new webway segments, though. That was Magnus's planned fate, the Emp was going to use him as a battery and have him build tunnels forever. Not a nice fate. Even though Magnus felt bad for, well, *ruining everything*, he also resent the Emperor for having essentially planned to keep Magnus enslaved on the Throne for all time.
@Sporkmaker5150
@Sporkmaker5150 7 жыл бұрын
+Manuelomar2001 I always assumed the living battery plan was nothing more than a lie designed by Tzeench to win Magnus over to the side of Chaos.
@GaratghDeloi
@GaratghDeloi 7 жыл бұрын
***** That may be true, but it would be something that Magnus would be needed for eventually once the system was completed, not right away (and hopefully not something that needed to be done 24/7). Considering that the Emp didnt want the chaos gods to know telling your one son with the biggest connection to the warp might have been considered a risk (of course the chaos gods knew anyway, but the story suggests that the Emp didnt know that).
@GaratghDeloi
@GaratghDeloi 7 жыл бұрын
Nathan Holstrom He was the primarch that was most powerfull when it cames to matters concerning to the warp and being able to utilize the warp is a effect of having a precense in the warp and thus being connected to it. So he indeed have the biggest connection to the warp among the primarchs. When he reverted the flesh change he didnt know the identity of the warp creatures he made the deal with. Also, supposedly the Emperor himself has made deals with the chaos gods in the past to create the primarchs, so if thats enough of a reason for termination (in your opinion) then the Emperor should have killed himself way before the primarchs were around.
@CanWeGoBackRIPhiphop
@CanWeGoBackRIPhiphop 7 жыл бұрын
Are there any books written on this?
@lordmarine2813
@lordmarine2813 7 жыл бұрын
Man this WH40k is so grim... although I just love the story, one of the best so far in my book... I just wonder what will happen if the emperor shuts down... In some way I'm afraid to know - if this means the end of humanity...
@fumarc4501
@fumarc4501 7 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Eldar could get into the Golden Throne through that portal?
@ceresbane
@ceresbane 7 жыл бұрын
they can't its sealed. And the tunnel was never completed. Its not connected to anything.
@Manuelomar2001
@Manuelomar2001 7 жыл бұрын
Well, it's connected to 324734w76473645 demons.
@matthewrobinson8473
@matthewrobinson8473 7 жыл бұрын
please do the traitor legions i need my iron warrior and thousand sons lore.
@GhostofRazors
@GhostofRazors 7 жыл бұрын
what novel is this from?
@TheKruxed
@TheKruxed 7 жыл бұрын
Is there a video on the old ones?
@VaultsOfTerra
@VaultsOfTerra 7 жыл бұрын
Not yet, they are mentioned in my Necron overview video though.
@TheKruxed
@TheKruxed 7 жыл бұрын
***** Thanks for the reply.
@christiandauz3742
@christiandauz3742 7 жыл бұрын
How the hell are Custodes and Sisters of Silence taking out Traitor Titans in both this conflict and the Battle for Terra!?!
@williambuehler5640
@williambuehler5640 7 жыл бұрын
Christian Dauz you can scale a titan if you get close enuf
@materudas2771
@materudas2771 7 жыл бұрын
how do we know the golden throne is failling
@knobjockey6882
@knobjockey6882 7 жыл бұрын
So, with that last statement ... 40k end times approaches?
@Eazy1416
@Eazy1416 7 жыл бұрын
Just as it has been since 40k was first conceived and grew. The entire story for 40k is basically the end times and has been for years. They do advance the lore forward but its very slow so i wouldnt be too worried about that.
@MasterCrawford343
@MasterCrawford343 7 жыл бұрын
Knob Jockey khaine's Gate the the Dark City is breaking, Iyanden's chief Spirirseer Iyanna Arenal is nearly done colecting the items nessasary for the Phoenix Reborn prophecy, many codexes hint to it
@Manuelomar2001
@Manuelomar2001 7 жыл бұрын
The 13th Black Crusade was supposed to herald the End Time, and GW's been milking that shit since like 2001. It's also been the year 40,999 in the game for like the last two decades. They are never going to advance the plot unless sales start sagging so bad that they need to wrap up and re-launch the product line, like they did with Warahmmer Fantasy.
@knobjockey6882
@knobjockey6882 7 жыл бұрын
I hope so. Warhammer's end times was painful. 40K has always been my favourite wargame, so I hope they don't give it the apocalypse treatment.
