I've never had a problem with heat during transit. Most come from the warehouses warped due to heat in them. I also don't live where we get a lot of 100 degree days thankfully, so that probably helps too.

@@BriansVinylRecords Texas is a really HOT place in Summer, people can and do actually die from the heat in their homes if their electricity's cut off during summer. They got laws here that's suppose to protect people from this happening to them here!

My package came with a thermometer, and it works pretty well. Trial and error was the best thing for me, but I also use the groovy pouch and not an oven. Do you use the groovy pouch?

@@BriansVinylRecords nope I just use my regular electric oven. The hard part for me at first was that my oven only goes down to 170 so I have to use the warm and hold feature and open or close the oven depending on more or less heat lol

@@BriansVinylRecords my next experiment is leaving a record in it for 2wks to 1 month under a heat vent in my home office and see if it flattens perfect

Thanks boss! I hope your results are as good as mine.

Might have to get one

Yeah I have that as well. Glad you enjoy yours too.

Thanks for watching. I hope you have as much success as I have

Great instructive video on how to use the vinyl flattener. I watch a few other youtube videos about the vinyl flattener. Switching them off as they were uninformative ego trips. Some I watched through to the end hoping I would learn something. But knew as much when they finished as I did when they started. Yours is top class. No nonsense. None of the sleep inducing needless waffle. I even learned what the die cut out foam was for. That information is not included in the instructions that came with the flattener. 10/10 for a great youtube video. One thing I’d like to know is, when putting the vinyl in the flattener do you put the warped side facing up or facing down? Perhaps it doesn’t matter. Once again thank you for a great video. I learned so much 👍🏼

Thanks!

For sure. I have quite a few warped records that play fine, but are not fun to watch spin on the turntable. I have a record coming next week that sells for good money that I got dirt cheap because of a warp. I am hoping to get a good flattening experience on it. Crossing my fingers.

Ahoy Eric! I was doing the math myself. Maybe I'll get the device and try using an electric blanket.

@@BriansVinylRecords did the flatening expérience was good with other record? I just saw your vidéo,good job man

@@turnover57 So far I have had very good luck flattening records. The only ones I can't flatten are the ones were there are multiple warps in a row like a ripple effect. Those just won't smooth out.

Rock on! I wish you much success!

@BriansVinylRecords 1st one was a fale (100% my fault) the others came out perfect!!!!

@@edwardyoung8575 bummer on the first one, but I'm glad to hear you got the rest working well. So exciting.

I like that approach. Very cool.

As long as there is no groove damage from storage, this method should work well.

same here... just bit the bullet and ordered it. :)

Thanks Todd! I hope so too. I have a really nasty warped record coming in, and if I can get it to flatten and be playable I will be so excited!

Hope you enjoy it!

Awesome! I hope you have as much success as I have. I just flatted another this last week. Love it!

@@BriansVinylRecords yup, full success on all 3 albums. Very very happy 👍

@@tjveith fantastic!

That is one way to do it, but I would worry about groove distortion and damage myself.

@@BriansVinylRecords True, but, it was an experiment and, other than putting it in the oven (the other route suggested), I had no other option. As for this device, as great as it seems to be, up until a year ago when I bought a few thousand 45's, I only have about 3 to 5 mildly warped records. There might be twice as many in that bunch I bought last year. So, it's hardly worth my blowing over $200 for something I might use a dozen times.

@@RedVynil I have fixed well over 30 records with my vinyl flat. Sadly newer pressed records are coming out warped way too often these days. QC is a major issue that hasn't been fixed. To me it was well worth the investment.

@@BriansVinylRecords I'm wondering if they're using a cheaper vinyl! I've been noticing for the past few decades that, even if you get a record that's on ordinary black vinyl, if you hold it up to a light, you can still see through it! You can't do that with older black vinyl! There's also a few that I've got that are black but, when you hold it up to a light to look through it, it's red. I lost my blacklight about 20 years ago so, I haven't had the chance to check them out under that but, some cheaper records, under a blacklight, turn various colours! In normal light, they're black but, under a blacklight, they turn orange or yellow or red, possibly even brown, and have a swirly looking pattern. Mostly that's on cheaper records, like the ones from the New Jersey area. I don't know why but most records from that area are very badly made!

@@RedVynil I think it's more to do with not letting the vinyl cool enough after pressing them due to the high demand for vinyl now. Not sure though.

Glad you enjoyed it!

Glad it was helpful!

some still do that! I just never had luck with the two pieces of glass method.

Glad you enjoyed

Thanks Rod!

Thanks for checking me out

Phew, glad Exile is ok. Great album

May your results be as good as mine.

depends on the warp, but if it plays then the vinyl flat should take care of it. Might take a couple cycles.

I haven't had any issues with albums rewarping at all. Everything has been good and stayed flat.

