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Bill gates is a wanker just look at him really and he claims to be expert on health thay sould band him on talking about any thing

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He looks great too! Note my sarcasm.

This particular Study says Whole Food Plant Based diet is best against all-cause mortality. Its basically a caution against processed food. It also has a chart showing non-processed meat being a little bit worse than Ultra-processed plant-based. And non-processed plant based being the best (Fig 2 of the study) But why doesn't Mike talk about that? maybe you should ask yourself.

@@terryjackson9395 You just read a comment from a real life testimonial and yet you still think plant food is good. Can’t argue with a moron.

Welcome back

@@terryjackson9395 I can only speak to how my dietary change has affected me personally, but for myself Im much healthier both mentally and physically now that I eat an omnivorous diet. I mean no disrespect, just want to clarify my position and I wish you well.

@@terryjackson9395 Because the study doesn't include people who are meat based, only omnivores. I'm a carnivore and the conclusion that whole food plant based is better than omnivore is probably correct due to the healthy user bias. Until there is an animal based versus plant based study, it is impossible to say plant based is better.

It's incredibly processed

@@laveraparato258 Its processed to the point where nothing like it exists in our diets, to my knowledge.

The fake heme was approved on a small study where the best you can saw is the rats did not die. But compared to the control group almost 30 questionable differences during bloodwork and at autopsy. Add in several seed oils.

"The main issue here is nobody is asking why these plant based processed foods cause heart disease problems." Because plants generally do cause heart disease. Especially sugar, carbohydrates in general and plant-toxins. So basically every single plant-based "food". Eat meat and you will get zero heart disease!

Rapeseed oil is not a upf.

@Ntropic Keep consuming industrial lubricants

@@SafeEffective-ls2pl things can have more than one use, the use as a lubricant is based on vicosity and friction not on anything that would be correlated with health. all oils can be used as lubricants and both seed oils and other oils have been used in industry, but are no longer used, because they can get rancid. this is fallacious reasoning.

Yeah but those vegan doctors will also tell you almond and oat milk is healthy… go watch how they make it and you’d be safer eating dirt with your coffee and cereal

@@sammieg8641i make my own nut milks (cashew, macadamia nut) and it contains water, nuts and a bit of salt. The real problem is people who dont want to make their own meals from scratch.

​@@Mister_Listener Making it ourselves is definitely healthier, but half of the 2 hours maximum of free time afterwork isnt affordable for our sanity and chores commitments. I only cook in emergencies and for the arts-&-crafts feel, and it's much easier to control food intake when it's proportioned and Im not eating 1/3 of it while cooking 😅

@@Firesgone haha. Listen, when i roast vegetables, i overeat because they are so tasty!! I do feel lucky that i have the time to cook all my meals, but i do intermittent fasting too, so it is just one meal, lol.

@@sandral5086 lots of seed oils to promote inflammatory disease.

But...but...but Bill Gates said this was good for your health, along with another booster shot.

The Study says Whole Food Plant Based diet is best against all-cause mortality

Couldn't agree more! Whole food plant based for 15 years (maybe once a month I'll eat one of these vegan burgers or a vegan pizza. And very occasional glass of wine) Never felt better.

@terryjackson9395 I eat mostly steaks, ribs, and chicken. Never felt better

Yeah, if they REALLY want to eat plant protein in lieu of meat, might as well just cook the plants themselves, or make their own meat subs at home, like seitan (which is just gluten after the starch is washed off bread dough).

Yes. And give you fake health and a fake immune system.

Plant "food" is fake food...

Who knew?😭😭🤣😭

No, it’s plant proteins. No more fake of a food than bread from the bread isle

Yes, good one.

Any plant-based "food' is junk...

Facts

both are shit foods

Hope he does not die as a result of his contract.

He went from eating hotdogs to sucking on them.

Why would they need to ban a vegan from a hot dog eating contest? 🤔

To be fair, all hot dogs aren't healthy.

I was watching some podcast about 6 months ago where the "scientist" said that vegan meat eaters avoided heart issues that regular meat eaters were getting. I thought "bull crap!".