@Manuelomar2001
@Manuelomar2001 7 жыл бұрын
Knob Jockey I hope they do. Pretty sick of the "present" moment, and of 40k in general. I used to love it but in the last decade it's fans have gotten rabid and it's lore has gotten stale. It needs to end and get consigned to the dustbin of history just like other games from the 80s.
@Jingnan-j1h
@Jingnan-j1h 7 жыл бұрын
cite sources? did you read MoM early?
@Banksy122
@Banksy122 7 жыл бұрын
From my understanding the golden throne nor the "human" webway was built by the Emperor but found
@sekireialpha
@sekireialpha 7 жыл бұрын
the golden throne was found, but the emperor had to build the gate and create a small portion of webway in order to access the rest of it.
@Sigismund697
@Sigismund697 7 жыл бұрын
makes you wonder what the throne was built for in the first place, I hope that if they eventually expand the lore of the Unification wars they explore if the Emperor knew it was there of he just wanted to excavate there for DAoT stuff
@Manuelomar2001
@Manuelomar2001 7 жыл бұрын
It's something from the Golden Age of Technology. At one point humanity controlled much of the galaxy then, their only rival being the Eldar. They would have known about the warp and it's dangers. (Something that has always seemed absurd to me is how inconsistent this is portrayed, like how people didn't know about how dangerous the Warp was until the events in Horus rising. Seriously? Every time a ship entered FTL it literally risks being eaten by demons. The level of ignorance just seemed absurd. Of course they would know. They might not call it "Chaos" but they would know that extremely dangerous lifeforms prowled the warp)
@Sigismund697
@Sigismund697 7 жыл бұрын
***** they knew the warp was dangerous in a really simplistic way (ie. they assumed it was a toxic enviorment for living tisue) some more educated like Horus knew there was a kind of xenos species living in the warp and that they had ill intent towards spacecraft. in reality it was probably a matter of they didn't care nor they really had a reason to know, as long as the ship took them were they wanted to go it could be magic for all the regular joe cared. even the pristhood only had (and still has) a basic understanding of the warp and it's dangers beyond "just keep the Gellar fields on". it's like imagine that cellphones used warp communication, do you need to know that your emojis and lols traverse the warp to use them? not really and most people barely care how cellphones work.
@Manuelomar2001
@Manuelomar2001 7 жыл бұрын
I love how Nathan Holstrom is now stalking and commenting on every single 40k thread that I comment on youtube. Way to be a fucking neckbeard troll. Maximum fedora, congrats.
@Zefurion1988
@Zefurion1988 7 жыл бұрын
The Golden Throne is Failing?
@antec12gtx260
@antec12gtx260 7 жыл бұрын
not quite just taking more and more psykers to be sacrificed to sustain the emperor. so we dont knowif the golden throne is failing or if the emperor is just dying faster
@joelewis3865
@joelewis3865 7 жыл бұрын
I heard that the Golden Throne is in fact failing, and that the Mechanicus no longer have the knowledge to repair it...
@antec12gtx260
@antec12gtx260 7 жыл бұрын
ahh that could make sense isnt there a mission into the webway to the black library in comorragh to obtain the knowledge cant remember
@forgefathereli8354
@forgefathereli8354 7 жыл бұрын
lol You would think the emperor would have, with his knowledge of chaos, kept a much closer eye on literally all his primarchs. Especially Magnus, i mean shit a simple conversation with the guy explaining whats going down would have prevented this entire event. And would have freed the emperor up for all this time to get back to crusading and just let malcador take over on earth. Magnus himself, who even if the emperor wasn't watching closely, would have stayed loyal if he was kept informed.
