Or, make sure engineers are the management. Or get management that are properly trained.

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this is so true in almost anything

He does videos for Hackaday, problem is they are way too short, 10-20 minutes ish, and lack a lot of detail I think (maybe just to make the videos more easily digestible for a larger audience). But even then he apologises for them being "too long". :-( He has a brilliant mind for this kind of stuff, and I could listen to him talk all day.

I could sit and listen Bill for hours.

David T : that’s the burden of living through the revolutions of computing and information. The young people of today will be saying the same thing in just a few years time.

Not _is?_

I had a C128D in 1986. I even sacrificed an Atari ST in favour for the C128. In 1988 I sold the C128. Still today I regret this.

@@HelloKittyFanMan. Duly corrected!

Hehe, thanks... but it didn't take. Did you forget to click "save"?

@@pythagorasaurusrex9853, why did you sell it?

Wow. You "got to" sit through an 80-minute "talk" about ancient computer "technology" in Power-Point form by a first-time Power-Point "user" who thinks his "role" in a failed "tech company" as an "engineer" who really had nothing whatsoever to do with "engineering" anything presented besides his very first Power-Point pretty much pisses and moans about the "failure" of a "loser" company he doomed himself to failure and obscurity choosing OVER "Apple" and "IBM" provided either of them would have hired a "licensed TV repairman" who got "licensed" literally at least 10 years after "TV repair" as an "industry" became "extinct" thanks to solid-state electronics and semi-conductors and "microprocessors" and "electronics" putting "vacuum tubes" and "electro-mechanical" components out to pasture forever? Which is indicative of and consistent with his "historical" decision-making deciding to go to "Commodore" instead of "back to school" when "Apple" and "IBM" were clearly "not hiring" so-called "electrical engineers" with "TV repair" experience. Any "engineer" who thinks "adding" components such as "capacitors" or "resistors" to "PCB" electronics on an "solder-on" basis is anything but a reason to have "security guards" rough him up all the way "off property" so he can go be "happy" and "successful" fixing vacuum-tube TVs and isn't a "danger" to every "computer" he and his "engineering" come in contact with and a "death sentence" to every one his soldering gun touches probably went to "Commodore" when even a "home electronics store" or "Radio Shack" wouldn't hire his dumb ass.

@@deeremeyer1749: Geesh, "dude," what "happened" to "you"? Did you "get" a little "drunk" on "quotation" "marks"? Holy "hell," "what" are "all those" even "supposed" to "mean"?

@@HelloKittyFanMan. He's just being a dick....

@@deeremeyer1749 Syntax error in 1

An excellent grasp of quantum reality...

I still turn my VIC-20 on about every 2-3 years, and it still works. 8) And my Atari 1200XL, and my TI-96A.

Mike Totman Schrodinger's box. . .

Yeah like waiting 30 minute force crappy game to load. We are now in the golden age

@@Tangobaldy yes some games sucked, but some were worth the wait.

​@@Tangobaldy 30 minutes would have been loading from tape. However, back in the days, about everybody was using Turbo Tape (a software fastloader), which cut down loading times to less than 3 minutes; about the speed of loading from disk. Disk loading could also be sped up, using software fast loaders like Hypra Load (I don't count hardware fast loaders, as these require buying stuff). Anyway, the reason why this was the "golden age of computers" (note John said "computers", not "gaming") was that software would just work. Very much like game consoles nowadays. No need to install a larger hard disk/SSD, better graphics card, more RAN, newer CPU to have a satisfactory software use experience". C64 software released in 2019 will still run on an original C64 from 1982 (with very few few exceptions, like the BluREU demo which requires a 16MB RAM Expansion Unit (REU): kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZaEedaqt5q9fGw.html - a 1541 Ultimate II will load the 16MB data file in about 25 seconds). But, just for kicks, I just did a "shootout" between Red Dead Online (on a PC, installed on SSD) and Raid Over Moscow (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_over_Moscow, on the C64, loading from disk, *no* fast loader!). Much to my surprise, the C64 did not win...RD:O and RoM finished within the same second. Okay, with a software fast loader, the C64 would have finished in one third of the time (loading speed increase of Hypra Load is factor 6, but you need additional time to load the fast loader first, so the net outcome would be factor 3). I did not consider boot times (C64: less than 1 second)-

I bought a 64 because the class was some kind of trendy new-wave "Calculus with Computers" hybrid. I never understood just how the calculus was supposed to tie in, but that machine made me its slave!