Not _exactly._ I feel like your comparison is half-true though still makes a good point. It’s different since fake meat (meat analogues) have legitimate nutritional value in the sense they are not close to being empty calories like Doritos and Oreos. Which one part of the reason Ultra processed junk foods have even worse impact on the body than other ultraprocessed foods. However, it’s true they are similar the those junk foods in the sense they are not a whole food _(ex: like steak, fresh fish, lentils, beans)_ nor a minimally processed food _(ex: low fat yogurt, rolled oats, canned veg, canned/pouched fish, bean patty made of pressed beans/veg, tempeh, sauerkraut)_ - which experts agree are health-promoting. They don’t even qualify as a regular “processed food” _(okay if not a staple of your diet)_ they fall into the UPF/ultraprocessed food category - which is “ true half” part of the comparison to Doritos. Which makes them more similar to either UPFs with nutritional value _(ex: lunch meat, sausages, most frozen dinners whether vegetarian/vegan or containing meat/animal sourced foods)_ and/or some fast food entrees _(ex: from McD, BK, Popeyes)_ rather than junk food snack that’s equally as processed but has no notable nutritional value. I don’t eat fast food ever but I will occasionally eat meat analogues especially if I get invited to a BBQ. They can satisfy a rare craving but it’s strange that’s it’s not obvious that they’re meant to be eaten in moderation _(ie; buying a package from the store every couple/few months ideally; there’s not many foods in isolation that can negatively impact a somewhat fit/healthy person if they’re only eating 5-to-26 portions a year)_ If you wouldn’t eat a whopper every week you shouldn’t eat the impossible whopper every week either. This food is supposed to be usually avoided because it’s a treat/indulgence

Hey, don't pick on Doritos. I love em. Can't stop eating them which is why I don't eat them. That crap is addictive. Also, common sense isn't common,,, anymore.

The study didn't even look at plant meats, the headlines and this video are bs. They looked at plant based upfs, mostly pasta, cakes and breads. Meat replacements were only 0.2%. this doesn't say anything about them

@Ntropic You keep consuming things made in labs.

The study actually shows Non-processed meat to be a little worse than Ultra-processed plant-based foods for heart disease. With non-processed plant-based foods being much better than both (Fig. 2 of the study) Here's the study" "Implications of food ultra-processing on cardiovascular risk considering plant origin foods: an analysis of the UK Biobank cohort"

" Eating ANYTHING processed, plant based or otherwise, is not good!" Eating anything plant-based, processed or not is BAD...

Warewolf? More like Gambit from the X-Men.

@@btudrus the jury is still out.

@@ch1cksng3r "the jury is still out" There is no jury, LOL. There is just a tons of vegan/religious propaganda which has in the past 150 years completely trashed the scientific literature with this "plant-based" bullshit...

Yeeup. Eugenics Burgers.

How do you avoid starchy carbs on a wholefood vegan diet without being severly protein deficient? All of the natural plant foods that are considered high in protein have relatively more starch than protein in them by at least 3 to 1, not to mention that protein is poorer quality and less bioavailable than that from animal sources. Without consuming some sort of highly processed protein isolate it is impossible to get sufficient protein and not consume massive amounts of carbs on a vegan diet.

In the short term. Fasting is also helpful, but intermittently not permanently!

@@peterv1436 Well I'm no vegan but I think their reasoning is that if you are eating slow glycemic uptake, slow release sources the high starch to protein ratio is acceptable. I certainly know a couple of vegans who have been quite healthy for decades even if I wouldn't want to try it myself.

They avoided starchy carbs? How are starchy carbs bad for you exactly?

@@cloudoftime Most grains, almost all grain-based flour, as well as other fast uptake carbs induce postprandial glucose spikes, or rapid increases in blood sugar after eating, increasing ROS production, which interferes with blood vessel control and increases inflammation. Over the past couple of decades, a lot of research has been connecting this process to more and more of the health challenges of modern humanity.

i tend to agree!

Perfectly said. Natural selection. Us non-processed food consumers will survive. 👏🇦🇺

Amen!

@user-qq5du7iv4t Is Darwin your God ?!