@forgefathereli8354
@forgefathereli8354 7 жыл бұрын
he left because the emperor was keeping secrets, Magnus was one of the few traitor primarchs who went rogue for "the right reason" or at least a much more easily justified reason in retrospect. If the Emperor had just kept a close eye on them and/or educated them about chaos instead of hiding it from them... Bad move. I mean just look at the imperium now everyone knows about chaos or at least they are educated how to not "fall" even if they don't know to what. lol
@strategicgamingwithaacorns2874
@strategicgamingwithaacorns2874 7 жыл бұрын
Here's what I'd change if I was allowed by GW to make a new edition of Warhammer 40K. -The Emperor succeeds in making the Webway of Mankind. However, while it is safer than the warp, it is acutally 500% slower to travel through the Webway than through the Warp (not to mention the constant danger of Dark Eldar corsairs), so it is only used by convoys of freighters and escorts, Rogue Traders, and the occasional Astartes fleet heading to or from Commoragh. -There are so-called "Warp Sinks" at random locations in the Webway where it empties into the Warp, and Daemons can enter the Webway but only within a certain radius (and the city of Commoragh has special technology that temporarily seals any Warp Sinks within a certain radius so that it is protected from Daemonic attack). -There is a Warp Sink within the Solar System known as the Eye of Magnus (as it was Magnus the Red who discovered the Warp Sink), close enough to Terra, Luna, and Mars for Daemons to make occasional raids on all three worlds. -Terra, Luna, and Mars have been subjected to frequent Daemonic incursions ever since the Heresy, and all three have high military presences as a result.
@kyokyoniizukyo7171
@kyokyoniizukyo7171 7 жыл бұрын
seems better then most stories...
@ArdanTheHalfDragon
@ArdanTheHalfDragon 7 жыл бұрын
If Emps had been able to finish the webway, it implies Magnus wouldn't have blown it up. If Magnus wouldn't have blown it up, it implies he either didn't know about Horus or found another way to tell his father. That means Emps would have been free to use his massive army of glorious golden gentlemen to annihilate Horus quick and clean-like, and everything would be quite different,
@strategicgamingwithaacorns2874
@strategicgamingwithaacorns2874 7 жыл бұрын
Nathan Holstrom No, because in the Webway you don't have to constantly worry about hordes of Daemons boarding your ship, merely the relatively insignificant concerns of navigating the literal labyrinth of the Webway (_not even the Eldar themselves know every single route through the Webway!_) and fending off the occasional Dark Eldar raids. The Webway would be taking the Long Way around while the Warp would be a (highly dangerous) shortcut. Going for the Warp rather than the Webway is basically sacrificing safety for speed. For an analogy, you have to go from point A to point B. To get to point B, you can either take a shortcut through an alligator-infested swamp or go through a maze that you know is not inherently dangerous. The maze is the Webway and the alligator-infested swamp is the Warp.
@H-man414
@H-man414 7 жыл бұрын
Following on from John's point, the Dark Eldar aren't really a standing army, they are lightning strike fast raids which catch people off guard, if people could sufficiently travel through the webway such as ships etc they would be armed to the hilt with more than enough firepower to annihilate dark eldar
@TheJarric
@TheJarric 7 жыл бұрын
any vids on pretty marines
@Choppytehbear1337
@Choppytehbear1337 7 жыл бұрын
woo!
@Shogundoxie1414
@Shogundoxie1414 7 жыл бұрын
Does that mean the Drop Site Massacre is next?
@Deysh3
@Deysh3 7 жыл бұрын
I don't think so. didn't he already make a video on both 1st and 2nd Drop Site Massacres?
@Shogundoxie1414
@Shogundoxie1414 7 жыл бұрын
I don't think so, he did the Battle of Istvaan 3, The Drop Site Massacre was on Istvaan 5.
@RuleofThreeTAG
@RuleofThreeTAG 7 жыл бұрын
goddammit Magnus!
@SupaL33tKillar
@SupaL33tKillar 7 жыл бұрын
I wonder why Magnus just couldn't say sorry. FFS. Hell i wonder why none of the brothers couldn't just try to settle their feelings of insecurities or guilt with the emperor himself. maybe something about the purge of 2 and 11 but yeh
@Darkben139
@Darkben139 7 жыл бұрын
I still think Magnus is one of the few sons to deserve forgiveness he heart was in the right place..
@phylippezimmermannpaquin2062
@phylippezimmermannpaquin2062 7 жыл бұрын
MMMAAGNUUSSSSS
@saikcaskey451
@saikcaskey451 7 жыл бұрын
Guys, I've been watching your videos for about a year now, maybe more, excellent content, decent audio, funny pro-nounce-iations, great detail. However I would like to request that you stagger your Horus Heresy videos with others, I am so sick of hearing about it. Would be cool if you started throwing in the odd video about another race, following a similar pattern to the way you've covered Imperium of Man/Space Marines/Adeptus Mechanicus so far Understandable if there's not enough content (you're my primary source of lore) or if the majority of your fans only want Dark Heresy and Horus Heresy, but there's so much 40k stuff that you guys don't cover, that you could! Some of the lower quality channels get a lot of subscribers and views just by banging on with their own opinion and interpretation
@mattygee37
@mattygee37 7 жыл бұрын
if the sister of silence are anathema to psykers then how dose the Emperor of mankind stand being in their presence?