You have 2 of what that belonged to a C16? Which possessions were you trying to refer to?

A lot of memories

Then why _don't_ you still have it?

The fact that it was just accepted is even more appalling. It says a lot about the company culture. Or management getting raided by the FBI multiple times? The C64 is a great computer, but Commodore was not a great company.

Only wealthy peopled had answering machines until they became affordable in the early 1990s

Maybe so, @@sonicsputnik9874, but that doesn't change what I said just before this.

IBM PC (maybe not so much geared towards home user) and the Apple II 80-Column Text Card and a couple of others are even older. Nice video from 8-bit guy; kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eLCqgqij27Dbiqc.html

Can't understand why Acorn bothered with the US market. So much competition. They should have styed with the European marked and got the Electron sorted out. They did ok with the ARM chip though. Every mobile phone in the world has one.

MONITOR {return} from basic

many folks never even bought the right monitor to use 80 column mode. that's where the 128 was amazing over the 64, light years ahead when it came to text and online use.

@@oldtwinsna8347 My friend actually had the right monitor for it. We did try the 80 column mode and it was pretty nice. CP/M was pretty nice also even though it pretty much only use Z80 processor as I remember it in CP/M mode. We never tried it online (I never went online with my C64 either but we had a modem in school so we tried Teletext, and a couple of BBS's as I remember. At home my first online (BBS) moment was with my Amiga 500.

another great advantage for debugging is that you can just 'hear' the chips working if you hold an am radio next to the board lol. frequencies on modern stuff are a bit too high for that method :P

you can add about 3 meter pci-e extenders and still got the full x16 speed (look up linus tech tips about it) or you can go the other way, and actually simulate a x0.00002 pci-e link through serial (that's how the ps4 was pwnd, @ 33c3)