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I mean yeah, processed foods usually are bad for your health regardless of being vegan or not.

It should be because he’s wrong and the “study” is garbage. Educated yourself instead of listen to some random KZfaqr lol am I surprised y’all do this… nope.

Preaching is the correct word. Neither you nor he even read the study. Huge error bars. 0.2% vegan fake meats. Unprocessed meat about as bad as vegan UPF (think donuts, potato chips and other truly awful junk); but again, huge error bars.

That's how you make it.. flour/tofu, oil, other stuff.

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The Govt still wants you to eat breakfast cereals, which we know is ALL SUGAR. SO BAD for you.

I would argue that it is clearly pointed out that any diet based on whole foods is superior to a diet based on ultra processed. I would also urge anybody to base their diet on what works for them.

Vegetable based diets have a higher rate of diabetes and insulin resistance. Shrug. Meat only cures that. Bloodwork doesn’t lie. For me at least.

​@noellesnow186 there's good cereal is pure cane sugar ill eat that just in the morning

Interesting how you just ignore "UPF" maybe you should listen or read the paper. *Paper* : *HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW* "plant-sourced NON-UPF consumption was associated with a 7% lower risk of CVD" etc... "Conversely, plant-sourced UPF consumption was associated with a 5% increased risk"

Yes. Absolutely awful take. Key takeaways from this study is: error bars too big to really say much of anything but the weak indications it offers is that donuts (vegan UPF) is worse for you than brown rice (vegan unprocessed food) and unprocessed meat is about as bad as vegan junk food.

@user-vo9wd6tx6c the quote is from the study... He didn't read that part in his video.

Gates Fnd, WHO & WEF big into pushing the no meat messages… Climate lies, culling healthy animals. It’s more like Impossible to Remain Alive Foods

That's exactly 💯% TRUTH and what it's All about! Keeping people ill and MAKING MONEY!

If you actually read the study it says nothing about vegan fake meats (0.2% of foods in study) and it says vegan UPF (donuts, prepackaged bread, vegetable oil based sauces, margerine, pre-packaged sliced bread, ketchup etc) is as bad for you as real unprocessed meat. And all the error bars overlap so it doesn't even tell you this with any meaningful level of certainty.

Bugs deep-fried in seed oils ! 🐜🐜🐜

Cricket burgers? Beyond Bugs? 🤮🤮🤮

If you have the space, hula hooping has been great for me (got when I had funny hours & couldn't go for my regular walks). They seem on par with walking, and you can watch TV! Also got because it was the quietest for living upstairs 👍 Just adding an option 🤗

Meanwhile meat eaters live vastly longer than vegans and have the best life expectancy. no sane person cares about this fake meat or an unhealthy vegan diet.

You are doing a good job of spreading the lies that were paid for by the big food and pharma corporations. I'm all for getting up my cholesterol and my bp is a lot less than it was eating the sad.

Of course, Darwin said that in the first 4 minutes. I can’t speak for everyone else here but I have no problem with eating fruit and vegetables. What I do have a problem with is junk-products pretending to be healthy by advertising themselves as vegan. No-one should be eating that crap

Booze is a 4 times larger component of vegan UPF than vegan fake meats and all the error bars overlap between the categories, meaning it has no resolving power to say anything with a reasonable level of confidence. Worthless study.

Also plant based meats only made up 0.2% of the UPFs so you can't form any conclusions on that. It's mostly cookies, cakes, pastries, alcohol, and soft drinks. It's the most duh study ever but bad faith actors like this are totally misrepresenting the data and banking on the general public not having scientific literacy to actually go read the study and find out how bad these youtubers and the media are.

This is called confirmation bias. If you read the study, 0.2% of foods were vegan fake meats. Vegan UPF is potato chips, donuts, peanut M&Ms, pastries, soft drinks, booze (!), sugar frosted flakes, margarine, pre-sliced bread and similar junk. Real, unprocessed meat did about as poorly as vegan UPF (think donuts and M&Ms and such garbage) and *all* the error bars overlapped so there's no statistical resolving power there anyone.

I make my own chicken nuggets.