I would think that's the case too it helps relax the vinyl relieving the stress causing the warp, I'm not the smartest guy in the world but it makes sense to me. Certain items like picture tubes were heated at far lower temperatures for extended periods to relieve stress in the glass from the processing. I'm sure they did this process because they had some tubes crack either in the factory, during shipping or even worse happen after the set was sold and in a customer's home.

Thanks

Thank you

I haven't seen any issues with color vs black vinyl. I think you will be okay.

@@BriansVinylRecords Thank you, Brian!

As long as you monitor the temp, you are good. They use different heating elements in the groovy pouch and some get hot at low, some don't unless it's high. I have to set mine to medium and haven't ruined a record yet!

I'm not sure what video you watched, but I don't see any cart movement in the video. No groove damage here.

The pouch is not required. If you don’t have it you can use your oven. I didn’t want to do that, so I bought the pouch instead.

The pouch is not the problem. The problem is probably the heat source. I'm surprised they didn't just send you a new heating pad to try first. Sucks you weren't able to get it working right.

Yes, I believe they changed the heat source on them. I don’t recall, but so far so good for me.

I don't have as many warped records as I did, but when I have had to use the vinyl flat it works perfectly.

Unfortunately no. I have not found a flattening system that can fix that kind of warp. I have a couple records like that I would love to find a way to fix, but no luck.

Yes you can. I have done as long as 4 hours, but never tried more. I have found that most warps are solved with one 2:45 session. If you did 6 hours I would recommend the lower heat setting.

@@BriansVinylRecords Thank you Brian!

Is it more of a crease than a warp? If there is any sort of creasing it is very hard to get those out. Lips warps as well are near impossible to get out. But anything where the warp is smooth the vinyl flat fixes very nicely.

@@BriansVinylRecords no it’s not a crease, but the warp is 1/2 inch in amplitude over very localized area. finally gave up.

You may have a different heating pad in yours than I do. Mine has a low, med and high option. They might have changed that between when I got mine and you got yours.

@@BriansVinylRecords thanks for your reply! That makes sense, I thought my pouch was missing something.

I didn't bother with the oven. I prefer not to use that method as I have a gas oven and it can't keep the temperature low enough to safely use the vinyl flat

Ahoy Chris! An oven might be to hot. I would try an electric blanket.

@@BriansVinylRecords I agree and think it is safer to use the groovy pouch over the oven method which is easy to overshoot the required temp.. ps I wonder if there are other editions of vinyl flat?? my says to start with an hour then 1 hour 15 minutes. my controller is just on and off and came with no thermometer???

The one I have must have fixed all those issues. Works great for me!

@@BriansVinylRecords I complained to them and they never answered. Not even sure the two plates were actually flat. It just was wasted money.

Well thankfully I don’t have RCA telling how to store my records because storing them flat is a terrible idea. The weight of the records on top would damage the ones on the bottom over time. Glad my generation finally figured that out. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Rock on!

@@BriansVinylRecords Please explain what kind of damage. I've done this my entire life. No damage at all. But, I know not to stack them 8 foot high as well. On the other hand, I've seen friends records end up bent like a Pringle potato chip when side standing them. I'm just curious 🤔. Thanks 😊

@@GeemailMailboxx if ur generation did it so well then how come so many of my 60s-70s records look so jacked up? Stacking them on their side is silly. You can't easily grab a record on the bottom of the stack, the weight leads to warp, and it's a great way leave ring wear on all ur records.

@@__Diavolo__ I guess it really didn't matter back then because they were a dime a dozen at that time. Think about it, I would run the hell out of Chevy Chavelle back then, today, I wouldn't think of doing that. Records are a gimmick now for the new kids. They are plentiful and overpriced. Look at the rooms full of Records you youtubers have, thousands of them. Hardly a rare commodity, just an overpriced hobby now. 😏

@@GeemailMailboxx not for me man. I keep good care of my records because they are important to me. I don't buy overpriced modern garbage, 99% of mine are old pressings which in many cases aren't dime a dozen. I'm also not a KZfaqr, not rich, and don't have thousands. I don't get being so crochety over people enjoying the same media format u used to.

No, I have not had any issues with audio quality when using the vinyl flat.

It really depends on your heating element. I used a thermometer to see what the temp got to for the one I have and so I do 2.5 hours on high because mine doesn't get as hot as others do. Takes some practice to get the right settings, but once you do you are good. Start on medium for 2 hours. Then see how it did. Follow the directions. Add another 15-30 minutes if it isn't completely gone and run a second cycle for 2 hours 15 minutes. Good luck!

They sell a pouch with a heating element. It's an add on and totally worth it.

www.vinylflat.com/product-page/the-groovy-pouch

@@BriansVinylRecords Ah okay, thanks!