If you think "joysticks" which are just a collection of "potentiometers" and like all other "electromechanical devices" have moving parts and sliding contacts that are as "vulnerable" to dust, moisture, corrosion as any other "exposed" conductors/contacts in a relatively "airtight" but subject to major temp/humidity changes "device" (think about hot, sweaty hands on a joystick for hours on end and then hours at 70 degrees in a dry, air-conditioned home and if you don't "get" why that is an issue you may as well go back to grade school "earth science" classes and "start over") are remotely more "stable" than modern solid-state electronics like those your dumb ass used to post your "wisdom" on the internet, you're probably dumb enough to start attaching "random wire" to your "pci-e bus" and will no doubt keep playing "electrical engineer" until you do manage to "let the smoke out" of something you had no business playing "engineer" with in the first place. And you'll deserve every dime it costs you. Or your mom or whoever pays for the shit you don't. How stupid do you have to be to believe that a CRT in a "TV" with its own 120V power supply it uses overwhelmingly to "amplify" the very "weak" signal it gets from a "transmitter" sending out "pulses of electricity" at "high-frequency" and "low-voltage" so that signal can be "decoded" and converted into "photons" to "charge" and cause to "sparkle" (what an "engineering term THAT is) particles in that CRT turning ALL of the input power from both its own power supply and that "weak signal" less "accessory" circuits/systems in the "TV" like the "tuner" and "audio receiver/tuner" and "amplifier" and "speaker" into "heat" and "light" and "radiation" sufficient to turn thousands of "bits" of data per second (at least when a TV is receiving a "broadband" and "high-frequency" signal from a "TV station" at up to "megahertz" data rates (UHF broadcast television signals) compared to "64-bit" or "128-bit" signals from a piece of shit "home computer" that can't even be used to program/run a half-assed "Pac-Man" and "Turtles" rip-off "well" can somehow have a freaking JOYSTICK getting MILLIAMPS of electricity at 2-5 volts MAX with that electricity going only through a couple of variable resistors called potentiometers with no "electromagnetic field" POSSIBLE PERIOD much less one "strong enough" to "interfere" with the ELECTROMAGNETIC ENERGY/RADIATION/FIELD OF THE MAGNETRON AND CRT "TV" ITSELF? And just HOW IN THE FUCK would that "joystick" EVER FUCKING "INTERFERE WITH" THE "TV" IN SUCH A WAY TO "REVERSE" THE "SIGNAL FLOW" FROM "CPU" TO "TV" TO "TV" TO "CPU" AND SOMEHOW "FREEZE UP A "PROCESSOR" RUNNING AT WHAT AMOUNTS TO THE "SAME SPEED" (FREQUENCY IS "SPEED") AS THE "CPU" AND "TV" AC POWER SUPPLY ITSELF? 64-BIT PRETTY MUCH EQUALS 60HZ. BUT OF COURSE AC CURRENT IN "MICROPROCESSORS" HAS TO BE RECTIFIED (AN "ELECTRICAL ENGINEER WANNABE" LIKE YOU WOULD SAY "TRANSFORMED" OR "INVERTED" AND BOTH "INCORRECTLY") INTO DC AND THEN FED THROUGH SHITLOADS OF "RESISTORS" TO REDUCE THE CURRENT FLOW BY CONVERTING CURRENT TO HEAT UNTIL THE "VOLTAGE" IS "SINGLE-DIGITS" AND THE CURRENT (AMPERAGE) IS "MILLIAMPS" WHICH IS WHAT IS REQUIRED TO KEEP FROM "MELTING" THE SUPER "THIN" AND "HIGH RESISTANCE" CIRCUIT PATHS AND OTHER CONDUCTORS IN THAT PIECE OF SHIT "PCB" WITH "SOLDER-IN" RESISTORS AND CAPACITORS AND EVEN "ANTIQUE" AUTOMOTIVE BUSS-TYPE GLASS-TUBE FUSES COBBLED ONTO IT LIKE IT WAS "ENGINEERED" BY AN "ELECTRICAL ENGINEER" THAT