Well, to be honest, the study actually shows Non-processed meat to be a little worse than Ultra-processed plant-based foods! (at least for heart disease). With non-processed plant-based foods being much better than both (Fig. 2 of the study). But Mike didn't mention that. Guess he just forgot.

​@@terryjackson9395Non processed meat such as steak you mean? Yes steak is high in protein and other nutrients, and good for the health 🥩😋

Did any of you actually read the study? Plant-based meats are essentially not part of the study (0.2% of total). It is comparing things like donuts and sliced bread (vegan UPF) to things like brown rice and cabbage (vegan non-UPF) to things like steak (non-vegan non-UPF) to things like salami and canned spray cheese (non-vegan UPF). What it finds is that non-vegan UPF is as bad as vegan UPF and the error bars all overlap so the significance is extremely low.

They'll correct their mistake soon by producing a plethora of articles about how bad meat is.

Reported on the Lancet, not the American Medical Conglomerate 😃😃👍

@@nokieng6502 New York Post, Daily Mail and other lamestream media as well.

What's not surprising is that they lied about what the study actually said. The study says nothing about vegan fake meats (0.2% of total foods), the bulk part of the vegan UPF category was chips, cookies, margarine, candy, breakfast cereals, soft drinks, pre-sliced bread, pretzels, "industrial pizza" etc. What it also says is that non-vegan UPF (steak, eggs etc) did as poorly as vegan UPF. But all the error bars overlap anyway so it doesn't even tell you that. They made up a lie and ran with it, now you took up the lie and kept spreading it.

Chocolate is very high in oxalates which slowly poison your body...

The old kinds weren't so bad, I remember making black beans burgers. They were completely different from Beyond meat, the old vegan burgers used real legumes and vegetables. They were high carb though

If you ate say a veggie dog versus a meat hot dog you’re still better off. These foods are about context. If they are replacing processed meats it’s better overall.

@@someguy4967that depends on what’s in each of them

This is called confirmation bias. If you read the study, 0.2% of the foods were vegan fake meats. Vegan UPF is potato chips, donuts, vegetable oil based sauces, ketchup and other such junk.All the error bars overlapped and real (tm) unprocessed meat did as poorly as vegan junk food.

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Terrible study. Vegan fake meats were 0.2% of the total food consumed. Vegan UPF is things like donuts and pre-packaged bread. Even booze was 0.8% of vegan UPF and 4 times bigger than the vegan fake meats category. The vegan UPF (again, think donuts not beyond burger) was as bad as non-UPF non-vegan food (think steak, chicken and eggs). All the error bars overlap so it cannot even say anything confidently.

Yes, because PBWF diets *_reliably create more ex-vegans_* than any other.

This particular study actually shows that ultra-processed plant-based diet being a little better than NON-processed meat (for CVD deaths). And that's a diet of mostly fries, pastries, soda, chips etc (Only 1/5 of 1 percent was actually meat alternatives). But who on here actually reads studies LOL.

Just because something is derived from plants, it is unhealthy!

You say that like fruitarians are cracking open apple seeds and eating them like that lol. If you ate a seed whole as dense as an apple seed you’d just pass it as nature intended

The dosage makes the poison.

@@scotlynhatt "The dosage makes the poison." Even a small dosis does harm you...

@@btudrus what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

He wouldn't do that because then it would show how he and many of the media misrepresented the data. Fake meats only made up 0.2% of the ultra processed category. It was mostly cakes, pastries, cookies, alcohol, soft drinks. You can't form conclusions based on 0.2% inclusion. The study also showed non processed plant foods to be better than non processed animal foods so he wouldn't want people to learn the truth there.

Something to check out. Thanks!

@@kayekaye251 they also added alcohol as a plant based upf. the problem here is, that nobody expects this to be what is meant by plant based upf, and so one has to wonder, why would you design a study in such a way. we already know that alcohol and cakes are bad for you, what do you learn about the other food categroeis by bunching them together?

Both, but the vegan upfs included mostly cakes, pastries, cookies, soft drinks, and alcohol. The fake meats only made up 0.2% of the category so you can't form any conclusions from that. Basically it told us what we already know. Oreos are vegan, and they aren't healthy...