Just remember, black vinyl is color vinyl as well. You shouldn't see much difference :)

Hello! Yes, I have flattened quite a few since this video. The only failures I have had pertain to albums where they have a ribbon like effect. Several lip warps one after another. It doesn't seem to be able to fix that issue. Otherwise, I have been very successful in flattening out my albums that come warped.

@@BriansVinylRecords have you had any attempts that ended up with the "orange Peel" effect some people have talked about when you overdo it?

Thanks for the offer RJ, but I am not a big Jazz fan. I'd rather they go to someone that would appreciate them.

I typically will let the pouch warm up for about ten minutes then put in the vinyl flat and start the timer.

@@BriansVinylRecords do you have any experience doing 45s? If so give me some tips

@@djranman I've never tried a 45. I believe it comes with felt rings for them though.

The same amount as a heating pad because that’s what it is.

vinylflat.com

So far so good. The felt liner helps with that. Just have to make sure not to overheat. That is when it damages grooves.

I would think it would be the same as normal. Just use different padding.

It depends on what you consider dished. If you mean bowed from the center, yes that works great. If you mean ribboned like the bowl people make out of old records (just not that extreme) this method does not work.

@@BriansVinylRecords thanks

I don't know. I have never tried that method. I believe it is an option though. I think there are guidelines for that in the instructions.

I was wondering if that was an option! Should think it would have some degree of success and without setting my nerves on edge using heat to melt and destroy the vinyl!

You need the vinyl flat for sure. The groovy pouch is just a heated pouch to heat up the vinyl flat. Instead of using an oven, you can buy and use the groovy pouch. I chose that method and am very glad.

​@@BriansVinylRecords Thanks Brian! :)

You are obviously not from Minnesota

Only on their website as far as I know

They no longer offered on Amazon, Amazon customers are crazy they have the most liberal return policies.. I bought two boxes of a dead Jazz musicians releases.. sealed might be warped... I'm planning on buying one along with the groovy blanket... it's a business write-off... they appear to have their own website... there are some really expensive overseas models available on eBay for several thousand dollars , I think they shipped from Japan.. at least the sealed ones are clean... many of the records I have from Acquisitions are not clean... some of them are so obscure they don't even appear on discogs...

Actually $5.00. I had two copies when I got a second one free. Worked out well and now two DLR fans are happy. Obviously you weren’t the buyer since you appear to have disdain for him, but to each their own.

Me too!

I’ve had no issues with standard weight albums. Most of the albums I’ve flattened are standard weight.

I have a couple of those horror stories my collection. LOL

That’s why you use it to test.

Sure did and it was worth every penny

Thanks for watching. I love CDs. I have over 1100 of them. I love vinyl too. Sorry you feel the need to be a jerk. Have a great day.

@@BriansVinylRecords I have vinyl as well but pisses me off how these new releases have crap quality. Parlaphone maiden albums. 3 out of 4 dish warped wtf?

@@BriansVinylRecords how much was the toaster btw?

@@tiborosz1825 Oh I agree. Quality control has been a big issue. Thankfully it appears to be getting better as I haven't had a warped new vinyl in a while. I bought this for used ones. You can get used records for cheap if there are fixable warps in them.

@@tiborosz1825 I bought it with the groovy pouch and it was about $120 in total if I remember correctly.

Hey man, thanks for watching. I enjoy CDs too… hell Cassettes even. Rock on!

LOL - a "Luddite" is someone who isn't downloading/streaming now. But I'm honestly good with how anyone chooses to collect and listen to music. There are good practical reasons to go with vinyl besides "nostalgia". 1) There are multitudes of vinyl releases and cuts of songs that never made it to CDs or downloads. Of course, if you must have it in a newer format, you can transfer and put the vinyl on the shelf. 2) Per 1, the analog vs. digital "debate" isn't the point when you consider the real debate is mastering here vs. mastering there. Some vinyls have superior mastering and some CDs have shitty mastering. Digital doesn't automagically mean "perfect to everyone's ears". 3) CDs degrade, get scratches, skip, etc. One can take care of vinyl or CDs and maintain a decent collection. Or one can handle either roughly and end up with trash. The only real difference is that it takes real skill to handle/play vinyls well and keep them in great condition. Having a vinyl collection in great condition demonstrates an audiophile with no real comparison. 4) Quite obvious, but LP covers are larger and sometimes considered as art. I know folks who hang them up as such.

@@StefenTowervalid points

Better question is why are you watching vinyl videos if you dislike them so much?

exactly 😁

Vinyls last way longer than CD's and sound open, not digitally compressed.. we were tricked by Martha Quinn of Mtv that CD's were the shit...

You don't get it vinyl is like a religion.. might come in all shapes and flavors....LAXVESPA-LOSANGELES

Yes I have and it works the same. No change.

@@BriansVinylRecords Thank you for answering that question because I was wondering about colored vinyl.

@@BriansVinylRecords found the answer to my question :) Thanks Brian! Can't wait for some more podcasts 😉