COULDN'T GET A JOB AT APPLE OR IBM OR ANYWHERE ELSE "ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING" IS A "SCIENCE" AND NOT A "TRIAL AND ERROR" AND "GUESS AND BY-GOD" PROCESS ANY "LICENSED TV REPAIRMAN" CAN DO IF HE'S SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT IF YOU NEED A "LICENSE" TO "REPAIR TVs" THERE'S NO WAY IN HELL A "17-YEAR-OLD" GETS THAT "LICENSE" UNLESS ANYBODY THAT CAN PASS AN OPEN-BOOK TEST AND LIE ABOUT HIS AGE AND NOT GET CAUGHT BECAUSE NOBODY "IN CHARGE" GIVES A FUCK CAN PASS. THE WHOLE PURPOSE BEHIND "SILICON CHIPS" AND "SEMI-CONDUCTORS" AND "PCBs" AND SOLID-STATE ELECTRONICS WAS TO GET AWAY FROM SOLDERING IRONS AND SOLDER-TYPE RESISTORS AND EXPOSED "COMPONENTS" AND EXPOSED CONDUCTORS AS MUCH AS FREAKING POSSIBLE. AND THOSE AUTOMOTIVE FUSES? THOSE WERE "OBSOLETE" IN ABOUT 1973 AS FAR AS "MODERN" MANUFACTURERS/VEHICLES WITH MODERN ELECTRONIC IGNITION SYSTEMS AND OTHER "HIGH-TECH" ELECTRICAL SYSTEM COMPONENTS LIKE ELECTRONIC VOLTAGE REGULATORS GO. BECAUSE THOSE BUSS-TYPE FUSES ARE NIGHTMARES TO GET "CONSISTENT" AND "CORROSION-RESISTANT" CONNECTIONS AND PERFORMANCE FROM AND OBVIOUSLY LEAVE BIG GIANT EXPOSED AREAS OF "HOT" ELECTRICAL CIRCUITRY EXPOSED TO WHATEVER COMES IN CONTACT WITH THEM. WHICH MEANS THEY GET DIRTY AND/OR DAMP AND SUDDENLY THEY'LL "CARRY" MORE AMPERAGE THAN THEY'RE "RATED" FOR AND ARE NO LONGER "PROTECTING" THEIR CIRCUITS PROPERLY. THEY'RE ALSO EXTREMELY HARD TO "IDENTIFY" EVEN WHEN BRAND-NEW AND "IN-HAND" SINCE THEIR "AMPERAGE" IS "ENGRAVED" ON/AROUND ONE "END" SO "LIGHTLY" IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THERE'S STILL "GOOD CONNECTION" WITH EVEN THE ENGRAVING "CONTACTING" THE "HOLDER" THAT I HAVE A HELL OF A TIME READING SOME OF THEM AND I HAVE "EXCELLENT" VISION FOR THAT SORT OF THING. AND WHO IN THE FUCK PUTS AUTOMOTIVE FUSES IN A FUCKING "HOME COMPUTER" WHEN THE "LOWEST" AMPERAGE THOSE FUSES TYPICALLY ARE AVAILABLE IN IS AROUND 3 AMPS? THAT'S 1/4 THE AMPERAGE IT TAKES TO RUN A "SHOP-VAC" FOR FUCK'S SAKE. OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU REDUCE VOLTAGE YOU "INCREASE AMPERAGE" BUT THAT'S WHEN "HIGH RESISTANCE" AND/OR "HIGH LOAD" CAUSE LOTS OF "VOLTAGE DROP" AND "AMPERAGE" INCREASES DUE TO OHM'S LAW IN ORDER TO PERFORM THE "SAME WORK" WITH "LESS VOLTAGE" WHILE MAINTAINING THE SAME "WATTAGE". AND RECTIFYING AC TO DC DROPS THE VOLTAGE BY 1/2 AUTOMATICALLY BUT SINCE 120 VOLTS AT TYPICAL "HOUSEHOLD CIRCUIT" AMPERAGE IS ENOUGH TO POWER ABOUT 3 1-HP ELECTRIC MOTORS ON A 20-AMP BREAKER WITH "ROOM TO SPARE" AND THERE ISN'T A "COMPONENT" USED IN A "HOME COMPUTER" OF THAT ERA AND "POWER" AND "MEMORY" THAT YOU WOULDN'T FIND IN A DIGITAL AM/FM CLOCK RADIO WITH A 9-VOLT BATTERY FOR "MEMORY BACKUP" AND YOU DAMNED SURE DON'T NEED TO SEND MORE "POWER" TO THE "TV" THAN IT WOULD GET IF EQUIPPED WITH FUCKING "RABBIT EARS" AND PICKING UP A BROADCAST TV SIGNAL AT A FEW "WATTS" OF POWER AT THE ABSOLUTE MAX, WHY ANY "ELECTRICAL ENGINEER" EVER NEEDED TWO FUCKING AUTOMOTIVE FUSES IN AN "ELECTRONIC DEVICE" WITH LESS "COMPUTING POWER" THAN A "GAMEBOY" IS ANYBODY'S "GUESS". SO WHAT'S YOUR'S? NEVER MIND. I'LL JUST TELL YOU MY "GUESS". THIS "ELECTRICAL ENGINEER" THAT DOESN'T KNOW HIS ASS FROM A HOLE IN THE GROUND AND IS COUNTING ON "VIEWERS" EVEN MORE CLUELESS THAN HE TO "BUY" HIS BULLSHIT "WAR STORIES" IS "SMART" ALRIGHT. SO "SMART" HE DECIDED TO GET LICENSED TO REPAIR "TUBE-TYPE" TVS THAT HAD BEEN OBSOLETE CLOSE TO 20 YEARS BY THE "MID-80S" MAKING HIM NO DOUBT THE