@VaultsOfTerra
@VaultsOfTerra 7 жыл бұрын
Sheer power, they could not contain him if they all brought their anti-psyker powers together to suppress him, like a single plank against a flood.
@mattygee37
@mattygee37 7 жыл бұрын
***** Fair enough,I do hope GW never tell the origin of the Emperor for me the mystery is always greater.They ruined the dark angels when we found out their dirty secrets lol
@VaultsOfTerra
@VaultsOfTerra 7 жыл бұрын
If you watch my Emperor video you may be disappointed
@mattygee37
@mattygee37 7 жыл бұрын
***** none of its confirmed though is it?
@VaultsOfTerra
@VaultsOfTerra 7 жыл бұрын
Most of it is older lore, but also most of it is official.
@Juryiat
@Juryiat 7 жыл бұрын
I thought malcador died due to his physical age not his mental psyker strain
@BigBroTejano
@BigBroTejano 7 жыл бұрын
The Emperor may be a god... but he is a horrible father...
@gardiendesportes
@gardiendesportes 7 жыл бұрын
BigBroLittleSis1 The empreror is not a god, he is just human
@VIAncient-Fafnir
@VIAncient-Fafnir 7 жыл бұрын
Web way reminds me of stargaze sg-1
@VaultsOfTerra
@VaultsOfTerra 7 жыл бұрын
Sort of, but slower.
@Tenhys
@Tenhys 7 жыл бұрын
They are some big differences between the two traveling systems. Stargate was kind of like a phone : one way direction, one to one portal, one set of coordinates each. The Webway is a complete network, much like a spider web, with portal granting access on command, on the go. So, though appearing similar in idea, both systems are actually quite different from each other.
@MsGhoulz
@MsGhoulz 7 жыл бұрын
So, the throne is just a useless trinket of burden?
@VaultsOfTerra
@VaultsOfTerra 7 жыл бұрын
Not really, it still serves a purpose, without it Terra would be dead along with the Imperium, but for the Emperor, kind of yes.
@branthebear
@branthebear 7 жыл бұрын
i still think the game workshop could have made this game better but ya i no longer run rps in this world cause a space fold is so much safer than the wap
@ImperatorIke573
@ImperatorIke573 6 жыл бұрын
MMMMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGNUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUS!!!!!!!!!!!
@taxidrivercarl6074
@taxidrivercarl6074 4 жыл бұрын
Everything was Magnus' fault
@theatagamer90
@theatagamer90 7 жыл бұрын
Hello........ Ed
@Modernarcher119
@Modernarcher119 6 жыл бұрын
#theSonsdidnothingwrong
@admiralhugo40k
@admiralhugo40k 7 жыл бұрын
should have waited for Master of Mankind. Maybe the book will change the lore.
@propjam2
@propjam2 7 жыл бұрын
I really wish they would move the story forward. .
@berserkmadman
@berserkmadman 7 жыл бұрын
if only the black crusade would start....
@Raumance
@Raumance 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not very familiar with 40k what is black crusade?
@Dodara87
@Dodara87 7 жыл бұрын
google it man
@propjam2
@propjam2 7 жыл бұрын
***** I reckon when they've finished making the book series for the horus heresy things will move forward. And if it doesnt i'll have concluded there will be no end story in my life time and move on.
@berserkmadman
@berserkmadman 7 жыл бұрын
they did start the black crusade again tho so maybe it could be sooner than you think
@galgenvogel
@galgenvogel 7 жыл бұрын
Hey, I have a super secret unstable Project and don`t tell my Overpowered Psi-son even one Word about it. That most be a good Idea. And even better, I forbid him to use his power, because of my project and don`t tell him why. Best Idea ever!!! *face-palm*
@cringlator
@cringlator 7 жыл бұрын
In before custodes models hype, oops too late
@extijarm
@extijarm 7 жыл бұрын
dom hi is
@AlindBack
@AlindBack 7 жыл бұрын
Well, shit.
@jadejill3444
@jadejill3444 7 жыл бұрын
Na he be dead, silly you corps emperor can't help you now. BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD, SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE.
@whofookncares2149
@whofookncares2149 Жыл бұрын
@5:02 let's be honest here. There is a less then 0 chance The Big E is some sand π|9937
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