DUMBEST "SMART KID" AROUND IN THE "HOME COMPUTER INDUSTRY" IN THE "MID-80s" WHICH IS WHY HE ENDED UP WORKING FOR THE FIRST BIG "RICHES TO RAGS" FLOP OF A "COMPUTER COMPANY" IN THE "SILICON CHIP ERA" YEARS AFTER EVEN FUCKING "PONG" WAS A "BIG HIT" AND PEOPLE COULDN'T GET ENOUGH "ATARI" AND "TANKS". AND ANY HIGH-SCHOOL DROPOUT WHO BECOMES A "LICENSED TV REPAIRMAN" LONG AFTER THE LAST "VACUUM TUBE" TV SETS WERE BUILT AND LONG AFTER MOST WERE "JUNKED" ONLY BECOMES A "TV REPAIRMAN" WHEN ITS EITHER THAT OR JOIN THE MILITARY OR MAYBE GO TO JAIL OR GO BACK TO LIVING IN MOM'S BASEMENT IN THE MID-80s WHEN THE "ECONOMY WAS BOOMING" BUT "ELECTRONICS" WERE "ASIAN" AND GETTING "ASIANER" AND NO "RED-BLOODED MALE" WANTED TO BE "RADAR" FROM "M.A.S.H." FOR A LIVING WORKING ON "TVS" WHEN A GOOD TECH SCHOOL/MILITARY SERVICE "EDUCATION" OR EVEN "HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA" WITH GOOD GRADES IN GOOD SHOP AND "EARTH SCIENCE" CLASSES WERE MORE THAN ENOUGH TO BECOME AN "APPRENTICE" ELECTRICIAN AND THE "AEROSPACE INDUSTRY" AND "AVIONICS" WERE "HUGE" AND "HOME COMPUTERS" WERE THE FIRST "DOT-COM BUBBLE" AND ONE THAT "BURST" EVEN MORE QUICKLY WITH "TEXAS INSTRUMENTS" AND "COMMODORE" AND "MCINTOSH" AND "APPLE" - ALL OF WHICH TARGETED "PUBLIC SCHOOLS" AND "EDUCATION" FOR THEIR "HOME COMPUTERS" ALL WENT "TITS UP" WHEN "IBM" AND THE "PC" AND A "SIMPLE" THING CALLED A "SERVER" AND "NETWORKS" THAT "PER DESKTOP" WERE A FRACTION OF THE PRICE OF THE "HOME COMPUTERS" THOSE COMPANIES WERE SELLING AS A "UNIT" WITH "KEYBOARD" AND "CPU" AND "DISK DRIVES" ALL "COMBINED" INTO ONE VERY EXPENSIVE AND HEAVY AND "HARD TO MAINTAIN" AND PRONE TO "OVERHEAT" UNIT YOU THEN PILED A "MONITOR" ON TOP OF. AND "FLOPPY DISKS" THAT WERE THE "REAL THING" INSTEAD OF THE "FLOPPY DISKS" IN THE NEAT LITTLE COMPACT 3" SQUARE "HARD CASE" INVENTED A FEW YEARS LATER BY IBM FOR THE PC WERE THE OTHER "NAIL IN THE COFFIN" OF THE "HOME COMPUTER" THAT WAS NEVER A MATCH FOR THE "PERSONAL COMPUTER". THOSE "HOME COMPUTERS" WERE THE "8-TRACK STEREOS" AND "REEL-TO-REEL" AUDIO RECORDERS OF THEIR DAY. "HIGH-TECH" AND "ADVANCED" IN TERMS OF "PRACTICALITY" FOR "ENVIRONMENTS" AND "APPLICATIONS" WHERE "VINYL" JUST WOULDN'T CUT IT AT ANY PRICE. BUT ULTIMATELY HAVING "8 TRACKS" IN A "CASSETTE" THAT WILL "HOLD" AN "LP" BUT WITH THOSE 8 TRACKS DIVIDED INTO "TWO SIDES" OF "4 PROGRAMS" EACH "45 RPM SINGLE" LENGTH PRETTY MUCH DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF HAVING THE "SPACE" FOR AN "LP" SINCE "LP" ALBUMS ALWAYS CONTAIN THE "ALBUM VERSIONS" OF "HIT SINGLES" OR "ALBUM CUTS" TOO LONG FOR "RADIO PLAY" AND THEREFORE "SINGLES" WHICH MEANS THE "GOOD SONGS" END UP "SPLIT UP" INTO TWO "PROGRAMS" THEY'RE NOT LONG ENOUGH TO FILL "COMPLETELY" WHICH MEANS MOST OR EVERY SONG ENDS UP "CHOPPED UP" WITH A FUCKING "PROGRAM CHANGE". ESPECIALLY IN CAR-AUDIO 8-TRACK PLAYERS THAT WERE BIG, HEAVY AND "HOT" AND TYPICALLY WERE "SINGLE-SIDE" PLAYERS IN ORDER TO BE "COMPACT" AND "LIGHTWEIGHT" AND "LOW" ENOUGH IN "CURRENT DRAW" TO BE ADDED TO "ACCESSORY" CIRCUITS. THEY RUN "FAST" AT "HIGH VOLTAGE" TO RUN AS "COOL" AS POSSIBLE AND "RUINED" THE 8-TRACK FORMAT. AND REEL-TO-REEL? IDIOTIC.

@@deeremeyer1749 Meth - not even once.

@@deeremeyer1749 All CAPITALS. Mr angry

I had an Amiga 1200 I used in the mid 90's in addition to my 128D. I got rid of both. Very sad. I had two mint 1581 drives and original boxes for all! ARGH!

Suck it down?

You sound butthurt 😂

No worse than Wozniak.

@@oldtwinsna8347 hehehe